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Battle of Britain GB 2008 - 21 June to 31 Oct 08

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, August 9, 2008 7:50 AM

Hey all, I recieved a fab book today on the He-111.

 From the outset to the final version with loads of great pics. Talking of which heres one for anyone thinking that they may have weathered thier 111 too much LOL.

BTW, thats zaust smoke, and not invasion stripes Whistling [:-^]

...Guy

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:59 PM
Confused [%-)]
 Daywalker wrote:

 sfcmac wrote:
 Ok I have only 7 even with my new E-3. Boohoo [BH]

Looks like someone has some catching up to do! Whistling [:-^]

Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

You know whats bad? is I just got a big box delivered today. No 109's can ya believe it? 3 tanks, The new   Trumpeter SdKfz 7 the Tamiya Blitz and a Hellcat and Gladiator. I am so ashamed I got no 109's today. The E-3 arrived A few days ago with the Goose. Black Eye [B)]

 Listening to the amounts of 109's here though is incredible! Did the Luftwaffe have that many? Thought Mess only made like 33,000 of them.

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:46 PM
Gee I wonder if my stash will ever get that big. I don't think its a good Idea. Wink [;)]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:39 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
 Ok I have only 7 even with my new E-3. Boohoo [BH]

Looks like someone has some catching up to do! Whistling [:-^]

Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:37 PM
 Ok I have only 7 even with my new E-3. Boohoo [BH]
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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:36 PM

Hi all,

Mike -- thanks for the link, the ICM Do 215 looks pretty good. I'll be in that! And I'll line up the Finnish markings for the 17 Z-2 too. She's an interesting type and not too prolonged a build.

Hmmm, as for how many 109s in my stash... I count only 12, off hand. Boohoo [BH] And about the same in FW 190s. That doesn't count yet, does it?

I've started assembly with the horizontal tail, adding the undersides to it, the good news is the Matchbox plastic reacts very well with Testor liquid cement. I'm scribing a second nacelle half, and will assemble that next. There's also nothing to stop me getting the wing together.

Cheers,

TB379/Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:29 PM

 raptordriver wrote:
16! Wow thats almost my whole stash!

LOL, I'm afraid to count mine... Blindfold [X-)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:25 PM
16! Wow thats almost my whole stash!

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:23 PM

Andrew- Shock [:O] No '109s?

I just counted mine, I finished one yesterday so that brings me down to 16.  Guess I had better get another! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:16 PM
 Daywalker wrote:
 soulcrusher wrote:
                                                                                                                                       

Frank I knew you would'nt let me down! Are you gonna take a dive if my Hurricane comes up agianst you or will you shoot yourself down with your own Spitfire?

Knowing me, I'll prolly crash into meself and take both of me (?) out! Propeller [8-]

Sounds to me like your '109 stash is quite well stocked!  Certainly well enough to be considered a '109 phile.

Hmmm... Anyone else wanna share how many '109s they have?  I'm gonna go up and count mine right now! Big Smile [:D]

I guess I 'll share, I have none! I just built up my last one.Big Smile [:D]

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by raptordriver on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:13 PM
Hey SoulCrusher nice Hurricane.

Andrew

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:07 PM
 soulcrusher wrote:
                                                                                                                                       

Frank I knew you would'nt let me down! Are you gonna take a dive if my Hurricane comes up agianst you or will you shoot yourself down with your own Spitfire?

Knowing me, I'll prolly crash into meself and take both of me (?) out! Propeller [8-]

Sounds to me like your '109 stash is quite well stocked!  Certainly well enough to be considered a '109 phile.

Hmmm... Anyone else wanna share how many '109s they have?  I'm gonna go up and count mine right now! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Friday, August 8, 2008 7:45 PM

To many 109's? Well I have to confess I have but one 1/48 scale 109 in my display case some how? I do have two 1/72 scale birds in there though. A E-7 jabo and an          F-2 in desert paint. Although i do have 13 unbuild kits of 109's of all kids in my stash including three Classic Airframes A models[I felt the need to build all the different versions of the kit!] and a 1/24 Aifix E model with one 1/32 Promodeller F. Is that enough to be in the 109 nut club?                                                                                                                                             

Frank I knew you would'nt let me down! Are you gonna take a dive if my Hurricane comes up agianst you or will you shoot yourself down with your own Spitfire?

                                                                                     SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 8, 2008 2:50 PM
 KJ200 wrote:

Guy, you can never have too many 109s, or my personal preference 190s.

BTW has anyone else used Tamiya Extra Thin Cement? I picked up some last week, this stuff is really good.

Karl 

109's...190's, i got 100's myself. Im number dislexic, they all look the same as me Big Smile [:D]

as for Tamiya extra thin. Its all i use nowadays. Absolutely brilliant stuff. No more filler in seams for me. Better than ambriod proweld, and thats a tenax copy, IMHO.

...Guy

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, August 8, 2008 12:15 PM

Frank, that is a truly stunning build!Bow [bow]

Your finish is amazing, it looks absolutely spot on.

I always use a couple of paint pots, one under each wing tip for taking pics of the underside.

Aaron, I was going to go with Tuck's machine, but having had another look at the Aeromaster sheet, think I'll go with E.J.Gracie's machine instead, again no roundels on the lower surfaces.

Guy, you can never have too many 109s, or my personal preference 190s.

Not a lot of progress on the Hurricane, but the stabs are on, and I should have the pit painted by tomorrow.

BTW has anyone else used Tamiya Extra Thin Cement? I picked up some last week, this stuff is really good.

Karl 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Friday, August 8, 2008 12:05 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:
 Daywalker wrote:

Many thanks fellas!  I am quite proud of it, and now the Bf-109 officially is the most-built-kit in my display case (for now).

It will always be the most modelled plane in my cabinet. I look at them and think...I have a Desert 'E' a late war 'G' a BoB 'E'...and then you start thinking...ooh I havent got a desert 'F' in those colours etc etc... I could quite easily build 109's for the rest of my modelling life LOL. Sad i know..

p.s My 410 is coming along swimmingly, but keep that under your hat.

...Guy

Considering the rate I build at and since I've got over 100 109's in the stash I could probably do 109's exclusively too, but man does not live by Messerschmitt alone...

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 8, 2008 11:21 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

Many thanks fellas!  I am quite proud of it, and now the Bf-109 officially is the most-built-kit in my display case (for now).

It will always be the most modelled plane in my cabinet. I look at them and think...I have a Desert 'E' a late war 'G' a BoB 'E'...and then you start thinking...ooh I havent got a desert 'F' in those colours etc etc... I could quite easily build 109's for the rest of my modelling life LOL. Sad i know..

p.s My 410 is coming along swimmingly, but keep that under your hat.

...Guy

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Posted by luftwaffle on Friday, August 8, 2008 11:14 AM
 Thunderbolt379 wrote:

Hi Mike,

Gotcha! No wonder the instructions reminded me of Superscale's layout... Big Smile [:D]

I find myself interested in putting together some more Do 17s in a variety of schemes -- the Finnish markings are colourful. So here's an interesting point -- is there a thoroughly modern kit of this subject or are we working mainly with old faithfuls, Airfix, Monogram, Matchbox? I can't bring any others to mind at this time, I might have to do put the whole question to the knowledgible folks at Google!

Mike

Mike,

ICM has released a new mold 1/72 Do 215 wth a Do 17Z-2 promised in the future.  It looks like a nice kit, the interior is beautiful, but I understand the 215 has some fit issues.  Should be a quantum leap over the old Frog and Monogram kits though.  I've got the Finnish markings all set for when they release it.

Here's a review of the kit:

http://www.hyperscale.com/2007/reviews/kits/icm72301reviewpw_1.htm

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Posted by sidure on Friday, August 8, 2008 10:35 AM

Greetings from the Nats guys. I love all the great work you guys are doing and I cant wait to get back to the bench. Going home tomorrow. I am having a great time here and spending way too much money. Loads of kits,decals and aftermarket stuff. Even got some BOB stuff, the Tamiya 109e. Going to do the contest hall today and I will take a lot of pics for insperation. Keep up the good work and will be looking forward to the progress.

Steve

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 8, 2008 6:26 AM

Many thanks fellas!  I am quite proud of it, and now the Bf-109 officially is the most-built-kit in my display case (for now).

SC- Sorry mate!  No worries, I still got your back! Big Smile [:D]

Guy- Thank you!  Just trying to follow the lead set by you and Stan. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, August 8, 2008 3:10 AM

Hi Lufty -- glad you like the scribing! One line left to go on the starboard wing underside as I type this. Then the port fuselage half and all the nacelle bits. It's a skill that comes up on you unawares, I rally hated scribing until this project, really, but this one's rolling along. It makes me want to dig out a classic 1:72 Hasa F-4EJ I started reworking and see how far I can bring it along.

For the Dornier, I think I'll stretch the rules a touch and bring up the lustre of the paint with some clear gloss additive to better take both the decals and a panel wash. This should be an interesting beast when she's finished!

Cheers,

TB379/Mike

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 8, 2008 2:58 AM

Frank, that is gorgeous. Seriously gorgeous mate. I love it, and, in the immortal words of Manstein, want to marry it. I too built schroeders 109 and agree about the Tamiya 109's. Excellent.

 Youve done yourself proud big boy and set the bar even higher still for us mortals.

...Guy

P.s TB that is some quality scribing there. Are you sure you havent just poached that pic from a 'How to' publication LOL Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, August 8, 2008 1:21 AM

Hi guys,

Just to officially prove I am working on something for this GB, here's a shot of me scribing the Flying Pencil's wing:

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I'm getting there, a bit at a time. It makes me actually consider rescibing the Monogram B-58, just a few lines at a time, but eventually the whole beast would have been changed over. That's a project for the future.

Still watching my mailbox for that Emil to arrive. The package also has a rare floatplane for the seaplanes GB, which I hope I might have time to consider in the next six months...

Cheers,

TB379/Mike

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Posted by soulcrusher on Thursday, August 7, 2008 11:14 PM

Guy nice job on the award! Its always is nice to be rewarded for a nice build. Frank she looks awesome! Whats with this turncoat stuff. Just when you think you know who's on your side! I am on a complete hold due to lack of parts. No Airfix kit to build and still no decals for the CA kit! So I have started my Fw 190 D for that group build. Doing the Tamiya D-9. So far she has been a breeze!

                                                                               Soulcrusher

 

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, August 7, 2008 9:05 PM

Very nice Emil Frank.  Well done Thumbs Up [tup].

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, August 7, 2008 7:58 PM

Hi Mike,

Gotcha! No wonder the instructions reminded me of Superscale's layout... Big Smile [:D]

I find myself interested in putting together some more Do 17s in a variety of schemes -- the Finnish markings are colourful. So here's an interesting point -- is there a thoroughly modern kit of this subject or are we working mainly with old faithfuls, Airfix, Monogram, Matchbox? I can't bring any others to mind at this time, I might have to do put the whole question to the knowledgible folks at Google!

Mike

http://worldinminiature.blogspot.com/

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Posted by luftwaffle on Thursday, August 7, 2008 7:48 PM
 Thunderbolt379 wrote:

Luftwaffle -- Techmod? I'm impressed! The style of the instructions made me think Superscale. I must source a few of their sheets, they're very good! So, a countershade job on the panel interiors, then shadow the lines themselves. Okay! I wish I could trust my AB to do that but at the moment I don't! I might try preshading, though...

Mike,

I think we have some miscommunication here.  I used Techmod decals on my Do 17, this was after I screwed up a unit emblem I was going use on the Superscale sheet.  The instructions I emailed you and the decals that are in the mail to you are Superscale.

Here's the Techmod sheet I used:

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, August 7, 2008 7:30 PM

Hi all,

Luftwaffle -- Techmod? I'm impressed! The style of the instructions made me think Superscale. I must source a few of their sheets, they're very good! So, a countershade job on the panel interiors, then shadow the lines themselves. Okay! I wish I could trust my AB to do that but at the moment I don't! I might try preshading, though...

sfcmac -- I can only agree. I'm still waiting for goods from GMW and it must be getting on for two months. They said they were waiting on one item to come into stock to ship together and save postage, but this is getting rediculous. I have a Merkava that's in limbo because the PE sets are suspended waiting on a Corsair cockit that has left the Squadron catalog and may not be actually available at all... I must drop them a line.

Frank -- I'm wowed, man! Stupendous! I can't wait for mine to arrive, the package has gotta be on the doorstep soon! VERY good work, I must archive these shots as reference!

Continuing with the scribing on my Matchbox pencil, I'm nearly there, one wing underside, one fuselage half and all the cowl/nacelle parts left to go. Lines crossing the midline will bde done after assembly. I'll need RLM-02 and RLM-04 for both the Do 17 and the Me 109, so I might as well pick them up in the near future, maybe next week.

Cheers,

TB379/Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, August 7, 2008 7:00 PM
Aaron, Dave, and Mike- Many thanks fellas!  I love that Tamiya kit, almost builds itself. Thumbs Up [tup]  Aaron- You're gonna have a great time when you build yours, as it's a teeny weeny bit easier to build than those blasted FM kits. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Thursday, August 7, 2008 3:34 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 Alrighty then. That is just too open to let go!

 Attention!  We are proud to annouce that Luftwoller, AKA Guy..... has been awarded the most dubious honor of....The Battle Of Britain Group Build Swell Fellow of the Month! and is entitled to all the honors and benefits fortwith.  Join me please in a round of applause for our dignified awardee! Bow [bow]

Laugh [(-D]  Hip, hip, hoorah!

Party [party] Party [party] Party [party]

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