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                        M26 Pershing (Tamiya)

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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        M26 Pershing (Tamiya)
                        Posted by lgl007 on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:40 PM
                        Hi all,

                        Just about to begin my new project, the M26 Pershing 1/35 from Tamiya. Question, did the US military ever paint them any other color other then that standard US military green? I'm gonna be using it for a diorama and I was rather hoping for something more interesting then just plain old military green.

                        Any reference cites on the web that you know of? I need some reference material for finishing this sucker off... since as you all know Tamiya models are pretty santized out of the box you really need to work hard to make them look more "in action" Wink [;)]

                        Any help you all could give me would be more then helpful.

                        -Greg
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                        HeavyArty
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Valrico, FL
                        Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:53 PM
                        AFV Interiors is a great site for detail photos of the vehicle. You can find it here: http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/m26/m26a.html

                        M26 was not done in camo or any other color than OD green. There were many examples in Korean war with tiger paint scheme on the front though.
                        Here is an example:





                        Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

                        Check out my Gallery: https://app.photobucket.com/u/HeavyArty

                        "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

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                        cplchilly
                        • Member since
                          January 2004
                        • From: SO CAL
                        Posted by cplchilly on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:55 PM
                        There were some in the Korean war painted with tiger faces on the hulls and the turrets for scaring the Chinese and North koreans. This months issue of Fine Scale Modeler has a picture of one someone did.
                        [img]http://members.fcc.net/ice9/badge.jpg
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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:52 PM
                        Thanks for the link... very helpful but does anyone know of a site that details exterior markings and color schemes? This site is mostly interior detailing...

                        Hmmm ... I just though of something... was the Pershing used in WW2? I'm not a history officianatto or anything...

                        -Greg
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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:00 PM
                        Just looked it up... and just like I thought... yes the Pershing was used in the closing stages of WW2... /whew... cause I wanted to do a WW2 dio... anyhow, so now to the main question about color schemes used in WW2 on the Pershing... any more thoughts?

                        -Greg
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                        shermanfreak
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                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:53 PM
                        W.W.II Pershing ..... you have your choice between Olive Drab Green and Olive Drab Green. That's about all I've ever seen them painted in.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:07 PM
                        Be happy, you don't have to do German tri-color camoflauge pattern. Nice, simple O.D., just doesn't get any easier.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:14 PM

                        Pershings also got to Okinawa, but it did not arrive in time to see action. They were sent there to prepare for the invasion of Japan. I think they were on Okinawa like a week before Japan surrendured.

                        And guess what.....The paint was OD Green!

                        Sorry man. If you want a colorful Pershing your best bet will be one of the Korean ones.

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:22 PM
                        It just so happens that I've got something sittin on my desk that you really need, "Osprey M-26/M-46 1943-1953. Everything you need is in it. Got mine at Barnes & Nobles. I'd definitely recommend the reference.
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                        J-Hulk
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Tochigi, Japan
                        Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:43 AM
                        Did any M26 Pershings get the Tiger face treatment in Korea, or were they all M46 Pattons, as pictured above? Some M4A3E8s also got faces, no? How about the Chaffees?
                        ~Brian
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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:48 AM
                        Thank you all for your help, Pathfinder - I will definitely look up that reference book at my local hobby shops and book stores.

                        Much appreciated gang Smile [:)]

                        -Greg
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:35 AM
                        Heavy Arty! NICE M46! (yes, a couple of the few M26's were also painted that way in Korea, as were M4A3E8's. Never saw a photo of a Chaffee painted that way). The M26 and M46 were mechanically similar, the M46 had an improved engine (and different exhaust arrangement) as well as a 'wobble stick' steering control as on the M47.

                        Shipment of new M26's to ETO entailed some water proofing where a slightly glossy or darker area would appear around the mantel, base of the turret and such. Take a look at some reference photos of them in Europe and you'll see what I mean.. This could ad some interest to your paint scheme and give it that 'brand new for battle' look.

                        Ron
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                        HeavyArty
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Valrico, FL
                        Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:47 AM
                        Ron,
                        Is a great looking M46, but I can't take credit for it. I found the photo on the net, not mine. Not sure whose it is, but it does look great.

                        Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

                        Check out my Gallery: https://app.photobucket.com/u/HeavyArty

                        "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell

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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:06 AM
                        Well I guess I'm stuck with that US military green Disapprove [V]

                        Boy, I have to tell you, German armor is sooooo much more interesting Wink [;)]

                        -Greg
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:18 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by lgl007

                        Well I guess I'm stuck with that US military green Disapprove [V]

                        Boy, I have to tell you, German armor is sooooo much more interesting Wink [;)]

                        -Greg


                        Camouflage generally did get a lot more interesting when an army had to hide a lot. Notice the Germans used that boring panzer gray during the Blitz Krieg. Like the Soviets, the Americans were more interested in turning out lots of tanks at that time and it was much easier to do a single color.

                        RonBig Smile [:D]
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                        Abastyr
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        Posted by Abastyr on Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:29 AM
                        Just a quick note on this Kit. I enjoyed constructing this model. All the pieces fit together well, and the Kit turned out as one of my best. Tamiya did a great job on this kit. You will enjoy it.

                        Abastyr
                        My Model Page http://www.andysmodels.com
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:08 PM
                        One of the WW2 units to receive the some of the few T26E3 Pershings was the 3rd Armored Div. Frequently they sprayed black camouflage bands on their tanks. Dig around and you may find some evidence of this. They also fielded the much modified T-26E4 Super Pershing. It had the black/OD camouflage.
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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:10 PM
                        Wow... Ericadeane, black striping/camo sounds very intriguing... gotta look that up. If any of you find any pictures of these camo'd Pershing's I'd love to see them... I'll do my best to look it up on the web but I'm not having much luck with Pershing info :-(

                        -Greg
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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:13 PM
                        Hey all... found something... but not sure how accurate these depictions are...

                        http://homepage.mac.com/brentdietrich/alliedarmor.html

                        -Greg
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:00 PM
                        Folks,

                        Speaking of Pershings there is a great display at the Patton Musuem of Armor at Fort Knox. We lost Pershings in Korea at the start of the war because we didn't have the right serpentine belt for the cooling fans. Engines overheated forcing the crews to abandon them and sadly become POWs -many of which never returned. Great example of how one little part will shut down one of these machines.
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                        mark956
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mark956 on Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:40 PM
                        I have the Tamiya M26 Pershing. Thanks for the info on it.
                        mark956
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                        link955
                        • Member since
                          October 2003
                        • From: New Hampshire, USA
                        Posted by link955 on Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:43 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

                        Did any M26 Pershings get the Tiger face treatment in Korea, or were they all M46 Pattons, as pictured above? Some M4A3E8s also got faces, no? How about the Chaffees?

                        According to Squadron Publication's "Armor in Korea", Pershings, Pattons, Easy 8s and Chaffees all got faces, depending on the crew. As for scaring anyone, I have a feeling that 90mm gun on the Pershing and Patton might do a better job than a painted faceSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. Whaddya think?
                        Ne cede malis (Latin: Yield not to misfortune)
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                        J-Hulk
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Tochigi, Japan
                        Posted by J-Hulk on Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:59 PM
                        Absolutely!
                        ~Brian
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                        link955
                        • Member since
                          October 2003
                        • From: New Hampshire, USA
                        Posted by link955 on Friday, January 23, 2004 6:09 AM
                        On the other hand, my ex-wife was pretty scary with a painted face.......... Shock [:O]
                        Ne cede malis (Latin: Yield not to misfortune)
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                        J-Hulk
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Tochigi, Japan
                        Posted by J-Hulk on Friday, January 23, 2004 7:36 AM
                        Badda-boom!
                        Thang yew, thang yew, he's here all week, folks!Big Smile [:D]
                        ~Brian
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                        Keyworth
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: NE Georgia
                        Posted by Keyworth on Friday, January 23, 2004 7:50 AM
                        FSM welcomes you to a night at Minsky's!
                        "There's no problem that can't be solved with a suitable application of high explosives"
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 23, 2004 10:21 AM
                        My ex is scary without her face painted!Wink [;)]Wink [;)]

                        (actually, she's not all that bad, just couldn't stay married, that's all!)

                        RonBig Smile [:D]

                        Now, take my ex.... Please!

                        1) My wife left me for a desert island.

                        2) Jamaica?

                        1) No! She left on her own!

                        My ex is so mean, her new boyfriends send ME alimony.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 23, 2004 10:22 AM
                        What was this thread about?

                        Ron
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                        link955
                        • Member since
                          October 2003
                        • From: New Hampshire, USA
                        Posted by link955 on Friday, January 23, 2004 11:04 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Poniatowski

                        What was this thread about?

                        Ron

                        Something about Pershings, no tanks to you.
                        Ne cede malis (Latin: Yield not to misfortune)
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                        lgl007
                        • Member since
                          May 2003
                        Posted by lgl007 on Friday, January 23, 2004 12:17 PM
                        You guys are too much ;-P

                        -Greg
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