Red Storm on the Reich GB - Sept. 8, 2008 - May 9, 2009

Well considering this GB doesn't begin until September.........

I don't know about you all but I have been just way to busy lately. 

anthony2779 wrote:

tigerman wrote:  Glamdring wrote:  dupes wrote: You still have leftovers from the KURSK GB?!? Man, you ARE behind! I still have my Tiger from that GB collecting dust awaiting camo.  I'm scared of it.  LOL. Thank goodness, I was able to finish one of my own GB's on time for a change. My last one ended up in the box and maybe into the landfill. This is why I'm not a fan of GB forum. Little to no activity and the thread disappears. I'm reading my Fall of Berlin, by Antony Beever, that I mentioned earlier in the thread and I can't put it down. It's absolutely addictive reading. So comprehensive and entertaining.    I agree Tigerman,I had read Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad and I loved it,so at your recommendation I ordered his Berlin book from Amazon and it has been just as good.Have you read Crnelius Ryan,s account of the battle ? I thought it to was very good.

No, I am unaware he wrote a book of the account. I finished Berlin, now I'm looking into getting the Stalingrad book.

Bob, good question about the StuG. In the book there was very little armor around Berlin, but there was mention of some assault-guns. It's possible, since this GB encompasses pre-fighting and proximity units as well.

tigerman wrote:

Glamdring wrote:  dupes wrote: You still have leftovers from the KURSK GB?!? Man, you ARE behind! I still have my Tiger from that GB collecting dust awaiting camo.  I'm scared of it.  LOL. Thank goodness, I was able to finish one of my own GB's on time for a change. My last one ended up in the box and maybe into the landfill. This is why I'm not a fan of GB forum. Little to no activity and the thread disappears. I'm reading my Fall of Berlin, by Antony Beever, that I mentioned earlier in the thread and I can't put it down. It's absolutely addictive reading. So comprehensive and entertaining.

I agree Tigerman,I had read Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad and I loved it,so at your recommendation I ordered his Berlin book from Amazon and it has been just as good.Have you read Crnelius Ryan,s account of the battle ? I thought it to was very good.

Well, I busted out the DML JS-2m kit that I had in the stash just to take a look at it and its a really nice kit! I just may build this one instead of shelling out the $$ for the new Tamiya kit.  Of course with 5-6 weeks left I can still change my mind!!

Tigerman-I agree, not much going on here.  However, I would imagine that as the start date gets closer, the posts would increase.  I know that I've been looking thru the stash (and researching) to find a kit that fits the theme and trying to clear up other GB committments that will allow me to start on this one before 2009.

Speaking of research, one of the kits I have is the DML Georg Bose StuG G Early.  Very little available (unless you read German) on Georg Bose.  Best I can determine is that his StuG unit, StuG Brigade 177 was merged into Pz. Jg Abt 69 which then becam 3. Kavallerie-Brigade.  He ended up a POW in an American camp at war's end and then was transferred to Russian hands.  I guess my big question is-would his StuG qualify for this build?  If no one knows, no problem-I have a few other kits on my 'to build list' that fit and I always have the urge to purchase something new....

Thanks

Glamdring wrote:

dupes wrote: You still have leftovers from the KURSK GB?!? Man, you ARE behind! I still have my Tiger from that GB collecting dust awaiting camo.  I'm scared of it.

LOL. Thank goodness, I was able to finish one of my own GB's on time for a change. My last one ended up in the box and maybe into the landfill.

This is why I'm not a fan of GB forum. Little to no activity and the thread disappears.

I'm reading my Fall of Berlin, by Antony Beever, that I mentioned earlier in the thread and I can't put it down. It's absolutely addictive reading. So comprehensive and entertaining. 

dupes wrote:

You still have leftovers from the KURSK GB?!? Man, you ARE behind!

I still have my Tiger from that GB collecting dust awaiting camo.  I'm scared of it. 

dupes wrote:

A DML garage sale? I need more garage sales like yours! Dang.

I wish the guy had more. He had an old Tamiya Lee, an Italeri Pz IV and an Academy Merkava. Boring. He wouldn't budge much on price either.

You still have leftovers from the KURSK GB?!? Man, you ARE behind!

Wait, maybe I shouldn't be laughing...you just signed up for the 251 build. Heheh.

dupes wrote:

Wow, what do you have hanging around that's unfinished? SEVEN?!?

Lets see:

Almost finished (either assembly done or already basecolored):  Italeri M4A1 76mm, Tamiya Pz IV Ausf H (old release), Tamiya M4A3 75mm (unfinished from Liberation of Western Europe GB), Tamiya M3 Stuart, Alan Pz II Ausf. C

Still in assembly:  Dragon King Tiger (for Panzer Aces GB), Italeri Jagdpanther L70 (unfinished from the Hunters GB), Dragon Panther Ausf D (unfinished from the Battle for Kursk GB)

Oops that 8!!  And I'm now working on an ancient Tamiya Pz III for the Vintage Armor GB...so I guess that really makes it 9!?!?!

Hermesminiatures wrote:

Actually I think I have you beat. If I count planes, I've got 11 projects all over 50% done. Someone needs to put together a get-off-your-butt-and-finish-your-current-projects Group Build - either that or put the rest of your stash under lock and key until the current ones are finished

Wow!  You do have me beat Hermes!!  The only problem with locking up the stash is you can always BUY new kits!!

bufflehead wrote:

Whew!  I thought this GB had already started, but I see we've still got a couple of months before it kicks off!  I was about to stress because I haven't even bought the new Tamiya JS-2 yet!  I COULD build the old Dragon kit, but the Tamiya one looks really nice!

Hi Ernest. I built the Dragon JS-2 as my very first Dragon kit and couldn't have happier. I had no problem with the indies, my first experience with them. The only knock is with the upper hull being too close to the return rollers, but I never noticed until somone told me.

The Tamiya kit would no doubt be an improvement, but is it worth the extra cost?

I picked up the Dragon SU-100 at a garage sale for $10, so I might go with that kit if I get ambitious enough. I wish he had more Dragon kits, it was his only one.

RMC_Birdgunner wrote:

I would like to get in on this GB if that is OK? While I don't have any Russian kit yet, I do have the Tamiya Panther Auf. G w/ Steel Wheels in my stash, so I could do that. Cheers, DD

Welcome aboard!  I'll add you to the roster. 

Hermesminiatures wrote:

bufflehead wrote: I need someone to give me a swift kick in the pants!! I volunteer! Actually I think I have you beat. If I count planes, I've got 11 projects all over 50% done. Someone needs to put together a get-off-your-butt-and-finish-your-current-projects Group Build - either that or put the rest of your stash under lock and key until the current ones are finished

I have had the same idea for a groupbuild to help those of us who can't get over that final hump.  I have 6 partially completed build scattered throughout the building table myself.  Three are approaching the 2 year mark!

I would like to get in on this GB if that is OK?

While I don't have any Russian kit yet, I do have the Tamiya Panther Auf. G w/ Steel Wheels in my stash, so I could do that.

Cheers,

DD 

bufflehead wrote:

I need someone to give me a swift kick in the pants!!

I volunteer!

Actually I think I have you beat. If I count planes, I've got 11 projects all over 50% done. Someone needs to put together a get-off-your-butt-and-finish-your-current-projects Group Build - either that or put the rest of your stash under lock and key until the current ones are finished

Glamdring wrote:

It's been my understanding the the one operational Maus was ordered to Berlin but broke down along the way, leading to it being "blowed up" by it's crew.  I think the common consensus is that it never fired a shot in battle. That's why I'm questioning, it was ordered to the battle but broke down enroute.  I have no problem if it would be disallowed, it'll just give me an excuse to go buy another model.

I just bought a book and it has photos of 2 of the proto typs I'll post a pic of the page in a couple of days.

Mobious wrote:

Hello everyone,  I got my copy of "The Fall of Berlin" by Antony Beevor, It should be an excellent book. I didn't realize he is the same author that wrote "Stalingrad", which is one of my favorites. I just wanted to say thanks to espins1 for the recommended reading list.  Best Regards,

You bet.  When I get a chance I have more stuff to add.

I really enjoyed Antony Beevor's books, including the one on the Spanish Civil War, although that was a very different type of book. 

 Hello everyone,

 I got my copy of "The Fall of Berlin" by Antony Beevor, It should be an excellent book. I didn't realize he is the same author that wrote "Stalingrad", which is one of my favorites. I just wanted to say thanks to espins1 for the recommended reading list.

 Best Regards,

bobbaily I am goin to build the '323' - Pz-Abt Kummersdorf / Pz-Div Muncheberg, Berlin May 1945.  It would be something different in my collection.  I'll start out with a tamiya tiger and add a bunch of PE and aftermarket goodies.  Good thing I have time to round up everything. 

Thank you for letting me decide on which one first.

Kim

Moose-you're welcome. 

Thanks but you can have first pick-I probably won't get started until Nov/Dec at the earliest...and I'll change my choice a couple of times after that....

Based on limited research, I can use either an Early, Mid or Late Tiger for this build and I have all three in the stash.  I read in Tigers in Combat I that some Mids from 3./Spz Abt 502 were sent to the Kurland area in the time frame that this build covers. I will probably need to do some more research about specific Mid's if I go that route.

Thanks for the info bobbaily.  I found it by doing the search.  By the way which tiger do you plan on building for this GB?  I don't want to copy yours, being as you pick a tiger I first.

Thanks again for the pics info.

Moose-I querried over in the armor section for info a while back.  Kykeon posed a picture & a link for more photos.  Here's the link to the post in the armor section for a Brandenberg Tiger:

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Hope this helps. 

edit-Moose-I'm using Monzilla and it doesn't seem to like the Cut & Paste function, so I typed in the above link.  You may have to try typing the link in or just open up a search in the forum and try Rebuilt Early Tiger.  Sorry. 

Thanks for the change.  Still looking for more photos.  I found some that Bision Decals have done.  If you or anyone else could point me in the right direction to find more photos would be very helpful.  Any books that would have the photos, I might be able to afford.

Thanks again for the offer of help.  I would like to make my build as accurate as possible.