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Italeri Group Build Sept. 1, 2006-Jan. 15 2007

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:58 PM
 Comet wrote:

Great work there EricThumbs Up [tup]

Less is more when it comes to weathering in my opinion......a pin wash and a little dry brushing and that'll be one sweet looking MarderCool [8D]

I think you should keep this GB going as I feel like building another Italeri kit nowWink [;)]

I think you read my mind on both comments. Wink [;)]

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 Eric 

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Posted by espins1 on Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:09 PM
 tigerman wrote:

Go Scott, go.......go Scott, go..........Get 'er done.

LOL  I have a couple of hours to work on it today.... with a little luck the paint goes on this afternoon!  Headphones [{(-_-)}]

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Posted by espins1 on Monday, January 22, 2007 4:00 PM
Just about done with the barrel clean up, almost all the little bits are attached to the hull.  I really like a picture that Kykeon had posted for me of a Panther Ausf. A with Grossdeutschland and am using it for my primary inspiration.  I'm going to try applying the base coat, then lightening it up a hair and spraying some of the flatter surfaces in the middle, then lightening it up a tad more for the turret top, top of the gun barrel and any other surfaces that would have had a lot of exposure to the searing sun.  Never tried that before, but I think it will get me the look that I want based on that photo.

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, January 22, 2007 6:01 PM
Glyn, whatcha going to build next. I'm going to get that wash going, so I hope to finish this dog up by the end of the week. Hahaha

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:35 AM
Put on my wash and then drybrushed. A word of advice, don't do it in bad lighting. I broke so many pieces off with my death grip or whatever and made a bit of a mess with the glue and scratched up the paint on the barrel. Wasn't what I envisioned. Oh well, coming in on the homestretch.

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 Eric 

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:35 PM
Well, I broke down and ordered some grill screens for the Panther Ausf. A last Friday, they should be here any day now.  Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:02 PM

 espins1 wrote:
Well, I broke down and ordered some grill screens for the Panther Ausf. A last Friday, they should be here any day now.  Whistling [:-^]

Good call, they really make a difference.

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 Eric 

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:09 PM
 tigerman wrote:

 espins1 wrote:
Well, I broke down and ordered some grill screens for the Panther Ausf. A last Friday, they should be here any day now.  Whistling [:-^]

Good call, they really make a difference.

In the mean time, I'm working on the engine and engine bay.  I've been a Tiger nut for a while but the Panther is really starting to grow on me.  Cool [8D]

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:19 PM

I used to be a King Tiger freak, but always liked the Panther. Then after being involved in the Panther build and finishing my G, I realized that it became my new favorite.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:46 PM
Finally got my shield fixed, and should be able to paint it tomorrow.    I plan of then future, paint the road wheels and put on decals, future and wash.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by espins1 on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:49 PM
Do any of you happen to know the interior color of engine compartement on the Panther Ausf. A? Question [?]

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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:58 PM
I would make a wild guess and say red oxide primer.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:34 PM
Hey Scott, I think I remember you saying in another tread that you can spray a coat of future and then paint over it.       Is it working with Tamiya acrylic handbrushed?    It would be a shame to paint a roadwheel rubber rim and having my "steady when not critical" hand messing up my paint job  Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:32 AM

 Gun Tech wrote:
Hey Scott, I think I remember you saying in another tread that you can spray a coat of future and then paint over it.       Is it working with Tamiya acrylic handbrushed?    It would be a shame to paint a roadwheel rubber rim and having my "steady when not critical" hand messing up my paint job  Wink [;)]

I generally use Future as a "protective" coat after I have painted and to make the surface of the model glossy so the decals adhere better.  It also provides for a nice layer between the paint and the oil washes and weathering that are to follow.  I dip my canopies in future, let them cure for a couple days, then mask and airbrush the canopy frames, works great as well.  I know others who use Future as the basecoat before they spray on Alclad II with good results.  

I haven't brush painted over future, but I would imagine that it work work just fine. Smile [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:12 PM

 tigerman wrote:
Glyn, whatcha going to build next.

I'v got a Trumpeter KV-1 on the go atm but have a couple of Italeri  234's lined up........Jean read my mindSmile [:)]

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:23 PM
I got the KV-1 in the stash too, but am trying to get some in-progress kits done first. Looks really nice though.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:24 PM
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!   SoapBox [soapbox] Banged Head [banghead]     Should had painted the engine compartment when I had the two halves unglued!!!!!   Completely slept out of my mind.     Now with a overall German grey subject, you can see a very light grey compartment when you look down the ventilation grills.............   I will try to drop a dark color down there with an eyedropper.....

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:53 PM
Well I got home from school early because of midterm exams and I was going to airbrush the 1/2 track but then it started snowing pretty hard. And I was pretty excited because if it kept up then there wouldnt be school but 3 seconds later it stopped.  And I still couldn't airbrush the 1/2 track. So I'll be airbrushing before next year. (hopefully)

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:45 PM

Just got home from work and my grill screens have arrived!  Smile [:)]

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:57 PM
Do we get a teaser shot of your Panther Scott? Wink [;)]

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 Eric 

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:09 PM

Here are 3 shots of the freshly painted engine.  I think I did a decent job of matching the color, although these photos don't really come close to what it really looks like.  In fact, this is an interesting study in how lighting can greatly impact the way colors appear in photography.  Two of the shots are without the flash, only with a couple of lamps with regular light bulbs which add a lot of yellow to the color, and one with the flash in addition to the lights.  Shock [:O]

I'm going to do a heavy oil wash to grime up the engine and engine compartment and need to paint some of the accessories in there black.

For those of you that aren't aware, the website below is fantastic for matching up colors and finding equivalents in different paint brands.  It also has some great luftwaffe color charts.  Smile [:)]

http://ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_fs.htm

I'm going to attempt to paint the engine compartment after dinner and get the grill screens installed tonight so I'll either have more photos later tonight or tomorrow. 

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, January 26, 2007 9:37 AM

Man, it still kills me that the photo of the engine paint doesn't look anything like what it really looks like....  Sigh [sigh]

I took my barrel last night and decided to dip it in Future as I really want to have a good looking plastic barrel (usually use AM Aluminum) and I must say I'm happy with the results.  Just a light sanding tonight and I can permanently attach it to the turret.  All that's left before I lay down paint is to attach the grill screens.  I was starting to get tired around 10pm last night and didn't want to risk making a mistake with those puppies.  Zzz [zzz]

I also decided not to use the track brackets on the turret as I don't want to cover up the gorgeous turret numbers (223 I believe). 

The end is in sight my friends!  Headphones [{(-_-)}]

Edit: I finally have a color picture of the Panther Ausf. A engine compartment. 

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, January 26, 2007 1:27 PM

Wow Scott, how big is that model you're doing? That is incredible!

 

Is this build being extended? I still have some Italeri kits I can start if it is. I don't want to submit anything new if I won't have any time to finish it before this Build ends....

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, January 26, 2007 3:04 PM
 Duke Maddog wrote:

Wow Scott, how big is that model you're doing? That is incredible!

heh heh That photo is from the restoration photos of the Littlefield Panther.  Big Smile [:D]  It's so tough to find good quality color photos from WWII, especially of German stuff.

I'm not quite sure how to paint the details on the engine, so I'm just going to wing it and make it look...well.. enginey.  Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 26, 2007 6:37 PM
 Duke Maddog wrote:

Wow Scott, how big is that model you're doing? That is incredible!

 

Is this build being extended? I still have some Italeri kits I can start if it is. I don't want to submit anything new if I won't have any time to finish it before this Build ends....

Yeah, go ahead, I'm leaving it open until it dies out.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, January 26, 2007 7:48 PM
 tigerman wrote:
 Duke Maddog wrote:

Wow Scott, how big is that model you're doing? That is incredible!

 

Is this build being extended? I still have some Italeri kits I can start if it is. I don't want to submit anything new if I won't have any time to finish it before this Build ends....

Yeah, go ahead, I'm leaving it open until it dies out.

Great! Smile [:)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, January 26, 2007 7:56 PM

The PE screens are soaking in vinegar, going to rinse them off in a sec.  Quick question, I know a lot of people recommend priming PE parts, is it safe to assume it's necessary with the PE grill screens as well?

And as far as I can tell, dipping the plastic gun barrel in future worked great!  Smile [:)]

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, January 26, 2007 8:03 PM

I never primed mine.    What is it supposed to do when you soak PE in vinegar?

Good to know for the barrel Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by espins1 on Friday, January 26, 2007 8:07 PM
 Gun Tech wrote:

I never primed mine.    What is it supposed to do when you soak PE in vinegar?

Good to know for the barrel Wink [;)]

Just cleaning the oils etc off the PE, similar to using rubbing alcohol.

Ya, I like the future trick with the barrel, just a quick dip, let it drip for a sec, then blow out the muzzle break and voila!  I put it in one of my little clamps that my wife picked up for me that have a magnet on one side and stuck it up in my paint booth to hang overnight.  I'm very please with the results.  Smile [:)]

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 26, 2007 9:59 PM
Yup. I never primed mine either.

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 Eric 

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