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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 8, 2024 8:12 PM

Yeah, I tried matching German paint from photos back when I started modeling and it gave me massive headaches. Now as long as it's ballpark it's close enough. 

Good luck with the decals, hadn't thought about the figure being 1/25th. 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, July 6, 2024 1:20 PM

DRUMS01
Here are some of the photos we were using for examples:

From personal observation, there are few things as varied in appearance as Wehrmacht gas mask cans and the German mess tins.  Everything from a blackgreen to medium metalic gray (for either component).

So, you have some leeway in what you want to commit to.

The surviving examples are typically 80-something years old, so you get a range of appearances.  None of which is helped by how the East Germans kept producing the mess tins--although I think those are a touch more blue-green than the Wehrmacht examples.

This project is moving right along, and it keeps looking outstanding.

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  • From: Ohio (USA)
Posted by DRUMS01 on Saturday, July 6, 2024 10:11 AM

Thanks Gamera... Since last update I've managed to finalize the detail painting. We were running into some issues, being in 1/25 scale, for the rank, shoulder board, collar, Waffenfarbe (piping on the collar and shoulder boards). It seems that it is just to far for either 1/16 or 1/35 decals to work properly. 

My solution is to scan in the 1/16 decals in my PC then scale them down and print them on decal paper. That goes for the grenade and Panzerfaust too (I hope). It looks as though the goggle strap on the helmet obscures the shield decals on either side so that will be a non-issue.

Wish me luck! 

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 5, 2024 9:13 PM

Great to see you and Jarrod still at work on this. The figure and bike are coming along beautifully! Heart

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Monday, July 1, 2024 12:41 PM

Jarrod says "Thank you" for your repliues. 

Believe it or not Jarrod and I have another update; this time with the soldier / rider. Last update we provided a picture with the muddy boots and lower trousers. We are happy to say we have gotten most all of the base coats on the various load bearing equipment and are ready for fine detail painting and washes. 

Here are some of the photos we were using for examples:

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And this is where we are at the moment: (some minor color changes still WIP)

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Not sure what I'm gong to do for the detail / decals on the potato masher and Panzerfaust. Now it's time to bring out the small brushes and pick out the details. Likewise, we hope to have some fun with the shoulder boards, buttons, belt, and collar of the uniform. I am a little surprised to see that he does not have a watch (?). 

The bike including the tires have been touched up and blended to the base so we are on the home stretch to get this rider mounted on his iron steed. 

Till next time, and thanks for following.....

Ben and Jarrod

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, June 28, 2024 5:12 PM

Very naice.  I like how the mud is "in" the tread, and "rubbed off" the contract area.

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Posted by S Hollowell on Friday, June 28, 2024 7:26 AM

Nice work!

 

S.H.

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, June 27, 2024 8:34 PM

Sorry for not updating this earlier, and thanks for the kind remarks concerning the figure. I was practicing on it at 1/16 before I tried doing it in 1/35. Then I noticed the rider is not wearing any kind of smock / over garment and all he was wearing was the normal uniform. Still it was good practice for the 1/16 figures I got for the half track. 

I think it is time for an actual update on the kit, lets start with the base and motorcycle. I wanted to do more but my skills must be diminishing in smaller scales. I finally got the paint mix to what I wanted which was a mixture of desert sand, German ochre, and Kaki; 2 ochre, 1 sand, 1 kaki. The the very light washes did the rest. 

After spraying the desired parts I then began picking out the details starting in the most recessed like the engine gray/silver and working my way out eventually to the cables and wires. After spraying the hard bag I created it brought the hinge down to scale (IMHO). I still have some fine detail painting to finish on the motorcycle, but it is mostly complete. 

One of the bigger challenges was to match the tires to the painted mud base. You would've thought it should be easy, and perhaps it would've if I had painted them each time I added a layer to the base. Now I'm trying to begin the tires at step one after finishing the base after step twenty. Part of the challenge is to show rubber tire just a little near the mewl wheels and progressively moist mud as it reaches the tread of the tire. When done the mud nearer to the wheels should look dryer than the recent mud at the base of the tire. That too is still a work-in-progress. 

The decal for the speedometer was sources from spares as was the data plate on the left fork and the tire pressure on the fenders. Well enough flapping my jaws, here is where its at right now. Before you beat it up too much, keep in mind that this is only 1/24 scale.... :violin: 

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So how's the figure going you ask? Working in a similar manner (from the deepest most recessed parts outward, I got his base uniform painted to include shading and some dirt / mud on the front of the lower pant legs. 

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Right now the gaiters are looking too close to the color of the trousers. The picture below will be what they will look like when done (not sure if the leather straps will be black or tan/brown as both were used). 

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Thats it for now, more updates soon, sooner than this last time. I believe Jarrod and I are getting back into the modeling swing (and it feels good!). Thanks for looking and as always, comments welcome.

Ben and Jarrod

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by S Hollowell on Tuesday, June 4, 2024 6:59 AM

Hi, Ben and Jarrod, thanks for the update! This is really good looking, excpecially the water!

 

S.H.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 3, 2024 7:49 PM

Ben and Jarrod: That looks great! Love the camo! Hope things are a little more stable considering all the chaos you've went though... 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Monday, June 3, 2024 1:42 PM

Sorry everyone for the lack of updates, but it seems that life got in the way for awhile. Jarrod and I don't have very much to show but I did want to add something.

Here is the resin terrain along with the wood base we are adding under it. I like the detail provided in the resin including the water puddles.

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Another thing we have been working on is the camouflage technique for the WW2 German fall oak leaves pattern. There is still more camouflage detailing to do and then finish up on the rest of the figure, but you get an idea as to where we are going with it. 

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Hope to be able to show work on the motorcycle very soon. Till then....

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by S Hollowell on Tuesday, May 21, 2024 7:34 AM

I'm really sorry, Ben.

 

S.H.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, May 20, 2024 10:03 PM

OMG Ben, I'm so sorry to hear that! 

My hopes and prayers you get this mess straightened out ASAP... 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, May 18, 2024 10:55 AM

Hey!

       I walk alongside you Drums- My fireproof box and my landladys were stolen while we were out.They made a mess. All my documents and hers have to be replaced. At least we had our wallets with usI My Birth and Adoption certificates are gone though, and so far $600.00 bucks and difficulty in finding some. Remember, I just turned 81

      Those items are important. So I hold your hand as we walk through and pray. Okay? You are not alone friend! Oh, I had my Regimental coin put in a key fob. Whew! I imagine you feel like we do,  The feelinng is like being raped and left for dead!

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Saturday, May 18, 2024 10:26 AM

Thanks for checking-in Gamera. Well, nothing more to say then my modeling *** has had a hit. 

Last weekend, while attending a large collectors car auction my wallet was stolen. I did not identify it missing until a couple hours later, on my way home (200 miles from the event). Hoping that they just took the money and tossed the wallet I immediately reached out to the location but nothing was turned into lost and found. Initially I thought, well there goes $XXX dollars, but then I thought about all the other stuff in it. 

When I say wallet, that means every form of identification (drivers license, insurance cards for health and vehicles, three credit cards, Social Security Card, Government retirement card, Military retirement card, etc. Yes ,I felt it must be worst than a swift kick in the crotch. Other items included my regimental retirement coin (from the commander), notarized guardianship form for my son, and more.

Over the last 64 years I've never felt more violated than I have now. So the last couple days was spent freezing, blocking/locking, and ordering new everything. For fear of identity theft I also signed up through protection service to ensure my retirement, bank accounts, pension, etc. are secure. All in all, so far it has cost me well over $800.00 as well as copious amounts of grief, anxiety, and self ridicule to gain my life back again!

I hope and pray that none of you ever have anything like this happen to you or a loved ones. Needless to say, this has had a big impact to my modeling *** for the moment. So, if you don't hear from me for a couple weeks, that is why.

Rest assured that Jarrod and I will be back soon. Till then have fun modeling something in scale. 

Ben (a.k.a.) DRUMS01

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 8:07 PM

Hey Ben and Jarrod, got anymore done on this? I really want to see how she turns out. 

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:08 AM

Thank you all for the information regarding the bike color and the figure, it will be very helpful. Now I just need to apply it to the kit. 

Ben (and Jarrod)

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Posted by S Hollowell on Tuesday, April 30, 2024 9:36 PM

Here is a Wehrmacht camouflage smock/shirt, so I guess there were some German non-SS camo clothes. 

https://www.wehrmacht.es/en/uniformes-wehrmacht/1661-smock-splinter-wehrmacht.html

S.H.

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Posted by TigerII on Tuesday, April 30, 2024 3:24 PM

My two cents regarding which uniform you will use is this; if you give the bike Waffen-SS registration plates make sure that the rider is also WSS. If you go with Heer, make sure that the rider is Wehrmacht. Besides that, it seems like you're doing a wonderful job. 

P.S. Glad you're doing better.

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 29, 2024 6:49 PM

Good luck with the camo guys!!! 

I've been painting modern Russian and Ukranian digital camo uniforms and so help me I think I'm about to go blind.... Blind Fold

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, April 29, 2024 1:07 AM

Pea pattern is no cake walk either.  Most German camo schemes are involved...something to be said for feldgrau ;)

Verlinden "The system" volume 1 has some good stuff on painting a couple of the german camo schemes.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Sunday, April 28, 2024 8:27 PM

Why thank you sir.....

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, April 28, 2024 1:17 PM

The "pea dot" (Erbsenmuster) camo in your sample photo is a 44-45 pattern, or a touch after your stated date.

German uniform camo went through a bunch of iterations, and there's overlap for some.

For '43 you probably want an "Oak Leaf" (Eichenlaubmuster), but that's also an awful thing to paint for all its soft edges and blurry color demarcations.

Now, an argument could be made for "Plane tee" (platenenmuster)

 

There is the issue that, mostly, only the Waffen SS used camo, which can limit what you are depicting, too. 
So, the Luftwaffe's splinter pattern (splittermuster 41)

Could be an option--this is not an ideal patter n to try an paint in model form.  Those needle splinters are very tiny.

This is not a bad article for reference on this:  https://www.artizandesigns.com/guides/germanpatterns.pdf

And, there are those who will argue all different sorts of ways on this topic; peoples' prised oxen are easily gored.

And, as always, this is all down to what you want to depict.

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Posted by S Hollowell on Sunday, April 28, 2024 8:21 AM

I think you should do the camo clothes! I just used Tamiya XF-60 Dark Yellow for my motorcycle.

 

S.H.

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Saturday, April 27, 2024 2:47 PM

Been a while since my last post. After checking a third time I feel fairly confident that Jarrod and I have removed all the mold or sprue ports from the kit. We've also finished all the little modifications and cabling on the BMW. 

From what I've researched, all the early bikes (prior to February 1943) were painted in field gray (Zundaps and early BMW flatheads alike). All the bikes manufacturers forward were painted tan / desert sand (think Dunkelgelb) except those going to the Eastern Front. Jarrod and I were planning on modeling ours in a 44 European pattern, so I guess ours will Dunkelgelb. 

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With that in mind, we primed the motorcycle in light gray. Now were are trying to determine the correct version of Dunkelgelb to paint it. Some appear as tan, others more like mustard, and some even a green/tan/dunkelgelb mix. We are not planning on a camouflage bike. I know several of you have built variations of WW2 German motorcycles so if you have a good mix for the main color please let us know. (thanks)

The figure has also been primed and we are beginning on the base coats. Most of the photos we've previously shown had them apparently wearing a poncho but our figure is not. This leaves us with basically two options; the field gray uniform:

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Or a camouflage like below:

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It's nice being back behind the hobby table. Thanks for looking, for your input, and we look forward to posting more updates shortly. 

Ben and Jarrod

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, April 14, 2024 12:49 PM

DRUMS01

Gotta take a break as I hyperextended my knee and boogered up some internals. Being my hobby cave is in the basement and I have to keep my leg elivated with the RICE method there will be no building for me for a little bit.

Best wishes that you heal up quickly.  The bench can seem like a restful place, but, it's not the same as properly resting up (sadly).

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Posted by S Hollowell on Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:48 AM

Sorry about that. Hope you heal quickly!

 

S.H.

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Saturday, April 13, 2024 10:41 PM

Gotta take a break as I hyperextended my knee and boogered up some internals. Being my hobby cave is in the basement and I have to keep my leg elivated with the RICE method there will be no building for me for a little bit.

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 12, 2024 5:18 PM

Looks great guys!!! Nice to have an expert in the family that can help out with the details! 

I've got a 3D printed futuristic cyberpunk bike I need to get assembled and painted. At least here if the details aren't right I can say it's because super advanced design or something like that.... Wink

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