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Battle of Britain GB 2008 - 21 June to 31 Oct 08

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Posted by soulcrusher on Friday, August 29, 2008 4:36 PM

Nice gesture there Aaron. It is people like you that make this forum such a great place. Thumbs Up [tup]. This type of generousity makes our hobby much more enjoyable. i myself have been the recipient of this generiousity from John, jeaton1 when i needed a rare set of decals for a 1/48 Lockheed Model 14. I would never have been able to finish it without his help. to everyone here that has helped a fellow modeler out with a spare part or decal.Make a Toast [#toast]!

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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, August 29, 2008 4:42 PM

Steve, I've got a choice of at least 3 or 4 props, all Revell, post a pic and I'll see if any match.

SC, this Airfix kit is a definite pot boiler, I'll just be glad to complete mine, and wlak away from it.

Karl

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 29, 2008 4:50 PM
 Sure thing Steve! I think everybody here offers help if they can! Great bunch of Guys here! Bow [bow]Thumbs Up [tup] Even Soul Crusher is getting it done now that he knows Hydrochloric acid makes for a poor clear coat! Laugh [(-D]  Wow I am going to jump on the band wagon and do that Pegasus Hurricane! I am guessing the Hobby Craft and Monogram kits are the wrong version. Really a great representation of that type!
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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, August 29, 2008 8:35 PM

Well fellows, time to contribute more than my natural charm and good looks.  I Loaded up my collection of reference pics for this GB. I have a collection of 35 photos that are some of the fewer seen. Watching the movie is great but these photo's from both sides really gave me a feel for what was happening August of  68 years ago.

Some are not the best quality but still you can see enough to understand what was being seen. To me they just speak for themselves.

 I'll post more later so as not to bog down the site. One last one for Soul Crusher! This kinda reminded me of your build. (joking)

 To the best of my knowledge these are all from August 1940. I have some good ones of the only cannon armed Hurricane that was there and some of the elusive Stuka's

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Posted by sidure on Friday, August 29, 2008 11:50 PM

Aaron, thats a great set of photos and thanks for posting them. Some really cool looking pics there and quite a few that I have never seen before. I will be sending out the prop on Tue in the mean time I will post a photo of the prop to see if anyone has a match for it before tue.

Thanks again to all for the help, you guys are truly the best and really show what this hobby and this forum is all about.

Cheers  Steve

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Posted by sidure on Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:22 AM

Heres a blurry photo of the prop. It's as close as I could get so I hope you can compare it to your spares.

Thanks guy's for looking

Steve

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:08 AM

Aaron, Steve, SC -- I'd like to add my tip of the hat to acknowledge the terrific folk here, for the very same reason -- Luftwaffle sent me the KG3 squadron codes and badges for my Dornier which is taking shape slowly at this time.

Speaking of which, I have an order in play with LuckyModel for that Promodeller panel wash and some Testor Clear Parts cement, both of which should see plenty of action on the Do 17, the Bf 109, and the Antonov floatplane I just elected to build for the seaplanes GB.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by tweety1 on Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:10 AM

Well it's been well over a year since I logged onto this site, and at least that since I touched a plastic kit (work, kids, RC stuff) but thankfully the BoB GB is still around...minus the 'Usual Suspects'.

Some very nice models going together here, might just get me back into the right frame of mind.

Really miss weathering a 109.

Might have to blow the dust of the ol' IwataWink [;)]

--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by razordws on Saturday, August 30, 2008 11:41 AM

Hey Sean, good to hear from you again.  Yea, some of usual suspects are no longer around but there are still quite a few names you might recognize.  By all means jump in and join us. 

Aaron, some great pictures you have there.  Keep them coming.

Dave

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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:55 PM
 Ok I think one more post will bump to the next page so if anyone has dial-up it doesn't take 2 hours to log in. Please if I jam anyone shoot me a message and I'll fix it! Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:08 PM

Thumbs Up [tup] Here is the next bunch guys!

This next pilot is in the Soul Crusher fan club!

Lastly for now the  cannon armed Hurricane flown by Flight Lt. Dick Smith of No. 151 Squadron in mid- August 1940,

That is the only pic of that bird I can find. Be a cool conversion for one of you talented types!

Hope you enjoy them !

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Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:49 PM

Aaron, great pics.

Sean, some of the 'Usual Suspects' are still around!

Steve, all the props I have, have separate spinners, I'll post some pics tomorrow.

The Hurricane has recieved a coat of Tamiya Sky to the underside, and a coat of Tamiya Dark Earth to the upper surfaces. 

Should get the dark green on tomorrow, after which I'll post some pics.

Karl

 

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Posted by sidure on Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:16 AM

More great photos Aaron, keep em comming very interesting. On that Stuka pic, I dont care what anyone says, hes not pulling out of that dive.

Steve

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Posted by sfcmac on Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:25 AM
 sidure wrote:

More great photos Aaron, keep em comming very interesting. On that Stuka pic, I dont care what anyone says, hes not pulling out of that dive.

Steve

I should have added some info with them but I just kinda like the feel they give you when you look at them. The Stuka Pilot in the Above pics was killed. The Aircraft dived  straight into the ground with the Helpless gunner carried along for the ride. Just like in the movie. Sux to be him.

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Posted by bondoman on Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:55 AM

It does indeed inhale to be the guy facing backward, whomself was the radio/radar op, gunner, crew chief in a two seat, and overall dropkick.

I pause every day to pray, really I do, for those who die in combat. It's often a poopy deal, like the gunner in the Stuka, but its a team bond till death since maybe, when David won.

In the spirit of full disclosure, our Airfix control tower is the 1941 model, so we won't be allowed to be an entry. We will finish tho because it's interesting to us and hopefully to you.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:00 AM

Hi guys,

I just wanted to let you know the Emil is under way! After what seems a long time fiddling with older kits (the Matchbox Dornier, an early Trumpeter for the seaplanes GB, a 1964 Testor/Hawk for an SF scratchbuild, and contemplating an MPM for the Flights of Fantasy GB, not to mention having throughts of finishing an Ertl armor kit, I decided I wanted a model that simply wouldn't fight me... I assembled the wing, the flaps, and did some preliminary painting and liquid masking. I'll spray most of the parts on the sprue, pick up RLM 65 and 71 this week, and the weathering fluid should be here in time for this build.

Cheers,

Mike/TB379

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Posted by sidure on Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:03 AM

Mike, I know how you feel slaving away on an old kit. I love the old Matchbox/Airfix stuff but they do put up a good fight. I have 5 Tamiya Emils in my stash and I have never built a Tamiya kit yet!!!. After all the flash, fit ssues and miss molded parts I think my next kit is going to be a Tamigawa.

He Bondo, keep building the tower. I would like to see it built. I am going to do a diorama with mine some day. Besides, how could you tell when exactly when a building was built. Slap a 1/72 hurricane or spit with it and there ya go.

Kj, cant wait to see how it's looking these days, sounds loke you are making good progress.

On my front we are finally moving along. Both have the undersides painted and yesterday got the yellow down. Bad news was that my RLM04 was dried up and I thinned it and used it. Got the paint down but you got it, it clogged my AB. Spent hours breaking it down and cleaning it over and over but ran out of thinner. Went to the LHS but they are closed and empty, but good news was that they have moved to a bigger new location. It's good to see a hobby shop getting better and hopefully carry more aircraft stuff.

Here is where I am. The 109 is mummified and ready to go to the 02 and 71. The 200 will have some 65 touchups and then also on to the topside.

While we are posting photos, here is a build I did a long time ago that relates to the BOB. This is a Hurricane that was chasing bombers over the Irish sea and ran out of fuel so he crash landed in Ireland. The Hurricane was repared and conficated by the Irish Air Corps and the pilot was repatriated back to England. Thought it was an interesting BOB story.

Thanks for looking.

Steve

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Sunday, August 31, 2008 10:58 AM

Looks like good progress Steve.  That Condor is a real beast.

Regards,  Rick

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:04 AM

No worries Aaron thoses Hurricane's lost were not my boys! The CA fabric wing Hurricane is from the 56th squadron 11 group Rockford, Kent and the Hasegawa Hurricane is from the 229 squadron Northolt.When the Airfix kit is done she will be done in marking from the 306 Polish squadron. So you see no reason to worry! All my boys are accounted for!

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Posted by KJ200 on Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:23 PM

Steve, nice progress on the Kondor.

She is one big bird compared to the Emil!

Here's a pic of the props I have in my spares box, the squares on the cutting matt are at 5mm intervals.

Let me know if any of them look suitable.

Finally looks like the end is in sight on the Hurricane, with the camo on..

The slight speckling on the paintwork, is a light coat of dilute Tamiya Buff, as the contract between the brown and the green was too stark, and this knocks it back a little. The speckling disappears under a coat of Future.

Paints are a combination of Tamiya and Gunze acrylics. I post shaded all the panels with various shades of brown and green.

Karl

 

 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, August 31, 2008 5:12 PM

Looking good there Stan! Isn't that camo a major pain! Are you going to borrow the detail parts from the Hasagawa like we talked about. I finishing up on the CA kit then onto the Airfix kit that is all ready for paint. I am deninetly giong to raid one of my Hasegawa Hurricane's for all of the detail parts. The Airfix details are very heavy and crude.

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:59 PM

Steve -- the 200 is looking impressive!!! I know the pain of supplies running out -- I ran my gas bottle to zero not long ago, the last bar of pressure being -- gulp -- gauge error. I thought I had enough compressed air to slap a quick coat of dark yellow on a Tiger... I did, just not enough to clean the AB afterward. I was using acrylics, so I stood the AB in a glass of water overnight, changed the bottle the next morning and finally cleaned the brush. She's not been quite right since, I've had all sorts of problems, bent trigger assembly, minutely bent needle tip, spattering. I know my AB technician by his first name.

Okay, guys, what's the story on the 109's leading edge slats? My main reference is the Janes/Zokeisha book from 1980, and if I'm reading it right the slats date right back to the 108 sportster. The kit says to match the slats with the flaps for a deployed config, as if they extended together, but the book has a photo of 109Ds on an airfield in summer 39, all with their flaps down yet none with slats open. There's a shot of a taxying G-6, with what seem to be dropped flaps but closed slats. Maybe I'm not reading the pics right, and need more reference materials. Any advice from the 109 experts would be appreciated!

Might pick up the 65 and 71 today, I'm enjoying a kit that actually wants to be built!

Cheers,

Mike

ADDENDUM

Just got back from town, it turns out I already had some 65, and 02 as well but that's a color you can never have too much of. The 71 was out of stock, so there's another place I can try. No wire as fine as .010" for rigging antennas -- will try for piano wire.

I got some Gunze flatcoat, and learned of a rumour that a local hardware store chain may have brought in some Future -- will check it out in the near future (okay, slap me...)

M

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Posted by sidure on Monday, September 1, 2008 1:55 PM

Karl, the hurricane is loking mighty fine my friend. Very nice camo job and it looks smooth. Nice job.

Thanks for the prop photos, the center one looks the closest to the condors. It has a large hub like yours. I will check the mesurements on mine and see how they match up.Thanks a lot.

Steve

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Posted by KJ200 on Monday, September 1, 2008 2:35 PM

SC, I know what you mean about the camo being a pain, don't know how you coped with three of these!

Most of the Hasa parts are already on. The internal radiator detail is from the Hasa kit, not that you can see it, as are the exhausts, which you can see.

Steve, you are more than welcome to have that prop if it suits your needs.

Decals are going on the Hurricane as we speak. 

The stencils are on, and I'll leave these to harden off overnight, before I attempt the roundels and codes.

Decals are from Aeromaster, for a Hurricane from 87 Squadron, flown by Ausie Johnie Cock. He knocked an He111 into the Bristol Channel at night in this machine.

Karl

 

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Posted by luftwaffle on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 9:26 AM
Looks great. Karl.

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 6:06 PM

Steve, I'm lovin that Fw 200.  I got the new one in the stash but now I'm wondering where I'm going to put that beast.  Eeek!

Karl, she's coming along nicely.  On the home strectch.

Dave

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 10:09 PM

Nice work Karl! Just so you don't think I'm getting soft on you fellows I have a polish joke to tell y'all! Shock [:O]

 What do you call a Polish soldier in Iraq?

 You call them SIR!!!!Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 3:29 AM

Hi guys,

Well, I got the airbrush going today, she seems to be working fine now. I did some prepainting on the Emil, including the cockpit. I did the 02 in MM enamel -- those stinky enamels just flow on like velvet, it's a pity they're so toxic. I'm going to experiment with painting outdoors... I'll post a progress pic when I have the cockpit together. I took the opportunity to 02 the Dornier cockpit at the same time.

I notice Tamiya didn't include seat harness, either as molded details or decals -- what's a good set of AMs? Eduard? Yes, I'm actually considering PE...!

I'll try putting the decal over the instruments, I've heard it can come out excellent. If it doesn't, I'll back off and drybrush them.

Cheers,

Mike

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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 8:54 PM

Well the second Hurricane is ready to go into the display case. I tried something different on the finish. I went bck and tried hand brushing on Future agian. This time I finally am happy with the results The Future behaved nicely and layed down nice and smooth. The end result is a overall finish has a very slight sheen instead of dead flat even under a dullcoat of Testors. The vac formed canopy is a major pain! I do'nt know how anybody can work with these flimsy ill fitting things! I do not have the sliding section of the canopy glue down because it does'nt fit over the fuelage. I have'nt decided how I am giong to attach it. I am thinking of a little glue on the inside edges and that taping it down then hoping it stays that way when the glue dries. Now off to start masking and painting the Airfix kit!

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Posted by sidure on Wednesday, September 3, 2008 10:19 PM

SC, very nicely done on the Hurricanes. Great job on the overall builds and the finishes are great. You might have to build a few more to keep up with us Luftwaffe guy's. Congrats on the two great finishes.

Steve

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