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120mm USMC Captain Desert Storm - Verlinden - DONE!!! Page 4

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, March 11, 2021 5:29 PM

Hello everybody! Thanks a lot for your comments!

Carlos - thank you for your help, without it I wouldn't know how to do the mods right!

Dodgy, Tiger II - Thanls a lot for your kind words, they mean a lot to me!

Gil - I'm glad you could use my WIP - I think there are not enough of them these days, so I try to post some more!

TB - Thanks for the explanation... Do you mean the water is supposed to be boiled in order to make it drinkable?

Thanks again and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, March 9, 2021 6:06 PM

Hey Pawel;

 I noticed no one answered your question about the " Boil Water " order. When our water systems lose pressure like many did during that time it is a mandatory thing from the State health department and the local water providers. When Pressure get low then our water gets kind of " Buggy" in part.

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Posted by Back to the bench on Monday, March 8, 2021 7:23 PM

Amazing work Pawel thank you for posting all of the steps. I really did learn a lot watching this project.

Gil

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Posted by TigerII on Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:26 PM

Very nicely done Pawel. I guess the only thing to say to that figure is "Semper Fi!"

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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Posted by Dodgy on Monday, February 22, 2021 6:37 PM

Top job Pawel! You should be very proud of this. All those adjustments and a very challenging paint job. well done mate!!

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, February 22, 2021 5:55 PM

Nice finish on him Pawel. He sure looks the part now. And your modifications to the figure improved him considerably.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, February 22, 2021 4:53 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your kind words! I'm glad you like my work.

knox - ever planning to visit Poland or Europe, for that matter?

TB - faces are not so easy to do, you know... Yeah, I'll write you a PM right away.

Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, February 22, 2021 9:38 AM

Hi Pawel!

     Well, except for the slightly Muddled appearance of his facial features, You've got a winner there! Plus I think this has been fun. You wanna guide me through a Figure? I think I will pick a fully geared up W.W. two fighter Pilot. NAH, I wouldn't do that to you. Oh, message me. I have a good tip for 1/250 Stairs on paper ships.

     Pawel, I like that you got his Haircut really " High and Tight". Since serving in two services( Lateral Transfer) I have kept my hair that way. You'd be surprised how many Barbers DON'T know what High and Tight Means!

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:21 PM

He came out fantastic Pawel! Smashing job!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by knox on Sunday, February 21, 2021 6:41 PM

Have mercy- that turned out well!! You did a truly great job. The only thing that would make it better,  would be to see it in person.  

                 knox 

 

 

 

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:56 PM

Looks great

Thanks,

John

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:53 PM

The figure came out really nicely.  Good job on it.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:39 PM

Hello!

That was a quick reply! Good to know you're doing all right and thanks a lot for your kind words! A little offtopic - can you explain to me the "water boil orders"?

Thanks a lot for your great help and have a nice, sunny day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:26 PM

And, that figure came out excellently.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:24 PM

Pawel
By the way - how are you taking the cold weather? I hope you are warm and safe!

Well, here at 1415 CST (2015 UTC) on Sunday, 21FEB21, here about 5km from DFW airport, it's 66ºF (normal high for today being 61ºF).

So, all traces of snow have vanished, even in the deep shade.  Most roads are dry in the full sunshine.

Almost unearthly to have no evidence of the 100-year storm which crippled us for a week.  Beyond water boil orders and dug up yards and the like.

Went without power for 33 hours at my house--12 hours and 21 hours with a 4 hour gap.  Better than many of my neighbors (houses across the street both had water damage from burst pipes).  Slowly, all those in my electronic circle have checked in as their power has been restored.

The next hurdle will be in utility billing.  WiFi meters do not "like" being off for extended periods of time.  TThere are already reports of people with (spurious) utility bills in the high four digit range.

We press on, because that's what we do.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:23 PM

So!

After taking a lot of great advice and reference material, taking away as much verlindenitis as I could and lots of fun painting - here it is:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

My special thanks go to Mark, Gino, Carlos and Gary - that build wouldn be as much fun without you! Naturally now I'm looking forward to comments...

Thanks a lot for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 21, 2021 2:09 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

Dodgy - thanks a lot, glad you like it!

TB, Capn - thanks a lot for your thoughts here.

Capn - if we had this discussion before I painted all the camo pattern on the torso - who knows... But it's a lot of surgery. I've already had a taste of it while putting the canteens and the pistol on. Almost all the raised detail below any belt/band/gear item has to be chiseled off in order to look natural - that is to say as if the fabric underneath it got compressed by the weight/tension like it should. But I added the dummy cord for the compass, just like you said, please check it out!

By the way - how are you taking the cold weather? I hope you are warm and safe!

And now it's time for the great finale!

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, February 21, 2021 8:20 AM

Hi Pawel;

 If it had been my model I would have TRIED the get him this far at least. There are some figure modelers in the Model Rail Club attached to the Museum,. I would've sought out their help on this though. I am still Very Much a Newbie when it comes to figures.

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Posted by Dodgy on Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:28 PM

Great work Pawel, keep it up. Like the base too.

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:21 PM

Pawel
if I may - what would you do if it was YOUR model? Let's say somebody would give you the parts and ask you to finish this one - what would you do?

I have given that some thought.

I probably would have cobbled up LBE to throw over the vest, in the fashion of the day--basically to match the gear I used as a USN O-3.  So, there would have been a lot of lead foil used, like as not.

Now, had I committed to creating a USMC figure, he would have gotten a handset with abit of wire trailing off to the unseen RTO.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:46 PM

Hi Pawel,Thanks for asking !!

      Well , there's an old saying here in the States."It's colder than a Well Digger's Butt." That's the P.C version. Luckily, I was raised part of my life in New York State, Buffalo to be exact. I lived on and off with grandparents until My Foster parents took over then three more years there.

    So the cold is bearable although my old Body doesn't think so. After all the Boil Water orders from the city and no mail for five days I have made it through. Avoided one fender bender when I was taking my Shut in Friend for groceries. Then another on the way home. I actually didn't get even nervous.

     Still working on the Paper Models, switching from the Treibflugel to the Andrea Doria/Stockholm and back. Do love those " Paper Panzers" even if they flew! But did it really? Who knows? You take care of yourself and Stay warm. I imagine it's cold in Poland right now too!

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, February 20, 2021 2:16 PM

Hello TB!

Thanks a lot for your comment and for your kind words! I can't do a lot of things, but I like to learn new tricks...

Say, how are you managing the terrible things going on in Texas? I hope you're safe and doing all right!

Thanks again ad 'till next time (maybe it will be finished by then!!!)

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:53 AM

Pawel:

 Is there anything you can't do? Looking Good my friend.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:52 AM

In My Time;

 The Marines fastened stuff where it was supposed to go. Except when we actually got in a firefight. The ones who really were concerned in keeping it where it belonged,( whatever it was) was the Navy Corpsmen.

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, February 19, 2021 4:11 PM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comment, Gino! I'm still pondering this one...

In the meantime I have made a base for the Captain here. Took a block of wood (local crafts store, a little more than half a dollar), stained it, and on top I have made a piece of scale tarmac road with a fragment of the centerline - out of a piece of fine black sandpaper. Here's how it looks like:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, February 15, 2021 1:19 PM

I wouldn't put anything on the left side of the vest.  He is already wearing just the pistol belt.  So I doubt he would have anything on his vest.

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, February 15, 2021 11:16 AM

Gino, Capn - thanks a lot for your comments and for your gret help. I'm in a kind of a tough position right now.. That's why I'd like to ask you one more question, if I may - what would you do if it was YOUR model? Let's say somebody would give you the parts and ask you to finish this one - what would you do?

And I have found a nice block of wood for a base here. Now I'm also working on an idea to finish it nicely.

Thanks in advance and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, February 15, 2021 8:19 AM

I agree that he is doing a great job with a less than stellar figure.  He asked my opinion, I have given it.  I have never seen the IFAK on the upper left side pocket/strap.  He can put it there if he wants though, it's his figure.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:09 PM

HeavyArty
Yes, all the pouches, canteens, etc. have the same ALICE clips on them.

I believe Pawel is highlighting that the IFAK has a velcro strap between the slide keeper tunnels, so it could be stuck on vertically.  The dressing/compas pouch would have to flop horizontally (and a Marine CPT is going to dummy cord a compass and stow itin a pocket).

You and I both well know that, IRL, thhis CPT would have LBE to toss on over the PASGT vest, especially given how doctrinal USMC was about wearing armor.  Sadly, no one told François this, or provided the gear to model the sculpt to.

In my case, as an O-3, in '91, my Beachmaster gear was identical to the Marines, I have some personal experience with this stuff. 

But, Pawel is working with what he started with.  And doing one heck of a job turning a sow's ear into a silk purse.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, February 14, 2021 1:24 PM

Yes, all the pouches, canteens, etc. have the same ALICE clips on them.  That is what makes the all part of the ALICE (All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment) system.  As far as I know, the USMC wore it all basically the same as the Army.  

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 14, 2021 1:17 PM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

TB - thanks again for your kind words!

Gino - I've seen that photo before.. The first aid pouch looks pretty big in it - comparable in size to the canteen..

I've found this picture that shows a possibility of putting the pouch on a vertical strap:

Individual First Aid Kit - ALICE

But of course your opinion is important to me.. I understand you would put the smaller individual dressing there, right? Did the Marines also do it that way?

Thank you very much for your great help and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, February 14, 2021 12:25 PM

In my opinion, neither would be worn there.  I have never seen the large first aid case hung on the upper left suspender.  I have only seen the small first aid pouch (which only holds a pressure dressing/bandage) with the single button hung there.  The larger one is usually worn on the pistol belt, usually centered in the back.

A first aid case is on top of the buttpack here.  A first aid pouch is on the left uppper suspender.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, February 14, 2021 10:06 AM

Hi Pawel;

    I would say to make him look busy, The big one. To NOT make it look out of place-The Small one. I believe it's a matter of proportion at this point. Geez, He's looking great!

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:23 AM

Hello TB!

Thanks a lot for your kind words - they mean a lot to me!

I've got a question to all supporting me here: I've got two first aid kit carriers, the first one is a little on the big side, the other is pretty exactly 1/16. Which one looks better in your opinion?

Here's the first, bigger one:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

And here's the second, smaller one:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I'm counting on you - thanks in advance for your help and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, February 13, 2021 9:20 AM

Pawel:

 You have exceeded expectations again. This figure is going to be Awesome. Whatta Job so Far!

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, February 13, 2021 8:37 AM

Hello!

keavdog - If I had such a decal, I'd using. I don't have much of a problem about cheating...

And I have managed to paint the helmet and the fake canteen underneath it:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now I have to reasonably fit it on the belt. Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:36 PM

Looking good. Not sure of the manufacturer but there was a decal sheet with 1/16 national insigina and common unit markings available.  Cheating?  Maybe, but looks good.  Looking forward to the final reveal. 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:35 PM

Thanks a lot for your kind words, gennulmen!

TB - nope, I've got such a machine only in my dreams... :-)

Gamera - thank you very much!

And I'm working on painting the helmet "chocolate chip" pattern now... Please stay tuned and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 11, 2021 11:41 AM

That's fantastic work on the camo and extra added detail! Heart

 

This one is an award-winner for sure Pawel! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:15 AM

Geez, Pawel;

   If you put an over coat of Semi-Gloss over him when done, It will look like you put actual gear and clothes on him. Now, tell the truth. You have a shrinking machine like Fantastic Voyage hidden in the attic there in Poland right?

   This is Darned good work in my book!

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:03 PM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

Gino - Thanks a lot! Good to know im heading the right direction!

TB - nah, I didn't lose anything - just don't want parts to get in the way...

As for the shades of green - I have a project like this waiting in the box, it's a 40mm grenade launcher (thumper) gunner - but that's future.

And as for the dots - didn't the Germans have more of them back in the forties? Some funky camo pattern, too!

Now I'm pretty glad, because I have completed something I was kinda afraid of... The pistol! As I wrote it required some surgery on already painted parts - making a potential error costly... Here's my hacking together with an extension strap made out of 0,5mm styrene:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

The hip strap is made as before, from an old toothpaste tube. You can also see the holster (kit part) and the clip pouch that I sculpted.

I have also made the plastic buckle out of styrene sheet and after painting everything up and glueing the Captain looks like this:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now there's the helmet with my canteen-like chunk underneath - should be easy in comparison! Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, February 7, 2021 4:40 PM

Pawel!

I have heard that something and sombody will cause some to lose it! Really? Did you lose his head and arms or what? LOL.LOL. Just kidding! What you have done so far shows you to have as many multiple skillsets as I. I am enjoying this!

 I thought seperate instrument Decals( My sore Spot) were not my thing. I have done the TreibFlugel in 1/35 now and it was actually fun. But, those little dots in the Camo, I dunno, My friend. Now in the old days it was just shades of badly worn Green. Or in the case of a sailor on a ship at sea, faded Blue Shirt and Blue Jeans, ( Loose Fitting).

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, February 7, 2021 10:03 AM

Looking good.  The strap and canteen placement came out pretty well.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 7, 2021 8:05 AM

Hello!

Dodgy - thanks a lot for your kind words! I think most of the work is already done, but there are a few important details left yet.

And I have added the missing rear strap for the gas mask bag - made it out of metal taken from an old toothpaste tube. I have also glued one canteen - had to cut out some chunks from the already painted fig to make the canteen sit about right. That was a tricky operation... If I knew from the start about the "Verlindenitis" here", I'd probably start with all the cutting and fitting and start painting after all the cutting was done... But I didn't know, so it has to be done now. And here's how it turned out:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now the hard part - fitting the pistol on an extension strap, let's see how this turns out.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Dodgy on Sunday, February 7, 2021 4:12 AM

I'm very much looking forward to seeing the finished product Pawel. keep up the good work!.

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 2:37 PM

Hello!

Dodgy - thanks a lot for your kind words!

Yesterday I've found my man up pills :-) and I did some assemblying:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I have used black milliput to join the pieces together, as the mating surfaces didn't mate this perfecly so as to take CA for the job, plus I wanted to have some freedom of movement first to try to make the fig stand on its own - especially important in case of the boots.

While the milliput was still soft I decided to try to do the first aid carrier once again, a little closer to scale this time. I have also tried to show the helmet being hung on a second canteen, and I have also tried to sculpt a pistol clip pouch. You can see the initial first aid carrier on the left in the photo:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I decided I'll try to show the pistol hung from the belt on an extension strap. So now I have to add some missing straps and sand and paint the gear. Let's see...

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Dodgy on Monday, February 1, 2021 2:00 AM

Awsome work mate!

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:24 PM

Thanks a lot for your great help Capn!

I'd like to clarify one thing. It's not be so easy to measure a soft nylon bag, but all the dimensions you state would lead to a 5 inch tall box with a square, 3x3 inch cross section - while the photos show something that looks to me like it's wider than it's deep - I mean the cross section is more an elongated restangle than a square, and from the photos I'd expect something that is about as wide as it is high.

I started with the dimensions I found on an internet auction of the real thing - 150x135x60mm and scaled it down 1/16, and now when I measure the part it's about 9mm wide, 10mm high and about 5mm deep.

Looks like it might be a little too big - I'll take one more shot of it on the PASGT vest and you can tell me it it's way off... if it is, I'll sculpt it again!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, January 31, 2021 4:52 PM

That IFAK (Individual First Aid Kit; the abbrevieation is a term-of-art) looks good.

The carrier is a thin nylon, so it 'sucks down' and holds the hard edges of the plastic insert.

Quoted sizes are all over the map, the ones I've found are no bigger than 3x5x3 inches.

Taking a tape measure to the one on my "war belt" I get 2.875"w x 4.625" tall (box portion, with a 1/2" tab at the bottom) x 2.625" thick.
The one on my LBE is 3" wide x 4.75 (+ 1/2") x 3" deep (there's an additional dressing mashed inbetween the box and the carrier).

Paint schemes are spot on.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, January 31, 2021 4:35 PM

Hello!

Dodgy - thanks a lot for your kind words!

And I have taken the words of CapnMac to my heart and some time ago I had some Milliput mixed, so I took this opportunity to use it up and I have sculpted something like this:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Like the photo shows, it still needs work, so I sanded and scribed it a litle bit, then primed and painted up it looks like this:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I have also painted up the gas mask carrier. I tried out the paint by Games Workshop called "contrast" - you basically paint your part light gray and then put contrast on top of that and it naturally makes highlights on the protrusions of the part and shadows in the recesses . Here's what it looks like after just two coats:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now this gas mask carrier constitutes a kind of a jig that aligns the body of the figure with the pants. And the plan is to do some assembly next. But it looks like I will have to add some straps the good ole' Francois forgot. And that cord for compass the CapnMac mentioned.

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

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Posted by Dodgy on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 3:16 AM

Hi Pawel. I've been watching this thread with interest. Great work mate on a complex subject!

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, January 25, 2021 5:10 PM

Hello everybody!

TB, Gamera - thanks a lot for your kind words!

Capn - you're right about thinking, that can get you in a lot of trouble. Almost in as much trouble as not thinking at all!

Now thanks a lot for the great info here. As I'm about to sculpt the second canteen anyhow, I think I'll do the first aid carrier as well!

I tried to google it - surprisingly few examples to find on the web. One auction portal lists the dimensions as 150 x 135 x 60 mm - what would you say to that, Capn?

Now I have to locate my old pack of Milliput so as not to start a new one...

Thanks again for your great comments and have a nice day!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, January 24, 2021 7:55 PM

Just had a thought (yeah, I know, dangerous stuff).  Sea Services typically only used the Carrier, Field Dressing as a compass pouch*

Medical stuff was issued in the Carrier, First Aid, Individual:

Back view:

Back view shows the thing that joggled my mind--that center webbing is actually a doubled Velcro strap, which could be slid over the shoulder-pad strap on the PASGT vest.

The pouch is thin nylon with a vinyl/pvc "squishy" plastic box inside.  Dimensionally, it's about a field dressing pouch wide and deep (field dressing laid flat) and about a filed dressing lngth tall.  (Ok, checked, 75 x 127 x 75mm)

A Carrier, Field Dressing or Compass, has a single vertical "alice" clip, so it would ride sideways (and very floppy) on that shoulder strap

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*Might be apt, for a Marine CPT, to have a bit of paracord tied off to one of the shoulder pad straps and then vanishing into one of the pockets.  This to repersent the "dummy cord" to the compass he's likely to be carrying.  Adding a rectangular lump in the pocket to repersent the compass is down to you.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:27 AM

Pawel: The uniform, vest, boots- they all look pretty Censored good to me... Yes

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:28 AM

See!

 We're not always polishing these things. Looks real to me.

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 5:03 PM

Hello!

I think I'm done with the boots. I made the ankle reinforcement straps from a tea bag - tried to just paint them on first, but that didn't look good. Here's what the boots look like now - and I'll try to get better shots when I have some daylight available:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, January 18, 2021 2:55 PM

Hello everybody!

Stik - thanks a lot!

Cap'n  - again, lots of good info! Thank you very much! Like I wrote, I'll sculpt something like a second canteen to hang the helmet on. And I think I have an idea how to put the first one so that it looks better.

It was obvious for me, that the good old Francois was thinking about 1910 style gear with hooks hanging from the belt - just didn't take enough time to research it right - and he didn't have friends around here like I do!

I have also checked out that extender strap - I have to say that it looks really good, I'll think about modelling it this way.

But as for the dressing pouch - I think I'll put it on the vest front, opposite the flashlight.

Thanks again for your great comments and have a nice day

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, January 17, 2021 6:34 PM

HeavyArty
One canteen on right hip.

Marines typically carry two canteens.

This has changed with the widespread use of camelbaks.

François might be forgiven, the Belgies were still using M-1910 variant hook for their LBE into the 80s.  Those hooks connect things at the bottom of the belt, and often at the top of the carried "thing."  They can then bounce about.

The US adopted the slide keeper in 1956, which holds those items securely to the belt, and right at their centers.

Our CPT here could be using the extending strap on the UM-84 holster, which will get it neatly (if not obviously, the extension strap is narrower than the holster) under the PASGT vest. 
[Bianchi also made a drop-leg extension, which gets the holster down to the top of the thigh pocket, and has a thigh strap to prevent flopping.  I know of tankers who rigged that way, so as to not have the vest over a shest holster.]

If the CPT is a Company Commander (and especially if a Battalion XO) that dressing pouch is likely in the front pocket of the vest.  Maybe.  Perhaps.

Going around SWA without a canteen of water does not sound smart, but given the sculpt, I don't know how to fix it without a Farby.  (Going to wager an IRL CPT would have bottled water in the other vest pocket.)

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, January 16, 2021 10:58 AM

That’s coming along nicely Pawel. I’m looking forward to your next update.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, January 16, 2021 10:18 AM

Hello!

Stik - thanks a lot! So the way I see it I'll probably have to sculpt a second canteen (or the lower portion of it) to show under the helmet - and it also needs to sit higher on the belt.

In the meantime I was able to take daytime shots of the PASGT vest. Here they are:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

As you can see I have already painted the gloves, too. I'm just going to fix a few things I caught just when the photos were done and I'm slowly contemplating fixing the arms to the chest. I have also tried to paint up the US flag the way Capn suggested:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now its also hight time to finish the boots at last, I need to do some assemblying here!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:23 PM

If you don’t want to hold your helmet in your hand, and have to have it along while not wearing the thing on your head, you can simply loop the snapped chinstrap over a canteen worn on the LBE/Pistol Belt.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, January 14, 2021 5:49 PM

Hello!

Thanks again for your great comments!

Gamera - no sweat, I was expecting something like that - after all this is a Verlinden fig, they just regularily confront you with certain challenges!

Gino, Stik - of course it's not nice to have something wrong here, but thanks to your great input I will know to move things at least a little in the right direction - in this case I understand I have to move the pistol holster and the canteen as far up as I can to suggest they are hanging on the belt "by their midpoint", so to say. And the pics will help me get the color of the nylon right. And I think I will hang the dressing on the front of the vest.

So how about that helmet - is there any popular method of storing the "Fritz" when the cap is worn?

And in the moment I'm finishing painting the woodland pattern on the vest. Hope to post pictures soon!

Thanks again and have a nice day

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:13 AM

Yes, lots of information in this thread on late Cold War era “battle rattle” and uniforms. Of course there is far more unsaid at this point. 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:09 AM

AHHHGGGGGGHHHHHHH Bang Head that's why I like smaller figures- you can't see as clearly if they got the detail right or wrong!!!!!!! 

 

All joking aside VERY good advice you're getting here. And an education here for me. 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:24 PM

I guess he does have a pistol belt.  It can be worn w/out the suspenders, but isn't as comfortable since it has to be worn tighter around the waist to keep it up.  The canteen isn't right though.  The canteen connects to the belt just above the midpoint, not from the cap as the figure has it due to the belt being under the vest.  No idea how the helmet is hanging there, unless it is over another canteen?

Pistol belt w/canteens.  Note the connection point.

The M12 holster attaches the same way, so not sure how it is hanging on either.

 

 

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 4:57 PM

Hello!

In defence of good ole' Francois, the figure seems to have something like the pistol belt. I think this picture shows it best:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

From what I read it is possible to wear the belt without the suspenders, right?

What Stik says would make the most sense, of course - a vest/LBE unit. If I noticed this earlier, I might even be tempted to make a conversion!

And in the meantime I'm working on the woodland pattern for the vest.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 4:44 PM

Looking at the figure, he does not appear to have an LBE on at all.  I don't see any evidence of a pistol belt either.  The rest of his gear is just hanging there.  It is not clear how he is carrying the canteen, holster, nor the helmet.  I guess it is more "Verlinden Magic".

The first aid pouch could be connected to the strip on the left side of the vest, like the flashlight is on the right.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 4:27 PM

Pawel

Hello Gino!

Thanks a lot for the info!

How about when the PASGT vest (kevlar) is also worn?

I don't think it would be carried under the kevlar or would it?

Thanks in advance for the info and have a nice day

Paweł

 

No, LBE is worn over the vest. The shoulder sections have those snaps the can be unsnapped, the suspenders placed under those, then resnapped so that the LBE and vest become a single unit donned or removed together. Some guys will attach their protective mask carrier to that as well with a snap link and the carrier pouch straps.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:51 PM

Hello Gino!

Thanks a lot for the info!

How about when the PASGT vest (kevlar) is also worn?

I don't think it would be carried under the kevlar or would it?

Thanks in advance for the info and have a nice day

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:26 PM

The first aid pouch goes on the upper left strap of the LBE.  You can see a few standard LBE load-outs below.

One canteen on right hip.

With an e-tool pouch opposite the canteen on the other (left) hip.

Or with two canteens, first aid pouch still on the left strap.

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:04 PM

Hello!

Cap'n, Stik - thanks a lot for your comments, again - great info here.

As for the gas mask carrier - I meant Verlinden modelled it as if there was only a half of the upper, shoulder strap - the back half isn't there, but, as I said , it would be covered anyway.

What my daughter noticed - there's a personal dressing pouch in the kit, but the box doesn't show it and it is unclear where it should be put.

And thanks about the remarks about the flag.

The photos of the real thing are as always very welcome!

Thanks again and have a nice day

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, January 12, 2021 12:59 PM

M17 Protective Mask Carrier. Olive Drab cotton canvas

Outer side

 

 

Inner side worn against body

 

The lower thigh/waist strap in thinner than the upper waist/chest strap. The carrier can be worn at the hip or under the arm over the belt. The hip is the most comoon wear location.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, January 12, 2021 12:12 PM

Pawel
there's a strap for the gas mask bag on the front of the coat, but none on the back... I'll not correct this one though, as on the rear the spot will be covered by the canteen. I'd like to ask one more question if I may - what can you tell me about that shoulder US flag patch? Such flag is not so often there, is it?

M17 mask carrer has two straps, both are the same width.  One loops over the opposite hip, the other around the thigh.  There's a pocket on the bottom left (looking at the front of the carrier) that's very rectangular, that contains the decontamination kit, which is in a hard(ish) vinyl/plastic container.  So, the shape in the corner is quite distinct.

Prefered wear in 1990 was to snug the canteen to where it sat above the "notch" created by that decon pocket.

Amercian flags became a more common thing which in multinational deployments.

Byt rule they were menat to have the blue union to the front of the wearer, but supplies of those were limited, so, seeing them "backwards" (blue union to viewer's left) was some common.  Usually they were "bright" but some subdued examples were in the field.

Barring matching an actual photo, I'd probably go bright.  I'd probably render it "backwards" too, if only to tweak the experienced.  (Marines probably sent LCpl Snuffy down to the PX/BX to go grab all the US flag patches available at the beginning of the deployment, to get everyone to local SOP, and would not be picky--and would be distracted by the cases of I.W.Harper.)

If I can find my M17, I get you some photos.

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, January 10, 2021 1:46 PM

Hello!

I have painted the "spots" or "pebbles" and managed to take some daylight shots. I think I'm going to lighten the camo a little more still:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I have also found one more "Verlindenitis" symptom - there's a strap for the gas mask bag on the front of the coat, but none on the back... I'll not correct this one though, as on the rear the spot will be covered by the canteen.

I'd like to ask one more question if I may - what can you tell me about that shoulder US flag patch? Such flag is not so often there, is it?

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:34 PM

Hello!

Stik - thanks a lot for the great shots of the kevlar vest. This is going to help me a lot with the painting. Thanks also for the info on the belt.

I have already started painting this belt that is just visible under the lower edge of the kevlar vest. I have also put the brown spots in two colours on the coat:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now I have to add the "pebbles" and shade it a little to get the contrast down again.

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day!

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 7:20 PM

Here is the vest, front and back

 

 

The pistol belt is made from OD Nylon

 

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 6:13 PM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comments - they mean a lot to me!

Gino - great shots and thanks for clarifying the thing with rolled down sleeves and gloves.

Stik - good info on the vest, thanks a lot!

Capn - if the shoes can't be brand new - understandable! - then it's got to be the jungle boots, of course. Sure would love to see that vest, especially the back of it - that side is not documented as well on the web.

Gamera - Thanks a lot for your kind words!

And I have tried one more thing with the "chocolate chip" camo. After painting the coat white I have put on swaths of light green:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

On top of that I have just put one brown wash:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now I have tan and green swaths without so much contrast between them. Other coloursw will stay the same, but hopefully this will also help convey the looks of two separate garments - trousers and jacket.

One more thing - what colour would the gun belt be?

Thanks again and have a nice day

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:39 PM

Again I have no idea how accurate what you're painting is but it looks very impressive to me! Yes

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:47 AM

It would also be very period-appropriate to have the black 'jungle' boots, supply of all three variants of "the desert boot" lagged well behind tropp deployments.

The is particularly true for the Marines on two fornts.  One is that gear had to get to Regiment, and then down to each Company.  The other is a Marine focus on being "legs"--so unit commanders--like our putative Company commanding Captain--are going to be focused in on insuring that th troops have broken-in boots that fit, and in enough pairs to equip all hands.  Which had some Marine units in the black leather boots, too.

The boots I would up with were the second pattern (non conductive protected toe).

This topic has me thinking to go dig out my PASGT vest.  The nostalgia here is strong.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 10:03 AM

Pawel

 

Stik - thanks a lot for the great shots of the armor! They really help me a lot. The one in woodland camo is very interesting because it looks like it has at least two different kinds of fabric on it, I'll try to replicate it on my model. Good info about the bands, too - I was very close to making an error here - but I have to research the armor more.

 

 

 

 



You're quite welcome Pawel. Yes, the basic vest exterior is actually made from two fabrics. The external side of the armor panels is woodland camouflage nylon and has a canvas like texture. The pockets are the same nylon/cotton twill woodland camo fabric that the BDU and helmet cover are made from.

Gino covered the sleeves down and gloves, as well as the vest cover

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 8:37 AM

Pawel
Good ole' Francois decided to make the captain wear armor in woodland camo - is that realistic? And why? I could think about supply shortages or maybe woodland would be a better camo at night? (rolled down sleeves and gloves would also suggest nighttime, right?).

The woodland camo vest isn't really a mistake.  Not all units/Marines had the covers.  Many had mixed uniforms during ODS.  Also, sleeves down is standard when in the field and gloves are often worn to protect the hands.  Neither is indicative of nighttime ops.

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 6, 2021 7:39 AM

Hello!

Stik - thanks a lot for the great shots of the armor! They really help me a lot. The one in woodland camo is very interesting because it looks like it has at least two different kinds of fabric on it, I'll try to replicate it on my model. Good info about the bands, too - I was very close to making an error here - but I have to research the armor more.

Good ole' Francois decided to make the captain wear armor in woodland camo - is that realistic? And why? I could think about supply shortages or maybe woodland would be a better camo at night? (rolled down sleeves and gloves would also suggest nighttime, right?).

keavdog - that's what I discovered on my previous figure build (called Good Morning Vietnam) - there is a lot of first hand knowledge here on the forums and all you have to do is to politely ask! Makes building real fun. And thank you friends for heelping me!

I have tried to lighten the camo I already painted and make the contrasts less pronounced. Here's my result and I'm calling the trousers done:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

 Movin' on to the Coat, BDU and the boots now.

Thanks again for your great help and have a nice day

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 11:32 PM

Coming along nicely!  No shortage of reference help on this forum.  Great folks.

Thanks,

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:52 PM

The bands above the pockets on the body armor are for hanging items, not nametapes. On the vest itself they are OD. On the Desert camo cover that can be added, the bands are light tan.

 

 

And yes, Verlinden goofed on the boots details. No reinforcing bands for the ankles. But they do look like the black jungle boots that came out in the late 80’s with the padded collars.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:48 PM

Hello!

I have also noticed those OD bands, and it's a cool feature. But it won't work in my case:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

As you can see those bands would be covered by the vest - which in turn seems to have its own bands. I suppose those bands would be OD, too. The vest - by the way, is it kevlar? What would be the desription here? - is supposed to have woodland pattern.

I have also put the boots on wire holders:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Funny thing - those boots look a bit like the early jungle boots with no ankle bands, they don't have those tiny water drains, neither. I'm planning to add those features - more specifically, paint them on.

Thanks a lot for your comments and thanks for looking - have a nice day

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 4:34 PM

stikpusher
a reference shot

And an important one for showing a very common thing in-theater:  OD name & branch tapes.  Which officers would have bought in job lots.

The Marines issue gear by the Regiment, so, if a Theater required DBU, then those would be issued, each officer then had to get those uniforms badged up to regulations.

There was a bit of a fad, back in the 90s of having a name tape on the back of one's Utility cover, but it was not Corps-wide.  So, it can be forgiven if not replicated.

There ought to be a name tape over the back right pocket of the utility trousers, but that's going to be less visible.

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 2:16 PM

Gamera - thanks a lot for your kind words! I'll try one more thing - to make the "green" a little more green and I think I'll leave it at that.

Have a nice day!

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 8:23 AM

I like where you're going Pawel! At the size you're working at everything looks fine to me. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:37 PM

Here’s a reference shot for ya. To my eye, one sand was pinkish, and the other more yellow, not green. Then the two brown tones.

 

 

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:18 PM

Hello!

Thanks for the info, Stik! That will help me look for references!

And I also got one of the photos the Capn wanted to show us:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Looks a little like I need to make my pattern a little lighter and a little more dustier!

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, January 3, 2021 6:14 PM

Well the label, in it’s great GI jargon says: Coat Combat, Battle Dress Uniform, Day Desert Pattern, or something pretty close to that. And then of course each service has their own name for the item.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, January 3, 2021 5:05 PM

Hello Cap'n!

Sorry to tell you - the photo still doesn't show :-(

Maybe you'd like to PM or mail it to me - then I'd put it on my server and repost it, I'm very curious about what you have to show.

And I shot a daytime shot to hopefully reproduce the colours better. Here's what it looks like:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Unfortunately I didn't manage anything more, but my daughter urges me to move on with the jacket/blouse/parka (what's the correct term here?). She's a little more than 3 years old and her motivation is she get's to paint the white early on!

Thanks for lookin' and have a nice day

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, January 2, 2021 8:54 PM

Pawel
I'm afraid the photo you wanted to show didn't make it through.. Could you repost it?

Will try again (Kalmbach is ugly towards google photos)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XN42SLk9zKy294sv9

 

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, January 2, 2021 6:55 PM

Hello!

Eaglecash867 - thanks a lot for your kind words!

Capn - as always I can count on you with the interesting info! Thanks a lot! That's true, the cap looks a lot like a train driver's cap. The points aren't very distinct.

I'm afraid the photo you wanted to show didn't make it through.. Could you repost it?

And I tried my hand at the 6-Colour desert camouflage aka "cookie dough" or "chocolate chip" camo. Befor I read about it I didn't even suspect there are so many colours there - but that's because there are two tans (one of them is actually green) and two browns there. I wasn't sure how to show the colours right - here's what I have come up with.

First I had to repair the part that broke befor I even took it out of the box - the red arrow points to the place:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Then I primed the part with Tamiya grey spray primer and painted it all white:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Then I put on a brown wash - I got a nice pinkich tan that automatically shaded itself:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

To keep the contrast low I painted the green swaths with a green wash:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I have put some brown stripes on that:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

And some darker browns:Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now I put on some dark grey spots (the shadows of the "pebbles" - I didn't want to use pure black):

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

And now I have painted the pebbles themselves with off white - didn't want to use pure white neither:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

And this is what I have so far - I'll work some more on the faults that are just visible in the photos and maybe I'd shade the colurs some more. I'll also get better photos, I'll take them in the daylight. What do you think? Thanks for reading and have a nice day

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, January 1, 2021 2:43 PM

Pawel
I'm shaving the molded EGA off, too.

Good choice.

François' sculptors did you no favors with the shaps of the cover.  It's meant to have eight very distinct points, with a gusset or pleat from the sweatband up to those points.

Marines were (are) picky about their covers.  There is a pair of items, one is a round fixture, the other is a metal or plastic "stretcher" to hold the exact shape of the cover rigid so that it can be thoroughly be starched.  Very common stuff.  Also handy for when you pack your gear in a seabag.

https://www.grunt.com/products/blk1

Marine issue has a unique NSN (National Stock Number) for covers with a permanent (black) ink EGA.

These are floppity--and old--(USN officers are meant to wear a stack in lieu of rank).  The background colors on the "chips" are sore faded, too.

 

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:39 PM

What...no rip-stop pattern on the cover?  Hehehe.  Just kidding, Pawel.  That looks great so far!  Even looks like he's been deployed in the desert for a little while.

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:30 PM

Gamera - thanks a lot, I always wanted my threads not only to be fun, but also educational!

TB - glad it works for you, but it was in an other thread! I think the visor is all right - if I thinned it down it would become very brittle and damage-prone.

Happy new year!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, December 31, 2020 11:43 AM

Hi Pawel;

     I think the only comment I have is that I might've thinned the visor a little. Other than that, Well Done. Oh, the Stockholm is coming along better than the Doria. Thanks for the advice !

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, December 31, 2020 9:11 AM

Pawel: Sharp work on the hat, good luck on his pants! 

And interesting thread, I'm getting a whole new education here. 

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, December 31, 2020 7:02 AM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your comments. I said - WTF, I'm shaving the molded EGA off, too.

Eaglecash867 - nice idea, but the molding was too fine, all my scribers and needles looked like wrecking balls next to it, I just leveled it, just took some measurements before that.

I started painting the cap. I've found one on e-bay - good reference with many photos that unfortunately can't be easily copied - and try to copy it's pattern almost 1:1. IMO that's the best way to get a realistic pattern. I took some Games Workshop acrylics so that I don't have to wait almost at all until the paint dries. First I have painted the whole cap a tan-yellow, trying to keep it shaded (the recesses to be darker):

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Then added green patches:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Then some olive drab:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Then the black squiggles:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Then I painted on something EGA-like and tried to additionally shade it all, making the top surfaces lighter at the same time to suggest some fading:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

So here's how the Captain looks like at the moment:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I think I will now try my hand on the "chocolate chip" on the trousers, let's se how this turns out. Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:40 PM

Actually,Stik:

     You are about 95% correct. So Pawel would be correct going with the Iron On look too. Either way would look okay. I had both so it is really a moot point. Our Major preferred we present with the Metal one. As far as the field it was our call.

    I really preffered anything But Metal. Metal can make noise! Noise is your enemy!

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 11:21 AM

Pawel, I’d suggest that you do an image search. It’s likely gonna be pretty rare to find a metal EGA on the cover in that era. 

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 9:59 AM

Well;Stik, See there.

Things do change. My brothers(101stAirborne and 82nd Airborne called theirs Covers!)

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 9:57 AM

Sorry Pawel;

 When I was in you had a choice and most opted for the Metal Device. Many used the Iron -On Device only to have it start peeling off.The early ones weren't that sticky!

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:26 AM

Maybe you could lightly scribe around the edges of the EGA before shaving it off, and that would also help keep sharp edges for your simulated iron-on?

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 8:13 AM

Yeah, I've read about that too! It's tempting to leave it as is for ease of painting.. The question now - how unlikely would it be for a Marine officer to have something like that? If you tell me it's a no go, I'd probably shave the metal EGA off and try to paint on something, or look for a decal.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:10 PM

One other thing. The EGA worn on the utility cover is usually an iron on transfer, not  a metal device.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:07 PM

Hello everybody!

Thanks a lot for your comments!

While researching the "Utility cover" - I was mainly looking for good woodland pattern for the cap - I've found a "Verlindenitis" symptom to get rid of:

"Unlike the Army, Marines do not wear rank insignia on the cover, instead there is an Eagle, Globe, and Anchor in the middle of the cap" - but the good ole Francois managed to squeeze captain bars under the EGA (Eagle-Globe-Anchor). I have to remove them before I go on with painting.

Have a nice day

Paweł

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:12 PM

Cool, like how this is coming Pawel! 

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:14 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hi Stik;

 Just a little gem here. In all the services a hat is referred to as a cover.

 

Not in the US Army. Headgear is referred to by the name of the item: Helmet, soft cap/patrol cap, beret, garrison cap, etc.

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:03 AM

Hi Stik;

 Just a little gem here. In all the services a hat is referred to as a cover.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 11:00 AM

ODA 525 was a team from 5th Group inserted into the Euphrates Valley on a road watch mission on the eve of the ground war in Feb.1991. Their hide site was compromised, and they had to hold off numerically  superior Iraqi Forces for hours, eventually with the help of danger close close air support until they could be extracted.

 

once again another nice long detailed reply eliminated by FSMs soup sandwich forum iOS interface.

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:46 AM

Aha!

 Don't forget Pawel, The Globe and Anchor would be Black, or on the miniature, shades therof. I have one little figure of a German farmer. In 1/35, Don't remember where I got him , but he turned out looking like an early picture of Josef Stalin.

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 8:11 AM

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your great comments.

Stik - thank you for the photo references. Can you tell me more on the ODA 525? It's the first time I hear the name of this unit mentioned.

Gamera - I can use moral support, too! Welcome!

TB - a good boss is a treasure, in the military probably even more than in a civilian job where you don't need to put your life on the line.

I'm having a few days off between the holidays - so there's no better opportunity to clock some modelling time! Here's what I did with the face of my fig. First I put on some Tamiya grey spray primer, I let it dry and then I put on a layer of Humbrol 63:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

This needs to dry well - 24 hours or more. Once this is dry I put on some dark brown wash made out of Humbrol brown paint diluted with airbrush thinner:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Now this wash doesn't need to be dry before I mix white paint with (very little of) the same brown used before, getting a pale pink shade, that I dry-brush on the face to create highlights. Here's the effect:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

I've also tried to bend the colours a little by applying some acrylics. Those were the Games Workshop "Kislev Flesh" and "Cadian Fleshtone" (those names!) - they turned out to be almost perfect match to what already had been there:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

Finally I took some more Games Workshop dark grey and painted the eyes and the moustache:

Verlinden 120mm (1/16) USMC Marine during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait 631

The lower lip was also painted brown - it's hard to spot in the photo but it really makes a difference.

Now I need to work on the cover - I'd be glad for some references. I'm especially interested in how the underside of the visor looked - or the correct name of the cap, so I can google for more references.

Thanks for looking and have a ncie day

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, December 28, 2020 7:09 AM

Ah, Pawel!

 This is an Officer that endgendered, Duty, Honor, and Country to his men. I don't know how he did it , But I imagine there was OCS or something like that for him as well. But I will say this.The Crew would,ve Gone to Hell and Back for that man and our ship. Now I cannot speak for the other officers. I know that NO One trusted or liked the X.O. He came across as a Sleazeball.

     Oh, he( The X.O.) also came from a Heavy Cruiser that De-Commissioned. I don't think he liked FRAM destroyers anyway. Or any Destroyer at that, Especially one that was as older than he was. I had worn out Sergeant level M.O.S.s after my transfer to the Marine Corps, and Was offered a Warrant after school. I turned it down.

 Althoutgh I do respect the Uniform, If I cannot respect the Man I cannot do it. To many Line Officers look down on OCS and other step-ups as lesser than they and don't mind showing it. The Academy grads are the worst!

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, December 27, 2020 7:40 PM

Don't know enough to give any advice but I can supply moral support- this looks really cool Pawel and good luck with him!

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:44 PM

Found a photo of a Delta team wearing chocolate chips DCUs during Scud hunting ops in Deserts Storm

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:14 PM

Gen Schwarzkopf was an interesting soldier. It is reputed that he loved his enlisted troops but was hell on his staff officers. I can look and see what I can find for SOF troops in chocolate chips.

As far as ODA 525 goes, their hide site for road overwatch was in a farm area of the Euphrates Valley, and was green with vegetation at that time. The BDUs make more sense than DCUs for that locale. 

My understanding was that many recently arrived units from Europe, such as VIIth Corps did not get DCUs until after the cease fire. But then again, aside from XVIIIth Airborne Corps out west, all US heavy forces were in MOPP gear in case of chemical attack. The MOPP suits came in either solid olive green or woodland camo. I havent seen Three Kings in years, but I think that they had woodland MOPP suits on in the movie over their DCUs.

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, December 27, 2020 3:22 PM

TB - musta been really somethin', serving under such an officer!

Capn - sure counted on your help on this one! The Verlinden model looks like an older, respectable Marine, maybe the good old Francois wanted to show a "mustang" with his miniature.

I generally planned to do a lighter colour uniform on my figure, than the one seen on the boxtop photo.

stik - good to see you on my thread! I think I'll go with classic jungle boots here. I read the good ole' Norm employed a lieutenant or a captain to keep his bathroom clean - I wouldn't want to model someone like that...

That's a very nice photo you posted - wouln't you have any showing a "chocolate chip" camo?

I also wanted to ask you about this one thing I first noted looking at the "Three Kings" movie - that woodland camo vest, in the movie it looks a bit like they wear woodland at night and "chocolate chip" underneath that and during the daytime. Can you tell me more on the woodland/chocolate chip mixture?

Thanks a lot for your great comments and have a nice day

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, December 27, 2020 1:58 PM

Norm, his D-Boys entourage, and a few other SF types, had access to British or Saudi all tan desert boots in 1991. 

 

 

ODA 525 prior to insertion into Iraq on a strategic reconnaissance road watch op in Feb 1991.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, December 27, 2020 1:18 PM

Pawel
It could be though, that a real life Captain like this started his military career in the last years of Vietnam, right?

1973 to 1991 being 18 years, our putative O-3 would have to be a "mustang"--prior enlisted and advance through the ranks by way of an officer accesion program(MESEP, OCS, PLC, etc.)

A Marine O-3 will be pretty salty, at least 4 years' experience, potentially a Company commander, or a Battalion (or Regiment) staff officer.

That Verlinden color image is terrible, too--chocolate chips are very tan, to nearly a yellow ocher or sand sort of base.  The green components are a mix of sage to near schwartzgrun sort of color.  The images further along are better references.

Now, the boots almost certainly need to be green & black jungle boots--the desert boots were not readily available until around 1992--well after the "100 days."

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, December 27, 2020 7:57 AM

Hi Pawel;

      I forgot to say he looks better than I did after my last tour.Yes, As a "Gunny" I did have the Brush! I only went a month after transfer from the Navy and got my permission for the brush. It was a short " Handle-Bar " in the Navy. Our ship's Captain allowed them as long as they were shorter than His. He was a Holdover from Korea and the waning Days of W.W.2 and a "Mustanger" to boot.

 A " Mustanger" was an officer who worked his way up through the ranks to the Bridge of His own ship. He, Commander Turner, also did it from the Engine Room! So, He had a soft spot for any " B " or " M " division sailors and "Petty Officers"

 

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Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, December 26, 2020 7:35 PM

The USMC does allow mustaches, from their grooming standards:

  • A mustache may be worn after recruit training, but the face must be clean shaven daily. The mustache will be neatly trimmed and must be contained within imaginary vertical lines from the corners of the mouth and the margin area of the upper lip. The individual length of a mustache hair fully extended must not exceed 1/2 inch.

Good luck to you!  Feel free to join the 30th Anniversary Gulf War GB with this, if you want to.  Either way I will be following this one!

Robert 

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:56 PM

Eaglecash867, TB - thanks a lot for the info. I think I may leave the moustache, I'll just tone it down a bit.

John - thanks a lot for the photos, they sure help a lot. I also sent you the e-mail.

Thanks again and have a nice day

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, December 26, 2020 3:36 PM

Uh Oh!

 That last photo, looks to much like General Swartzkopf. Now for your information there were a lot of Marines with Mustaches.It's just not done in anything requiring The typical P.R. Marine Photo-You Know Dress Uniform and at Attention type stuff. We got hammering dirty,wet and scuzzy. Still, some Officers gave us permission to wear a brush. "Not Extreme ," You Hear!!"? Sir! Yes Sir!"" Thank You, Sir"

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:35 PM

Not sure how clear this will come across - if you give me an email I'll send the pic to you - page 79 out of Verlinden Productions Modeling Magazine Volume 2 Number 3

 

 

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:26 PM

I did this Verlinden stinger gunner years ago and the paintjob isn't that bad.  Get a good reference and take your time

 

Thanks,

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:23 PM

Captain Brian Chontosh had a mustache in Iraq, I think that was in 2004.  You can find video from CNN with him in it.

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, December 26, 2020 2:10 PM

Hello!

I have googled for images of USMC officers and I had a hard time finding one with a moustache - so I think I'm going to correct that on the figure.

What do you say - how probable would it be to have the captain have a moustache?

Have a nice day

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