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Iraqi T55 wreck nearly complete, lots of new pics

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:10 PM
Some beautiful work there! What are you using to replicate the weld seams and armor texturing? I love watching these less detailed kits get dressed up!

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:15 PM
Nice texturing on the turrets Rob.  The scratched details really add to it too.

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Posted by FastasEF on Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:16 PM

That green putty looks exactly like some stuff I use at work to block out undercuts on teeth, (i'm a dental tech).

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:18 PM

 Thanks guys,I used Mr Surfacer for the texturing. This is my first time using it so we'll see how it looks when the paint goes on. For the welds I used squadron white putty, my miliput dried out so I had to resort to the white putty.

I enjoy building the older kits too, I happened to win these two on ebay, both for $15, not a bad deal I think.

Rob

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, May 3, 2009 2:33 PM
More wrecks from Rob, why am I not surprised? Big Smile [:D] Nice work on the details so far Rob.
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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:57 AM

Thanks Bill

I managed to add a few more details to dress up the turrets a bit more. Their basicaly ready for painting this weekend. Just have to finish off the one turret and that's about it.

I'm looking forward to when I get a Tamiya kit that's more accurate and needs less detailing.

Rob

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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, May 7, 2009 2:00 PM

Hi guys

 

Icouldn't hold back on the painting so I started on one of them, the wrecked T55. 

 

Still needs more work but you get the idea of how it's going to look.

 

Rob

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 3:29 PM
Holly Crap that is just awsome. your gona have to give us a tutorial onhow you did  the  rust  and  the weathering.
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Posted by Bodge on Thursday, May 7, 2009 3:52 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Im enviouse of the pure talent you have.
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Posted by mm23t on Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:25 PM

amazing work on the turrets. Would like to know your technique for the rusted look. I think we are all anxious to see the the final results.Thumbs Up [tup] 

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:32 PM

hey scratchmod, those T55's are stunning.

 

I have a question for you, i am building a recently knocked Brummbar and i was wondering how to achieve a heavily burnt look. BTW, i do not have an airbrush.

thanks

 

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:45 PM
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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, May 7, 2009 8:50 PM

Thank you all for the great feedback it's very motivating.

As far as my technique goes...hmm.. I really don't have a certain technique, and I don't follow the normal painting sequences that is the norm nowadays.  I like to mix things up and change the order of painting depending on how I want a tank to look. I always go thrue the order of how I'm going to paint a model while I'm still building it. I have a mental image of how it will look when done and that's how I paint it.

I have been applying my rust "dry" on the model for a couple of years now..but I switched back to my old way of mixing it with oil washes. Confused..sConfused [%-)] me too. Ok here is an easy way to apply it with oils and pigments to get the look as in the first pics.

1.  Prime the model. I use a dark color like black or a dark brown. Over this I paint a mixture of a couple of srops of black with dark brown. This is the base color for the rust and burnt areas.

 

2.  Decide where you want the burnt/rusted to be, paint the rest of the model in the normal tanks color except for the burnt area.

 

3.  Apply the normal washes and filters to the model including the burnt/rust area.

4.  Now this where the fun starts... while the burnt area is still damp from the wash and or filter give this area another wash with lots of oils. I usea little bit of black and lots of Van *** brown. The trick is to get oils on the paint and discolor it as you would with the dot/spot method. If the model is too wet use a damp cloth to wisk some of the thinner off. When I do this , it looks like I smeared dark mud on the model.

5.  Go drink a beer and have a smoke, 15 minute break to let the oils set in a little and the thinner to start evaporating. A hair dryer speeds thing up too but a cold beer sounds better.

6.   When the burnt/rust area is almost dry, use a large soft brush danpend with thinner to mix upand remove some of the oil paint. You don't want the oil paints on too thick, let this dry a bit ( one more beer ).

7. Using an old paint brush apply the rust pigments to the damp(wet) area mixing and blending it with the oil paint. Try not to apply it too thick, a little bit at a time, wetting the brush a little as you go. What I do is start with dark shades of rust to a lighter rust. The surface of the model should not be wet or dry, kinda in that half dry stage of painting. If you think there's too much rust, no worries, use a wet brush to remove the excess pigments. I always have a damp cloth and Qtips at the ready.

8.  Let it all dry or use a hair dryer on a low setting to speed it up a bit. Here is where you can start to see the results. If it look blotchy, apply more pigments or remove some. If the rusult is good for you then all that's left to do is blacken the burnt area. See step 9.

9.  The blackened burnt areas on wrecks are the burnt paint and soot, for this I use black pastel chalk ground to a fine powder. I have also used charcoal in the past. Use a soft brush to apply the soot to the desired area. An example would be around hatches in turrets and the engine deck hatches and don't forget above road wheels on the fenders ( not on all steel road wheels).

10.  Have another beerMake a Toast [#toast] your done.

 

OK if you made it this far, cool , I didn't bore you too much.I used this method on the T55 turret and it only took less than 1 hour. Practice makes perfect so try it on an old model first.

 

Hope this helps. I'll try to post step by step pics.

 

Rob

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:05 PM

thanks scratchmod, this helps alot and i only have to get one product for this, some more MIG picments!

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:19 PM

Awesome as lways, Rob--you must use as much hairspray in one week as I did back in the 80's lol!

BIG HAIR RULED! ha ha!

Looks tremendous, really! 

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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:29 PM

I'm glad I could be of help to you. You can also apply dry pigments where needed to give it the fresh rust look too.

Here is a pic of a Brummbaer I did about 7 years ago when I first started the wrecks.

Good luck and I hope it works out for you, I look forward to seeing how yours turns out.

 

Rob

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:51 PM
thanks for the how it will come in handy.
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Posted by terry35 on Friday, May 8, 2009 7:26 AM

Rob, as always its a great pleasure to look at your work, you are in posession of a pair of show stoppers there.

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, May 8, 2009 7:30 AM

Such artistry.  Beautiful.

 

 

Edit: I cut and paste that toot in a Word doc for easy retrieval.  Odd how step #5 shows more times in my copy.  Not sure how that happenedWhistling [:-^]

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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, May 8, 2009 7:43 AM

thanks Terry and Marc glad you like it so far. The one turret is finished but I can't seem to be able to take decent pics, the rust color is either too bright or doesn't show.

These pics give you an idea of how it looks with rust applied.

 

Rob

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:09 AM
just curious scratch...if u apply the rust first...how do u apply the paint? your model looks great but i guess what im asking is your paint (which also looks great) has "bits of rust and soot "within" the paint itself...wouldnt an airbrush or whatever u use to apply the paint "cover" those areas?? thanks.
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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:37 AM
Looks amazing... Shock [:O]

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Posted by the doog on Friday, May 8, 2009 9:49 AM
 camo junkie wrote:
just curious scratch...if u apply the rust first...how do u apply the paint? your model looks great but i guess what im asking is your paint (which also looks great) has "bits of rust and soot "within" the paint itself...wouldnt an airbrush or whatever u use to apply the paint "cover" those areas?? thanks.

Rob, I just had a minute to read through your "how to" a little more completely than last night, but I have to ask--are you saying that you haven't used any Salt weathering or Hair Spray on this finish?

That "bits of rust in your paint" thing that camo junkie is talking about looks like the results of the Salt method to me?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:06 AM
 scratchmod wrote:

thanks Terry and Marc glad you like it so far. The one turret is finished but I can't seem to be able to take decent pics, the rust color is either too bright or doesn't show.

These pics give you an idea of how it looks with rust applied.

 

Rob

This is really some impressive work depicting a knocked out tank; really about as good as it gets, IMO...

One thing I would wonder about is the chances of the mantlet dust cover remaining intact...?

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:32 AM
 the doog wrote:
 camo junkie wrote:
just curious scratch...if u apply the rust first...how do u apply the paint? your model looks great but i guess what im asking is your paint (which also looks great) has "bits of rust and soot "within" the paint itself...wouldnt an airbrush or whatever u use to apply the paint "cover" those areas?? thanks.

Rob, I just had a minute to read through your "how to" a little more completely than last night, but I have to ask--are you saying that you haven't used any Salt weathering or Hair Spray on this finish?

That "bits of rust in your paint" thing that camo junkie is talking about looks like the results of the Salt method to me?

yeah what he said! Smile [:)]

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:39 AM
One thing I would wonder about is the chances of the mantlet dust cover remaining intact...?

When I built my own version, I collected a lot of reference that suggested it would not- especially if the tank burned up from the inside; the heat took care of stuff like that. That being said, if it was abandoned and rusted out quickly due to the elements, the cover might be able to hold out a little longer.

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:42 AM
i wish i could find my desert storm pics (since the move i havent been able to find anything...lol). had plenty of iraqi knocked out t-55's i could show you!!
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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, May 8, 2009 10:55 AM

Hi guys

Hmm... I guess I forgot to mention the Hairspray and salt. I did use both on the turret. The basic how-to was for the burnt/ rusted area only. I normally do these areas after the main tank color is on, but reversed the process on this turret to see how it would look.

It worked out ok. The oil paint/pigment forms a barrier similar toapplying a gloss coat. When you slowely remove the paint/HS and salt, the underlying rust/burnt area is revieled. Weathering of the model can then be done in the normal fashion,pin wash etc. the very last thing I do is to apply rust and black pastel powder as a touch. Nothing is sealed on my models so I'm always careful not to touch these areas.

I like to try different ways of achieving a realistic finish and someday I'll get it down.

I have seen pics where the mantlet covers are still in tact, beside I will have the turrets turned so the mantlet is not over the tank itself.

 I hope I cleared things up a bit. I usualy have to try and remember how I painted each model because it's always different.

 

Rob

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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, May 8, 2009 11:38 AM

I manage to dig up a pic of a tank that has some of the cover on the mantlet. This tank is not a total burn out so it would still be on.

I plan on only burning/rusting out the rear section where the tanks were located on the fenders, so not a total wreck. I also wanted to build these models without any AM products.

When I build the Tamiya kit, it will be a WRECK with some interior work as well. These are just practice models to get my feet wet so to speak.

The "how to" was mainly to help Jagd out who has no spray gun, a basic how to. For those of us with spray guns, the salt/HS techniques improves the effects. I have an old KV that fell off the shelf( the wife got too close) and will use that for a quick tutorial.

The oxidation varies greatly, so it depends on the effect your going for when using rust.

 If you still have any questions,fire away.

 

Rob

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, May 8, 2009 12:13 PM

I believe the fire actually speeds up the oxidation process as well.

And not to steal your thread, but for your Tamiya wreck-

here's my T-72 mantlet, no AM, just modeling clay and putty. I’m really looking forward to your next step by step- this T-72’s been sitting on the shelf for a while now (you can just make out the sabot wound on the right side of the frame)

Also DEFINITELY looking forward to your Tamiya T-55 build in the future.

-Chris

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Posted by vector123 on Friday, May 8, 2009 1:02 PM

 smokinguns3 wrote:
Holly Crap that is just awsome. your gona have to give us a tutorial onhow you did  the  rust  and  the weathering.

ya i agree just an awesome job.

always looking for tips and suggestions!
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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, May 8, 2009 2:22 PM

Ok guys you asked for it and here it is. I'm not much of a writer so if I don't explain it quite well, just ask a question. "WARNING" lots of pics here.

1   I started by giving the turret a base coat black/brown mix then added some Tamiya hull red to that mix

2   Next step is to wet the model with thinner, I use Mona Lisa paint thinner for oil paints. Apply oil paints, in this case black, van *** brown and yellow ochre. I applied more than the useual dot method for weathering. With a wet brush mix all the colors into the base color. It looks messy and smeared but that's ok.

 

3.   Apply the rust colored pigments( I normally use real rust powder ) to the still wet surface. If the oils are drying too fast, simply wet it again. You want the pigments on thick, if it's too thick when done just simply use a soft brush and remove the pigments until your happy with the results. Use different shades of rust pigments starting from dark to light. You will notice the pigments start drying the thinner which is what you want.

4   The hair spray..I applied HS straight from the can only to the lower portion of the turret for this how-t. Before the HS dries I sprinkle salt over the HS. The HS helps the salt adhere better and quicker than water. A hair dryer speeds up the drying time.

5   Spray the appropriate tank color over the area you want the chipped paint to be, here only the lower portion of the turret.

6   Here is where my method differs from the normal HS/salt technique...No water to remove the salt/HS. I started by gently removing the salt with a large stiff brush. to remove more of the paint for large chips I switched to a short stiff brush. The pigments and oill paints form a barrier between the HS and base color so the paint comes off easy, revieling the rust area under neath.

7  to finish off the turret and give it dimension, I drybrushed black pastel powder over the lower section and raised surfaces. 

 

And that's about all there is to it. It took me about 1 1/2 hours to do the turret. I hope this "how-to" is more helpful than the last not so clear post from above. Give it a try and let me know how it works out for you.

Feel free to ask questions if you have any. 

 

Rob

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, May 8, 2009 3:41 PM

Shock [:O] Thanks so much for going into that for us- get rust "how to"

I'll have to practice up on my Airbrush skills now...

-Chris

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, May 8, 2009 8:54 PM

Rob.

 http://th50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/rh4545/emoticons/th_hair.gif

Please upgrade to Pro today. Can't see a dang thing. Looks like armorama is eating all the bandwidth!

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Saturday, May 9, 2009 4:33 PM
 disastermaster wrote:

Rob.

 http://th50.photobucket.com/albums/f339/rh4545/emoticons/th_hair.gif

Please upgrade to Pro today. Can't see a dang thing. Looks like armorama is eating all the bandwidth!

http://www.innovationbyinstinct.com/services/hosting/clients/accountyp/status/DisasterMaster/%23t1-4.jpg

 

whats the dealBig Smile [:D] we want pics

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Posted by scratchmod on Saturday, May 9, 2009 8:23 PM

Sorry guys...the pics are there now for the how-to

 

Rob

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:52 AM

I bet there's gonna be a slew of KVII s comin out soon.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:51 AM
Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:46 AM

Rob - A very nice how-to on the rust. OK....how many beers and smokes during that 1 1/2 hours Wink [;)]

You can never have enough hair spray!!

Thanks

Rounds Comptete!!

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:30 AM

I worked on the second turret yesterday at the Nordland AMPS weekly coffee hour, and gave the guys a quick demo using this turret. Some of the chipping was done by the guys to get a feel for the technique. I did some more chipping and started the weathering today.

I used the wife's buisiness camara for these pics and what a difference.

A couple of better pics of the first turret.

That's about it for today, I'll have to start on the hull soon so I can have more fun with the painting.

 Only one beer, enough time to let things dry. In the morning it's coffee and not beer.

 

Rob

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Posted by Bodge on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:48 AM
That for sure is some of the best finnishing ive ever seen , good n you. You must be over the moon with how these are going, i know i would.Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:53 AM

Thanks Bodge.  I'm still working on it so I'm not 100% happy yet. After doing these for over 8 years I'm getting close to what I'm looking for.

 

Rob

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Posted by Bodge on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:55 AM
You have mpressed me and inspired me to have a go, thanks for the tutorial. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:59 AM

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

 

Rob

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:05 PM
Amazing effect.  Gotta try that.

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:51 PM

Gaaaaa....http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/CzyJay/Smileys/bigtongue.gif?t=1241983753

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Posted by terry35 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:13 PM

Hi, Rob that work is comming along with an amazing pace and a true quality of finish, just spectacular.

Terry.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:28 PM

Rob, your work here is impeccable--very convincing, and stunningly artistic.

But what genuinely impresses me more is your willingness to share it with everyone here, and to instruct as to how you achieve such fantastic results--that is truly the mark of a great modeler and a humble man, in my estimation. Many can do--but not all are willing to share and inspire as you have here.

Sincerely, THANK YOU!!!!! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:16 PM

Thank you for those kind words Doog. I had an experiance about ten years ago, where a senior model builder with good painting skills would not even answer my questions as to how he achieved a certain painting effect on his models. This has stuck with me and I don't want to be one of those guys. If I come up with something different as far as techniques go, then I want to share it with others. Maybe some one will improve upon it and I intern will gain from it also.

Sorry if I'm carrying on.

Rob

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:46 PM
Not at all Rob- and Sign - Ditto [#ditto] to doog's sentiments Thumbs Up [tup]Bow [bow]

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Posted by Bushi on Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:59 PM

Rob It looks fantastic and soo real. I can not wait to see the rest. Keep up the excellent work.Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:37 PM

 Hey Rob thanks for the very cool toot, simple and easy to understand.  It's going to be a big help for a future project I have planed.

   I hear ya on the arrogant modeler syndrome. Had it happen to me also.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:02 PM

Rob,

You should steal uh, I mean, borrow, your wife's camera more often! Really like where these are headed and always looking forward to the next round of pics. Thumbs Up [tup]

 panzerguy wrote:
I hear ya on the arrogant modeler syndrome. Had it happen to me also.

I personally have never understood the attitude of some that techniques or knowledge should somehow be 'hoarded' like dragon's gold or something similar. If someone's good and they are afraid of others learning their 'secret' and somehow commonizing their 'special blend' in the process, they have some insecurity issues to deal with on a personal level IMHO. Knowledge that isn't shared is useless...

It's great to see you sharing a tutorial on your methods Rob, your work is definitely an inspiration and no doubt we'll see more "wreckaholics" emerge here as a result! Wink [;)]

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, May 11, 2009 5:54 AM

Rob - I will further what has already been said by a few of my armor friends. Many come in and out of this forum. Few come in and are willing to go as far as you have.

Teaching is the greatest gift anyone can give. Many of the regulars here understand that. He who amasses a great wealth of knowledge and keeps it to himself is a fool. He who passes that knowldge on is a great man.

We all come here at first to learn, then share and teach. As the others have said, thank you.

Don't let the skills "rust up"

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Bodge on Monday, May 11, 2009 11:48 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] To what Karl (Doog) said, we all want to progress and learn new things and i plan to use some of your teq on my current sherman. Thanks again , Andy.
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Posted by scratchmod on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:12 AM

Wow..I never expected to get feedback like this Blush [:I]. The thing I like most of all about this (FSM) site is that you guys don't hold anything back. From positive to negative feedback your still friendly, very helpfull and have a great sense of humor. 

I'm happy Big Smile [:D] to hear you guys are willing to try my tech out. Steve I'm asuming it will be on thse T34's you'll be doing?

Bill I'm especially pleased to see you following my build, thank you. "Wreckaholic", I like that, we'll have toget WA meetings going Smile [:)].

"Hi I'm Rob, and I'm a  wrechaholic" Laugh [(-D]

Guess I'll have to start on those hulls now.

 

Rob

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, May 18, 2009 2:26 PM

Thanks AgentG glad to hear your willing to try it out.

I haven't done much to the hulls, just added the fenders on the Iraqi hull and some bits and pieces on the other. Here is how they are coming along.

I'm slowly getting bored with these to 55's. To make things worse, Trumpeter will be releasing their new t62 in July.Big Smile [:D]  I really have to get my a$$ in gear and finish these two, and the M1.

 

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Posted by Bodge on Monday, May 18, 2009 3:35 PM
Dont get bored , you cant on a couple of builds to that standard. You sound like me. If i dont get on with a build and keep at it i tend to lose interest and shelve the build. Its a weakness of mine the Famo im doin is one such model, but youve got too many people watchin this one and they are far too good to shelve, Keep goingWink [;)]
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Posted by RBaer on Monday, May 18, 2009 4:40 PM
Rob, these things looks great. I'm quite simply going to have to do a wreck, no question.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, May 18, 2009 4:54 PM

Stay with it Rob! Use the upcoming T62 as your motivation to get these done and out of the way. Wink [;)]

Love the littlle details you're adding, I hope you get a nice bulk discount from whomever you buy your sheet styrene stock from. Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, May 18, 2009 5:28 PM
that's right...i'd like to see them finished like everyone else! Tongue [:P] c'mon rob...finish....finish....finish!! they're too good not to!! 
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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, May 18, 2009 5:59 PM

OK guys, I'll stay on them but I've jumpedfrom the T55's to the M1 today. I figured I'd finish the M1 first then concentrate on the 55's. The poor Abrams was sitting begging to be worked on.

I have a couple of things to try out so the 55's will not go away for good, just a few days R+R.

 

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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:08 AM

After taking some time off from these two, I finally got around to working on them again. The two hulls are just about ready for painting. I have to add a few things first then it's priming time. The pics show some of the detail parts I added. I did add some more small details after these pics were taken. I'm not sure what I'll be doing as far as the tracks go, kit or AM, depends on how the painting comes out.

I'll take new pics just before I start the painting showing all the add ons. I got a bit carried away with some of the small parts. I initially intended on doing up just the one (Iraqi) T55, and the other OOB but you know how that goes.

 More to follow.

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:29 PM

Rob  gotta say tat looks great.  All the scratched deatil really set it off.  But those fenders... I wnat to marry them.  Sorry mannyBig Smile [:D]

 

I think I still have the tamiys one pice track off my T55 if you wnat them.  I also have some extra Friuls if you want to scatter them a round the destroyed vehicle.

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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:59 PM

Thanks for the offer Marc, I have to check to see if the Tamiya tracks fit these kits. I have a Tamiya kit too but haven't gotten around to checking yet, I hate doing tracks and wheels and usually save them til the end.I'll get back to you on that offer.

I finally finished both hulls and took some pics before I start painting this weekend. Warning..lots of pics.

Now the fun part begins...paint and RUST Rob's style. If you spot something that needs to be fixed, please let me know.

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:35 PM

You don't have to warn me about incoming pics!! Let's do this!!

Drink some more beer and get to it!!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by scratchmod on Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:30 PM

Right, this calls for atleast two beers Big Smile [:D] Before I paint any model, I always go through the painting stages in my head to try and come up with a game plan. Since I'll be painting these two using two different tech's, I have to try not to mix things up. So only two beers for these guys.

Wish me luck

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:32 PM
Good luck Rob! Going to look great, no doubt in my mind about the outcome. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, June 11, 2009 10:56 PM

 wbill76 wrote:
Good luck Rob! Going to look great, no doubt in my mind about the outcome. Thumbs Up [tup]

DITTO!

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Friday, June 12, 2009 10:17 AM

Rob:  These should be spectacular...I can't wait to see what you do with them!

BTW: I built the Tamiya T-55A and the tracks are nice.  They hold the paint much better than their old kits...I recommend them...that is if that fit of course!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, June 12, 2009 11:54 AM

Thanks for the feedback and support guys. I primed and applied my dark base coat today, but had to stop there for technical reasons. It's been raining for the past two days and my moister trap isn't working right. After 5 min of spraying it spits out water and that sucks. I have to remove the trap and place it further down the hose line away from the compressor. No new pics for now.

 

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, June 15, 2009 12:27 PM

I managed to take care of the spray gun problem on Friday and got the oils, wash and paint on one hull. I went to the local German club for a few hours ( and beers) and when I returned, SHOCK and HORROR. The hull was soaked with water due to the 3 days of rain and lots of moisture in the air, my reaction of course SoapBox [soapbox] SoapBox [soapbox]. I thought I thinned the paint to much at first, I then looked at the turret and it was covered in water droplets. The salt on the hull soaked up the water and melted, leaving stains and discoloring the paint. Glad I only painted the one hull.

Saturday was spent at a German fest ( more beer ) trying to get over the ruined hull.

Sunday, I managed to do some thing with the ugly paint job, not very happy with it but I still have the other hull and have learned a lesson. Here is how the hull looks, still more work to do on it and maybe it'll be ok.

I'll be painting the wheels when I get a chance, and hopefully they turn out OK.

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, June 15, 2009 1:36 PM
You must be seeing something that's not showing up well in the pics Rob because I can't see anything except, well, a wreck! Not sure if the water made it less likely for you to do what you wanted to in terms of paint removal and such but wrecks corrode and I see lots of nice rust/corrosion, so maybe it's really a positive? Wink [;)]
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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, June 15, 2009 1:36 PM

It looks fine to me Rob.

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, June 15, 2009 1:52 PM

Thanks guys. Yep, I couldn't do what I wanted to do. The paint was blotchy but I managed to fix it on the upper hull. The lower hull and underside of the fenders still have some blotchy spots I have to try and fix. I guess it didn't turn out the way I had hoped. Boy was I pissed when I saw all the water on the hull and turret, wish I was in Texas for the painting phase of this build.

 

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Monday, June 15, 2009 3:26 PM
looks good to me.
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Posted by BeltFed on Monday, June 15, 2009 4:47 PM
Kinda feel sorry for the crew....judging by the closed hatches ide have to say they have a 50 ton tombstone.
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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, June 15, 2009 5:22 PM
 

  Rob I'd swear that was real steel rusting and not plastic. Just superb, friend!

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, June 15, 2009 8:11 PM
i agree with the others...i cant see any blemishes...looks great! Wink [;)]
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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, June 15, 2009 8:43 PM

Rob if this a screw up I would take it anyday!  It is hard to believe that your T-55 is made out of plastic.  You my friend are a Master of Distaster!  You reading skills need work but your modeling skills rock!!  Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Keep the pics coming and don't forget between beers to tell us step by step how you are creating these excellent examples of war's flotsam!

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, June 15, 2009 9:09 PM

Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]too funny Edmund, but true. Been having problems with the reading and retaining info as of late.

Guys thank you a bunch. Guess I had a mental image of how I wanted it look and with the moisture problem things just got screwed up. I always have the Iraqi tank to play with, then I'll be trying something else on a --- Question [?]

I've put the Tamiya T55 on hold for now, some thing special in the works for that one. I'll be teaming up with a good friend and model builder on that little project. 

 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:25 AM

Rob: I don't know what you're seeing!?  What I see looks absolutely stunning!!!!  That has got to be one of the finest worn looks I've ever seen.  I'm picturing myself sitting with disastermaster with a tear in our eyesBoohoo [BH] as we oogleShy [8)] your work...drooling too of course.  I say, stay where you live and do a little rain-dance next time you get to this phase of constructionWink [;)].

I'll have to go back and check out your chipping technique...are there pic's on this thread?

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Posted by scratchmod on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:42 AM

Thanks dude, I guess it's because I know how it looked before, what a mess the water made with the paint.

There is a how-to on the second page of this thread, hope it helps you.

 

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Posted by Bodge on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:10 PM
I feel so sorry for you Rob ,it looks like a wreck now ,oh wellWhistling [:-^]
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Posted by jthurston on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:21 PM

Jeez...well if I ever get to the point where my skills are solid enough to attempt something like this, I'll PM you to see how you got that water problem.

scratchmod, I spent a year in the Sandbox, and as far as I can tell, if you took this build and shot pics of it with the right backdrop, it could pass for an actual battlefield wreck. The rust and metal wear are that spot-on. Your mods to the fenders, especially the on-fender fittings, are the difference between a well-rusted plastic model and a stunning replication of the real thing.

The coolest wrecks were the ones that had been blown in place before we got there, or else had simply run out of fuel or something, and had been left to rot in the Iraqi sun. On my base, there was actually a plane that had been destroyed during the Gulf War in '91, and they'd never bothered to remove it. By the time I saw it in 2004, it looked pretty cool. There was a T-55 hull, no turret, that looked just like yours here, but it had been used as a dumpster. Couldn't empty it, so they'd just left it. It had roadwheels but the rubber had been burned off, and the tracks were gone. I don't think I got any pics.

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Posted by scratchmod on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 3:57 PM

Laugh [(-D] hey Bodg, the wife calls it my junk.

 

Jthurston...thanks dude. Unfortunetily I can't find any of the photos I took back then in Iraq, I'm going by memory and pics off the web. My goal is to get it as perfect to the original as posible and I'm almost there.

OK guys, I started on the roadwheels today. Basically this is what I had planned for the hull to look like, but I had the water problem.

Here is how it should have come out without touching up the paint.

 

 

Here are the burnt wheels of the Iraqi tank, I couldn't help but paint them.

 

Another hour of painting and weathering and the wheels will be done. Sorry if the pics are too dark or out of focus.

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Posted by scratchmod on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:55 AM

I pretty much finished the road wheels, just have to weather the rubber later on when I put everything together. Here are some pics using a much better camara.

 

 

I will try to start the Iraqi wreck today, it has the base coat on already.

 

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Posted by camo junkie on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:23 PM
absolutely fantastic!! Thumbs Up [tup] so when is the tutorial comming out??? Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:56 PM
Rob your wrecked road wheels are the bomb pardon the pun!  Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:14 PM
Very nice work on the wheels Rob. Your usual attention to detail is in full force. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Bodge on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:28 PM
Excellent work, it dont get any better.Bow [bow]
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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:21 AM

Camo, Edmund, Bill and Bodge thanks guys, glad you like how that one is coming out.

I spent a few hours yesterday and today on the Iraqi T55 and here is what I've done so far.

 

Both T's are close to being done and still need tracks. I test fitted the Tamiya tracks but they don't fit so I may order some MK tracks. I also started a T34/85 that will be an old negleted monument on a concrete petistal.

Hope you guys aren't getting too bored with these two!!

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:59 AM
Amazing work!

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:13 PM
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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:49 PM
I can almost feel the corrosion seeping through my monitor! Getting closer Rob. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:05 PM
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Posted by Bodge on Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:47 PM

Yep totaly bored now with how talented you are, now shuv off to another site and give me ten years to catch up.Wink [;)]

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Posted by Guney on Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:41 PM

Wow...You're a wreck-expert....:)

Really good work....

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:44 PM

Hey Rob,

Looking great for wreackage anyway! Wink [;)]

I still find it hard to believe that your wrecks are made out of styrene!  I picked up a Tamiya T34/85 at the Show yesterday for $5.00 thar I could use as a painting and weathering test bed.

Keep it coming Rob!

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Monday, June 22, 2009 9:08 AM
 scratchmod wrote:

Alright Rob, now you're just tickin' me offBig Smile [:D]...dang-it this is good work!  Seriously nice effects going on here and those green highlights are AWESOME!...be sure they don't get lost in the "weathering"...or should I say rusting.  You may even want to bury some green and try to get the same effect in an area or two that would be protected from fire (if that's what causud the wreck)  or was shielded from the sun and weather.  That green is so powerful in the composition I'd run with it some more...just my My 2 cents [2c]...any chance or place you could put bright red?  How about a fire extinguisher...there would be some irony, huh?

It's really hard to critique the extensive rusting because I have no frame of reference but what I do think might help is some grease and grime.  Some thick raw umber & black washes in the corners...also some leaks from different areas like the engine compartment, axles, lugnuts, etc.  How about spilled/leaking fuel stains too?  I may be ahead of you on these comments and you may have already planned for this stuff but I think a bit of sheen will be a nice contrast to all the matte finishes...

Tour-De-Force work, I can't wait to see more!!!

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, June 22, 2009 9:33 AM

Thanks guys, 

SMJ..I do plan on doing most of what you suggested and thought about graffiti. This will all have to wait until I've solved the tracks situation. I tried the Tamiya tracks but they are too short, I started cleaning up the kit tracks but I don't like them much. I will most likely order some Master club tracks for these two and the Tamiya T55, when funds are availible.

Don't be surprised when I start post a new thread soon, I have an idea for a T34/85 then maybe a Sherman. Yep a Sherman, my first OD tank. I was also thinking about finaly paing that Sd.Ah 116 that I built but never painted. I need something to keep me occupied until the Trumpeter T62 comes out.

 

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Posted by terry35 on Monday, June 22, 2009 1:58 PM

Rob, I'm speechless. truely amazing.

If you want info on T34's PM me or to mail terry35@gmail.com  and I will send you my codes to an uploaded image file on T34's.

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, June 22, 2009 5:03 PM

Thanks Terry and also for the offer, I may take you up on it some time. The T34 will be basically out of the box, nothing special.

Well I hit a dead zone today, I spent the first hour in the hobby room and had no clue what to do there, just could not get my A** in gear. Then I think screwed up on the Iraqi T55 Banged Head [banghead], I always wanted to do a wreck with some graffiti, after DS so I tried it and I think I may have ruined the model. I sprayed some unit names including the one I was in ( 23 Eng 3AD ). Now I don't know if I should add more or not!!

Top things off Boohoo [BH] I sold my Abrams and PZIV today Boohoo [BH], I kinda was getting attached to them. Told the wife I need new kits now to heal the pain Big Smile [:D]. I think I see TWO Trumpeter T62's in the near future. 

Any hoot, what do you guys think, stop here or add more???

 Maybe some  in yellow!!

 

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Posted by Bodge on Monday, June 22, 2009 5:25 PM

Rob im not going to add any advice or critasizm as im not qualified to  only to say that your work is probably the best work ive seen to date by any modeller. Anyway i couldnt critasize anything anywayBow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow].

I saw your stuff for sale Rob as its on the same place  ive got some for sale,well done that looked like a fair price.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, June 22, 2009 5:27 PM

Hey Rob,

I really liked the wrecks without the graffiti but I am biased I can't stand graffiti in real life either!

Maybe me being offended by the @@sh@le that spray paints on something that isn't his is what you are trying to accomplish with your art.

It's not ruined by any means though!

It is just my opinion I am sure there are many people who will weigh in with the opposite opinion but at the end of the day it has to sit on your shelf and it's your expression.

What do you prefer?

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, June 22, 2009 5:42 PM

Thanks Bodge. It was tough selling these two for some reason. I normally don't get attached to my models because they're usually gone quick and it's onto better things and more fun.

Edmund, we think alike brother, I hate graffit too, really pisses me off when I see it. This one is kinda like theropy for me. It was my unit, and I had good friends in the others written on the model. We never painted anything on wrecks, no time for that, we had to blow ammo dumps and then build a compound in Kuwait. Oops [oops] I went Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic] sorry.

Both T55's are sitting next to each other and well one needed some color so they don't get mixed up. 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, June 22, 2009 6:59 PM
Outfreakinstanding.  There... I've said it.Wink [;)]

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Monday, June 22, 2009 8:41 PM
Shure wish i had your tallent.
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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, June 22, 2009 10:50 PM
Very nice airbrush work for that graffiti- you didn't fall in the trap I probably would have, but instead thinned it drastically to get a proper rattle can effect in 1/35, very transparent and haphazardly done in some places, and thick enough to almost drip in others, very well indeed. I like all the little A co and B co etc. back and forth... looks like a real landmark that a lot of people passed by Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:03 PM
In my opinion Rob you've got just enough graffiti on it as is. It adds a lot of character to the overall finish without being too distracting from the "wreck" side of things as well. The overlapped white and red sprays are also a very nice touch. Any more and I think you risk crossing the line into "too much of a good thing". Wink [;)]
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Posted by scratchmod on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:26 PM

Rob, Marc, Chris and Bill Thanks, I needed the confirmation. I wanted add some color but not over do it and distract from the rust effects and weathering, as Bill stated. It was a cion toss, do it or don't do it, and now I see the model completely different.

Has anyone ever used the Masterclub tracks? I wanted to order some for these two  but don't know if I should buy MK's or the MC tracks. I may bring these two to the AMPS East show so I want them to look OK.

 

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:24 PM
everything everyone else said and more. i really wish i could find some of my ds pics...but you got it pretty good! from begining to end this was a trip of fantastic endeavors...well done sir...well done!! Bow [bow]
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Posted by m60a3 on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:19 PM

 

 WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 6:26 PM
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Posted by 1SG Davis on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:35 PM

Rob,

Spectacular work, very reminiscent of a visit I made to an Iraqi AFV grave yard just North of Baghdad in 2005.  Most of the damaged AFV's there were from the Iran / Iraq war & the first Gulf war.   Your rust & weathering look spot on.

 

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Posted by I make stuff on Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:06 AM

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That's to prove I am watching this thread, but am speechless at your abilities and effects.   Amazing.

Understated is better than gushing, but you have an amazin talent, sir.

My sincere thanks for taking the time to share. 

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:11 AM
 scratchmod wrote:

Any hoot, what do you guys think, stop here or add more???

Rob

  Mannnnn, you are a freak! At this rate you're gonna be a legend here; of this I have NOoo doubt.

 I just don't see how you could attach any more bells or whistles (so to speak).......  well, maaaybe somehow dry-rot the mantlet cover a bit (which I understand would be difficult to acheive at this stage) and (fairly easy) "kill the shine" on it.

Taking it to the next level would definitely entail some surrounding groundwork.

This is like the candy in the window of the candy store.

It's  a b s o l u t e l y "delicious".

  I've been told by some here that I over-weather my projects. Well, that's history now  'cause I think I'm gonna ramp it up a few notches. This masterpiece may just be what I need to get my butt out of the ditch it's been deeply impacted into lately.

 My first two sentences are the best description of how impressed I am with your vision and ability.

 For me, this work demonstrates best what modeling is all about.

 http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ZWdUj8legsV7cM:http://images.clipartof.com/thumbnails/37092-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Little-Boy-In-A-Trench-Coat-Spraying-Hair-Spray-Or-Spray-Paint.jpg

PS-Where can I get one of those tiny spraycans?

http://www.innovationbyinstinct.com/services/hosting/clients/accountyp/status/DisasterMaster/%23t1-4.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by SMJmodeler on Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:54 AM
 disastermaster wrote:

I've been told by some here that I over-weather my projects. Well, that's history now  'cause I think I'm gonna ramp it up a few notches. This masterpiece may just be what I need to get my butt out of the ditch it's been deeply impacted into lately.

Uh oh RobShock [:O]...you lit a fire under Sir D!...that's a good thing thoughThumbs Up [tup], I was wondering what he was up to...Confused [%-)]

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Posted by scratchmod on Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:52 PM

Thanks guys for the kind words and sorry that it's taken this long to reply.

Well the guests from germany left today so I will have some time to model again, atleast til the inlaws arrive on the 10th.

I started on the tracks for the Iraqi wreck today and have one side done. Now I'm thinking of stopping there and maybe taking that lenth of track apart and maybe showing it thrown off the sprocket and wheels. 

The gears are turning and I'm back in the swing of things again. I thank you guys for motivating me  by seeing all the great models that are being posted here. Now I'm ready for a SERIOUS wreck Big Smile [:D] with a new rusting technique.

 

Rob

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:16 PM

Simply gorgeous, ROb--and enough grafitti, fer shur! Any more would be too much!

Dont even get me started on grafitti--I go around Europe and there is grafitti EVERYWHERE in some of these beautiful old countries and town. Prague is absolutely covered in it! 

I'm doind some big-time rusting and corruption here myself; I'll do a post about it when I finally get it finished, or close to it...can't wait to see your next project!!!

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Posted by scratchmod on Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:49 PM

Shock [:O] I think I'll have to buy a few more Tamiya T55's now that you had to show me these pics. I see a future project already.

 

Rob

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:15 AM

 Rob, it's one thing to be able to build and paint a tank, but to be able to build a destroyed rusting hulk as you have so successfully done is shear talent. Beautiful build.Thumbs Up [tup]

                                                                                      doc

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, September 7, 2009 5:57 PM

A quick up date on the T55, it's almost done. I painted (rusted ) the tracks and started on the base. The final weathering or rather dusting to blend the tank to the base will be done when the base is fully dry. It was a long over due model day today, and I got a lot done. The KVII is done now and this baby is nearing the finish line.

Here are a bunch of pics, hope it's not too many for you guys.

 

 The tracks still need some work, but that will be one of the very last things to do before I call this build done.

Any and all coments are most welcome, you may see something I may have missed.

 

Rob

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, September 7, 2009 7:43 PM

Between this and the KV1, I'm in total awe; right down to the missing greasecap cover.

http://www.innovationbyinstinct.com/services/hosting/clients/accountyp/status/DisasterMaster/%23t1-4.jpg

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, September 7, 2009 7:49 PM
Wow Rob! Oh My God that's Awesome!
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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Monday, September 7, 2009 7:59 PM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] NICE WORK ROB!

Very well done, very realistic.

-Will young modeler Test fit master
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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, September 7, 2009 8:27 PM
Wow, this is some mind numbing craftmanship, your skills are utterly amazing sir!!

Eric

 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:06 AM

Rob I don't know what you do for a living but you missed your calling if you're not a model maker for some movie studio or special effects company.Bow [bow]

Those road wheels are just unbelievable sir.

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 9:12 AM
Well worth the wait to see this one get some time back at the bench Rob! Sweet looking progress, can't wait to see this one cross the finish line. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Bodge on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:23 PM
Well thats just about as good as it getsThumbs Up [tup] You have earned the title of a modelling master in my eyes.
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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 3:34 PM
Nearly forgot about this one.  ANd that would have been a shame considering what that looks like.

Marc  

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:49 PM
Absolutely fabulous!

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:40 PM

Pure 100% master Modler TALENT!  hands down.

 

All I can say is WOW!

Bob

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 8:51 PM
 

  Truly inspiring work Rob. Only you could make a piece of junk look down right beautiful. 

   Looking forward to seeing you at AMPS. You are still going, right?

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by White_R34 on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 9:00 PM
WOW Bow [bow] It's so realistic it's "Absolutely Magnificent".
Building the Impossible Is my main goal!!
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Posted by castelnuovo on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 12:06 AM

 

 Great work...fantastic...If you like distroyed tanks how is about this one. It is a Serbian T-55 in Kosovo. I don't know how was it hit.

 

 

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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:41 PM

Rob thats art, don't know any other words to describe what I've seen.

Terry.

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Posted by scratchmod on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:57 PM

Thank you all for the kind words and motivation, just wish I had more time for the hobby. When this T55 is done, I'll start back up on the other T55 that has been stahed away in a cabinet.

Edmund and Doog, I love the idea of a crow perched on the barrel and some bird droppings to top things off. I'll have to check to see if I have something, if not then that will be a must for the next wreck, really cool idea.

I'm hoping to try and get atleast an hour of painting tonight if I can swing it. The in laws arrive tomorrow and the next two Saturday's I have to work so there won't bemuch more time to get this puppy finished.

Steve, you bet I'm going to AMPS, been looking forward to it all year Big Smile [:D]. It'll be nice to see you again and to meet some of the guys from here.

Once this T55 is done I'll post the finished pics.

 

Rob

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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 7:45 PM

Outstanding.....you can almost smell the burnt out hulk. Love the 4/18 grafitti. The tracks look fine. Hope to see you at AMPS in a few weeks.

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Axel Smith on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 10:55 PM
Wow. That is amazing. AMAZING! I cannot believe it! Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

- Alex

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Posted by T-rex on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:52 PM
fantastic tank, I keep that tutorial in mind for futur projects.

Working on: Trumpeter SU-152 (1/35) Trumpeter E-10 (1/35) Heller Somua (1/35)

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:35 AM
Your painting skills are out of this world!  I look at these photos, and they really do look like they are of the real thing.  Amazing work, can't wait to see them finished.

Frank 

 

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Posted by m60a3 on Friday, September 11, 2009 1:27 AM

 Question;

 Rob has...

A. Photoshopped

B. Has the actual vehicle, and photo'ed it.

C. Is one of the Greatest modelers, ever!

 My answer is "C''. Please say I won the completed build!?!?!?!?

 

            60, in awe!

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Posted by scratchmod on Friday, September 11, 2009 2:32 PM

I don't know about C, but thank you guys for the kind words and I'm glad you like it.

All that's left to do is secure the model (?) to the base and do some light dusting and she ready for AMPS at last. I'll try to take the pics of the completed model by the end of the weekend and post them here first.

 

Rob

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Posted by Guney on Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:07 PM
Great...!....:)
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Posted by firesmacker on Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:17 PM

I don't know how I missed this! I think I remember clicking on this thread back when you were still just talking about doing it. I am at a loss for words Rob. With the right background and photo equipment there would be no way to tell it from the real thing. Really well doneThumbs Up [tup]

Regards,

Jeff

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