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EOI: Anyone for a Macross Group Build?

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Posted by Cosmic J on Saturday, September 4, 2010 3:20 AM

I remember that the physical height of the Zentradi tended to vary depending on the demands of the plot. Since it happened in a show about transforming fighter planes, I was completely unconcerned  by this. Cool

My YF-19 came in the mail today. Now I no longer have to feel like the wallflower in this GB. For a 1/72 scale model, its larger than I thought it would be, and appears to be as complex as a 1/48 jet fighter kit. I am much pleased.

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, September 4, 2010 1:14 AM

Nice.. Big Smile

The variable kits build up nicely, good fit and nice tight seams. You do need to take care though, if you want everything to move as advertised and the movable joints tend to get a bit floppy, but they're nice kits.

Of course there's a couple of compromises for the sake of transformability - the wings are a little short in fighter mode, but a bit long in battroid mode, the tail fins are a little undersize and there's a couple of very noticeable hinge bulges. Back in the day, they were the most desired kits by Macross fans (and the only way, until Hasegawa, to get a 1.72 scale fighter version). The wings have a funny textured surface (the wings on the 1/72 Gerwalks had this too), but this will soon disappear under a coat of paint. You may find a sink mark at the edge of the circular depression on the engine nacelle sides - I've had a few like that. 

I may yet pull out one of the Revell boxed variable kits too.

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Posted by Kugai on Saturday, September 4, 2010 1:04 AM

Gunpla Master

 

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Size of us to them??????Indifferent

Yep, that's right.  I don't know about the original Macross, but in Robotech's 2nd episode Roy Fokker tells Rick that the remains of the Zentrans found in the crashed spaceship were seen as a reason to build the giant humanoid mecha and transforming fighters.  When you compare the parts for the kits you showed kits of here, the VF-1 is a 1:72 transforming fighter and the Nasjadeul is a 1:144 scale kit of a powered armor suit!

From what we've seen of some characters, though, the 10m example in your screencap wouldn't be the tallest kid in his class.  There have been some in the shows that seemed almost twice that height.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, September 3, 2010 11:29 PM

Picked these up today.

Size of us to them??????Indifferent

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Posted by Cosmic J on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:30 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot about those Chain Bases. I think my Defender needs to be on one of those...

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 7:56 PM

Here is what I did with my Robotech Factory Kits, sorry no pics kit died during a move.

 

Replaced the hangar Doors, there are gaps around them that look like they were designed to be cut off.

Made mine slide open diagonally, this also allowed me to make new numbers for the doors from sheet styrene.

 

Added lights above the hangar doors and in the floor around the turntable(detail is molded in).

A few LED and/or Fiber-optics will sort you out. Today I might a few other lights like red rotating warning lights, etc or maybe even cannibalize a MG Gundam MS Cage,

 

Added a few other details, like more gantries, pullies and a ground-crew.

Said that today I might ditch the supplied Hangar in exchange for a chain-base, etc.

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Posted by Kugai on Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:31 PM

Mad-Modeler

 

Looking forward to seeing an y of the factory kits being done.

Same here!  I've never seen them done other than the one in the flyer that came with the Revell Robotech kits and any interest I've had in building one is killed when I see the price tag.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:23 PM

As I said in the other Thread, Robotech Factory is Macross.

The Smaller factory kits are also Macross.

 

I used to have all the Factory Kits as well as the 3 Dioram kits(1 vac-form base, 3 ground vehicles and 1 Robot/Valkyrie/Gerwalk).

 

Looking forward to seeing an y of the factory kits being done.

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:41 PM

Doh!

I have the Robotech Factory.The mechs in that kit will qualify,correct?

I also have one of the small factory kits,will that do?

I'm not very well versed in this stuff.I just think it's cool.

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:16 PM

Thanks.I'll see what I can dig up.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:48 AM

TD4438.

Here is a reference site for Macross mecha:

http://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/sdfmacross-index.html

HTH.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:38 AM

Zoltek is the main robot (Dougram) from "Fang of the Sun Dougram" (太陽の牙ダグラム, Taiyō no Kiba Daguramu).

 

A very nice Anime series with some very cool designs but unfortunately not Macross.

 

Phil got there first.

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:36 AM

TD4438
I was thinking of the Zoltek kit I have in the stash.

Hey TD4438

Sorry, but unfortunately that particular kit doesn't qualify as Macross, as it came from Dougram. Sad

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Posted by TD4438 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:28 AM

Phil_H

 TD4438:
Would the old Robotech Revell kits count?

Many of the Revell Robotech boxings are Macross based, but some are not.

Of the larger boxings:

Robotech "Changers":
Vexar = Imai 1/72 VF-1S Valkyrie
Axoid = Imai 1/72 VF-1J Valkyrie
Orbot = Imai 1/72 VF-1D Valkyrie
(these three are "transformable")

Robotech
Space Fortress SDF-1 = Imai 1/5000 SDF-1 Cruiser mode
Attack Fortress SDF-1 = Arii 1/5000  "Storm Attacker" SDF-1
Robotech Factory = 2x 1/100 Imai(?) "factory" modules with armoured battroid and Destroid Tomahawk mechs

All of the above are Macross. In the Revell Robotech line, there are a number of smaller 1/100 and 1/170 kits (sometimes offered as 2-in-1's) which fall under Macross.

As mentioned, there are others which originate from other series, so let us know what you have and we can tell you if it fits or not. Smile

 

I was thinking of the Zoltek kit I have in the stash.

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, August 23, 2010 7:51 PM

Hey Kugai,

I think anything on your list would be great. The Monster would be nice too. I've seen one of the 1/200 ones built up and it's ultra cool.Cool 

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Posted by Kugai on Monday, August 23, 2010 5:18 PM

Okay, looking at the stash, I have a lot of ideas and just need to narrow things down to something like 2. n Here's what I'm considering so far.

- Queadlunn-Rau modified Klan-Klan's Queadlunn-Rea in m Frontier

- VF-25 recon version  with some kind of custom paint and 2 of the drones modified, one to the Galaxy combat variant and the other to the Ghost from M Plus

- VF-0B

- Hasegawa VF-1 battloid, undecided on whether to do the regular, Strike, or Super.

- 1:100 Destroid Spartan or Tomahawk

- VF-25 Ozuma version

- VE-1 Elintseeker

- SV-51 with boosters

- 1:100 Glaug battlepod

I'm also considering the 1:200 HWR-00 Monster, but to get one at a reasonable price I had to get one that was already started.  If I remember right, it only had the upper leg sections, cannon barrel halves, and outer arm sections had put together.  Would that be close enough to "new" for this given the cleanup that'll be needed?  If it is and I end up choosing it for one of my GB contributions, I'll throw in a 1:200 Tomahawk and Spartan for comparison.

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Posted by SteelSnail on Monday, August 23, 2010 2:03 PM

Phil_H

I hope you can understand the reasoning behind wanting to restrict "non-Macross" schemes.

Cheers,

Phil

Yes man, no problem. I asked because to see if I could mix it with another project.

The time frame for the GB is great. It lets me finish current projects and I plan to start a pure Macross model  by mid/late Novemeber.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:45 AM

Uhm, yeah. I uh, I knew that already.  I was just testing you, is all...

Whistling

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:34 AM

Cosmic J
You gonna make up a Badge?

Hey CJ, I cobbled together a simple badge - it's on the first post of this thread. I'm welcome to alternatives though, if anyone wants to do one. Smile

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:27 AM

I like the September start date. Gives my postman time to deliver my new kit. Big Smile

You gonna make up a Badge?

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:26 AM

Ok, the Macross Group Build 2010-2011 thread is up.  You know the drill, post WIP's in the GB thread and  general queries here. Smile

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:46 AM

Cool, I'll start a thread in the Group Build forum and put you down for a Hasegawa VF-1A Super Valkyrie  (or should I say "Booby Duck"?)  Smile

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Posted by Harshman II on Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:41 AM

Phil_H

 Harshman II:
Can the date be bringing forward to an earlier date? I have a 1/72 Hasegawa VF-1A Super valkyrie and I need to start it on Monday. I hope I can join this group build. Maybe set it on 22th of august.

 

Heya Harshman,

We need a little lead time because some of the guys need time to order or are waiting on kits to arrive, but with the long timeframe I don't think anyone will object if you want to start early - it's just for fun and not a contest. Big Smile

Good good!... Then I will lead the first kit and kick start this group build.

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:36 AM

Harshman II
Can the date be bringing forward to an earlier date? I have a 1/72 Hasegawa VF-1A Super valkyrie and I need to start it on Monday. I hope I can join this group build. Maybe set it on 22th of august.

 

Heya Harshman,

We need a little lead time because some of the guys need time to order or are waiting on kits to arrive, but with the long timeframe I don't think anyone will object if you want to start early - it's just for fun and not a contest. Big Smile

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Saturday, August 21, 2010 10:20 AM

Sep 20th is fine here, gives me time to clear some crud(builds) of the bench and the Wave kit should be released around that time.

 

Harshman II:

Do your build now but keep the log/photos and post once the GB started . My view.

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Posted by Harshman II on Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:57 AM

Phil_H

How does starting on 20 September sound to everyone? As I mentioned earlier, this should allow time for people to finish off current WIP's and for ordered kits to come in.

I'll update the opening post with this as a tentative start date and the guidelines we've established so far.

Please feel free to offer any suggestions/ideas.

 

Can the date be bringing forward to an earlier date? I have a 1/72 Hasegawa VF-1A Super valkyrie and I need to start it on Monday. I hope I can join this group build. Maybe set it on 22th of august.

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Posted by eptingmike on Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:41 AM

Sept. 20 sounds fine to me and I do think that your setting of 12 months is great as it should give people plenty of opportunity to join up along the way(and give me plenty of time to finish!Smile).

Mike

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:18 AM

How does starting on 20 September sound to everyone? As I mentioned earlier, this should allow time for people to finish off current WIP's and for ordered kits to come in.

I'll update the opening post with this as a tentative start date and the guidelines we've established so far.

Please feel free to offer any suggestions/ideas.

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:31 AM

Cosmic J
Two seater cockpit option? Hmmm... maybe I need one after all...

Looks like you have a 2-seat option in the 1/72 YF-19 kit too. I've been taking a long hard look at picking up one of those puppies. Wink

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