The first aid pouch goes on the upper left strap of the LBE.  You can see a few standard LBE load-outs below.

One canteen on right hip.

With an e-tool pouch opposite the canteen on the other (left) hip.

Or with two canteens, first aid pouch still on the left strap.

Hello Gino!

Thanks a lot for the info!

How about when the PASGT vest (kevlar) is also worn?

I don't think it would be carried under the kevlar or would it?

Thanks in advance for the info and have a nice day

Paweł

Pawel

Hello Gino!

Thanks a lot for the info!

How about when the PASGT vest (kevlar) is also worn?

I don't think it would be carried under the kevlar or would it?

Thanks in advance for the info and have a nice day

Paweł

 

No, LBE is worn over the vest. The shoulder sections have those snaps the can be unsnapped, the suspenders placed under those, then resnapped so that the LBE and vest become a single unit donned or removed together. Some guys will attach their protective mask carrier to that as well with a snap link and the carrier pouch straps.

Looking at the figure, he does not appear to have an LBE on at all.  I don't see any evidence of a pistol belt either.  The rest of his gear is just hanging there.  It is not clear how he is carrying the canteen, holster, nor the helmet.  I guess it is more "Verlinden Magic".

The first aid pouch could be connected to the strip on the left side of the vest, like the flashlight is on the right.

Hello!

In defence of good ole' Francois, the figure seems to have something like the pistol belt. I think this picture shows it best:

From what I read it is possible to wear the belt without the suspenders, right?

What Stik says would make the most sense, of course - a vest/LBE unit. If I noticed this earlier, I might even be tempted to make a conversion!

And in the meantime I'm working on the woodland pattern for the vest.

Thanks again for your great comments and have a nice day

Paweł

I guess he does have a pistol belt.  It can be worn w/out the suspenders, but isn't as comfortable since it has to be worn tighter around the waist to keep it up.  The canteen isn't right though.  The canteen connects to the belt just above the midpoint, not from the cap as the figure has it due to the belt being under the vest.  No idea how the helmet is hanging there, unless it is over another canteen?

Pistol belt w/canteens.  Note the connection point.

The M12 holster attaches the same way, so not sure how it is hanging on either.

AHHHGGGGGGHHHHHHH  that's why I like smaller figures- you can't see as clearly if they got the detail right or wrong!!!!!!! 

All joking aside VERY good advice you're getting here. And an education here for me. 

Yes, lots of information in this thread on late Cold War era “battle rattle” and uniforms. Of course there is far more unsaid at this point. 

Hello!

Thanks again for your great comments!

Gamera - no sweat, I was expecting something like that - after all this is a Verlinden fig, they just regularily confront you with certain challenges!

Gino, Stik - of course it's not nice to have something wrong here, but thanks to your great input I will know to move things at least a little in the right direction - in this case I understand I have to move the pistol holster and the canteen as far up as I can to suggest they are hanging on the belt "by their midpoint", so to say. And the pics will help me get the color of the nylon right. And I think I will hang the dressing on the front of the vest.

So how about that helmet - is there any popular method of storing the "Fritz" when the cap is worn?

And in the moment I'm finishing painting the woodland pattern on the vest. Hope to post pictures soon!

Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

If you don’t want to hold your helmet in your hand, and have to have it along while not wearing the thing on your head, you can simply loop the snapped chinstrap over a canteen worn on the LBE/Pistol Belt.

Hello!

Stik - thanks a lot! So the way I see it I'll probably have to sculpt a second canteen (or the lower portion of it) to show under the helmet - and it also needs to sit higher on the belt.

In the meantime I was able to take daytime shots of the PASGT vest. Here they are:

As you can see I have already painted the gloves, too. I'm just going to fix a few things I caught just when the photos were done and I'm slowly contemplating fixing the arms to the chest. I have also tried to paint up the US flag the way Capn suggested:

Now its also hight time to finish the boots at last, I need to do some assemblying here!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

That’s coming along nicely Pawel. I’m looking forward to your next update.

HeavyArty

One canteen on right hip.

Marines typically carry two canteens.

This has changed with the widespread use of camelbaks.

François might be forgiven, the Belgies were still using M-1910 variant hook for their LBE into the 80s.  Those hooks connect things at the bottom of the belt, and often at the top of the carried "thing."  They can then bounce about.

The US adopted the slide keeper in 1956, which holds those items securely to the belt, and right at their centers.

Our CPT here could be using the extending strap on the UM-84 holster, which will get it neatly (if not obviously, the extension strap is narrower than the holster) under the PASGT vest. 
[Bianchi also made a drop-leg extension, which gets the holster down to the top of the thigh pocket, and has a thigh strap to prevent flopping.  I know of tankers who rigged that way, so as to not have the vest over a shest holster.]

If the CPT is a Company Commander (and especially if a Battalion XO) that dressing pouch is likely in the front pocket of the vest.  Maybe.  Perhaps.

Going around SWA without a canteen of water does not sound smart, but given the sculpt, I don't know how to fix it without a Farby.  (Going to wager an IRL CPT would have bottled water in the other vest pocket.)

Hello everybody!

Stik - thanks a lot!

Cap'n  - again, lots of good info! Thank you very much! Like I wrote, I'll sculpt something like a second canteen to hang the helmet on. And I think I have an idea how to put the first one so that it looks better.

It was obvious for me, that the good old Francois was thinking about 1910 style gear with hooks hanging from the belt - just didn't take enough time to research it right - and he didn't have friends around here like I do!

I have also checked out that extender strap - I have to say that it looks really good, I'll think about modelling it this way.

But as for the dressing pouch - I think I'll put it on the vest front, opposite the flashlight.

Thanks again for your great comments and have a nice day

Paweł

Hello!

I think I'm done with the boots. I made the ankle reinforcement straps from a tea bag - tried to just paint them on first, but that didn't look good. Here's what the boots look like now - and I'll try to get better shots when I have some daylight available:

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

Paweł

See!

 We're not always polishing these things. Looks real to me.

Pawel: The uniform, vest, boots- they all look pretty  good to me... 

Just had a thought (yeah, I know, dangerous stuff).  Sea Services typically only used the Carrier, Field Dressing as a compass pouch*

Medical stuff was issued in the Carrier, First Aid, Individual:

Back view:

Back view shows the thing that joggled my mind--that center webbing is actually a doubled Velcro strap, which could be slid over the shoulder-pad strap on the PASGT vest.

The pouch is thin nylon with a vinyl/pvc "squishy" plastic box inside.  Dimensionally, it's about a field dressing pouch wide and deep (field dressing laid flat) and about a filed dressing lngth tall.  (Ok, checked, 75 x 127 x 75mm)

A Carrier, Field Dressing or Compass, has a single vertical "alice" clip, so it would ride sideways (and very floppy) on that shoulder strap

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*Might be apt, for a Marine CPT, to have a bit of paracord tied off to one of the shoulder pad straps and then vanishing into one of the pockets.  This to repersent the "dummy cord" to the compass he's likely to be carrying.  Adding a rectangular lump in the pocket to repersent the compass is down to you.

Hello everybody!

TB, Gamera - thanks a lot for your kind words!

Capn - you're right about thinking, that can get you in a lot of trouble. Almost in as much trouble as not thinking at all!

Now thanks a lot for the great info here. As I'm about to sculpt the second canteen anyhow, I think I'll do the first aid carrier as well!

I tried to google it - surprisingly few examples to find on the web. One auction portal lists the dimensions as 150 x 135 x 60 mm - what would you say to that, Capn?

Now I have to locate my old pack of Milliput so as not to start a new one...

Thanks again for your great comments and have a nice day!

Paweł

Hi Pawel. I've been watching this thread with interest. Great work mate on a complex subject!

Hello!

Dodgy - thanks a lot for your kind words!

And I have taken the words of CapnMac to my heart and some time ago I had some Milliput mixed, so I took this opportunity to use it up and I have sculpted something like this:

Like the photo shows, it still needs work, so I sanded and scribed it a litle bit, then primed and painted up it looks like this:

I have also painted up the gas mask carrier. I tried out the paint by Games Workshop called "contrast" - you basically paint your part light gray and then put contrast on top of that and it naturally makes highlights on the protrusions of the part and shadows in the recesses . Here's what it looks like after just two coats:

Now this gas mask carrier constitutes a kind of a jig that aligns the body of the figure with the pants. And the plan is to do some assembly next. But it looks like I will have to add some straps the good ole' Francois forgot. And that cord for compass the CapnMac mentioned.

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

Paweł

That IFAK (Individual First Aid Kit; the abbrevieation is a term-of-art) looks good.

The carrier is a thin nylon, so it 'sucks down' and holds the hard edges of the plastic insert.

Quoted sizes are all over the map, the ones I've found are no bigger than 3x5x3 inches.

Taking a tape measure to the one on my "war belt" I get 2.875"w x 4.625" tall (box portion, with a 1/2" tab at the bottom) x 2.625" thick.
The one on my LBE is 3" wide x 4.75 (+ 1/2") x 3" deep (there's an additional dressing mashed inbetween the box and the carrier).

Paint schemes are spot on.

Thanks a lot for your great help Capn!

I'd like to clarify one thing. It's not be so easy to measure a soft nylon bag, but all the dimensions you state would lead to a 5 inch tall box with a square, 3x3 inch cross section - while the photos show something that looks to me like it's wider than it's deep - I mean the cross section is more an elongated restangle than a square, and from the photos I'd expect something that is about as wide as it is high.

I started with the dimensions I found on an internet auction of the real thing - 150x135x60mm and scaled it down 1/16, and now when I measure the part it's about 9mm wide, 10mm high and about 5mm deep.

Looks like it might be a little too big - I'll take one more shot of it on the PASGT vest and you can tell me it it's way off... if it is, I'll sculpt it again!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

Awsome work mate!

Hello!

Dodgy - thanks a lot for your kind words!

Yesterday I've found my man up pills :-) and I did some assemblying:

I have used black milliput to join the pieces together, as the mating surfaces didn't mate this perfecly so as to take CA for the job, plus I wanted to have some freedom of movement first to try to make the fig stand on its own - especially important in case of the boots.

While the milliput was still soft I decided to try to do the first aid carrier once again, a little closer to scale this time. I have also tried to show the helmet being hung on a second canteen, and I have also tried to sculpt a pistol clip pouch. You can see the initial first aid carrier on the left in the photo:

I decided I'll try to show the pistol hung from the belt on an extension strap. So now I have to add some missing straps and sand and paint the gear. Let's see...

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

Paweł

I'm very much looking forward to seeing the finished product Pawel. keep up the good work!.

Hello!

Dodgy - thanks a lot for your kind words! I think most of the work is already done, but there are a few important details left yet.

And I have added the missing rear strap for the gas mask bag - made it out of metal taken from an old toothpaste tube. I have also glued one canteen - had to cut out some chunks from the already painted fig to make the canteen sit about right. That was a tricky operation... If I knew from the start about the "Verlindenitis" here", I'd probably start with all the cutting and fitting and start painting after all the cutting was done... But I didn't know, so it has to be done now. And here's how it turned out:

Now the hard part - fitting the pistol on an extension strap, let's see how this turns out.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

Looking good.  The strap and canteen placement came out pretty well.

Pawel!

I have heard that something and sombody will cause some to lose it! Really? Did you lose his head and arms or what? LOL.LOL. Just kidding! What you have done so far shows you to have as many multiple skillsets as I. I am enjoying this!

 I thought seperate instrument Decals( My sore Spot) were not my thing. I have done the TreibFlugel in 1/35 now and it was actually fun. But, those little dots in the Camo, I dunno, My friend. Now in the old days it was just shades of badly worn Green. Or in the case of a sailor on a ship at sea, faded Blue Shirt and Blue Jeans, ( Loose Fitting).

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

Gino - Thanks a lot! Good to know im heading the right direction!

TB - nah, I didn't lose anything - just don't want parts to get in the way...

As for the shades of green - I have a project like this waiting in the box, it's a 40mm grenade launcher (thumper) gunner - but that's future.

And as for the dots - didn't the Germans have more of them back in the forties? Some funky camo pattern, too!

Now I'm pretty glad, because I have completed something I was kinda afraid of... The pistol! As I wrote it required some surgery on already painted parts - making a potential error costly... Here's my hacking together with an extension strap made out of 0,5mm styrene:

The hip strap is made as before, from an old toothpaste tube. You can also see the holster (kit part) and the clip pouch that I sculpted.

I have also made the plastic buckle out of styrene sheet and after painting everything up and glueing the Captain looks like this:

Now there's the helmet with my canteen-like chunk underneath - should be easy in comparison! Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł