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ERTL'S 1/72 M48 A5
Posted by Matt Sawyer on Saturday, February 15, 2020 8:44 PM

Hi all. I pulled an older 1/72 scale kit from the stash recently. It is ERTL'S 1/72 M48 A5, and I was wondering if any of you had tips on detailling it (i.e. materials)?

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 16, 2020 2:46 AM

Hello!

You might want to check out my build thread here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/p/135370/1397431.aspx

for some ideas... Good luck with your build and have a nice day

PaweĊ‚

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, February 16, 2020 1:26 PM

Matt Sawyer

Hi all. I pulled an older 1/72 scale kit from the stash recently. It is ERTL'S 1/72 M48 A5, and I was wondering if any of you had tips on detailling it (i.e. materials)?

Here's how I tackled the "double wide" road wheel problem on the Abrams kit. The same procedure will work on the Esci M48 or M60 road wheels.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=features&file=view&artid=149

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, February 16, 2020 2:56 PM

OKB Grigorov website sells all the correct roadwheels and tracks you might want for this kit.  The tracks even have the holes on the guide teeth. They are not expensive at all.  Just do a search for OKB Grigorov and click into the home page.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Sunday, February 16, 2020 3:43 PM

warshipguy

OKB Grigorov website sells all the correct roadwheels and tracks you might want for this kit.  The tracks even have the holes on the guide teeth. They are not expensive at all.  Just do a search for OKB Grigorov and click into the home page.

Bill Morrison

 

Thanks Bill! Do they ship to the USA?

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, February 16, 2020 8:28 PM

Yes, they do. Their shipping rates are also more than reasonable.  Using the Esci M48 kits, I built the entire range of the M48 series of tanks.  I used the OKB wheels and tracks for all of them.  One thing you will have to do to add accuracy to the kits is to build the three lifting hooks on the turret; the ESCI kits don't have  them.  I also strongly recommend looking at Pawel's build of one of these kits. He did an outstanding job!

Bill

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:52 PM

First WIP Pic: The Turret. Big Smile

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, March 20, 2020 6:48 AM

That muzzle looks a little on the thick side, but that's easy enough to fix. 

That's a fine start with those copper lifting rings added. 

I used to build those old kits as they were some of my favorites. I'm really looking forward to seeing more progress on this.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 20, 2020 8:47 AM

Looks good to me, the brass lift rings do look great! 

And thanks for the matchstick for size reference. I swear I can't see how you guys work on stuff this small, you've got better hand-eye coordination than I. 

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Friday, March 20, 2020 12:31 PM

M. Brindos

That muzzle looks a little on the thick side, but that's easy enough to fix. 

That's a fine start with those copper lifting rings added. 

I used to build those old kits as they were some of my favorites. I'm really looking forward to seeing more progress on this.

 

 

Thanks! How should I fix the muzzle?

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:12 AM

I'd just sand it down carefully. You don't want to take too much off.

They're just not that thick on the real thing. You can barely tell that there is much difference in circumference between the gun tube and the muzzle tip.

The muzzle tip is hard to see from the rest of the gun tube.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, March 22, 2020 1:25 PM

Gamera

Looks good to me, the brass lift rings do look great! 

And thanks for the matchstick for size reference. I swear I can't see how you guys work on stuff this small, you've got better hand-eye coordination than I. 

My profile picture is a Matchbox 1/76 scale M3 light tank next to a quarter. 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:07 AM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
Gamera

Looks good to me, the brass lift rings do look great! 

And thanks for the matchstick for size reference. I swear I can't see how you guys work on stuff this small, you've got better hand-eye coordination than I. 

 

 

My profile picture is a Matchbox 1/76 scale M3 light tank next to a quarter. 

 

 

Thanks Rob. I'm going to need a (much) stronger Opti-Visor before I mess with anything like that! 

Blind Fold

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 10:39 PM

Some more progress on the A5. Been working on the upper hull of it and added the road lights. Need to figure some sort of roll guards for them. As per recent advice for you guys, I sanded down the muzzle brake, went to far with it, but was able to salvage it with plastic putty.

I will also be looking for photos of the searchlight over the gun so I can accurately show it with a cover. I was thinking of adding a small piece of thin clear styrene to the front of it, and then covering it with facial tissue dipped in a 50/50 white glue+water mixture.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:08 AM

Matt: That looks really good to me, nice work! 

The facial tissue should make a good canvas cover- and if you don't like how it turns out you can always pull it off and try again. 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:11 PM
You can also use a piece of styrene rod or tubing if you can't totally eliminate the gun tube seam. I did that on my Esci Abrams build. At this scale, you don't need to worry about the taper.
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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Friday, March 27, 2020 9:08 PM

Hiya all! More WIP Pics of the M48 A5. Quite proud of it atm I am, and I will explain why as we go along. But first an overview pic.

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The first picture we have is of the hull. Not much here except for the headlight roll-bars that I made using .010 x .030 styrene strip.

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Next we have the "crown jewel" of this build in my opinion: The turret. I am happy with how it turned out and looks so far. As you can see, it has been equipped with its searchlight and a electrical power wire made from a strand of 18 gauge wire. And in the next picture, you can see it all put together for a test fit.

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Next will be the suspenssion, once the resin parts arrive.Big Smile

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, March 28, 2020 1:24 PM

FYI, we threaded the searchlight power cable through the center turret lifting eye.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, March 28, 2020 1:36 PM

So Rob, how many places on an M48 A5 can be used to open a beer bottle?

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, March 28, 2020 2:22 PM

GMorrison

So Rob, how many places on an M48 A5 can be used to open a beer bottle?

 

Bill

 

They only allowed us cases of canned beer back then.

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:55 PM

Rob Gronovius

FYI, we threaded the searchlight power cable through the center turret lifting eye.

 

Oh that's interesting! Thanks for the info! I must make that correction now. Smile

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:16 PM

Matt: She continues to come along nicely! Yes

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:10 PM

Hi everyone. Well this M48A5 project has to be paused (as many of you may have guessed) because the susspension resin parts can't be shipped from Bulgaria. Sad

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:32 PM

warshipguy

Yes, they do. Their shipping rates are also more than reasonable.  Using the Esci M48 kits, I built the entire range of the M48 series of tanks.  I used the OKB wheels and tracks for all of them.  One thing you will have to do to add accuracy to the kits is to build the three lifting hooks on the turret; the ESCI kits don't have  them.  I also strongly recommend looking at Pawel's build of one of these kits. He did an outstanding job!

Bill

 

Been having some trouble with the suspension recently. It seems I put the wrong parts on for the A5 version:

Help!

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 10:22 AM

All M48A5s were rebuilds from previous M48A3s, so they will have differences based on the production variant they began as. Some even retained the .50 cal turret with vision riser while most had the low profile cupola with M60D machine guns.

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 11:01 AM

Don't forget that M48A5s had five return rollers per side.  Esci/Ertl 1/72 M48s were molded with only three per side, making them M48A2s.  I am building one as an early M48A2.

Bill 

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 11:07 AM

warshipguy

Don't forget that M48A5s had five return rollers per side.  Esci/Ertl 1/72 M48s were molded with only three per side, making them M48A2s.  I am building one as an early M48A2.

Bill 

 

I see. But the tracks, rollers, road wheels and drive sprocket won't aline properly. A little fustrating I must say.

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 11:19 AM

Matt,

They can if you are careful. I recommend checking out an old thread here by Pawel, 

1:72 M48A3 Vietnam DONE!

He does a remarkable job of it.  You might find some helpful advice.

Bill

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Posted by Matt Sawyer on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 11:48 AM

Okay, thanks! :)

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:25 PM

warshipguy

Don't forget that M48A5s had five return rollers per side.  Esci/Ertl 1/72 M48s were molded with only three per side, making them M48A2s.  I am building one as an early M48A2.

Bill 

That's not true; it depends on what the tank began as before it was remanufactured into an M48A5. Here is an old Vermont National Guard M48A5 with three return rollers:

http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviation/VermontMilitaryMuseum/M48A5PattonTank/pages/01M48A5PattonTank.htm

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