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Italeri Group Build Sept. 1, 2006-Jan. 15 2007

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  • Member since
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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Saturday, January 6, 2007 8:44 PM
Made some major progress on my Panther A today, just about ready to lay down some paint.  I'm going to do mine as one that served with "Gross Deutschland"

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, January 5, 2007 8:53 PM

Thank you both Eric and Glyn !Smile [:)]

I will probably go for a complex pattern of ..........  german grey   Clown [:o)]

I will depict a French campaign vehicle, and will try to work a bit more on my weathering skills. That will be my second one.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, January 5, 2007 8:47 PM

 treadwell wrote:
absolutely top notch, Jean!!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]-- a very clean and meticulous looking buildApprove [^]-- the tow cable looks awsome!!  could you elaborate on how you made it or tell me what issue you had your cable details published in??-- excellent work dude!!-- thanks --- treadTongue [:P]

Thanks Tread! Smile [:)]         It was in the last November issue. But let me get into more details here Wink [;)]   I took some cable that is used to hook up stereo speakers. There should be 8 tiny brands twisted in 2 goups of 4, running side by side. I took a bit longer than what I needed, and stripped the insulation. That's the tricky part as these individual brands are really fragile, and if one is slightly damaged, it will snap later. I then tried to separate each of them as best as possible. After this, I took 2 pairs of small locking pliers. I clamped down both end, making sure the brands are side by side, as close a possible to each other. I then started to twist one end until it looked like I wanted, trying to keep a constant tension.

I noticed that by varying the tension when you twist, it gives different results Wink [;)] 

I made the end clasp by forming the loop with the help of a drill bit, folding the cable back to were I wanted the steel thingy (on a real one) to end. I glued it together a this point. I made the renforcement steel points in the loop by cutting a strip of aluminum foil of the desired width. Not the foil that is use to cover food, but more like the one for a pizza. I used the drill bit again.

The steel thingy was made from a band of the same aluminum foil, slightly longer than the perimeter of the surface to wrap. I then used my drill index, again Big Smile [:D], to bring it to the best tight fit as possible. The rest is just a matter of sliding it into place, rolling it in on itself and shape it to the desired form.

I will probably go in the techniques section and start a tread to share the knowledge Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 5, 2007 7:59 PM

Looking sharp Jean MichelThumbs Up [tup]

What camo pattern are you going for? 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, January 5, 2007 7:39 PM
Jean, your Panzerjaeger is going to be the bomb! Awesome stuff.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by treadwell on Friday, January 5, 2007 7:11 PM
absolutely top notch, Jean!!!Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]-- a very clean and meticulous looking buildApprove [^]-- the tow cable looks awsome!!  could you elaborate on how you made it or tell me what issue you had your cable details published in??-- excellent work dude!!-- thanks --- treadTongue [:P]

   

 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, January 5, 2007 9:43 AM

Ok, it's now time for a last update before masking and painting Smile [:)]

I added the Notek light wire, gun craddle lock nuts, exhaust holder, the antenna is made but will be glued after masking (boy did I learnt that the hard way Shock [:O]) , rear chain for the pintle and the gas mask containers are cleanned.

In this picture you can see the tarp anchor points on the shield's top. Also of interrest, my scratchbuild towing cable Cool [8D]

Here's a 2 more pics of the cable. Really hard to get a close up picture.

 

I sent a reader's tip to the magazine a couple months ago on how to build one. In this case though, I couldn't use the kit's ends as they were innacurates (too short). So I had to scratchbuild them with aluminum foil and the ring is made of solder.  (I am to cheap to buy a aftermarket towing cableWink [;)]) Tell me what you think about it.

All there is left to do is a bit of scribbing on the plastic gun shield and masking.  The end is coming soon. Smile [:)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Gun Tech on Friday, December 29, 2006 1:05 PM
 Duke Maddog wrote:

Prometheum, that is incredible! Awesome work on the wash and weathering. I also like the added touch of a 'five o'clock shadow' on the crew! That is great!

Gee, I thought you were horrible at painting too, I sure don't see it in these pics!

Love that 5 o clock effect

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Friday, December 29, 2006 12:50 PM

Prometheum, that is incredible! Awesome work on the wash and weathering. I also like the added touch of a 'five o'clock shadow' on the crew! That is great!

Gee, I thought you were horrible at painting too, I sure don't see it in these pics!

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:05 PM
Tigerman, I fixed it now... all pics accounted for.  I promise it's not as shiny as it looks in the pics either... it was a really overcast day so i had to over-light it to get good pics...
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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:45 PM
I told you Ben that you'd finish before me. Looks really slick. I like your camo and weathering. Job well done. I can't see the other pics though, just the first.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:40 PM

Alright, finally done making excuses:  here's my Marder IIIH in all its..er.... 'glory'

 

 

The hosting site (voidgamers.com) seems to be on the fritz right now, but in a little while I assume the images will be working... if not, I'll find somewhere else to stash them...

Ben 

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:18 PM

Ditto on that. I got the right side tracks on and boy were they a pain in the butt. Both sides were to short. So I had had to improvise. I had more of one type of track than the other. but with everything like the cab on yu can't tell unless your looking.

Secondly I've been dry fitting and and i discovered that there is going to be a huge gap between the cab and the back were the missiles are stored. oh well it's Italeri right?

-Josiah

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:23 PM

 ygmodeler4 wrote:
Wow Jean-Michel that is awesome. Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]   Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanks buddy, I really appreciate  Smile [:)]      I hope to not screw up on the paint job Wink [;)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:19 PM
Wow Jean-Michel that is awesome. Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]   Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

-Josiah

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:14 PM
Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] Thanks a lot Tread!  Smile [:)] Coming from the armor interior dude, it's a huge compliment Cool [8D]Big Smile [:D]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 7:36 PM
wow wow wow!!! what an absolute beauty!!!Big Smile [:D]Approve [^] ---THE FINE DETAIL AND P.E. ARE OUTSTANDING!!-- the interior of the fighting compartment is awsome!! man this thing is really sweet!!-- super job so far dude!! --i am gonna check back on this thread more often!!--Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]--- treadBig Smile [:D]-- p.s. --- you are no slouch in the photo department eitherSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

   

 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:29 PM
Thanks Duke. The upper hull is glued as the fit required a lot of work for filling in the gaps. Interesting though, I might try to apply it to a newer Dragon kit with a better fit.   I still gottime to think about it.    And no camo,   just german grey Wink [;)]    I'll depict a vehicle in France.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:21 PM

Don't feel bad Jean-Michel. I've been building small armor for 30+ years and I've never airbrushed on a camo pattern to any tank, except to add brown spots to a KV I once to see if I could do it.

 

As for protecting your interior, try leaving the top hull unglued form the lower hull. Then, when you have all the details on it, spray on your camo pattern and then seal it when it's dry. Then, all you have to do is glue it to the top of the vehicle. Any sandiong of joints or anything that needs doing can be hidden with weathering.

 

If you have already glued the top to the bottom hull, then I'd suggest taking paper towels and cutting/tearing thm to a size that you could stuff in the hatches and openings until they are snug and no gaps are in the openings you are stuffing. Do this carefully so as to not damage anything inside. Then you can airbrush the tank and when it's dry, remove the paper towels.

 

Hope this helps. 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:06 PM

Smile [:)] Thanks Eric and Scott! I really wish my painting skills are up to the challenge Wink [;)]  I spent 2 years getting better at building, but did not airbrushed until a few months ago. That will be my second one.

I still need to find a way to mask and protect my interior....... Question [?]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:08 PM
Jean-Michel, your PanzerJaeger looks outstanding!  Cool [8D]Wow!! [wow]  I can't wait to see the finished results!  That's a stunner!  Smile [:)]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:50 PM
Jean, the Panzerjager is really coming along. I love all the PE you've applied to it. It's gonna look great when finished.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:22 PM

Ok, here's the build so far. The gun and the shield are not glued yet.

I plan to make a tarp to go over those ugly old Tamiya Jerry Cans, to hide them a bit, just showing the green newer one. A second one will be folded on the rear deck. I replaced all the tool handles, as they looked really horrible. Still missing a little bunch of details....... Notek light wire, radio antenna, exhaust bracket, chain on the rear pintle, tow cable, gun craddle lock nut, gas mask containers and tarp anchor points on the shield. The suspension bar on the road wheels is left out for painting purpose.  I'm trying to go for a busy look with a max of gear. The gun sight came from the Marder IIIM that I busted up a last yearTongue [:P]

Tell me what you think guys before I reach the painting stage Smile [:)]

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:59 PM

 espins1 wrote:
Progress is moving forward again.  I'm building the Italeri Panther Ausf A (old kit, I've had it for about 10 years).  A question for our Panther experts out there.  Pretty much every picture I've seen of a Panther is with the driver's vision thingy on the front hull open i.e. raised.  Would they have only closed it under fire and if they weren't moving? 

I'd think it would be open only during movement, which would be movements during combat as well.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Gun Tech on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:57 AM

 espins1 wrote:
Progress is moving forward again.  I'm building the Italeri Panther Ausf A (old kit, I've had it for about 10 years).  A question for our Panther experts out there.  Pretty much every picture I've seen of a Panther is with the driver's vision thingy on the front hull open i.e. raised.  Would they have only closed it under fire and if they weren't moving? 

Yes, I have seen pics of it closed on stationnary vehicle.......  As for combat situation, I'll have to check a bit deeper in my references.

Jean-Michel    "Arte et Marte"

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:51 AM
Progress is moving forward again.  I'm building the Italeri Panther Ausf A (old kit, I've had it for about 10 years).  A question for our Panther experts out there.  Pretty much every picture I've seen of a Panther is with the driver's vision thingy on the front hull open i.e. raised.  Would they have only closed it under fire and if they weren't moving? 

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by m1garand on Monday, December 25, 2006 11:23 PM
I got less than 3 weeks to build mine.  I've been lazy.....
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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, December 25, 2006 11:08 PM
Good news I got the left side done! Im surprised b/c I usually stink at tracks unless it's vinyl. This is the first succesful time. Unfortunately they are on the unpainted roadwheels which are attached to the unpainted model.Black Eye [B)]Boohoo [BH]

-Josiah

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Monday, December 25, 2006 7:00 PM
Good news I'm almost ready to paint. I need to assemble the tracks. Which is probably going to take awhile. I'm guessing it's gonna be easier than indies but it'll still be a pain in the butt.

-Josiah

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, December 25, 2006 6:10 PM

 rudedog wrote:
Tigerman,Since you put this GB together,would you be kind enough to explain," What the heck is a group build ? "I've seen them put together on this site,but never seen the results.I assume there's no prize,just pride.Is there someone judging the finishers ?And what are the start & stop dates.What do you do when your done ? I''ve always wanted to join one,,But I don't know these que.'s      Thank you  Tigerman & any who may toss in their 2 cents.   ~~~rudedog~~~

Rudedog, GB's are fun, but are always very different. I found that this one inspired many first-time forum members to use this as their first GB and to build Italeri kits. I feel lucky in that regard.

GB's differ based on whatever the creator decides the so-called rules are. I like to think of them as guidelines only. You pick a subject such as Italeri which is broader than say a Tiger I GB, which limits your subject. The start dates and end dates are your guidelines and usually it must be an unstarted kit. There are no prizes (though that might be fun for the future) and it's really all about the comradery and the motivation that the GB gives you in hopes of finishing a build. Most tend to get members pumped up, bu in the end, a handful actually finish their builds, though some GB's are more effective then others in that regard. Give it a shot!

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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