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Testors Italeri 1/35 M47, 759th Tank Battalion, Patton Project Pt.2

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:58 PM

Thank you for your kind words Gamera.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:30 PM

That looks great SP!!! Heart

Love the family portrait too!!!! 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:20 PM

M1GarandFan
I always felt like Tom, that the Pershing would have been a great help earlier in the ETO, but I never really appreciated the reliability issue with the Pershing vs the Sherman. Good stuff!!

Thanks M1. Yeah, Korea was an interesting situation. Most tank vs tank fighting was in 1950, then dwindled by 1951. The Pershing's were phased out in 1951 and replaced by Sherman's and M46s, with the Sherman being preferred for its superior mobility. The M4A3E8 Sherman, with the now standard 76mm APDS round for tank to tank fighting was more than adequate in fighting the T-34/85 at standard combat ranges. Had that round been available in mass quantity in 1944 for 76mm gunned Shermans when US and German armor saw the most frequent combat, it would have improved things. The Sherman requested, but that never was, a Jumbo with the HVSS "E8" suspension and 76mm gun would have been an even better solution to ETO US tank losses.

 

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 2:28 PM

Stik, thanks for the "family" photo. You can really see the development and the ancestry there. Thanks also for the history lesson on the family through the 1960's.

I always felt like Tom, that the Pershing would have been a great help earlier in the ETO, but I never really appreciated the reliability issue with the Pershing vs the Sherman. Good stuff!!

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:38 AM

Thank you Tom. The M46's Tiger scheme is mostly painted. The yellow was airbrushed on over the OD, then I hand painted the stripes & nose whiskers. The eyes, claws, and mouth were decals. If you ever build this kit with these markings, I suggest leaving off the front tool rack and tow hooks until after those decals are applied due to the contours of those items. Hindsight is 20/02, right?

The M47 is the Testors boxing of the original Italeri release.

Pershings earlier into combat? Interesting point. During the bocage battles, perhaps they might have reduced their superior armor protection, compared to the standard Sherman. But after the breakout from Normandy during the pursuit phase across France, the Sherman's superior automotive reliability and mobility really came into play. Those items plagued the Pershing in Korea, and they were replaced there in less than a year of entering combat.

Regarding the M48 and M60, yes, they are evolutionary outgrowths of the original Pershing design, so the y are a part of the family. The M46 replaced the engine and transmission of the M26, but kept the same main gun of the the M26A1 and a modified of the suspension from the original M26. That engine and transmission would be modified, eventually into a diesel version, but power the rest of the family. The M47 replaced the M46 turret with a new one, and modified the hull front. M48 introduced a new hull front and turret, as well as the diesel version of the engine later in the series, but kept the suspension and drive train. M60 introduced a new main gun and hull front, while later versions introduced new turrets, main gun on the A2, and other detail changes. So yes, from 1945, until the early 80's when M60A3 production ended and the M1 took over, it was one long family line.

 

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 7:47 AM

Great shot of some excellent modeling work!  Your color modulation of olive drab is outstanding!  I've got to ask, is the Korean War tiger schemed painted or a decal?  Was the M47 the old Italeri's or the new Tamiya reboxing of the Italeri kit?  I've always liked the Pershing and often wondered how the war would've turned out if they had come into action in Europe a year or two earlier.  The book "Spearhead" by Adam Makos is a good read if you like the Pershing.  Does the M-48 and the M-60 belong to this family?  Your group shot reminded that the guys on one of the modeling podcasts are doing a group build with their listeners for next year's nationals, their building all the variations of vehicles based on the Sherman/Grant/Lee frame.  Anxious to see more of your work.

TJS

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, November 8, 2021 12:51 PM

M1GarandFan
Stik, A "family" portrait is a great idea. Would love to see you post it.

 

My Pershing Patton Family so far built over the past several years. Dragon T26E3 (2013), Dragon M26A1 (1997), Dragon M46 (2020), Italeri M47 (2021). 

EDIT- better photo taken

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, November 7, 2021 2:34 PM

Thank you Tiger. I'm happy to read that you like this.

 

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Posted by TigerII on Sunday, November 7, 2021 12:48 AM

Nicely done, Stik.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 6, 2021 10:57 PM

Tojo72
Very nice,details look great and I like your greens.
 

Thanks Tony. The base OD is Mission Models. But looking at the photos, I think I need to go back and tone down the tracks a bit.

 

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, November 6, 2021 9:48 AM
Very nice,details look great and I like your greens.

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Friday, November 5, 2021 11:46 PM

Very good. Thanks for the info on the M47. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 5, 2021 11:27 PM

M1GarandFan

Stik, A "family" portrait is a great idea. Would love to see you post it. Fabulous job on the M47. All that engine detail is wonderful. What era are we talking about with the M47? Early '50's?

 

Thank you! Ill see about getting the "family" portrait done this weekend M1. The M47 was in US Army service in the early to mid 50's until replaced by the follow on M48. It stayed with the Guard and Reserves for a few years longer, then of course if served with various allied nations for longer. Some countries did like the M48 and replaced the gas engine with Diesel engines, and upgunned to 105mm main guns to keep it as a viable MBT into the 80s.

 

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Friday, November 5, 2021 10:56 PM

Stik, A "family" portrait is a great idea. Would love to see you post it. Fabulous job on the M47. All that engine detail is wonderful. What era are we talking about with the M47? Early '50's?

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 5, 2021 10:51 PM

keavdog

Very nice!  I had forgot about this one - you did a lot of scratch work on the engine if I recall.  Sure looks good.  Line all the cats up - you did the Pershing right?

 

Thanks John. Yes, this had been sidelined for the past 4 months since early July, so easily forgotten... Embarrassed

And yes, lots of work in the addtions into the engine compartment, as well as external mods to back date it to an early production variant. All of that contributed to losing steam on this one. 

Yes, I now have the M26, M26A1, M46, and finally this M47. I do need to get a family portrait photo taken.

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, November 5, 2021 10:00 PM

Very nice!  I had forgot about this one - you did a lot of scratch work on the engine if I recall.  Sure looks good.  Line all the cats up - you did the Pershing right?

Thanks,

John

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 5, 2021 9:46 PM

Well, after sidelining this one in the mid summer due to life going on, I knuckled down on this one and wrapped it up over the past few day. Calling this done for now until I can whip up a proper base, a figure, and perhaps a few more additions.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 1, 2021 4:19 PM

Thanks guys. Been kinda busy around here with stuff so I haven't had much urge to be at the bench when I've had the free time. I do want to get this one all finished up soon. Just need to feel that energy flow to do the last bits.

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, July 1, 2021 3:37 PM

Carlos,

What everyone else has said... really nice work! Looking forward to the final reveal.

Ben

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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, July 1, 2021 2:19 PM

Carlos,

The texturing on your model is outstanding! I have to admit that I didn't fully see it coming together until now.  The decals (especially your Black Panther) is impressive as well.  Well sone so far!

Bill

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, June 27, 2021 11:49 AM

That's so cool! Love the black panther markings! 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 26, 2021 3:22 PM

Thanks M1! The finish line is finally in sight! Not too much longer until it's ready to rumble!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:21 PM

She looks ready to rumble! Beautiful finish work, Stik.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:12 AM

And the decals are now on! Not that many, even if some are a bit large and gaudy. 

 

 

 

These Star Decals are a bit thick and matt in finish. It’s taken a few doses of Solvaset to get the larger ones to conform to the texturing.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 25, 2021 2:18 PM

M1 & John, thank you guys! I do appreciate your kind words.

So yesterday was bit more work on the road to completion,

 

I painted the road wheel and return roller tires using Mission Models Rubber Black. Then I airbrushed on a coat of Future in preparation for decals

 

 

Then I had to give the tracks a test fit…

 

 

Decals coming soon…

 

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U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

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Posted by Keyserj on Friday, June 18, 2021 3:50 PM

There is nothing quite like seeing an American tank in good ole olive drab. The cast armor texture looks amazing! I especially like the casting numbers you added. Yes

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Posted by M1GarandFan on Friday, June 18, 2021 1:55 PM

Stik,

She looks great ( as usual for you ) and I love the mantle cover job.

As hot as it is where you are I'm surprised the paint doesn't dry coming out of the nozzle!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 18, 2021 11:44 AM

Thanks Gamera. Ya know, I'm thinking about trying a black green or very dark OD for my next US AFV build instead of the black. At least for the non suspension and non grill areas. Then go with OD over that.... 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 18, 2021 11:23 AM

Okay, now she's starting to look like an American tank!

The texture you added looks wonderful under the paint. And the black base makes her look almost pre-shaded already. Guess I need to try that, I usually just prime the model in a dark OD green colour and just lighten as I move up.

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