FINISHED PICS! AMT's old McLaren M16 C/D "Johhny Rutherford"

Looks great so far!!! Excellent job on saving those old decals!

I, myself, am trying to find a kit of the McLaren M3B (Designation M1C in Europe). My friend, former boss, and the man who introduced me to my career drove one in the Can-Am series in the 70's.

Any Can-Am guys out there, his car was #72, Black with Gold. One of the few completely independent drivers in the series. 

Yup, I agree - that's a good looking job so far.  Almost inspirational enough to get me to fetch one of those kits out of my stash and take a stab at it.  But I know the body is a blob that doog has done a tremendous amount of work on.

And speaking of less-than-sharply detailed McLarens, I also have a McLaren M1B Can Am body shell waiting for a lot of work.  It is from Resilient Resins, (http://www.resilientresins.com/home.cfm).  Just a body shell with two vacuform windshields.  I'm hoping to use an AMT/MPC Howmet turbine roadster for a donor.  Or maybe the AMT Hardcaslte & McCormick "Coyote", which was actually a McLaren M6GT, which AMT trashed from the old MPC Ford GT Mk IV kit.  There is still donor potential left.

For a 1974 vintage M1C, you'll need to add wheel bulges, a bigger spoiler, and who knows what else.  But I think it's a more realistic starting point than to hope to find the old AMT kit from 1966.  I assume you're speaking of Jeff Jones?  I culdn't find any photos of his car, although that black and gold #72 sounds familiar - I don't know why. 

 Good luck,
Rick

Thanks for commenting, Steve and RIck, and for the 's!!!

I can't even believe I'm building this kit--it's so far outside of what I'm used to! I have a new respect for Auto builders however--these old kits require a ton of patience and diligent attention to flaws and error correction.

Vacuuform?! Wow, man! THAT'S a serious challenge!

Well, here it is! FINISHED! (whew!) This little baby was a MOST difficult build! But, as I said-this is a great memory come-to-life, in many different aspects! Hey Dad--I built this as a tribute to you! Thanks for introducing me to modeling as a young turd!!

I changed the layout of the engine a bit--it just didn't look acurate compared to the first picture there I posted--the exhaust was plainly on the wrong side according to the kit direction.

The model here is not polished yet or waxed here, but the finish seems to have really come out well for Tamiya Gloss acrylics!

Here's the "old" engine configuration:

...and the changed parts--you can see now that the exhaust is on the "right" side.

And the finished kit:

A nice shine!.....

"Lonestar J.R." rides again!

Well, on to finishing the SuperBee now....then back to my more-familiar medium, Armor, for a while...

Questions and comments always well-appreciated!

 Gee, this is probably a "tankish" thing to say (but meant to help). I think it would improve alot to add a subtle wash to accentuate the panel lines. You can see here how obvious they are....

Anyway doog, I can appreciate the effort and frustration required to get it to turn out so well. 

You know what, Steve/Mike/Wayne (LOL! ) you're probably right--I'lll bet that would improve the look. I actually washed the suspension and motor, and some inside the intake cowls too. 

Hmmm....how to do it without ruining it?...I'm afraid that the wash would get around all those litle bolts there near the cockpit base, and then that would be hell to clean up! You know, actually, I've seen guys build this so you could take that cockpit cowling off--I should have done that, but didn't think of it in time! Then you'd be able to see the demarcation lines.

I'm gonna mull it over...

Thanks for commenting, Steve!

the doog wrote:

Hmmm....how to do it without ruining it?...I'm afraid that the wash would get around all those litle bolts there near the cockpit base, and then that would be hell to clean up!  I'm gonna mull it over... Thanks for commenting, Steve!

 Build a dam.

A dam "what", you ask ??? 

Well, something along these lines maybe.

 Depending on the medium you last used (this is all before the last glosscoat and the waxing is done) ..... to prevent the wash from going where you don't want it; say it's acrylic, so use a medium (experiment first) such as modeling clay or "maybe" pla-doh, or a buildup of a liquid masking agent .... or something that won't react to an oil wash. Don't use blutac or the like with an oil wash or you'll have a 'ell of a mess.

 Use the medium to block the flow and be sure to add the wash in increments being aware of gravity, so as not to overflow the "dam" so to speak. Whatever you use, also make sure it won't lift or stain the paint. You know the wash drill so this is the idea as to how to work it using a blocking technique.

 After the washing is complete then lock it up with a glosscoat and wax away....... 

So, am I making sense here? Always glad to help.

                                        Disastermaster 

Thanks, Steve--makes perfect sense!

I just don't know if I have the gumption to risk it.......!

I'm itching to start that Revell Jagdpanzer Kanone WIP blog, so I might just call this one "finished". But if I get up the nerve to attempt it, at least I know how now! 

Thanks for the hints and tips! (I wouldn't have thought of that!?)

HI Very Nice and a great job. That's not a easy kit to build.

Mckay

Why, thank you for the kind compliment, McKay!

I was surprised after posting this on a couple sites that this kit really does have a reputation as a really tricky build--it actually was, to be sure. I'm pleased that I had no major issues in finishing it.

the doog wrote:

Why, thank you for the kind compliment, McKay! I was surprised after posting this on a couple sites that this kit really does have a reputation as a really tricky build--it actually was, to be sure. I'm pleased that I had no major issues in finishing it.

I thank it's one of those kits that you have to take your time and test fit every part so you can adjust it if nessery. Looks great

Mckay

Mckay wrote:

the doog wrote: Why, thank you for the kind compliment, McKay! I was surprised after posting this on a couple sites that this kit really does have a reputation as a really tricky build--it actually was, to be sure. I'm pleased that I had no major issues in finishing it. I thank it's one of those kits that you have to take your time and test fit every part so you can adjust it if nessery. Looks great Mckay

Thanks again!

Surface_Line wrote:

For a 1974 vintage M1C, you'll need to add wheel bulges, a bigger spoiler, and who knows what else.  But I think it's a more realistic starting point than to hope to find the old AMT kit from 1966.  I assume you're speaking of Jeff Jones?  I culdn't find any photos of his car, although that black and gold #72 sounds familiar - I don't know why.   Good luck, Rick

I am absolutely speaking of Jeff Jones! If you figure out why you know the car or the name, let me know. I became friends with him (and worked for him for a couple of years). Amazing guy, great stories. He has been racing since the early fifties, and is still racing today pushint 70! If you have ever seen the "Quarter Car", a 33 Ford 5 window (cut down to a 3 window) on the Supermodified Circuit (car # is 1/4), Jeff occasionally drives that car.

He was also involved in the hellish wreck at Road Atlanta in 1984. So severe that only 2 drivers continued in the sport afterwards, Jeff and Don Sak. Lots of bad injuries, but fortunately, no one was killed. If you EVER find pictures of that wreck, let me know. I have only ever seen three, as the track goons went around and took everyones film. At the time, Jef was driving the #13 Monza in the Trans Am series.

Ok, enough rambling...sorry for the sidetrack.

Nice work!    Truly a legend from Indy. 

One question, did you run the MicroScale Liquid Decal Film through the airbrush?

Panther F wrote:

Nice work!    Truly a legend from Indy.  One question, did you run the MicroScale Liquid Decal Film through the airbrush?

Thanks for the compliment! Johhny R. was "the man"!

I think I know where that car is setting at right now. If it is, and the next time I'm over there I'll shoot a dozen or so pictures of it for you.

gary

squeakie wrote:

I think I know where that car is setting at right now. If it is, and the next time I'm over there I'll shoot a dozen or so pictures of it for you. gary

I would sincerely appreciate that! Some detail of the engine would be really nice! I might even be tempted to build a second super-detailed version!

the doog wrote:

squeakie wrote: I think I know where that car is setting at right now. If it is, and the next time I'm over there I'll shoot a dozen or so pictures of it for you. gary Oh that would be AWESOME, Gary! I would sincerely appreciate that! Some detail of the engine would be really nice! I might even be tempted to build a second super-detailed version!

   if your ever in Indy, then take the tour of the Indy 500 Museum in Speedway Indiana (about six or seven minutes west of downtown Indianapolis. It's something to see! And race cars are not the only thing there. They have a huge collection of classic automobiles that go back a hundred years. And downstairs in the basement is double what's upstairs for the viewing public!

    But what I'd like to see is all those ME109 V12's that are still in the shipping crates (brand new engines at that) that Tony Hulman picked up in Europe right after the war. There was a two car garage stuffed with them.

    I'll go over there one afternoon this fall. But it's gotta wait till after I head south to the Patton Museum and Wright Patterson again. I need StugIII pics real bad.

gary

What kinda StuG !!! pics ya looking for Gary?

Anything specific?

I got some I might be able to help ya with?

the doog wrote:

What kinda StuG !!! pics ya looking for Gary? Anything specific? I got some I might be able to help ya with?

I have three Dragon StugIII kits (one with the 105mm howitzer), and a couple Tamayia kits as well. One of these being an StugIIIb series. What I'm after mostly is tracks and running gear, plus a few pics of the zimerit  patterns. The Patton Museum's StugIII has some of the original paint left on it as well as zimerit. Anyway the one I'm after will be an StugIIIG, and they have one. I'm also hopeing they will finally put our old M-46 on display! This tank has never seen rain or snow, and has maybe three or four miles on it altogether!

    Also want to shoot a good set of pictures of an M-1 tank with the 105mm gun, and the XM-1 they have down there (both for distant future builds). I'm thinking about doing the M-1 in the then experimental Artic camo.

    They've also got a very nice Kettengrad that I may just force my self to shoot a few dozen pictures of (been wanting to build one of the 1/9 scale ones for years). I'll probably go thru six gig of memory by the time it's done, and two battery packs if not a third one (the flash eats them up unless I set the ISO at 2400). If you happen to need pics of something between now and when I go speak up!

    Dayton Ohio has a really nice PV-1 Ventura as well as an OV-10 that I must get better pictures of. I'll also do the B-26 and the A-20 they have on display. It's easy to go thru ten gig of memory in that place along with three battery packs (kinda dark in there).

    I have access to a few tracks near where I live, and have shot many pics of them in the past. Plus a nice 8" towed howitzer as well as the last 8" SP. They have a lot of WWII and Korean war stuff as well as some cold war stuff (even an Honest John truck and rocket launcher). If you need something give me a hollar as I may have pics already.

gary

Nice job on JR's Indy Offy McClaren, She's a winner!

Isn't it funny how a model with only 50 parts can give us more trouble than one with 150 or 250 and PE? 

Keep up the good work. 

Dr. Faust wrote:

Nice job on JR's Indy Offy McClaren, She's a winner! Isn't it funny how a model with only 50 parts can give us more trouble than one with 150 or 250 and PE?  Keep up the good work.

These old car models I've been working on are definitely a challenge!I realize how spoiled I'd got with the high-tech armor kits!

Gary, if you pick up any reference book on StuGs--Squadron's series comes to mind as a cheap, easy-to-get example--you can get all the zimm pics you need!

You'll have a hearder time getting zimmerit shots from museum pieces, as some of them don't have it.

There are also tons of StuG photos on the net, from museums or from actual war. Spend some "google" time, and you'll have all you need!

the doog wrote:

Gary, if you pick up any reference book on StuGs--Squadron's series comes to mind as a cheap, easy-to-get example--you can get all the zimm pics you need! You'll have a hearder time getting zimmerit shots from museum pieces, as some of them don't have it. There are also tons of StuG photos on the net, from museums or from actual war. Spend some "google" time, and you'll have all you need!

the StugIII at the Patton Museum still has some Zimmerit on it, and a camo paint scheme in the rear quarter, I'll be shooting for a good color match on the camo, as well as the layout for the brackets and stowage. That same museum has a Russian T-72 right outta Iraq and a T-34/85 from the Korean War. If I get the color temp right the colors will come out very accurately if not near perfect.

    I'll probably do the IMS museum late this fall (maybe November when my grandsons are up for a visit). When I get done with that one I'll burn you a DVD. The car I'd like to see is the one of Jimmy Clark's (I don't know which one it is, but they have one in the basement).

gary

Gary, when I went to Fort Knox in the late 80's, I contacted the muesum and got permission to go and crawl all over that StuG, in and out, and photograph the whole thing! Are we talking about the saemStuG though?--I don't remember any zimm on it here?

Here's some photos from my old album on it--it was really cool to see! The red primer on it is really "red"!

the doog wrote:

Gary, when I went to Fort Knox in the late 80's, I contacted the muesum and got permission to go and crawl all over that StuG, in and out, and photograph the whole thing! Are we talking about the saemStuG though?--I don't remember any zimm on it here? Here's some photos from my old album on it--it was really cool to see! The red primer on it is really "red"!

that's a neat place to visit, and it's about two hours from my front door, and a little over an hour from the Corvette museum in Bowlingreen. Seems to me that the remaining Zimmerit is on the hull sides just below the track return rollers. Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but something down there still has zimmerit on it (Panther?) They've also got a really nice 88 (much better than the one at Ft. Sill).

    This website needs to create a photo gallery just for references alone.

gary