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Battle of Britain GB 2008 - 21 June to 31 Oct 08

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:57 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 Any update on your back woes Bondo?

Ah, you confuse me wit' m'evil twin, the scurvy Rat Nam! Thankin' ye fer the kindesses.

Katherine has both Grandfathers still, one a decorated WW2 pilot and the other a retired aeronautical engineer, so it's in her blood. Plus she just likes to make stuff.

It's a welcome chance to chew that fat while we work, most of the time if spoke to directly I get a more shall we say, attitudinal response.

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Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:06 PM

Guy, that is one great looking Heinkel.

Thanks for the heads up on the antenna mast. 

Is that a small counter weight at the base of the rudder?

You are a serious modeling machine as mine still isn't finished 2 years after I started it!

Having said that, I have made some more progress, so that this ought to be complete by Sunday.

If these guys had been in Bomber Command they would have been on their third tour!

I'm still not happy with the black on the fuselage sides, and I'm not sure AIMS are correct on the way the Balkan Kreuz are depicted, as most photos of machines with the temporary night camo have it applied to the fuselage crosses. 

Karl

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:29 PM

 Karl I knew you would not be far behind!  That is one sweet paint job. I understand if you want to keep it neat cuz the temporary night camo always looks like it was applied in a hurry to me and kinda random for  the early Luftwaffe. It may well have been left alone as you have it for the same reasons the US Bombers went natural metal.  Hard to hide a big formation even at night. Very Spiffy! Can't wait to see it done! May induce a surrender from SC and re write history!

 Bondoman I could have sworn you said something about straining yer back playing baseball with the kids. I must be going nuts. Sign that more sleep is needed as my attention to detail is fading. ACK! Confused [%-)] 

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Posted by mark983 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:59 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 I forgot to ask Guy? How did you get the paint job straight? I see no sign of any trouble? Anyone seen Mark? Just wondering if he survived his B-day last Friday? Just concerned as a Stuka presents a more inviting target than these big bombers.

 

Oh...I'm still here my friend...in fact...my Stuka pilots are in training going over their operational duties as we speak...Looks like metal will be falling from the sky soon...(about to put its primer on tomorrow.)

Mark

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:09 PM

Thx for the kind words lads and lasses

Aaron, i semi sorted the roughness of the paint out with about 30 gallons of Future LOL. Then a flat coat to boot. Voila!

SC, I bet your right about the Yellow noses. But if they all had yellow noses, one wouldnt stick out i spose? I know in Russia, a lot of the big tally killers, used to go up in inconspicuous planes because, they reckoned, any newby pilot would have a go for them just to try to prove themselves. Often to thier demises. Those Russians were brave if nothing else.

...Guy

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:01 PM

Hi Guy and Karl,

Sweet builds, fellers! Very different results, but both suberbly realistic. The cockpit detail in Guy's is stunning, and the panel lines are accented perfectly. Decals look like they went on no bother at all (I'm still reeling a bit after tussling with custum decals off the inkjet for a scratchbuild -- fourteen tries to get four insignia that worked... It's not supposed to be that hard, and kit decals that cooperate will be a welcome change!)

Great work, and I'm really regretting missing that Hasa on eBay!

Cheers,

TB379

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Posted by darson on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:58 PM

TB bummer about missing out on your eBay kit but have you thought of using Hobby Easy?  They are cheap and very reliable, you can find them at http://www.hobbyeasy.com/

Guy your 111 looks just fantastic and all that detail work you put into the cockpit has really paid off, nice one Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Karl the paint job on your Heinkel is really sharp, kits always look better once the decals go on.

Aaron I think one of the main drivers behind US heavies going natural metal was the weight of the paint and its impact on range and bomb load, at least that's what I heard.

Cheers

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:11 PM
 darson wrote:

 

Aaron I think one of the main drivers behind US heavies going natural metal was the weight of the paint and its impact on range and bomb load, at least that's what I heard.

Cheers

 Ha you are close Darren that was part of the justification. But it was the giant vapor trails that gave them away and made camo useless. Of course the Germans flew lower but don't tell Karl........

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:27 PM

Hi Darson,

Thanks for the link, I've bookmarked them. They sure have a big range!

I'm about to stop procrastinating and dismantle my airbrush again...

Cheers,

Tb379

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Posted by darson on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:25 PM
 Thunderbolt379 wrote:

Hi Darson,

Thanks for the link, I've bookmarked them. They sure have a big range!

I'm about to stop procrastinating and dismantle my airbrush again...

Cheers,

Tb379

No problems at all, Daniel who is the guy that runs the place is extremely helpful and they are used very heavily by all the IPMS guys here in Melbourne.

It's pretty good when you consider that you can land a 1/48 Tamiya Spitfire for about $25 that would normally cost you around $40 in the LHS

By the way, do you mind if I ask what your name is?

Cheers

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:36 PM

Hi Darson,

$25 is a good price for a Tami Spit -- I ordered their Bf 109E-3 for $22 from Clarion Militaria in Beijing (they also have enormous savings on Trumpeter, I only ever buy Trumpeter from them.) They have an eBay store, just search on "Clarion Militaria" or "Reichsrommel."

Mike's the name, BTW -- there are a few by that handle hereabouts!

I've got the AB disassembled, looks like half the problem was a bent trigger plunger pivot, the rest is gunk in the trigger/air valve channel...

TB379/Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:01 PM
Guy- Beautiliticulous work there! That is sweet looking bird. Watch your six for inbound Spits! Big Smile [:D]
Karl- Your -111 is coming along beautifully, can't wait to see more pics! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:37 AM

Guy- A most splendiferous achivement in the plastic arts, came out excellent!

Karl- Looking good.  Squadron's "He 111 in Action" has a color profile of your aircraft with the fuselage Balkankreuz partially filled in with black, leaving only the some rough white edges visible.  Don't know how accurate it is but thought I'd throw it out.

 

aka Mike, The Mikester My Website

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:33 AM

Hi all,

My Dornier is underway, I'm continuing with panel scribing, doing the big upper wing half tonight. After checking my reference material I decided Matchbox probably did their research reasonably well and to follow their pattern. My best reference is not the Z version, it's the E, and there are lots of detail differences, so it's safest by far to go with the kit detail. It's also a learning experience for me, as this is my fourth scribing project and I seem to be getting better at it.

There are not that many panel lines, I'm hoping to have this phase done with well in advance of the accessories arriving.

Cheers,

TB379

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Posted by sidure on Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:02 PM

That is a great pair of 111 you guys have going on. Both are comming out great. Hopefully soon I will have the fw-200 to form up with ya on a raid on England. Still working on subassemblies but it will be taking shape very soon.

Steve

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM

Just to keep the balance in place I would like to show you gentlemen, a progress on my Spitfire from 74th RAF Squadron.

I plan to finish it tomorrow, hopefully I will be able to do so. I have been very busy lately and I could not spend any time in my studio Sad [:(]. Hopefully by the end of August I will be able to dedicate more time for modelling Smile [:)]

Here it is : current status on my Spitfire.... ready for some weathering ....

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 1, 2008 12:26 AM

Tongue [:P] Ah GZT! I have been waiting to see that! It is very much worth the wait!  Absolutely a perfect compliment to Franks 1/72 version! The decals and paint job look freak me out good! Love the Polish fin flash. Just like on the movie box!  Repeat please.... Repeat please....... Thumbs Up [tup]

Looking forward to seeing the Condor! Thats a big plane even in 1/72

The next week should be telling. Oh well we almost had Soul Crusher on the ropes!

Maybe we could call Thunderbolt 379," Thunder Mike! " Look forward to your membership in the flying pencil club!

Best part I am offically on vacation!!!!!!!!!!!! I won't miss nuthin!

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Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, August 1, 2008 4:00 AM

Looking so sweet Greg, Thats the stage i love. When the imagination starts to take over. Youll, need a few more spits to keep the bombers at bay LOL.

...Guy

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 1, 2008 7:44 AM
Looking very nice Greg! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, August 1, 2008 9:12 AM

Greg, great job on the Spitfire, it looks like it will be another stunning build for this GB.

Mike, I've not seen the Squadron Signal profile, but always good to know someone else is thinking the same as me!

I've been busy applying the panel wash, and spraying on some Tamiya Smoke to add some texture to the panel edges etc.

Thanks for all the kind comments guys.

Karl

 

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, August 1, 2008 11:23 AM

Thanks Gentlemen !

A quick update, before I will be swamped with work load ....

Now, it is more like a Spitfire flown by Henryk Szczesny with 74th RAF Squadron Smile [:)]

Few more details including antenas, piot tube, mirror and gun smoke Smile [:)] possibly tomorrow

 

I think these Polish fighters can handle German bombers pretty well Smile [:)] .. and Messeschmitts too Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 1, 2008 11:28 AM

OOOOOOOOOOOOO......... AAAHHHHHHHHHHH!.......OOOOOOOOOOOOOO......AAAHHHH!

Cowboy [C):-)] Neato!

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Posted by soulcrusher on Friday, August 1, 2008 11:39 AM

Thats some nice work there Greg! Now Frank will not feel so lonely out there until I finish my Hurricane. Any plans on finishing the Classic Airframes Hurricane? I am going to strip and repaint mine after I finish my Hasegawa MkI. The RAF needs all the help we can get. Way to many bombers! At least the escort is a litle on the light side.

                                                                            Soulcrusher

 

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, August 1, 2008 11:39 AM

Looking sweet!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:11 PM

I've had the afternoon off, so have made a bit more progress on the Heinkel.

Just need to apply a flat coat, this evening.

As you can see my desk gets more messy the closer I get to the end of a build!

And yes that is a coffee filter, I use it for polishing out dust from paintwork.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:20 PM
Greg-
That Spitfire is absolutely gorgeous! What did you use for the wing roundels? They look painted on, are they? Beautiful job my friend. The dropped elevators are a very nice touch, adding a lot of animation to your model. Thanks for the pics, glad the RAF is getting more help! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 1, 2008 1:29 PM
  Oh Karl you subdued the BalkenKreuze thingies! Looks very convincing to me!  Really looking special. I Really like how the panel lines have turned out. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, August 1, 2008 2:23 PM

Aaron, thanks.

Those fuselage balkan kreuz stood out like a sore thumb.

I can't imagine providing RAF nightfighter pilots with great big white cross to aim at was good for the health of the bomber crew!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, August 1, 2008 3:19 PM

Thanks Gentlemen again Smile [:)]

Here are some additional pictures of a finished Spitfire Mk IIa from 74 RAF Squadron, flown by Henryk Szczesny.

 

 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 1, 2008 3:26 PM
Fabulous! Astounding! Concamigoiical even,,,,,,,, Greg that is what gets me going! Plus you deserve an award for being able to spell his name.  Well done! Make a Toast [#toast]
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