SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

AMT 1/420 USS Defiant - Completed!

4815 views
33 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 3:31 PM

That turned out nicely.  It's great you found a found a method that worked!  One of the things I love about this hobby are the opportunities to learn. :)

Looking forward to your next build!

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:56 AM

Have not heard of it.  I will have to look into it, thank you for the pass along.

Mikeym_us

Actually have you ever thought of using Solarez as a gap filler? Basically put it on use UV light to cure it then sand. It's the same type of Resin that comes in the pen with a UV light attached.

 

 

 
Mustang8376

..and the build continues.  Worked on the seams using Vallejo putty.  First time using it, not bad.  Have to remember how to work with water based putty versus Tamiya's putty.

 
 SAM_8439 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8440 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8441 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8442 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8443 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8444 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8445 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8446 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8447 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8448 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
Here are the bussar collectors.
 SAM_8449 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8450 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 

 

 

 

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 28, 2022 7:33 PM

Looks awesome! Congrads!!! Great job on my third favorite SF spacecraft! Heart

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, February 28, 2022 3:06 PM

Actually have you ever thought of using Solarez as a gap filler? Basically put it on use UV light to cure it then sand. It's the same type of Resin that comes in the pen with a UV light attached.

 

Mustang8376

..and the build continues.  Worked on the seams using Vallejo putty.  First time using it, not bad.  Have to remember how to work with water based putty versus Tamiya's putty.

 
 SAM_8439 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8440 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8441 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8442 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8443 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8444 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8445 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8446 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8447 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8448 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
Here are the bussar collectors.
 SAM_8449 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8450 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Monday, February 28, 2022 12:55 PM

... and I shall now call her done!    Interesting build, fun having to deal with decals that were from the 90's hence why some of them have a red sheen.  I am happy with the build.  I was able to get the paint thinned enough to hand brush some places, yet at times I still had to hit it again with the airbrush.  Alot of things learned on this, I am happy with the build yet as with all things, I can see the mistakes but I do hope to do better on the next one. 

 20220228_071710 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 11, 2022 5:39 PM

Mustang: Somehow I missed this last post- but fantastic job there! Love how the different panels came out. Yes

Phoenix: Good luck! Brushing paints on anything other than figures gives me fits! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 9:42 PM

First off I've been really enjoying following this build.

I use Vallejo paints as well and I found the airbrush thinner to be a bit aggressive and had a tendency to soften the paint below even when well cured.  I haven't used the Glaze Medium but I have used a mixe of Thinner Medium + 1 drop Water + 1 drop paint. Will sometimes substiture Airbrush Flow Improver for the water since it has a drying retarder in it and is not as agressive as the regular airbrush thinner.

Life has kept me away from the bench for the last couple of months and your quandry got me curious and was a good excuse to get back to the bench, so I set up some tests to see how easy/hard it would be to correct.

Hope you don't mind an illustrated guide of my own attempts. Smile

I had a "scrap" model hanging around that I had primed with black and gave it a good coating of "medium sea grey".

I then used a black sharpie to make some additional lines that I would attempt to clean up a little.

basic

supplies

I made up a batch of the regular thinned paint with water.  This usually takes a few coats to get a good solid color but has the benefit of leaving near zero in the way of paint ridges.

first test

I could already tell it was was lighter than the rest of the base color.

Sometimes the flat coat will even out the color but it didn't really do much in this case.

second set of cleanup

I then mixed up another batch of thinned paint.  This time using the Flow Improver and added just a smidge of black to it to darken the paint to better match the underlying black primer.  What's on the toothpick is what I added.  I did that twice. This mix tends to be a little thicker as the Flow Improver has a slightly higher viscosity but still goes down nicely.

mixing paint

Painted that as crossbars for comparison

second test

Looking pretty good.

Hit it with the flat coat and this time the issue was reversed.  The second attempt came out too dark.

second flat coat test

I think that with such a dark primer coat this is going to be an issue of too light or dark if try to fix with the base color.  However, you may have more success if the cleanup is done with the other colors you applied on top of the basecoat.

Hope my little test was of some help.

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Wednesday, February 9, 2022 9:46 AM

I am just about to call the painting stage done.  Any little touch ups might have to be done by hand if I can figure out how to apply the paint where it doesn't come off too thick or darker than what was airbrushed.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Already tried thinning my Vallejo paints with Vallejo Airbrush thinner, should I try Vallejo Glaze?

 SAM_8585 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8586 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8587 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8588 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8589 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8590 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8591 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8592 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8593 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8594 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8595 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8596 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8597 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8598 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Friday, January 14, 2022 2:20 PM

Masking tape is one of those boon/bane things.  It makes some things much easier, but it takes a pretty significant upfront investment in time and patience.

I like how the pattern is turning out.  What are you using for reference or is it inspiration?

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 9:46 AM

PhoenixG

It's coming along nicely!  It's amazing how much visual interest is created by adding panels of different shades of grey.

Getting tired of the sight of masking tape yet? ;)

Look forward to your next post!

 

 

I am so done with masking tape!  At least it didn't strip off some of the paint like my Micro-Mask.  Words were spoken... and I meant them. :)  Working on the last of the gray then I will be addressing the tan panel and then whatever paint corrections.

 SAM_8575 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8576 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8577 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8578 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8579 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8580 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8581 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8582 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8583 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 10:49 AM

It's coming along nicely!  It's amazing how much visual interest is created by adding panels of different shades of grey.

Getting tired of the sight of masking tape yet? ;)

Look forward to your next post!

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, December 20, 2021 3:02 PM

Super nice work!!! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Monday, December 20, 2021 11:48 AM

Just rolling along.  I've just about completed to colors labelled B and working on C.  After that it will be on to D, which are all variations of the color gray.  Slight bleed under the tape by the bridge but still happy with the results.  New airbrush is still taking some getting used to but overall I am happy with how things are coming along. 

 

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 10:26 PM

Great job! The different shades of grey really bring her to life. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 11:22 AM

..and the painting continues!  Base color done, now on to the panels.  Currently working on the "B" colors from the instruction sheet.  Plan is to do everything in shades of gray.  Plus this was an good chance to use my new double action airbrush.  So far, I am impressed even if it's a *cough* knock-off. :)

 SAM_8568 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8568 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8570 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8571 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8572 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8573 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, November 18, 2021 11:29 PM

Regardless of challenges with the putty I think it is coming along nicely. 

I am just starting to learn how to use putties and gap fillers on my current build and can sympathize.  My model has spots were it worked and others, well not so much.  Puttying seems to be another art to master like painting.

 

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Thursday, November 18, 2021 7:36 AM

Oh those seams!  I cringe just looking at them, but they are still better then what they were when I started the build.  As for the Vallejo putty I used, I am on the fence on how it came out.  Maybe with another build using it I will have a better idea on how I feel about it.  Personally I feel it's operator error! Angel

As for this build, a couple of coats of the base color have been applied.  A couple more to go.

 SAM_8551 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8552 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8553 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8554 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8555 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8556 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8557 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8558 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8559 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8560 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8561 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8562 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8563 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8564 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8565 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    October 2021
Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:21 PM

Coming along nicely!

Thanks for the reference to Don Suratos recipes for thinning Vallejo paints.  It's something I have been experimenting with to get the right consistency. 

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:33 PM

Very nice work!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 2:10 PM

Here we go, primer is done and setting and just awaiting the application of the base coat.  The silver is done for the display case.  The bussard collectors look better in person then how the pictures came out.  One thing, I found some tutorials by Don Suratos on how to thin the different Vallejo paints that was a life saver.

 SAM_8537 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8538 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8540 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8541 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8542 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8543 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8544 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8545 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:23 AM

It's good to see her together!

 

The black undercoat makes her look like she's from the Terran Empire from the Mirror Universe though! (Yeah I know they did have a Defiant and they used the same stock footage so she was the same Federation pale grey). 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:46 AM

Finally have something to show.  Started to prime the model and worked more on the stand.  Taped off the gold and started to spray the silver down.  Also had to remove the paint on the bussard collectors and redo it, this time using silver as an undercoat instead of black.

 SAM_8501 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8502 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8503 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8504 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8505 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8506 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8507 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8508 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
Stand
 SAM_8509 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8510 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8511 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
Bussard Collectors
 SAM_8512 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8513 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 27, 2021 11:34 AM

She's looking fantastic!!!

The Chief would be proud!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Monday, September 27, 2021 10:13 AM

Still fighting th seams, but they are coming along.

 SAM_8490 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8489 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8488 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8487 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8485 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8484 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8483 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8482 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8481 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8480 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8477 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8476 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8473 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 
Painting the stand the gold color… hopefully the color will even out as it dries.
 
 SAM_8471 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8470 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:49 AM

Again good luck with it! She looks good!

I've half a mind to find mine, tear her back apart and try to light her. I still have a FSM issue where a guy did a really cool job on his with fiber optic cable and LEDs.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Thursday, September 9, 2021 8:59 AM

Rob Gronovius

Buddy, my hat's off to you; that kit looks just like I remember it when it arrived in the late 90s. Squadron white putty was used throughout the hull halves. I always thought it would have been neat if they had issued this kit in clear plastic like they did with the Enterprise-C as the Yamaguchi. That way we could have done a "cloaked" version.

I thought the USS Excelsior was the best starship kit that AMT/Ertl produced. The Enterprise-B being just as good and the -C/Yamaguchi being close in quality.

 

 

I have the Enterprise B and the C somewhere in my stash.  I might have to tackle those soon.  :)  Even with the putty it's easy to assemble, just all of those seams! Toast

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, September 8, 2021 10:49 AM

Buddy, my hat's off to you; that kit looks just like I remember it when it arrived in the late 90s. Squadron white putty was used throughout the hull halves. I always thought it would have been neat if they had issued this kit in clear plastic like they did with the Enterprise-C as the Yamaguchi. That way we could have done a "cloaked" version.

I thought the USS Excelsior was the best starship kit that AMT/Ertl produced. The Enterprise-B being just as good and the -C/Yamaguchi being close in quality.

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Atlanta, GA
Posted by Mustang8376 on Tuesday, September 7, 2021 1:29 PM

Okay, so I had to breakdown and use some Tamiya putty for the nacelles and the nose section.  Still coming along alright.  I "attempted"to airbrush Vallejo's Model Air Copper.  yeah, that didn't go so well.Crying  For some reason, I just can not spray their metallic colors.

 SAM_8453 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8457 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8456 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8455 by Darren Keller, on Flickr
 SAM_8454 by Darren Keller, on Flickr

Current build: Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D

 


On Hold: 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM

Completed:  AMT 1/420 USS Defiant

Completed: AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise

Completed: 1/72 Bandai VF-1J

Completed: AMT 1/537 USS Reliant

Completed: Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams

Completed: Academy 1/48 F-86F30

Completed: Linbergh's USS Gato 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, August 30, 2021 11:27 AM

Awwwwwww cool!!! My third favorite SF ship!!!

Good luck with her!!! I've got the same kit, started work on her years and years ago and got frustrated and put her back in the box and shelfed her.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS
FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.