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Battle of Britain GB 2008 - 21 June to 31 Oct 08

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Posted by razordws on Monday, July 7, 2008 10:15 AM
Mike, which unit emblem?  I don't have a lot in my stash but you never know.

Dave

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Posted by luftwaffle on Monday, July 7, 2008 11:21 AM

Dave, it's for 8./KG 77.  It's a decorative white shield, I've never seen it before (next to the upper "G's").

Techmod just released a new sheet for the Do 17 though, it's got a nice bird from KG 76 on it, just placed my order with GM so hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week.

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by soulcrusher on Monday, July 7, 2008 11:43 AM

Sorry to here about the mower meeting its demise there Aaron. To bad you are so far away i just got a new John Deere and the old one is just sitting on the side of the shed. i'm sure we could havesd worked out a swap. a mower for some plastic!

Frank I new you would appreciate the little poke therePirate [oX)]!

Mike don't worry finish up the garage. Well still be here waiting for you when you are ready!

                                                                           Soulcrusher

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by razordws on Monday, July 7, 2008 1:30 PM

Mike, that is an unusaul emblem that I have not seen before either.  I doubt I have it in my stash but I'll take a look tonight when I get home from work. 

Aaron, I used to supervise a landscaping crew for a property management company.  Can't tell you how many mowers the crew went through in similar incidents.

Mike (Ruddratt), renovations and re-decorating are the norm around my house.  I try not to let it interfere with my hobby but it does. Sad [:(]  On the positive side though I finally progressed to the point where my son's bedroom is out of the den and I've been able to set up my display case and model bench in there! Propeller [8-]Big Smile [:D]

Dave

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, July 7, 2008 2:23 PM

Wow guys, there has been some serious quality being shown from you lot

Stan, that is just gorgeous fella. Such a sweet paintjob. Send it to FSM. If they dont publish it they are just wrong.

Aaron Frank Mike, theres some awesome work going on with you lot.

Im in the build full time now ish. My plan was to do my old revel He111 but on getting it out of the box, i changed my mind. Im sure theres modellers out there who would have had a crack at it. Not me. Raised panel lines, Flash city and Clear plastic as thick as concrete. The funny thing is ive started on the resin cockpit for it. It was for a hasa He111 and i was going to convert it to fit. So now, tommorow anyway, i can get a Hasa 111 from my LHS. Also im after a different 109. The one i have is a bulgarian 'E' from Hasa, so ill get a Tamiya BoB one at the same time. Heres the resin stuff sprayed RLM02.

 

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by mark983 on Monday, July 7, 2008 2:28 PM

OK guys, this is where I need your help...I've been all over google researching what Stuka units participated in BOB, but I can't figure out or find pictures of specific markings from those groups.  And there aren't any real (as far as I can find) Stuka aces that participated in the BOB...Squadron.com sells Stuka decals for the JU 87B but I'm unsure if they belong to those participating units!!  If I can get  definite markings for a Stuka, I could always use dry transfers to make it accurate.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Mark

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 7, 2008 3:05 PM

Mark,

I have a few Stuka reference books at home, and I'll check them tonight when I get home from work. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, July 7, 2008 3:14 PM

 Hmmm this is as close as I think you can get. Both the sets are in stock here and cost $8 a set. I included the units I know of that were in BOB. I believe you could get a good set of accurate BOB markings from these sets. Hope it helps. Here is the store and reviews.

 

http://www.greatmodels.com/

 

 http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/decals/super/ss48832.htm

http://www.modelingmadness.com/scotts/decals/super/ss48833.htm

 

Angers.

  • Stab StG 1 - Ju 87B
  • I./StG 1 - Ju 87R
  • III./StG 1 - Ju 87B

Caen.

  • Stab StG 77 - Ju 87B
  • I./StG 77 - Ju 87B
  • II./StG 77 - Ju 87B
  • III./StG 77 - Ju 87B
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Posted by mark983 on Monday, July 7, 2008 3:26 PM

Thanks for the help guys...I really want to get this bad boy going!!

 

Mark

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Posted by soulcrusher on Monday, July 7, 2008 4:40 PM

The whole BoB really started out with the Stuka's attacking the channel shipping. I know from experience it is hard to find alot of refernce photos for the Ju 87's If you could find out what units were stationed on the French coast in the summer of 1940 that might help you decide. I had a real tough time trying to find detail interior shots when I build my 1/24 Airfix Ju 87. It seems like everyone only wants to make markings for Rudel's planes and not much else.

                                                                              Soulcrusher

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 7, 2008 7:19 PM

Mark,

I found this over at Wings Palette:

3./StG 2

The caption states that this aircraft was shot down on August 10th over Sussex in the BoB. 

I took a photo of my reference (the Censored [censored] scanner didn't want to co-operate!) book, here are the pages with BoB aircraft:

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, July 7, 2008 7:52 PM
For those who do not have DVD Smile [:)] this Week on TCM - "Battle of Britain " wide screen and no commercials.

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, July 7, 2008 9:16 PM

here it is

 

 

Cockpit has some parts from Eduard set, however the IP I decided to make based on Tamiya original part, since it is nicely done in 3D and Eduard would make all 2D flat. I did not like this effect.

I checked fitting for a wing and fuselage - no problem here. I plan to glue cockpit to one side only. This way I will not generate any stress on the fuselage and hopefully prevent any missfit on W-F area. 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, July 7, 2008 9:28 PM

 gzt wrote:
For those who do not have DVD Smile [:)] this Week on TCM - "Battle of Britain " wide screen and no commercials.

Great  Stuff! I can finally see if there is a diff quote at the end other than what I posted! Watched the dern movie so much I made my wife cut her hairshrt and go blonde just so I could yell, OK Agreed! Taboo subject tonight! and she can make promises she won't keep....... better watch my victory rolls though.Whistling [:-^]

Thanks to all about the condolences for my departed mower....Boohoo [BH] Got replaced by a Toro. Wasn't a big thing really just a case of sticker shock. Honda mowers were going for over 6 or 7 hundren. Geeze, better mow the grass while I build models at that cost.

Frank love the stuka pics... Where have you been all my life?Kisses [:X] I think I have that series on the 109 e-f and another F-k if anyone needs some BOB Me-109 profiles. ( I know we don't have many 109 fans here....right?Shock [:O]

Like the resin pieces Luftowallywaffler. ( spelling error)Luftwoller 
Are those 1/72? Anyone doing the 1/48 Monogram kit?

razordws ?

There is grass that far north? I thought you just used bagged mowers to pick up all the Maple leaves? Wouldn'y mind that as it is kinda hot here.

 Ruddratt, I let my wife do the remodeling. Of course I have a pink and purple bathroom now. Looks like the Joker took a dump in there.Yuck [yuck]

gzt!!!!! Looking sharp! WOW I may have to use your pit as a model for that pegasus kit!

Hope I hit everyone. Your work is just steller if I missed ya!Thumbs Up [tup]

My progress? Shy [8)] Well er... ya see there was this short haired blonde distracting me but I did get my bench a bit cleaner, compressor together and things are looking a little blue.

Wow time to go to work.... again Sigh [sigh] Awesome modelers doing some awesome work guys!

Love to sticj

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Posted by phoenix7187 on Monday, July 7, 2008 11:01 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

that series on the 109 e-f and another F-k if anyone needs some BOB Me-109 profiles. ( I know we don't have many 109 fans here....right?Shock [:O]

 Ruddratt, I let my wife do the remodeling. Of course I have a pink and purple bathroom now. Looks like the Joker took a dump in there.Yuck [yuck]

No help on the decals or the stuka info. I know what units served but not the units marking.

Nice work on the siptfire Gzt, the cockpit looks great.

I have those books as well. There good for getting ideas and odd camo schemes. I built a K-4 from those books for no other reason other then I liked the look.

I'm glad I'm not the only one, My fox hole is paintred disney eeyore colors (purple and blue). Yah that's right she 33 years old and I'm 35 with no kids and I have an eeyore colored bathroom. Now I have to put new tile down, can't wait to see what she picks out. I let it slide becasue she spends more time in there then I do.   I should paint it RLM 65Evil [}:)]

Stan
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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 7, 2008 11:26 PM

Beautiful work Greg!  Looks like you're making great progress on your Spitfire. Thumbs Up [tup]

Aaron- LOL, great books, aren't they?  I have both the '109s, the 190, and the Stuka in the series.  Cool books, great for inspiration like Stan stated.

 phoenix7187 wrote:

...my fox hole is paintred disney eeyore colors (purple and blue). Yah that's right she 33 years old and I'm 35 with no kids and I have an eeyore colored bathroom. Now I have to put new tile down, can't wait to see what she picks out. I let it slide becasue she spends more time in there then I do.   I should paint it RLM 65Evil [}:)]

Disapprove [V] I say nothing...

LOL, the RLM 65 is a good idea, but I think a 74/75/76 would set it off nicely. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 2:03 AM

Mike, took a look for the white shield emblem with no luck.  Looks like your order from GM is your best bet.

Mark, I took an picture of a table in one of my references with the Stuka units involved and their codes.  Hope this will help.

Based on this the middle option on Superscale's sheet 48-833 as pointed out by Aaron and available at Great Models is your best bet.  There is another company called flightdecs at

http://flightdecs.ca/INDEX.HTM

that has a couple of other sheets in stock.  One is another Superscale sheet 48-895 and the other is an Eagle Strike sheet 48-082.  Flight decs is a Canadian company and you have to contact them by email, fax, or phone to order.  Happy hunting. 

Greg, that pit is looking good.  Keep the pics coming.

Aaron, looking good also.  Keep plugging away.  Oh, and yes we have grass up here, and the temperature hit 38.6 degrees celcius (101 fahrenheit) last weekend.  No relief from the hot temps here bud. Wink [;)]

Dave

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:00 AM

Greg, thats a great looking Pit. Is it all being built OOB?

Aaron, sorry if you thought i was Waffling, ill keep it shorter in future. As for the plane, shes looking sweet and going to be ready in no time.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 3:05 AM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Greg, thats a great looking Pit. Is it all being built OOB?

Aaron, sorry if you thought i was Waffling, ill keep it shorter in future. As for the plane, shes looking sweet and going to be ready in no time.

...Guy

Oh no don't read it like that. I am just so rattlebrained that the multiple Luft names get me mixed up. Nothing personal Luftwoller, Luftwafle, or anyone else. Isn't there a Lufty as well? Blindfold [X-)] Waffling? is that an English expression? Sounds like how I describe politions. I have a sort of British question about the movie. In the scene where the couple finally get a moment together and they argue about her transfer. He calls her a name? Went clear over my head anyone recall that?

 A 101 degrees in Canada? The poor polar bears and eskimo's must be opening lemonade stands. Whew it get that hot here routinely but it seems higher temps up north just feel hotter to me.

 Eeyore colors? Probably doesn't matter anyways. May as well be rain cloud blue. Oh bother, maybe something useful like a target on the comode?Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by luftwaffle on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 8:27 AM

Mike, took a look for the white shield emblem with no luck.  Looks like your order from GM is your best bet.

Dave, thanks for looking, the KG 76 bird will probably end up being a little more interesting anyway.

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."   -Winston Churchill

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 10:49 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]  I only had some 1/48 stuff and have not seen that shield before either, Mikester. See I knew there was a waffle involved somewhere! I mean I apologize for the mix up in names. Y'all need to learn to speak Texas I reckon. Are ya kin folk relation? It also is confusing that you are both from foreign countrys that charge too much for petrol. I think I had better stick with Mike and Guy... Plus with te great looking bombers you are making I could call ya the Lufty twins exceptional!  Ouch Black Eye [B)]
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Posted by mark983 on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 1:32 PM

Thanks to all who helped with my Stuka markings issue...Now that I have a direction I'm excited to get it going.  It's going to be one beautiful bird!!!  Yall rock!!!

Mark

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 1:58 PM

 Mark it is looking pretty sharp already can't wait to see how it turns out!Thumbs Up [tup]

As for me ..... well you know......

Been so busy with the wife and work. I enlisted a little help with a green expert! Strong with the force he is......Alien [alien]

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 4:30 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Greg, thats a great looking Pit. Is it all being built OOB?

...Guy

 

I used Eduard set for:

throtle, flap, trim controls and minor pieces for the door, lock amd armor plate.

IP is tamiya with white background and black cover scratched to get highlights.

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 4:40 PM

No Sweat Aaron, i get yer gist. As for my builds, there is a small problem. I have no He 111. I have the resin bitz for said plane but no plane. Even the 111 i did have was a H-6 which isnt allowed. So if anyone has a spare H2-H3 etc PM me LOL.

The 109 E is coming along sweetly. For all ive read on the net, i sat watching the sprues for the best part of an hour. And NO!!!! THE KIT DOESNT BUILD ITSELF! GRRRR. I had to do it. Joking aside, my intention for this kit is to build Adolf Gallands plane and build it OOB. Ive added the odd spare PE bit here and there in the pit and if i need anything else ill scratch it. Heres some pics of what ive done so far.

The instruments were done with spare decals as the ones supplied in the kit looked awfull. Far too much white.

As i never seem to work too instructions, the next logical progression was to do the propellor amd then the chrome on the undercarriage legs. Obvious. Right?

Alclad supplied the steel colour on these wonderously detailed prop hubs.

Next i checked the wing to fuzz gap. It was good but not that good so i needed to spread the fuzz slightly. If you need a spreader, what better than a Tamiya spreader LOL.

pretty sweet gap, or lack of it.

More soon.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 5:08 PM

Hey guy she's looking good so far. Adolf Galland flew several different planes during the BoB. Which markings are you doing. The reason for asking is I just finished a Tamiya E-3 done in Adolf markings just as this group build idea came up. Bad timing on my part but I was just wondering the markings you planned to use.

                                                                          Soulcrusher

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 5:42 PM
 Wow that is fantastic work there Guy... , That looks like a pro built after market pit fer sure. I am amazed at the level of detail you  have made with the kit parts. Right up there with Greg's Spit. Makes me pretty humble and want to get practicing so I can aspire to that level of skill.  Wonder where he kept his cigar lighter? and how that was rigged up?
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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:26 PM

Nice progress there Aaron!  I better keep cracking on the 109 lest you finish first and get shot down 'cuz I wasn't there to back ya. Dead [xx(] LOL...

 Luftwoller wrote:

The 109 E is coming along sweetly. For all ive read on the net, i sat watching the sprues for the best part of an hour. And NO!!!! THE KIT DOESNT BUILD ITSELF! GRRRR. I had to do it.

Hmmm... you must have gotten the cheaper version.  Better luck on the next one! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Seriously, well done on the office!  Adolf himself would be quite proud (and, a little annoyed that his cigar lighter hasn't been installed yet!) to see it.

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:38 PM

That is some great info Dave, thanks for sharing it! Thumbs Up [tup]

I tried painting my spinner again last night, and mucked it up again.  Forst time, I KNEW that the paint was too thin but I went with it anyway.  A fair amount of it creeped under the tape so I stripped and started over.  Last night, it was better but still needs to be redone.  So, tonight I will strip it again and hope the third time is a charm.

So far, the score is:

Spinner=2

Frank=0

Banged Head [banghead]

Frank 

 

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Posted by darson on Tuesday, July 8, 2008 7:57 PM

Guys I'm afraid we've had a bit of a medical crisis at my place with my wife being admitted to hospital a couple of days ago.

All being well I'll get back online by the end of the weekend.

Cheers

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