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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:43 AM

Yup, could be a PRC -25 or a PRC-77. The main difference between the two types, IIRC, is that the -77 can be hooked into COMSEC devices, while the -25 could not.

really fun to hump in your ruck along with mission and existance load...

 

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Posted by GlennH on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:56 AM

stikpusher

Yup, could be a PRC -25 or a PRC-77. The main difference between the two types, IIRC, is that the -77 can be hooked into COMSEC devices, while the -25 could not.

really fun to hump in your ruck along with mission and existance load...

 

I'm terrible at numbers. I think it was a PRC25. 1969. I was pulled off the gun being the FNG and sent to hump with the FO. The old batteries in the background I had just finished cooking. I have to wonder how small batteries could be now! Those two spares were each about the size and weight of a housebrick! 

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:55 AM

The PRC-77 still used the same batteries as the 25. The 77 was just an upgraded 25. We still had some in the Guard when I retired in ‘07. But we also had the replacement PRC-119 radio which used a battery that was approx 1/3 the size of the one used on 25/77. The early model PRC-119 was bigger than the 77. But the last manpack type that I used, the E Model was about 4” x 6” x 15” IIRC. The radio both frequency hops and scrambles transmission in COMSEC mode, and can pre preloaded with multiple channels, able to be switched from the handmic. Its a really good piece of equipment. 

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:17 PM

GlennH

 

 
stikpusher

Yup, could be a PRC -25 or a PRC-77. The main difference between the two types, IIRC, is that the -77 can be hooked into COMSEC devices, while the -25 could not.

really fun to hump in your ruck along with mission and existance load...

 

 

 

I'm terrible at numbers. I think it was a PRC25. 1969. I was pulled off the gun being the FNG and sent to hump with the FO. The old batteries in the background I had just finished cooking. I have to wonder how small batteries could be now! Those two spares were each about the size and weight of a housebrick! 

 

There was one other difference between the PRC-25 and PRC-77, the PRC-25 had vacuum tubes and the PRC-77 was solid state. However, the size and weight of the ruggedized case was the same for both sets.

The new field radio gear used by the U.S. Army and Marine Corps still looks bulky to me, but I've never worked with it so I can only hope it has improved since Vietnam.

SINCGARS (Single Channel Ground and Aairborne Radio System) operated in a HMMWV.

PRC119 Manpack used by Marine officer in training at Quantico, Virgina.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:26 PM

Those images are deceiving Sarge. The vehicle mount has two separate radios installed. The man pack guy has it in his assault pack.

this is what I carried for manpack overseas... 

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 2:53 PM

stikpusher

Those images are deceiving Sarge. The vehicle mount has two separate radios installed. The man pack guy has it in his assault pack.

this is what I carried for manpack overseas... 

 

Carlos, it looks about the size of a shoe box and if correct that would be a big improvement over the size of PRC-77.

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Posted by TigerII on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:25 PM

Hey Harold, that is exactly how its written out in long hand.

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:31 PM

TigerII

Hey Harold, that is exactly how its written out in long hand.

 

Roger that! Thank you TigerII.

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Posted by GlennH on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:39 PM

I regret that having taken hundred of pics with that 35mm I still have that I never took one of my complete ruck with the radio and all the other crap. I've only seen one image that looks very much like I recall. oh well...Confused 

 

BTW your progress is looking great.

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:54 PM

GlennH

I regret that having taken hundred of pics with that 35mm I still have that I never took one of my complete ruck with the radio and all the other crap. I've only seen one image that looks very much like I recall. oh well...Confused 

 

BTW your progress is looking great.

 

I did the same thing Glenn... I had several pictures of when I was in the Navy and only one, one stinking picture of when I was in the Army. And to top it off I lost that one picture about five years ago. Some things are just not to be meant to be in life. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:42 PM

The way I learned it, you can tell a 77 from a 25 as the former has more bootprints in/on it by frustrated RTO.

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:34 PM

CapnMac82

The way I learned it, you can tell a 77 from a 25 as the former has more bootprints in/on it by frustrated RTO.

 

I believe the PRC-77 was a better radio than the 25, but I just excepted military radios as a heavyweight version of Ham radio. I recall being impressed by the PRC-25 and 77 modular design and knew if a soldier had basics trouble shooting knowledge and the parts he could simply replaced a bad module and he was back in business.

Harold

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:25 PM

The 77 is a very reliable radio. At least in my own experience. Add a long wire antenna instead of those whips, along with site selection,  and you can do some good long distance talking (for FM).

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:56 PM

stikpusher

The 77 is a very reliable radio. At least in my own experience. Add a long wire antenna instead of those whips, along with site selection,  and you can do some good long distance talking (for FM).

 

Regarding distance; an AN/PRC-77 radio had to meet FCC requirements in its basic design and therefore a 2-watt VHF (FM) radio was good for 3 to 5 miles on flat ground. However, like Carlos said a radio operators who knew their equipment could often get better quality communications with a longer antenna.

Harold

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Posted by TigerII on Thursday, May 14, 2020 11:41 AM

Hey Stik, your assessment of the AN/PRC-77 is correct regarding reliability and that long antenna gave you excellent transmission & reception but it also made it easier for the enemy to spot that RTO. Also the long antenna would get caught up in low canopy forests. I remember when I had to hump with the grunts, there was the company CO's RTO, that along with the 77 he also humped the encryption radio. He always used the long antenna to make sure he got clear reception. My RTO always used the short 'tape' antenna and as long as I was able to get the battery FDC, I was happy.

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:08 PM

I was referring to wire antennas, not the whip antennas that came in the radio accessory bag. Each of our surveillance teams was issued a GRA-50 long wire antenna kit. Those are very effective. Eventually several of the RTOs or Team Leaders would buy spools of speaker wire since it was insulated, to use in field conditions. You can get a LOT more range out of those long wire antennas cut to match the frequency to make a quarter wave antenna. Even using commo wire to create a “jungle 292” improvised antenna gives superior performance to the issued long whip antenna.

And yes, that long whip antenna standing straight up, does draw attention.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Sergeant on Friday, May 15, 2020 12:44 AM

I completed assembly of step 1 and part of step 2 to create the lower hull shell. The second half of step 2 is assembly of the suspension system which I will work on tomorrow.

The Black Dog interior detail kit arrived today, and it is amazing. It looks like hundreds of quality resin and photo-etched parts. I was especially impressed with the instructions sheets. This model will definately have all the doors and hatches opened.

Lower hull shell.

Black Dog resin and photo-etched parts.

Black Dog instruction sheets. And by the way I learned to have a large dish towel over my lap to catch all the parts I drop, it saves a lot of time and frustration.

Photo-etched deck plates and other parts.

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Friday, May 15, 2020 2:21 AM

Below are good quality reference photographs for the AFV Club M109 L23 (short barrel, self-propelled howitzer). I purchase one on eBay and it's in transit from Taiwan. The interior of the M109 L23 is not the same as the M109A2 shown in the previous post. As of right now I don't have any interior reference photographs for the M109A2 other than the Black Dog instructions sheets.

Men in the photographs below do not appear to be American artillery men, but the interior of the M109 looks the same as U.S. Army units from the 1960's. The M109 I served with was introduced in 1963 and still used long after it was upgraded with the M109A1 and M109A2. It was manufacture in the United States by United Defence LP now BAE Systems Land and Armaments. It was sold to dozens of different countries and the lastest version is M109A7 in service 2013 to the present. The M109 in different versions has be used in ten wars around the world over a period of 57 years.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 15, 2020 8:39 AM

Those are Israeli soldiers. The IDF first used the M109 in combat in the 1973 October war.

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Sergeant on Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:52 AM

Thank you Carlos, I didn't know what Army the men were with, only that they were not U.S. Army or Marine Corps. I completed steps 2 through 4 which includes the suspension system, drive sprockets and road wheels. Step 5 is the start of upper hull assembly and it will wait until Black Dog interior parts are installed and painted.

I also ordered two sets of FriulModel metal tracks for the M109A2 and M109 L23 which should arrive next week from Portland, Oregon. I was originally planning to use the AFV Club #AF35S23 plastic tracks, but after reading some reviews decided to try the FriulModel tracks instead. I hope they are as good as advertised because they cost twice as much as the plastic tracks.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, May 17, 2020 1:57 PM

Hello Sarge!

You've got a very nice discussion going on in your thread - even if it isn't directly model-related I like it a lot.

Do I understand it right that you want to build two howitzers? Or are you just building the "short one"? I got the black dog interior some time ago and I wonder how would one go about fitting it to the A-nothing variant of the M109.

I'd like to recommend Tamiya white primer in a spray can for your interior white - with some black acrylic wash the interior looks just right IMO. And the white really covers, that's not always the case with other paints.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Sergeant on Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:17 PM

Pawel

Hello Sarge!

You've got a very nice discussion going on in your thread - even if it isn't directly model-related I like it a lot.

Do I understand it right that you want to build two howitzers? Or are you just building the "short one"? I got the black dog interior some time ago and I wonder how would one go about fitting it to the A-nothing variant of the M109.

I'd like to recommend Tamiya white primer in a spray can for your interior white - with some black acrylic wash the interior looks just right IMO. And the white really covers, that's not always the case with other paints.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

 

Hello Pawel, I try and keep the focus on modeling, but sometimes it gets off on other things. I certainly don't mind as long as we are talking about the military.

You do indeed understand correctly I'm building the M109A2 and M109 L23 together or as close together as availability will allow. The Black Dog interior is for the M109A2. I haven't seen the other kit yet, but it's probably not going to have a complete interior.

I served with an M109 L23 Battalion and wanted for a long time to build that model. However, it is my longer term goal to build a series of M109's that cover as many versions as there are models available. I really like AFV Club models, but I don't think they cover more than four out of the eight versions.

The reason I'm doing two this time is our State is still in COVID-19 lockdown. We are not allowed to do much more than get groceries and go to the doctor. No social activity, no dinning out, no haircuts just stay home and stay safe until probably the end of June.

Regarding the M109 interior, do you know for sure the original color is white? I honestly can't remember it's been almost 50 years. Whatever color it is I will need to match with paint I can spray. I have an Iwata miniature spray gun with 1mm adjustable nozzle for large and medium areas and an Iwata airbrush with .35mm nozzle for fine detail. So far these paint tools plus a selection of paint brushes cover every application I have had in modeling. Also I don't use spray paint cans if I can avoid it because I can't control the paint very well.

Harold

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:49 PM

Sergeant
Also I don't use spray paint cans if I can avoid it because I can't control the paint very well.

Without wanting to put words in Pawel's mouth--he is superbly capable--I'm guessing he's refering to how the Tamiya white primer is kind of a unique white color which is neither XF-2 nor X-2.

But, that is a guess.

Some modelers will, when a spary can color is the perfect thing, will "decant" the color, by spraying it into a cup to collect the paint, which can then be transfered to an airbrush with whatever thinning or admixtures seem apt.

As to the color, well, I'm a squid, not a red-leg.  Even as a Beachmaster, I was nt near enough to the arty to have a good look inside the SPHs (which were on different ships than I was, too).

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Posted by Sergeant on Sunday, May 17, 2020 4:27 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Sergeant
Also I don't use spray paint cans if I can avoid it because I can't control the paint very well.

 

Without wanting to put words in Pawel's mouth--he is superbly capable--I'm guessing he's refering to how the Tamiya white primer is kind of a unique white color which is neither XF-2 nor X-2.

But, that is a guess.

Some modelers will, when a spary can color is the perfect thing, will "decant" the color, by spraying it into a cup to collect the paint, which can then be transfered to an airbrush with whatever thinning or admixtures seem apt.

As to the color, well, I'm a squid, not a red-leg.  Even as a Beachmaster, I was nt near enough to the arty to have a good look inside the SPHs (which were on different ships than I was, too).

 

CapnMac82, when I was in the Navy they called my rate 'Snipes', in World War II they called us the 'Black Gang' because we wore black hats when all the enlisted below Chief wore white hats. During the First World War my rate was called 'Stokers' or 'Water Tenders', but the men were generally referred to as 'Fireman'. Squid is an old Navy term used by other military branches especially Marines to refer to fleet sailors. If I am correct the Beachmaster function previously was performed by what we called a 'Shore Party' made up of the ships company and Seabees? I could be wrong, it's been a long time and many things have changed in the military.

We were known as Snipe's men:

https://navydads.com/profiles/blogs/why-the-navy-term-used-for-engineers-is-snipes

I think this Tamiya white spray paint or primer is something I will look into. In the past I used Tamiya Gray Fine Surface Primer, In fact I still have two brand new cans in my supplies. But I started using Vallejo paint and primer late last year and found the #71.001 White was more of a satin finish than gloss, perfect for the ONTOS interior. That's why I asked what color the M109 interior should be, because I may have a good match already. However, If I learned anything from this Forum it's that I'm always learning something new and I agree Pawel is an experienced model builder and reliable source of information.

Harold

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:22 PM

Yup, the original M109 was semi-gloss white on the interior.  Actually, all M109s have been and are still white on the inside.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:38 PM

Hello Gennulmen!

Thanks a lot for your kind words. When recommending that Tamiya white primer I didn't mean it is any unique shade - it's just white, but one that covers well. That's really handy. Sarge - you don't have to worry about controlling the spray very much here, you're just putting one or two thin coats, and the paint does a really good job on self-levelling. If you want to go really sophisticated, put one coat of Tamiya grey primer and another one of white primer on top of that, and voilla - white interior parts in just two thin coats.

That's the results I got this way (plus some weathering):

1:35 AFV Club M728 CEV by Pawel

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Sunday, May 17, 2020 8:10 PM

Sorry I did not participate in this thread earlier. As a FDC Chief at the battery and Squadron (Cavalry) levels I was getting a charge out of some of the calls for fire. I too went to Fort Sill for both basic and AIT as a 13E. Though I crewed a M577 Command Post Carrier, I was near the guns to calculate all of the firing data and sent the commands to them. My first assignment was to 1/29th Field Artillery within the 4th Infantry Div. at Fort Carson, CO; it was an M109 unit. My next assignment was in West Germany from 79-83, then assigned to 2/83rd FA (M110A2, 8 inch nuclear capable howitzers). This was during the Cold War. Later after getting another MOS, but being a career soldier, I was reassigned according to the needs of the Army, back to a 13E FDC slot in the 3rd Squadron 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. Each squadron has its own artillery battery (M109's). With three cavalry squadrons in the 3rd Regiment we effectlvely had a artillery battalion. Here I was the FDC Chief in Charlie Battery, as an E-6 and later transferred to Squadron S-3 (Operations) to double duty as the Squadron Chemical NCO (54E) and Fire Support NCO (13E) both as  E-7. 

Over the years I received calls for fire missions from American Army, Marines, German and Italian Army soldiers. I remember receiving adjust fire missions, supressive fires, DEFCON FPF's, zone and sweep, high angle, illumination, and nuclear missions. When I started in the military there were no computers to calculate the firing data. You had a military map (with terrian elevation), your plotting chart, and Range Deflection Protractor (RDP) Graphic Site Table (GST), Graphic Firing Table (GFT), etc. You received metriological updates for tempreture, air density, wind direction / speed, etc. After calculating the barometric corrections they would be plotted on the GFT (time, elevation and drift). There also were no digital/encrypted communications so each fire mission had to be authenticated through a CEOI. Later FADAC, TI-59, and TACFIRE computers as well as digital and encrypted communications updated the process and basically eliminated the need to authenticate through a CEOI. I really doubt if an FDC specialist even gets trained in the manual/manual method anymore. The data sent to the guns were a deflection (right or left of the battery laid position); quadrant (barrel up or down basically elevation for distance); and Time for a fuze setting (for anything other than HE/PD rounds).

A battery had 6 guns and normally the most proficient gun was set in the three or four position as "base piece". They were the single round adjusting gun on adjust fire missions...to site in or adjust the round to the target. Once the steel was on target the FIST or Foward Observer would call in the "Fire For Effect" command. Based on the target description the FDC would then call for the entire battery to load up. Depending on the mission it could be one command to fire, fire when ready, or fire by command (a single or multiple rounds). 

One of the wildest fire missions to see as an FDO is a "zone and sweep" mission. This is basically quilting a target. Lets say for example,  the size of a grid square (1K), where a round falls at a designated spread, normally every 50 or 100 meters. A mission of this size was not done with one battery but with a batallion or brigade level mission. 

One of the craziest missions to watch from the battery position is a final protective fire FPF while using a "bee hive" round. Talk to anyone who has seen it, they will tell you. It is great for clearing a tree line too. Strange sound going down range, but devestating. I could talk all day about this.....

But I cannot wait to see this build progress. Are you going to also build the FDC M577 or the ammo carrier (M548, Gore, or?)???

Keep up the great work!

Ben

 

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Posted by sprueman on Sunday, May 17, 2020 9:44 PM

Cool history, my self i was an FDO in 6/29 in Germany.

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Posted by Sergeant on Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:42 PM

Wow SFC Aberegg, you have been hiding in plain site. Thank you for your contribution to this project. Yes I purchased an AFV Club M54A2 6x6 to carry ammo for the Vietnam era M109, that was Gino's suggestion. It's still in the box waiting it's turn at the bench. An M548A2 would cover a period from the 1960's all the way through the Gulf War. GlennH has some great pictures of trucks carrying ammo to fire bases during Vietnam and AFV Club has some interesting 155mm ammo kits that look just like Glenn's photographs.

DRUMS01
You received metriological updates for tempreture, air density, wind direction / speed, etc. After calculating the barometric corrections they would be plotted on the GFT (time, elevation and drift).

But I cannot wait to see this build progress. Are you going to also build the FDC M577 or the ammo carrier (M548, Gore, or?)???

Keep up the great work!

Ben

Thank you Ben. My job in the M109 Battalion was 05F40 RATT Team Chief, I was the one providing the data you mention during a fire mission. I don't claim to be a Red Leg, I was an E-5 Petty Officer in the Navy. I enter the Army as a Buck Sergeant right out of college after two years of electronics engineering and six years in the Navy. My specialty was radio and telemetry, I worked on part of the Apollo Space Program in 1969 to 1972, but as Gino said I was an honorary red leg training at Fort Sill. My collar devise was crossed cannons just like yours and I was proud to be in the Artillery. I was offered promotion to Staff Sergeant in 1975, but instead took a job with Tektronix. In retrospect I should have done both, but hind sight is always better when you're older.

Harold

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Sunday, May 17, 2020 10:54 PM

sprueman: So you obviously knew Graf.? Where was the 6/29th stationed during your time in Germany? When were you there? As an FDO you most likely also remember working up a Safety "T" for the safe firing zone while at Graf., am I correct? Did you ever lay a battery into a firing position? 

Sergeant: I am no expert on the M109 itself. I was around them all day, and had friends who commanded them. Sometimes we helped each other when possible so I know a little. I did get to fire an M110 a couple times (pulling the lanyard). My real time was in the FDC (M577), or BOC (5ton cmd. box). Recieving the call and training my men to proficiently and accurately calculate the firing data to put steel on target, that was my mission.

Stik is a good guy, retired from the military, recently retired from the police department, and full of great military knowledge. From my time in this forum, he is one you can really rely on regarding information and authenticity.

As for modeling, I currently have two M109's, an M110, a M548, and a M577 in scale. Some day I want to build a hip-shoot diorama with a single gun. Back in the day that is how they trained to shoot tactical nukes as they leave a telling firing signature for counter battery fire.

Delta 35 this is Romeo 60, End of Mission. Three Tango 62 and 4 Bravo Mike Papa's burning, out. 

OK, I'm quiet now and my apologies for my rabbit trail on this wonderful build thread. From what I remember historically, this is looking to be an epic build of a M109. I am sitting back and watching this one develop.

v/r,

Ben

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