FINISHED PICS--Russian S51 by Trumpeter; -- BRRRR!!!

Doog I have to agree that your photography is right on the money and shows exactly what I'd love to see and your tracks are always great. Nice build.

Vladimir

Hello, The Doog.

it's interesting choice of model. of course you'll have many questions about KV's suspension because there  were too many mistakes in Trumpeter's KV suspension. it's about theit early production. i guess they have corrected it in new production like this one but not all. if you want to check suspension you can use interesting articles where author compare Trump's details and real detail from museum. i think the pictures will be enough, without text.  www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm   but there is one important think - is that early KV's suspension or late ? i mean kv part of ww2 period or after ww2 ? as i rememmber after war kv (or IS) part have many differences..  

Thank you for that great resource--that's an awesome site and the link will be very helpful to anyone who is interested in the KV tank details!

In the question of "accuracy", this is an old debate, and one in which I have weighed in on in many instances.on the side of "artistry" vs "accuracy". I am not necessarily disappointed by small dimensional errors or small details which vary in things like welds, bolt heads, etc. I'm one of those guys where, if it looks like the tank, it's good enough for me in most instances. On occasion, if the tank is well-known, or historically-significant, I will take the time to correct a manufacturer's errors (like the old DML Maus, on which I intend to correct certain errors. Rarely do I ever correct suspension errors, as they're not really "eye grabbing details" to most. I'm more likely to correct significant hull errors, or things that "stick in your eye". But I do thank you for taking the time to make s aware of the differences.

Wayne, Wow, a "Railroad" GB, now that's ambitious!

That's interesting about the M60 and the suspension particulars.

Congratulations on your Unimog triumphs! That's great!!! Next step is to take it to a regional, or National contest! Or better yet, an AMPS!

Thanks, Bill! I"m trying to keep up with your output, but that's impossible of course!

Hello, The Doog.

it's interesting choice of model. of course you'll have many questions about KV's suspension because there  were too many mistakes in Trumpeter's KV suspension. it's about theit early production. i guess they have corrected it in new production like this one but not all. if you want to check suspension you can use interesting articles where author compare Trump's details and real detail from museum. i think the pictures will be enough, without text.  www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm   but there is one important think - is that early KV's suspension or late ? i mean kv part of ww2 period or after ww2 ? as i rememmber after war kv (or IS) part have many differences..  

Bish

really nice work with those tracks. And as much as I love GB's, I have to agree with you there, they have got a little to much. that's one reason I am double hatting by doing WiP threads for builds in GB's. best of both worlds.

think i will double down as well on the GB. JIBBER and i have a RAILROAD GB in january. he is doing a 1/35 BR-86 and i am doing a BR-52 or K-5 RR gun w/C-12 diesel. but i digress again.

tracks look good IIRC and ROB will correct me, M60s had one more tank track link on the right side. way too much cool stuff in the stash.

oh and DOOG, the UN UNIMOG took a another first and second in a couple of local contests. it has almost as many awards as 1/35 MAS torpedo boat.. i suppose it isn't bragging if it's true.

Looks good with the 'shoes' on there Karl, rolling right along!

Bish, good for you, sharing your post in the Armor section as well! I'm watching your halftrack--you're knocking that ball out of the park so far!

Thanks, Hugo! Remember, these tracks are already sagged--it's molded in. But thanks for the nice compliments just the same. :)

It will be good to see you back here with a new build! :)

really nice work with those tracks. And as much as I love GB's, I have to agree with you there, they have got a little to much. that's one reason I am double hatting by doing WiP threads for builds in GB's. best of both worlds.

Hey doog! very nice sag on the tracks, your builds always look more clean and the photos are very professional, like the ones you see in books.

Yep, IM about to finish my base for my armor and close up the GB. I will be back in here with a Merkava.

Finally, yes, its Hugo.

Hi all,

I managed to get the tracks on. They're really a breeze after you clean them up. You'll want to put one more link than specified on the one side....I want to say that it's the right side, but can't remember exactly, The sag is just about perfect in them. As I stated before, they're link-and-length.

Workin, away....hopefully I can get this ready for paint by Saturday! Stay tuned!

Thanks for tuning in, too. Hugo! (garzohn--it IS "Hugo", right?)

As Gino pointed out, that's a characteristic of torsion bar suspension.

You should build more here in the armor forum. I am not a fan of Group Builds as they drain off too much traffic and contribution here in this community. But, to each his own. :)

ygmodeler4

Looks good so far Karl...any progress on Object 279 or is it taking a back burner to this one?

Thanksgiving and deer season, two of my favorite things!

The Object 279 is still a project in the works. I just have to decide what kind of setting to put it in, and how much time and money I want to spend on it. Originally, I was going to put it into a setting that I later realized wouldn't make contemporary chronological sense; i.e., the setting wouldn't have existed in the time period, and would have been distracting in its error.

I am now thinking of modifying an existing MiniArt kit into a coal breaker such as I grew up around in Coal country, Pennsylvania. It would be so cool--but also pretty time consuming. I just am reluctant to spend more time on it right now as there are so many cool kits that I want to build.

Hope you have a good turkey day, and get a nice buck!

Hello my friend!

This is going to be such a cool build. Definitely I need to keep tuned into this forum, basically this year I spent a lot of time in diorama and GB builds.

Those sprockets are really weird.... does the real tank has the same differences??, maybe on one side of the armor there was not enough space due to the engine or transmission and they had to make it offset.

Looks good so far Karl...any progress on Object 279 or is it taking a back burner to this one?

Thanksgiving and deer season, two of my favorite things!

And thanks, guys---good to be back in the armor field again. I'll try to get some more pick up before I go up north for Thanksgiving and deer season!

Pawel

Hello Karl!

Good to see you building another armor subject! It's looking good, too! Plus, that doogie definitely is cute, that's for sure.

While trying to find out more about the S-51 I stumbled upon this link here:

panzerserra.blogspot.com/.../s-51-soviet-heavy-spg-203mm-part-01.html

I hope it will be helpful to you - good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

Bish

Another Russian beast, interesting looking build karl, going to be fun to watch.

Gino is spot on there. I assume you have built a Tiger or a panther. Have you noticed how the suspension arms go in different directions, forward on one side and rear on the other. This is why, and its why they don't have the misaligned wheels as you have here.

HeavyArty

...one weird thing about this: The distance from the last wheel nearest the sprocket varies drastically from one side to the next. I've triple-checked it, but it seems to be correct? Strange. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Torsion bar suspension. They are always staggered from side to side to allow the pairs of torsion bars to sit next to eachother. If they were in line, the bars would hit eachother.

Interesting vehicle. Looking forward to seeing it built.

Nice project Karl and congrats on being a grand-doog!

Hello Karl!

Good to see you building another armor subject! It's looking good, too! Plus, that doogie definitely is cute, that's for sure.

While trying to find out more about the S-51 I stumbled upon this link here:

panzerserra.blogspot.com/.../s-51-soviet-heavy-spg-203mm-part-01.html

I hope it will be helpful to you - good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

Congrats, Grand-doog!

Another Russian beast, interesting looking build karl, going to be fun to watch.

Gino is spot on there. I assume you have built a Tiger or a panther. Have you noticed how the suspension arms go in different directions, forward on one side and rear on the other. This is why, and its why they don't have the misaligned wheels as you have here.

Gotta love the World of Tanks video game for that !

Can't wait to see what this bad boy will look like once complete. Continue your great work !

...one weird thing about this: The distance from the last wheel nearest the sprocket varies drastically from one side to the next. I've triple-checked it, but it seems to be correct? Strange. Anyone have any thoughts on this?