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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, May 7, 2022 11:30 PM

Cool.  Bob Stamp has a thread on his build here somewhere.

And a review here: https://finescale.com/product-info/kit-reviews/2014/01/pegasus-hobbies-the-nautilus

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, May 8, 2022 12:36 AM

LOL

Bakster, I look forward to hearing how well Nemo entertains his guests as well as watching the build progress. Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:31 AM

keavdog

Cool.  Bob Stamp has a thread on his build here somewhere.

And a review here: https://finescale.com/product-info/kit-reviews/2014/01/pegasus-hobbies-the-nautilus

 

 

Thanks for the link, John! It is a good read, and there are some good tips there.

The reviewers point about detailing the interior is a common complaint with this kit. Poor lighting is a major issue. Some builders complain that even with adequate interior lighting the jeweled window assembly finishes off the problem by distorting what a person can see. You can see shapes and such, but that is about it.

I am firmly in the camp that if I can't see it, I don't waste time on it. But, and that is big but, I hope to CHEAT! Lighting is a must, and I will do that, but I will make the window assembly removeable. Then if a person wants to see the interior in all of its glory, you can. That is the plan, anyway. Lol.

I recall seeing and commenting to Bobs salon. It looks awesome! I hope we see more!

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:35 AM

PhoenixG

LOL

Bakster, I look forward to hearing how well Nemo entertains his guests as well as watching the build progress. Smile

 

LOL.  In my opinion, Nemo is a classic narcissist. I am sure he'll regale us with his many exploits!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:36 AM

Hi;

       I haven't seen the kit itself till this post. Now I am wondering, can .010 sheet be cut for those salon Windows? I might try a mockup first. It might not be easy, But, might improve the clarity thereof

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 7:47 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hi;

       I haven't seen the kit itself till this post. Now I am wondering, can .010 sheet be cut for those salon Windows? I might try a mockup first. It might not be easy, But, might improve the clarity thereof

 

Dang it, TB. That is an interesting idea... I will give it thought.

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Posted by dlh on Sunday, May 8, 2022 9:28 AM

I'm building this kit now.  Will will be lit with a Voodoo kit.  Right now, I'm pondering what finish the exterior will get.  I've looked at lots of builds and examples online.

Have fun.  I'll be following.

Dave

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 11:01 AM

dlh

I'm building this kit now.  Will will be lit with a Voodoo kit.  Right now, I'm pondering what finish the exterior will get.  I've looked at lots of builds and examples online.

Have fun.  I'll be following.

Dave

 

Hey Dave, thanks for chiming in. What finish are your leaning towards? Like you, I have been looking at other builds. I am leaning towards a rust brown. How far along are you on your build?

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 11:42 AM

Interesting video about the movie, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea.


https://youtu.be/U1fpTp66vjU

 

 

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Posted by lurch on Sunday, May 8, 2022 12:40 PM

That looks like a cool thing to do. I like it.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 1:02 PM

lurch

That looks like a cool thing to do. I like it.

 

Indeed! 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 1:45 PM

I didn't think I'd be posting today but here is something to chew on.  I removed and cleaned up parts for the salon. Until I did this I didn't know just how much detail they put into this. I like it. Below are a series of images showing how this assembly will look. Keep in mind these are loosely fitted and "kind of" being held together by tape.

I thought you guys would like to see this. The images are best viewed by clicking on or expanding them.

Below: See the door at the far right corner? I may be opening that up. I had seen someone do that and then light it from behind with what was probably a flickering tealight. It gave the effect of an engine room and it was to good effect.

TB-- here is pic of the windows. On closer inspection the clarity is not too bad. I think the bigger issue is the facets, angles, and ironwork. Replacing all those panes would be a massive and precarious task. I will stick with my plan to make it removeable.

Thanks for the idea though. It was a good one!

 

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 8, 2022 11:36 PM

A screencap taken from the Disney movie and it shows the color they used. Of course, that said, it is up to the builder. Pegasus designed their own version of Nautilus, and that opens the door even more to creative license.

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Posted by keavdog on Monday, May 9, 2022 12:18 AM

Wow she was pretty rusty afterall.   There's an old build thread here a guy did - a resin kit that looked over-rusted, but now...maybe not

Thanks,

John

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Posted by DUSTER on Monday, May 9, 2022 12:20 AM

Bakster

 

I thought you guys would like to see this. The images are best viewed by clicking on or expanding them.

Man that is nice detail and the clarity of the far window even shows Cptn. Nemo's wine storage---Oh, wait. I get it now, that's Your paint bottles--Geesh I was sure fooled there for a moment

 

Seriously, looks like a great model and will be a pleasure to watch your progress.

 

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 9, 2022 8:48 AM

DUSTER
he clarity of the far window even shows Cptn. Nemo's wine storage

Still groggy from the night sleep I thought, "Wine storage? Did I miss something?"  Then I read on. Lol.  You had me there for a sec.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 9, 2022 9:18 AM

keavdog

Wow she was pretty rusty afterall.   There's an old build thread here a guy did - a resin kit that looked over-rusted, but now...maybe not

 

I may have seen that thread, I just don't remember it. 

I watched a resin build on YouTube and that kit is 31 inches long. The model is much more in line to the Disney version. He followed the same rusty appearance. I do like that look, and since there is a basis for it being that way-- I am 98% certain that is how I will go with it too. I watched some clips from the movie and some sections of the interior have mild rust streaking too. That said though... I would not think bad of anyone doing it different. It would be cool to see this boat in copper--or corroded copper, or brass even. 

For anyone interested, here is a link to the 31 inch build I had watched. I like this channel. The guy does good work and I appreciate his sense of humor too! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbPjfHZvt-8 

 

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Posted by dlh on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 10:11 AM

Bakster

 

 
dlh

I'm building this kit now.  Will will be lit with a Voodoo kit.  Right now, I'm pondering what finish the exterior will get.  I've looked at lots of builds and examples online.

Have fun.  I'll be following.

Dave

 

 

 

Hey Dave, thanks for chiming in. What finish are your leaning towards? Like you, I have been looking at other builds. I am leaning towards a rust brown. How far along are you on your build?

 

I've worked on the lighting electronics and begun painting the salon interior.  I'm still undecided about the exterior color. (One of my other hobbies has captured my OCD attention, Ham Radio.)  I'm sort of torn between a rust finish, maybe:

https://www.modernmasters.com/en/landing/homeowners/brands/me

I already have some.  Or one of Vallejo's Metal Colors:

I have those too.

https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/category/hobby/metal-color-en/

I like steel and jet exhaust. I used one of the metal colors on the civillian build of the Hannebau.

 

  Maybe I'll try to use both rust and metal colors. There are a few online builds with nice rust finishes.  I have the hull painted with Vallejo black primer.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 2:27 PM

Hey Dave-- much to comment on here.

1. I don't know if you are aware, but Greg is into Ham Radio as well. You two should talk. If I can help facilitate, let me know.

2. I was looking at the M&M treatments as well. I watched two videos where the builders tried it on their Nautilus builds. The oxidation effects are amazing, though, extreme. The good news is that it is easy to brush off and get the look that you want. You have probably seen those videos. Both builders were less than happy with the outcome, but both admit the error was on their part. In one case the problem boils down to his base colors and his preshading. The other was a case of applying more than one application.

I am on the fence as to whether I will try it.

3. I like your choice in models. I have looked at those UFO kits as well. Nice job on those!

 

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 4:51 PM

Dave those Haunebus are awesome!  I got my ham radio license when I was 13 - WB6PJZ.  Haven't been active in years... like 40 years but I've renewed my license over the years but currently don't have a rig.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 7:18 PM

Glad to see some fellow hams on here!

I got my license 64 years ago- K9LCI-  and intend to renew it if I am still around for its 70th year! 

My interest in ham radio was my springboard into getting an electrical engineering degree, and a decent career that followed.

I have very fond memories of building transmitters and receivers, and all the friends I made in the process.

73, OM!

 

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 9:58 PM

Oh that's soooooooooo cool Bakster! Somehow I missed this! Love how she's going! 

Somehow I'd pictured her as a sorta verdigris green or whatever you call the greenish colour you get when copper or bronze oxidizes. Not sure if that was from the movie or the ride at Disney World. 

Dlh: Oh WOW! Those saucers are so cool too! Love 'em! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 12:11 AM

Gamera
! Somehow I missed this! Love how she's going! 

Glad you found it. Was beginning to think I was banished to the forbidden zone. Lol.

Gamera
Somehow I'd pictured her as a sorta verdigris green or whatever you call the greenish colour you get when copper or bronze oxidizes. Not sure if that was from the movie or the ride at Disney World. 

Not sure where you saw that but it sounds good to me as a viable option.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 12:18 AM

Back in my day I'd have to learn morse code to get a ham radio license. Or, so I thought so. I hear they no longer require that  So, at that time, I had a CB base station. Not as cool as ham, but I did have fun. Much to my families chagrin it messed up the TV signal when I keyed the mic. 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 2:33 AM

Bakster, enjoying the insight into build process for this model, as well as the sneak peak into early fitting. Smile

DLH, thanks for sharing the link to MM.  Their oxidation effects are impressive.  Also, excellent choice in reading materials.  Orson Scott Card's "Speaker for the Dead" was a very good follow up to "Ender's game". 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 9:21 AM

PhoenixG
Bakster, enjoying the insight into build process for this model, as well as the sneak peak into early fitting.

Sounds good!

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 6:25 PM

Bakster, yes, way back in those days you had to pass a profiency test in sending and receiving morse code, as well as a written test on electronics as applied to ham radio.  I remember my Dad driving me and a friend to a federal building in Chicago to take those tests way back in the 1950's. Needless to say, we were both quite apprehensive, but we both passed the exams and got our ham licenses.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 8:13 PM

Cadet Chuck

Bakster, yes, way back in those days you had to pass a profiency test in sending and receiving morse code, as well as a written test on electronics as applied to ham radio.  I remember my Dad driving me and a friend to a federal building in Chicago to take those tests way back in the 1950's. Needless to say, we were both quite apprehensive, but we both passed the exams and got our ham licenses.

 

Then my memory hasn't failed me. Hats off to you for going through that and passing! That is pretty cool. Why do you suppose they had such criteria for Ham Radio? They treated it as serious business. 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 8:48 PM

I started work on the bulkhead door. Drawing from what I learned in the Bullion Express build, I set out to cast a door.

The frame made from styrene, the clay is Sculpey.

The mold compound is Smooth-On. 



Casted using Smooth Cast 300.



Both the mold compound and resin are leftover and several months old. Fortunately, it was still useable.

Next step is to remove the door from both the resin and the kit piece. Then, I need to  fashion the resin door so that it has two sides to it. Thus, two casts. After that, it's a matter of mounting it in an open position.

I need to start collecting paint I will need for the interior. A trip to HobbyTown is in the offing.

And that is where I am at.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 9:04 PM

Coolness!!! 

Glad you learned a lot about casting from the gold truck. Still crossing my fingers you'll be ready to get back to her one day! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 9:11 PM

Still crossing my fingers you'll be ready to get back to her one day! 

Keep them crossed, I will need the encouragement!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 10:32 PM

OMG, my brain completely overlooked that the Bullion Express resin casting project was yours!  I stumbled across it a little while back and read the whole thread to learn about your experiences.  It is such an informative post.  I've been greatly enjoying following your work on it.

Great to see how your efforts there have paid off here. YesGeeked

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, May 12, 2022 2:25 AM

Bakster-  Yes, it was serious business.  Way back before WWII, the government considered it a vital means of emergency communications in case the usual channels were shut down during an attack.  Morse code can be used under high noise and low signal strength conditions that would render voice communication impossible.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 12, 2022 9:44 AM

Cadet Chuck

Bakster-  Yes, it was serious business.  Way back before WWII, the government considered it a vital means of emergency communications in case the usual channels were shut down during an attack.  Morse code can be used under high noise and low signal strength conditions that would render voice communication impossible.

 

Hey Chuck-- Now I understand! That is very cool to know, I always wondered what the deal was. Thanks for educating me! 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:31 AM

 

Just signing on after a road trip, I am so happy to find this thread. Nothng quite like a Bakster WIP to keep things lively around here! Looking forward to it, and at first glance, that interior is nicely detailed as it is, should be fun to see what you do with it.

Interested to see some familiar names here are hams, active or not. I'm a new one, and not really very active.

K9GCR

-Greg

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:42 AM

PhoenixG
OMG, my brain completely overlooked that the Bullion Express resin casting project was yours! 

Yup-- that was me. Confused

PhoenixG
I stumbled across it a little while back and read the whole thread to learn about your experiences.  It is such an informative post.  I've been greatly enjoying following your work on it.

Glad you benefited from it! I have said it before, that is why I detail the good, the bad, and the ugly. We all learn from it!  And let me tell you--that was a struggle learning that. In the end, I learned a new skill, and I have a pressure pot taboot!

I cast the door in my last post using the PP. I'd probably be fighting bubbles without the pot. Though, this cast was an much easier mold and cast. So, maybe, bubbles would not have been an issue. Hard to know without trying, but the PP almost guarantees a good cast. I am glad I have it because it will continue to pay dividends. 

Btw, I will share an oops. The resin I have has a 3-minute pot time. The clock starts ticking the second you pour part A and part B together. You then have to mix it quick and thoroughly. That takes maybe 1.5 minutes. That leaves me with 1.5 minutes to put the mold into the PP, position the lid, clamp down the four clamps, and slowly feed air into the pot. It's a race. So, I get the lid secured and I attached the hose. In the rush, I failed to notice that the valve on the lid was in an open position. Guess what happened when I attached the hose? Poof! It was 40lbs pressure into the tank all at once. Well, too late to do anything about it now, so it was a wait and see. 

Later, I released the air, unscrewed the clamps, and lift the lid. Oh boy...the mold is laying on its side. The air shot into the tank with such velocity it blew the mold on its side. And that is how it cured. LOL. But here is the thing. There was enough resin left in the mold that I got a cast out of it. Albeit a very thin cast. Since I must sandwich two together, it should still work. In fact-- because it is so thin, there will be no sanding for that cast. This could be a silver lining. And if I must cast another one - no big deal. 10 minutes work and it's done. Just thought I'd share the latest debacle. 

The next time I order resin from them I will get their 10-minute pot time. 3 minutes is crazy! Indifferent

 

 

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:44 AM

You're most welcome!

Back in my high school days, our radio club participated in many civil defense drills.  We worked with other emergency agencies like the National Guard, Red Cross, Civil Air Patrol, local sheriff and police departments., etc.  We would set up a HQ base in some public building, as well as establishing outdoor field bases in tents, powered by generator sets, and spend a whole Saturday simulating an atomic attack on our area, practicing organizing emergency operations and communications.  There were many people and their portable and fixed radio bases involved.

I really enjoyed it, and it felt good to be doing some community service.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:53 AM

We really should have started a separate thread for this ham radio discussion.  It just grew, starting with a brief comment from someone.  

Sorry, I did not mean to hi-jack this excellent Nautius thread!

Back to the main topic, I built that Nautius recently and gave it an antique finish.  I started with a base of titanium gold, then started working in related colors like copper, green, various shades of rust, really just winging it free-hand and blending in layers of color, even finishing up with some weathering powders.

My wife said this is the best model I ever made, and I tend to agree with her!

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 12, 2022 11:03 AM

Cadet Chuck

You're most welcome!

Back in my high school days, our radio club participated in many civil defense drills.  We worked with other emergency agencies like the National Guard, Red Cross, Civil Air Patrol, local sheriff and police departments., etc.  We would set up a HQ base in some public building, as well as establishing outdoor field bases in tents, powered by generator sets, and spend a whole Saturday simulating an atomic attack on our area, practicing organizing emergency operations and communications.  There were many people and their portable and fixed radio bases involved.

I really enjoyed it, and it felt good to be doing some community service.

 

You know- I envy you. I would have loved to be part of something like that. It would make for a more rewarding life experience. More recent technology has in ways connected people, but it's digitally connected. Is has isolated people at the same time. We are not spending time together and I miss that. Or maybe it's just me getting old. Family members passing, health issues and such. Of course, the covid debacle doesn't help any of this.

Anyway-- thanks for sharing that too. I love hearing life stories like that.

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 12, 2022 11:07 AM

Cadet Chuck
We really should have started a separate thread for this ham radio discussion.  It just grew, starting with a brief comment from someone.  

Hey-- no worries! This is how my WIPs roll and I wouldn't want it any other way. This is what I like about them most-- the banter. 

Cadet Chuck
Back to the main topic, I built that Nautius recently and gave it an antique finish.  I started with a base of titanium gold, then started working in related colors like copper, green, various shades of rust, really just winging it free-hand and blending in layers of color, even finishing up with some weathering powders. My wife said this is the best model I ever made, and I tend to agree with her!

That sounds cool!  You are welcome to post pics here if so inclined. I would love to see it...

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 12, 2022 11:13 AM

Greg
Nothng quite like a Bakster WIP to keep things lively around here!

Cheers!  Drinks

Greg
hat interior is nicely detailed as it is, should be fun to see what you do with it.

Me too! LOL.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 14, 2022 12:43 PM

A rambling Bakster build?  You don't say! Geeked

The use of "public airwaves" is sore complicated.  And government rgulations tend to be followed to the letter, at least until it causes more work for the regulators.

So, the code-key requirements remained.  Were driver's licences done the same way, we would all have had to demostrate how to hitch horses to a wagon, and drive a stick shift. Much as the Master's Certificate at sea ocer required the ability to name all the sails of a fully-rigged ship.

Things change.  Used to be, you needed to pass the VHF radio test to have a ship-to-shore "mobile" communications device for our automobiles.    These exploited a "loophole" in the Radio Operators regs.  Forty years' later we jst walk in the T-mobile store . . .

(Trivia:  "T Mobile" was begun as "Trucker's Mobile" as an alternative to the overloaded 11m CB band for communications on the road.)

One of the complications of getting an (aviation) Pilot's license is needing to get the VHF/UHF radio licensing to operate the radio in the plane.  (A Marine Pilot needs a Master's Certificate, a certain number of years on the given water way, and to pass a detailed test; and needs periodic recertification.)

Back to topic Smile

From memory Verne is under-specific about just what Nautilus is made of.   I believe it probably would have been iron, as that was the material of the age.  That almost suggests a rail-brown sort of color.  A chestnut roan sort of deep color that would be complicated (in an interesting sort of way to model) to render.

Now, the folk of that age were not ignorant cavemen, they new iron would rust.  So, they might have "iron blacked" their submarine.  Which was lampblack and coaloil in a lacquer base.

Thus, it could be a glossy paint sort of finish.  And, of course, gilding would have been a thing.

I want to remember reading about another build, where there was discussion about going "full Verne" and suggesting a paint job that replicated a fish.  Which would be suitable Victorian.  Painting a submarine to resemble a Trout or Salmon would be totally in keeping for the sensibilities of the age.

Imagine an iron trout a couple of hundred feet long chasing one's ship.

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 14, 2022 12:55 PM

I removed the door from the bulkhead and added what is, for a lack of a better term, a door seal. I at first tried to make that using strip styrene but that was a no joy. The styrene was not flexible enough for the tight curves, it would kink. I then used the kit piece as a template and traced the opening onto some scrap resin. Then--drilling some holes into the area to be removed, I began cutting it away. Once I got to a large enough opening-- I glued the piece into the kit piece. Once cured-- I finished the job by trimming, filing, and sanding.

Example I captured:

The door is extracted from the resin cast:

The door is attached. As well--I flowed thin CA onto the door seal to help knock down some of the roughness.

That whole process went well! Perhaps this is a good omen for the build. 

Next, I will sort out the ceiling. I need to decide how I want to accomplish lighting. The ceiling has lattice work, or tiles if you will. Do I cut those all out? It will be a lot of work. Or do I remove the whole lattice panel and replace it with a solid panel? I suppose I could add back make my own lattice, but I am not sure that will save me time.

To be determined.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:16 PM

CapnMac82
A rambling Bakster build?  You don't say!

Laughing. I am guilty as charged!

Thanks for the additional licensing information. That is very interesting to read. And I did not know that about T Mobile! Too funny.

Lastly-- that is some fantastic input about the color. I won't paint it like a fish but I have to say-- that would be cool to see done! Great idea.

Great to hear from you, Capn. You always shine an interesting light on things!

Steve

 

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, May 14, 2022 3:22 PM

Bakster
Cadet Chuck We really should have started a separate thread for this ham radio discussion. It just grew, starting with a brief comment from someone. Hey-- no worries! This is how my WIPs roll and I wouldn't want it any other way. This is what I like about them most-- the banter.

I knew Steve was going to say that, and I was just waiting to comment. I'm with Steve, the banter is a great part of Bak's threads, so please don't stop, Chuck.

Steve, nice hatch so far.

-Greg

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Saturday, May 14, 2022 6:05 PM

OK, Roger that, Greg!  I do enjoy the banter, and humor, too, that went on more in previous years.  Let's bring it back, guys!  It's been kind of dull, lately.....

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Posted by lurch on Saturday, May 14, 2022 7:58 PM

I agree with Chuck. Sometimes we need a good laugh.

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 14, 2022 9:06 PM

Sounds like a plan, guys. Yes

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 14, 2022 9:21 PM

Well, I took the dive and tried opening up the panels. A few hours later and I have the center rows opened up. I think that for lighting sake, that is all I need. I will then make and mount diffusers for them, and behind that, I will make a light box driven by probably two Leds. 

I took a drive to HobbyTown today for paint. The first three colors I wanted they were out of stock on. Son of a. I think I found colors that will work, though. 

I am enjoying the build thus far. It has not been fighting me.

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Posted by lurch on Sunday, May 15, 2022 4:29 AM

This thing is going to be great Backster. I am looking forward to when you finish it.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 15, 2022 9:54 AM


"From memory Verne is under-specific about just what Nautilus is made of.   I believe it probably would have been iron, as that was the material of the age.  That almost suggests a rail-brown sort of color.  A chestnut roan sort of deep color that would be complicated (in an interesting sort of way to model) to render."


Last night I watched 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. It was interesting to see how Disney portrayed the boat, and clearly, it was made to look like iron. For the most part the interior was dank and the walls had signs of rust. They did a nice job with it.

Speaking of the Disney movie, I watched a video on its making. It was interesting to learn that Disney spent millions on its production. Apparently, Walt was a huge Jules Vern fan and he went for broke making the movie. At the time, in the US, it was the most money spent making a movie to date. Had people not come out in droves to see the movie, it may have bankrupted Disney. Interesting to reflect on the what ifs.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 15, 2022 9:54 AM

lurch

This thing is going to be great Backster. I am looking forward to when you finish it.

 

Thanks Lurch!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 15, 2022 11:33 AM

Hmm, had a notion--Humbrol "Track Colour" (aka Rail Brown) overlaid with a deep metalic bronze, and finished with a bit of Clear Green.

Maybe.

Perhaps.

MostlyI was noodling on how one might render both dark and light highlights in such a color scheme.

Deep "mahogany" sorts of metalic colors can be complicated.  "Bronze" ought to highlight gold and shadow "esspreso" (and I would be drawn to a deep blue base to offset the "orange" of the "gold" highlight.

Colors can be compolicated.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 15, 2022 1:08 PM

"Hmm, had a notion--Humbrol "Track Colour" (aka Rail Brown"


Hey Capn, I Googled it and yeah, I agree, that is a good starting point for sure. I like it.

Though, I already purchased Tamiya LP25. Take a look that. It is Darn close to the Humbrol, but maybe tones out just a little more to the brown side. Maybe. Hard to judge from web images because of color shifting. Yeah some dry brushing might help. Mahogany might not be bad and I happened to buy some for the wood bookcases. The bronze is an interesting thought too. 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 15, 2022 1:14 PM

PS: I could buy red to mix with and shift the tone some too. i think I would like somewhere in the middle of the two paints.

Updated: Tamiya LP57 is closer still to the Humbrol. I could see if HT has that. I could mix the two. We shall see.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 16, 2022 9:22 PM

Is it a reclamation center?

No.

A rummage sale?

No.

Is it moving day?

No. 

No. It's just me excited to see paint flying. Mr Surfacer 1500 is applied. This is my second time using the stuff and in my opinion, it is right up there with Tamiyas primer. It came out extremely smooth. I likey.

It is time to paint some color. I think I will start with the couch. It won't be as complex.

Sorry for the mundane, but I warned ya. Embarrassed

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Monday, May 16, 2022 9:50 PM

Priming is premo. ( I had to)

I had a mundane once, had to give it to a shelter. He was eating out of house and home.Confused  Yours seems nice, though.

Steve

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, May 16, 2022 10:00 PM

DUSTER

Priming is premo. ( I had to)

I had a mundane once, had to give it to a shelter. He was eating out of house and home.Confused  Yours seems nice, though.

 

Lol!  Someone with a sence of humor. Well done, sir!

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 17, 2022 8:43 AM

I like the Captain's rail brown suggestion. I should be about the same rusty colour.

I agree with the guys, it's something that you're probably going to have to fiddle with till you get it where you want it. Maybe grab a paint mule old model or three and just start playing around with it/them.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 22, 2022 8:29 PM

 

Almost done with the couch. Had a setback learning the process where I had to strip the piece and start over. The good news is that I nailed it down to my liking, and I will use the process for the interior wood. The bookcases, the organ, and the ceiling panel will all be mahogany. Unfortunately, the images does not translate the subtle detail that I put into the wood grain.

1. Base coat of Vallejo wood.

2. Stippled Vallejo Mahogany.

3. Blended by spraying the same Vallejo Mahogany.

3. Sealed it with MRP Gloss Clear. (My first time using it and it performed well, straight from the bottle.  No thinning and it sprayed on cleanly).

4. Masked the wood and sprayed Alclad Brass followed by MRP Gloss Clear.

 


Next is to mask all but the cushions and spray the color.

End of update.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, May 24, 2022 9:50 PM

The couch is done and there were no major disasters. The masking did its job without pulling paint. Hallelujah.

I used Tamiyia LP series paint for the fabric. LP series for no other reason than I wanted to try their lacquer. It worked well. I wasn't about to do a pull test on this, so I can't say how strong it is. It sprayed very well though.

An LP layer was applied, then a black wash, then another layer of LP to blend the two. After that I dusted Testors Dullcote. And when I say dusted, I mean dusted. I ended the application dusting between 12 and 15 inches away. This produced a soft look mimicking velvet. Again-- the images don't capture it well.

I put a lot of time into this because it is the centerpiece of the salon. 

And that is one piece under my belt, many more to go. Lol.

Later...

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 25, 2022 8:42 PM

Looks awesome to me Bakster! 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, May 26, 2022 2:54 PM

Gamera

Looks awesome to me Bakster! 

 

Thanks Cliff.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, May 27, 2022 12:48 PM

Hey! Bakster!

      I just thought of something. I would be dumb enough to try a Melt Cast using.050 sheet styrene. That's just me.The idea is Clarity . Those are a lot clearer than I expected. Now, is there any way you can polish the panes more? That would work I believe.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, May 27, 2022 3:49 PM

Bakster
I put a lot of time into this because it is the centerpiece of the salon.

And a fine centerpiece it is, too.

The velvet effect is probably truer to Disney, too.  Possibly to Verne, too, as French tastes in upholstery ran that way (the English Victorians were more keen on read dyed leather for "fine" furniture, when they were not using "broadcloth" in elaborately loomed patterns).

The red will be better for drawing the eye in through the windows, too.

Hmm, now the notion of lighting color raises up.  Verne would have presumed gas lighting--which, in the day was a white light with an amber cast, nowhere near as yellow as candle flame (more like the mantle of an oil-fired latnern).  Vern hinted at other-worldly energies, so a blue-white could be appropriate.

The Disney studio lighting was a "pure" sort of white for the movie, so, that case could be made, too.

The tricky part is that gas lighting did not flicker (this was considered a technological improvement).  And "flickering" could be seen as a way to add interest to the model's lighting.  So, I'm torn on which way would "feel" right.

And, it matters as a blue-white LED will give a slight purple cast to the sofa; a warmer white will skew "orange"--but be more "red velvet" to appearance (how my mind wandered into this, actually).

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 27, 2022 4:10 PM

Tanker-Builder

Hey! Bakster!

      I just thought of something. I would be dumb enough to try a Melt Cast using.050 sheet styrene. That's just me.The idea is Clarity . Those are a lot clearer than I expected. Now, is there any way you can polish the panes more? That would work I believe.

 

Hey TB, polishing could be tough. I think the issue is not so much clarity, but more about distortion. Having faceted faces and many at angles to each other distorts what you can see at any given angle. You end up having to jog your head around to see things and some of the panes are so small, forget about it. I am moving forward with the idea that I will have limited viewing BUT, I will make the glass bubble removeable for if a person wants to see things in an unabstructed view.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, May 27, 2022 8:45 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
I put a lot of time into this because it is the centerpiece of the salon.

 

And a fine centerpiece it is, too.

The velvet effect is probably truer to Disney, too.  Possibly to Verne, too, as French tastes in upholstery ran that way (the English Victorians were more keen on read dyed leather for "fine" furniture, when they were not using "broadcloth" in elaborately loomed patterns).

The red will be better for drawing the eye in through the windows, too.

Hmm, now the notion of lighting color raises up.  Verne would have presumed gas lighting--which, in the day was a white light with an amber cast, nowhere near as yellow as candle flame (more like the mantle of an oil-fired latnern).  Vern hinted at other-worldly energies, so a blue-white could be appropriate.

The Disney studio lighting was a "pure" sort of white for the movie, so, that case could be made, too.

The tricky part is that gas lighting did not flicker (this was considered a technological improvement).  And "flickering" could be seen as a way to add interest to the model's lighting.  So, I'm torn on which way would "feel" right.

And, it matters as a blue-white LED will give a slight purple cast to the sofa; a warmer white will skew "orange"--but be more "red velvet" to appearance (how my mind wandered into this, actually).

 

Hey Capn, thanks. And thanks for your input about the material and lighting. I will reflect on this. I will surely experiment with the lighting, and what color will look best. I will test out diffusion as well. Heck.. if want to get really crazy...I could try colored gel diffusers. That might be interesting!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 28, 2022 1:37 PM

Bakster
That might be interesting!

Could be indeed. 

I'm having this rememory that the pipe organ had a distinct violet cast in the studio lighting (this could be an error of memory, though).

Hmm, will we revisit building squid for this one, or find a new pelagic monster? Big Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, May 28, 2022 6:16 PM

I'm having this rememory that the pipe organ had a distinct violet cast in the studio lighting (this could be an error of memory, though).


You may be right. I'd have to check. 

Hmm, will we revisit building squid for this one, or find a new pelagic monster?

I am leaning toward using the one that comes with the model. I am on the fence but leaning to it. Of course, if I do, there may be a twist to it. Wink

 

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Saturday, May 28, 2022 10:18 PM

Bakster

 

 

Hmm, will we revisit building squid for this one, or find a new pelagic monster?

I am leaning toward using the one that comes with the model. I am on the fence but leaning to it. Of course, if I do, there may be a twist to itWink

 

 Of that  I have No  doubt Wink

This is taking off with an artistic/modler bent, good fun.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 29, 2022 2:09 PM

DUSTER

 

 
Bakster

 

 

Hmm, will we revisit building squid for this one, or find a new pelagic monster?

I am leaning toward using the one that comes with the model. I am on the fence but leaning to it. Of course, if I do, there may be a twist to itWink

 

 

 

 Of that  I have No  doubt Wink

This is taking off with an artistic/modler bent, good fun.

 

 

Hey Duster-- glad you are enjoying it! It's all about having some fun!

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 29, 2022 2:29 PM

Some mundane for this weekend...

For all these pieces I followed the same wood painting process noted with the couch. I will add that I used MRP Clear Gloss mixed with several drops of MRP Clear Semi-Matt. I love their paint...it sprays like silk with no thinning and with good coverage.  

I masked the books to keep the basecoat. I wanted the lighter color intact for when I paint the books. Masks are still in place with these images.

Same about the masks.

Capn-- I went with the overall wood scheme on the organ. This is heavily masked and why it looks so gnarly.

 

Next up is to pull the masks and start painting those areas. Maybe tomorrow. We shall see.

Later!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 29, 2022 2:31 PM

The cephalopad saga with te Seaview was fascinating enough, back in the day.

And that was before all the new skills with casting, vaccum pumps and the like.

So. Many. Possiilities. Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, May 29, 2022 3:01 PM

CapnMac82

The cephalopad saga with te Seaview was fascinating enough, back in the day.

And that was before all the new skills with casting, vaccum pumps and the like.

So. Many. Possiilities. Smile

 

That cracks me up, Capn. Thanks for the laugh. Yes

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 2:29 PM

Bakster
I put a lot of time into this because it is the centerpiece of the salon.

Been getting caught up on the last few weeks.  Enjoying seeing all the details going into making the bigger picture.  The couch certainly has earned the role of center piece.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, May 31, 2022 11:35 PM

PhoenixG

 

 
Bakster
I put a lot of time into this because it is the centerpiece of the salon.

 

Been getting caught up on the last few weeks.  Enjoying seeing all the details going into making the bigger picture.  The couch certainly has earned the role of center piece.

 

 

Hey Thanks, Phoenix! Thanks for following and posting too. 

Speaking of possibilities... 

Couldn't this make a cool dio for a time portal? You walk through bookcases and into another time and space. Would be sort of like the Star Trek episode when Spock and McCoy end up in a frozen tundra where Spock falls in love with a woman that was sentenced to go there. Ah the possibilities are endless. 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, June 1, 2022 2:30 PM

Bakster
Speaking of possibilities... Couldn't this make a cool dio for a time portal? You walk through bookcases and into another time and space.

LOL. That got me thinking of the Time Tunnel TV series and what it would look like to have that in Nemo's library.

TTTT2

An interesting mashup of stories. :)

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:36 PM

That's a good one, PhoenixG. And that is another good TV show. Maybe this is how Nemo derives his technology... from the future. Wink

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 2, 2022 10:32 PM

The wood grain looks great! Super work Bakster! 

 

I think I'd take the whole friggin' submarine though time though. Didn't the Seaquest series have something like that? Sorry I watched the first season but the second was so gawdawful I only got about two episodes in and dropped it. 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 2, 2022 10:34 PM

Bakster

 

 
CapnMac82

The cephalopad saga with te Seaview was fascinating enough, back in the day.

And that was before all the new skills with casting, vaccum pumps and the like.

So. Many. Possiilities. Smile

 

 

 

That cracks me up, Capn. Thanks for the laugh. Yes

 

With sea monsters I hope you don't go with a giant sea turtle. 

It would hurt my feelings... Broken Heart

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 2, 2022 11:33 PM

 

"With sea monsters I hope you don't go with a giant sea turtle. 

It would hurt my feelings.."

 

Lol!

(Imagine the out of sync lips)  Gamera is coming! Gamera is coming!

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Posted by Greg on Friday, June 3, 2022 10:18 AM

Couch looks very good, Steve. And so does the wood piece you are working on now.

And good to know MRP clear works ok over the top of Valley-Ho. You saved me some testing, thank you.

-Greg

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 3, 2022 11:44 AM

Greg

Couch looks very good, Steve. And so does the wood piece you are working on now.

And good to know MRP clear works ok over the top of Valley-Ho. You saved me some testing, thank you.

 

Hey Greg-- thanks for the kudos, and it is great to hear from you.

Yes-- there were no issue with the MRP clear!

You have a way of making me want to yammer:

I am having quite the adventure trying to paint the books. My kingdom for a brushable paint that does not streak and look glopped on. In short-- one that looks airbrushed. I have had some success with craft paint but it has to be applied in a heavy coat. Not so good when you are working with small sections that are blocked off. 

Anyway-- last night-- I relented-- and I meticulously masked a section of books, mixed a custom color of Tamiya-- spray a test piece--and what happens?  It was spitting droplets of paint something fierce. I could not believe it. I have never seen this with Tamiya. This is old paint that I am using. Could that be the issue? Was it not thinned enough? Maybe.

Here is the bottom line. Stick a fork in me, I am DONE with acrylic paint. I am tired of the fight. I am going lacquer/maybe enamel only.

And that is my story for today.

 

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Posted by Greg on Friday, June 3, 2022 1:19 PM

Yammering always welcomed.

Bakster
My kingdom for a brushable paint that does not streak and look glopped on

I know you just said you are done with acrylics, but have you tried brush painting with Vallejo Model Color (not Model Air)? What I do is put some distilled water (distilled because of my anal-retentive nature) in the pallet cup next to the drops of paint I'm using, dip the brush in the water, maybe flip it off a little, then dip some Model Color on. Once you do it some, it sort of all falls into place.

No idea about the spurting Tamiya.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, June 3, 2022 3:16 PM

Greg

Yammering always welcomed.

 

 
Bakster
My kingdom for a brushable paint that does not streak and look glopped on

 

I know you just said you are done with acrylics, but have you tried brush painting with Vallejo Model Color (not Model Air)? What I do is put some distilled water (distilled because of my anal-retentive nature) in the pallet cup next to the drops of paint I'm using, dip the brush in the water, maybe flip it off a little, then dip some Model Color on. Once you do it some, it sort of all falls into place.

No idea about the spurting Tamiya.

 

 

Hey there, Greg. No, I have not tried that particular methodology. I will try it. At this point, I have nothing to lose. I would love to find something I can brush well with. 

Regarding the Tamiya. I did notice when I was mixing the two colors that they were not blending well. The paint was streaky. I didn't think their acrylic had a shelf life but maybe it does. The paint is probably 5 years old. It looked ok though. It was not clumpy or anything along those lines. 

I went to HobbyTown today and purchased the colors I need in Tamiyas LP lacquer offering. I have heard good reports about this paint. The one time that I tried it, it went well. Famous last words! It always works well until IT DOESNT! Lol.

Again... if I could get all the colors I need in MRP brand I would be set. The paint works well straight from the bottle. It is the cleanest spraying paint I have ever used, and the results are awesome.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 4, 2022 5:20 PM

One is down. This is slow work. I will be glad once I am past the bookcases. 

The book bindings are sprayed with Tamiya LP series red and brown. The open book is sprayed with MRP white. Both are top coated with Testors Dullcote, and both had a wash applied.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 4, 2022 11:05 PM

The results look to justify the effort.  Everything looks sharp and clean on the writing desk.  Has me believing there is text on those pages. :)

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 5, 2022 11:33 AM

PhoenixG

The results look to justify the effort.  Everything looks sharp and clean on the writing desk.  Has me believing there is text on those pages. :)

 

Hey thanks, PhoenixG.

"Has me believing there is text on those pages."

If you read the text you'll find Nemo's notes about sea creatures and harvesting food from the ocean floor. Wink

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, June 5, 2022 8:22 PM

Desk looks great to me! 

I do most of my handbrushing of figures etc with Vallejo Model Color. I rarely use anything but acrylics- frankly I've gotten to hate enamel and other sorts of paints. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 6, 2022 9:52 AM

Thanks, Cliff! 

"I do most of my handbrushing of figures etc with Vallejo Model Color. I rarely use anything but acrylics- frankly I've gotten to hate enamel and other sorts of paints."


Interesting! I am going the opposite way. Maybe in time I will flip back. If I do it might be the fuming that makes it so. But for now, I am loving the simplicity of lacquer. 

Update: when I say simplicity, I mean with airbrushing.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 6, 2022 10:01 AM

"I know you just said you are done with acrylics, but have you tried brush painting with Vallejo Model Color (not Model Air)? What I do is put some distilled water (distilled because of my anal-retentive nature) in the pallet cup next to the drops of paint I'm using, dip the brush in the water, maybe flip it off a little, then dip some Model Color on. Once you do it some, it sort of all falls into place."


Hi Greg, I tried your method last night and I am sorry to report I couldnt get the results you do. The paint either went on too watery, or if I cut back on the water brush soak, too thick. In the case of watery, terrible coverage. In the case of too thick, I get streaky coverage until the paint starts setting and then it really goes south after that. It's like you have to lay it fast then stop messing with it. Problem is... I have to mess with it because it's too thick and coverage is not even.

I don't know. I just can't get it to work. I wish I could.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 6, 2022 10:18 AM

Btw. I recall GMorrison posting a few times on this subject and he states you have to apply thin layers and build the coverage. Seeing how these paints react for me, that make sence to me. Kind of sounds like a pain, but so is masking. The problem I see is getting smooth layers. How do you get thin layers without the paint clumping and or balling up. Paint retarder maybe?  Flow improver? Problem with that, with Vallejo, adding that stuff extends an already long cure time to almost rediculous. And you'd want to wait for the paint to cure before adding each layer, I would think. Or the subsequent layer could start pulling up. Maybe Bill will chime in.

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:11 PM

hey steve , finally found you . I can't help with the hand painting , I mostly airbrush , but everything you've done looks great .

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, June 11, 2022 7:11 PM

Bakster
The problem I see is getting smooth layers. How do you get thin layers without the paint clumping and or balling up. Paint retarder maybe? Flow improver? Problem with that, with Vallejo, adding that stuff extends an already long cure time to almost rediculous. And you'd want to wait for the paint to cure before adding each layer, I would think. Or the subsequent layer could start pulling up.

It is possible to get smooth layers, but I don't like using flow improver or airbrush thinner when brushing MC as it softens/dissolves the underlying layer of paint on me.

For me it's method plus paint prep.  It took a couple of models with lumpy paint for me to figure it out.  Don't want to bloat this with a post on personal painting methods.  If there's interest just let me know and can send a PM.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:33 AM

steve5

hey steve , finally found you . I can't help with the hand painting , I mostly airbrush , but everything you've done looks great .

 

Hey Steve, thanks for looking in and posting. No worries about the hand painting.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:37 AM

PhoenixG

 

 
Bakster
The problem I see is getting smooth layers. How do you get thin layers without the paint clumping and or balling up. Paint retarder maybe? Flow improver? Problem with that, with Vallejo, adding that stuff extends an already long cure time to almost rediculous. And you'd want to wait for the paint to cure before adding each layer, I would think. Or the subsequent layer could start pulling up.

 

It is possible to get smooth layers, but I don't like using flow improver or airbrush thinner when brushing MC as it softens/dissolves the underlying layer of paint on me.

For me it's method plus paint prep.  It took a couple of models with lumpy paint for me to figure it out.  Don't want to bloat this with a post on personal painting methods.  If there's interest just let me know and can send a PM.

 

 

Phoenix, I am always interested in learning. Unfortunately, the PM function is still not working for me. I tell you what. I will start a thread in the painting section. Look for it there and you can share your process.

Thanks in advance?

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 12, 2022 8:44 PM

The bookcase assemblies are not done but the worst is over with. With all the meticulous masking I did on the books, that is about 1.5 weeks of work. Hence why I would have loved to hand brush it. In the case of the latter, it would have been done in one to two nights work.

Anyhow-- it's been a while since I posted an update. So, here is image

Next up I need to paint the white portions an iron. That should be easy compared to what I just did. That is, barring any Gremlins rearing their ugly faces.

Steve

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 12, 2022 8:48 PM

I forgot to note: The books are painted with Tamiya LP series lacquer. Stinky stuff but it sprays well, dries fast, and seems to have good adhesion. I was masking over it shortly after painting. I top coated using Testors Dullcote.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, June 12, 2022 8:51 PM

Bakster
Phoenix, I am always interested in learning. Unfortunately, the PM function is still not working for me. I tell you what. I will start a thread in the painting section. Look for it there and you can share your process. Thanks in advance?

Bakster,

I haven't used PM in months and just discovered it doesn't work for me either.  Found your other thread and just finished a War & Peace post in it.  If I'm lucky there's something useful in it.  Big Smile

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, June 12, 2022 8:53 PM

The book cases turned out fantastic.  Your masking job was superb!

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 12, 2022 8:53 PM

PhoenixG

 

 
Bakster
Phoenix, I am always interested in learning. Unfortunately, the PM function is still not working for me. I tell you what. I will start a thread in the painting section. Look for it there and you can share your process. Thanks in advance?

 

Bakster,

I haven't used PM in months and just discovered it doesn't work for me either.  Found your other thread and just finished a War & Peace post in it.  If I'm lucky there's something useful in it.  Big Smile

 

Cool! I will check it out asap!

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 12, 2022 8:54 PM

PhoenixG

The book cases turned out fantastic.  Your masking job was superb!

 

Thanks!!!

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Posted by DUSTER on Sunday, June 12, 2022 11:03 PM

Bakster

The bookcase assemblies are not done but the worst is over with. With all the meticulous masking I did on the books, that is about 1.5 weeks of work. 

Steve

 

Very good work on the books. They look like a first class library now. Toast

Oh, Bye the bye, the 3d book on the second left hand shelf is out of order with the 4th book but most folks likely will not notice, I also suppose you're waiting to add the gold leaf titles ‘til laterClown

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 13, 2022 12:19 AM

DUSTER

 

 
Bakster

The bookcase assemblies are not done but the worst is over with. With all the meticulous masking I did on the books, that is about 1.5 weeks of work. 

Steve

 

 

 

Very good work on the books. They look like a first class library now. Toast

Oh, Bye the bye, the 3d book on the second left hand shelf is out of order with the 4th book but most folks likely will not notice, I also suppose you're waiting to add the gold leaf titles ‘til laterClown
 

Hey that is funny about the gold leaf! Now because of your joke, I have to give the extended version of my post.

What I left out is the journey I took on this. My initial attempt was to mask. I began that process but I quickly realized it was going to be much more work than I wanted. That set me on the path of hand painting. I experimented with everything I could think of, including artist oils. They all flopped for me. So, I set out to start masking again. Once again, I decided that this is ridiculously time consuming, and I questioned if it was worth the effort. I stopped to consider my options.

Then it hit me. How would it be if I made decals? On one hand I liked the idea, on the other hand it would be a lot of work as well. From making the graphics, to printing, to sealing, to fitting, to installing. I hated the idea of all that but then I hit on the idea of making the books in blocks of color, rather than each book being different. That would simplify it.

I headed to Hobbylobby to buy some decal film. I made the graphics, printed, sealed, cut, and applied one. It looked like garbage! The problem? The decal film they sell is thick and it does not conform. The end result was like I slapped plastic onto the books and it wiped out the binding detail. It made it look like it was one big book. I scrapped the idea.

Going with a decal might have worked if I had ordered better decal film. I used some on my Icarus build that might have worked better. I can't remember the brand, I'd have to look that up. And if it did... then I could have added more detai to the binding. At this scale, the writing would not be legible. None the less, it could make for a nice illusion of being there. Maybe another model, maybe another time.

So, it was back to masking. I had to stop my complaining and just do it. Too much work or not. And that is the uncut version.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, June 13, 2022 9:48 PM

Looks great to me Bakster!!! 

 

When hand brushing Vallejo paint I squirt a little on a piece of plastic like a fast food container and then add a little thinner. The thinner is about 50/50 water and Future with a few drops of retarder added. I mix the two using a toothpick. As the paint dries out I add a little more thinner. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Tuesday, June 14, 2022 3:15 PM

Bakster, I would never doubt your commitment to creating, in this case, the book covers.  

I would agree, a thinner decal film would no doubt have been more effective. But regardless, the work you have accomplished is outstanding and no quibbling from this peanut gallery will change that.

Bow Down Again, well done and  I’m looking forward to the next installment.

 

Steve

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:38 PM

DUSTER

Bakster, I would never doubt your commitment to creating, in this case, the book covers.  

I would agree, a thinner decal film would no doubt have been more effective. But regardless, the work you have accomplished is outstanding and no quibbling from this peanut gallery will change that.

Bow Down Again, well done and  I’m looking forward to the next installment.

 

 

Thanks , Duster. You are too kind sir.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:39 PM

Thanks, Gam.  Thanks for the brush painting tip too..

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 8:18 AM

Steve!

     On Which? I like that you have all the books well set and shelved in the Library, Observation Parlor. "Now, Dear Sir, on which Shelf and which side will I find the Great Verne Novel?"" You know the one about that strange inventor and His Strange  underwater craft?" "Pure Balderdash I say:! "No one can make an Iron Boat go Underwater and come to the Surface too! " "Purely Preposterous, I Say"

       See! Darn it,You are doing such a great job you've put me in the Mood!

     

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 12:45 PM

Technical difficulties.  See next post.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 12:47 PM

Hey TB, I think the Verne novel is the open book below. He displays it for guests so that they can marvel at his prowess. 

 



See! Darn it,You are doing such a great job you've put me in the Mood!

I have been told that before, that I put people in a mood. Stick out tongue

Thanks for chiming in there, TB! 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 5:02 PM

Books are hard to render realistically.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 7:58 PM

Looks fantastic to me Bakster. 

Did you try maybe putting a teeny bit of wash in the gap between the book spines to deepen the shadows there? It's the only thing I'd suggest. 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 8:45 PM

Did you try maybe putting a teeny bit of wash in the gap between the book spines to deepen the shadows there? It's the only thing I'd suggest. 


Hi Gam, actually I did that on one section. I applied too much and it dirtied them down too much, but that is my fault. A little bit as you suggest is the better plan. I will do that at some point.

Thanks brother!

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 15, 2022 8:58 PM

CapnMac82

Books are hard to render realistically.

 

Indeed.

My goal at this scale is to make it as clean as I can. By that I mean, masked well, and painted to scale. Because in the end, I just want to create a mood of realism...not to make complete realism. You won't see all the detail either way. But...you WILL probably see wavy lines and thick clumpy paint. The latter, for me, kills the mood of realism. 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:01 PM

my god , that's fantastic steve , and I thought rigging ship's was fiddly . Indifferent

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:04 AM

steve5

my god , that's fantastic steve , and I thought rigging ship's was fiddly . Indifferent

 

Hey thanks Mate!

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 20, 2022 7:01 PM

Making forward progress.

 

1. The bulkhead is a mix of three colors, all Tamiya LP series paint. I used two grays and third is a sort of rust. I then applied a wash, dry brushed more rust, and even a colored pencil came into the picture. A final seal of MRP clear being a mix of flat and gloss. The overall muddle of color is in keeping with the Disney prop. The sub was quite dank.

2. The pipes sprayed with Alclad brass, then a wash, then a clear. Again-- the Disney prop was dark and dank. My version is clean in comparison. I am not shooting for exact. On this I wanted to keep it somewhat clean. The wash helped tone down the Alcad brightness.

Not assembled but for a sneak peek I positioned these. Having only the center rows opened in the ceiling will create interesting lighting effects.

I have two things left to paint with the interior and that is the pipe organ chair cushion and the globe with stand. I am tossing around converting the globe to something else. Maybe a crystal or something. Heck -- I could even light it. Not sure. Open to ideas...

I plan to make a rug as well. I have seen other builds do that and to good effect.

Thats all for now.

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, June 20, 2022 9:51 PM

Fantastic job of making it subtle.  The hints of rust on the walls reinforces the idea the study is in a sea going vessel.  It creates an interesting contrast between the richness  of the wood colors and utility of the steel walls.  Hints of the comfort of home with the subconcious reminder you haven't left the confines of the ship.  Amazing work!  YesYes

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Posted by DUSTER on Monday, June 20, 2022 11:00 PM

Wornderful use of color to create mood. Besides Disneys movie was a long time ago so the color from it isn't really real anymore WinkPropeller

Steve

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 12:02 PM

PhoenixG
The hints of rust on the walls reinforces the idea the study is in a sea going vessel.  It creates an interesting contrast between the richness  of the wood colors and utility of the steel walls.  Hints of the comfort of home with the subconcious reminder you haven't left the confines of the ship.

You nailed it. Well said and I could not agree more.

Thanks!!

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 12:03 PM

DUSTER
Wornderful use of color to create mood.

Mood is the goal!  

DUSTER
Besides Disneys movie was a long time ago so the color from it isn't really real anymore

True!

 

Thanks Duster! 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 8:08 PM

Coming along fantastically Bakster! Yes

 

So does this Nemo get a cool sea lion pet like the Disney movie??? 

 

No????

That makes me depressed...

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:37 PM

Gamera

Coming along fantastically Bakster! Yes

 

So does this Nemo get a cool sea lion pet like the Disney movie??? 

 

No????

That makes me depressed...

 

Lol.  Good one, Gam! 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:57 PM

The organ is done. This is bad news because Nemo is playing it. Not a good sound... let me tell ya. He should stick to making seaweed soup. 

Anyhow, not much to say. As you know the wood was Vallejo. The seat cushion is Tamiya LP series red, the keys are MRP white. Keys are sealed with MRP gloss and the cushion MRP matt. 

Side note: I like MRP varnishes. The stuff is very durable.

Update: I forgot to mention I used a wash on the keys to make them stand out.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 1:41 PM

That looks fantastic Bakster! I expanded the image on my phone and it looks great even magnified!

 

BTW: I think Nemo's playing is what enraged the giant squid into attacking. Sammy the Seasick Sea Lion told me he wished Nemo had invented the record player instead of the submarine.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 5:03 PM

"That looks fantastic Bakster! I expanded the image on my phone and it looks great even magnified!"

Thanks, Brother Gam. Next up, I think the Persian rug. 

BTW: I think Nemo's playing is what enraged the giant squid into attacking. Sammy the Seasick Sea Lion told me he wished Nemo had invented the record player instead of the submarine.


Lol.  I don't doubt that. His playing enrages me too! I might have to scuttle the boat.

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, June 23, 2022 12:26 AM

LOL, that's some great banter.

The Nemo's study is coming together nicely.

I think your idea to internally light the globe is great.  No idea how you would do it but I think it would be a cool effect. 

Can put a red dot on it to show where the Nautilus is. ;)

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 23, 2022 1:02 AM

Thanks, Phoenix G.

PhoenixG
think your idea to internally light the globe is great.  No idea how you would do it but I think it would be a cool effect

You know...as of tonight, I gave up on the idea. The main reason is I cant find what I am looking for. I need a clear pea size spherical piece. 

I went to HobbyLobby tonight and looked through their stuff, mostly beads and such, and I cant quite find what I am looking for. I know it's out there somewhere. Imagine giftshops that have pewter figurines of wizards holding crystal balls and such. I want something like those crystals.They are sourcing them from somewhere, so I know it's out there. Anyhow, your encouragement has me thinking to try harder.

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Thursday, June 23, 2022 4:59 AM

Just riffing an idea here, but have you considered making a mold of the kit's globe and casting it in clear resin? 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:52 AM

KnightTemplar5150

Just riffing an idea here, but have you considered making a mold of the kit's globe and casting it in clear resin? 

 

After my last post I searched the net finding that womens earings can come close to what I want, but not exactly. Most all of them are faceted, and I don't want that. Maybe if I keep searching it will present itself but I once again find myself saying, this is not worth the effort. I like the idea of doing the lighted crystal, but I don't love the idea. And that is why I quit so easily.

KT-- your suggestion is a good one. That might get me exactly what I want, and I am pretty sure I have everything I need to do it. That will be one tiny tiny mold. Lol. The not loving my idea part keeps nagging at me but your idea adds an element of enticement. It becomes, can I pull it off, and how will that pull it off look like? It would be a new casting challenge.

Long story short, great idea KT, and I will chew on it. Thanks for your input!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, June 23, 2022 3:28 PM

KnightTemplar5150
and casting it in clear resin?

That sounds outstanding.  Casting an LED inside would skip a strp, too.

Mind, an image like this to decal the thing might be mete, too.

 

OR:

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, June 23, 2022 3:31 PM

Gamera
I think Nemo's playing is what enraged the giant squid into attacking.

If he would just lay off the Bach in Minor keys . . .Big Smile

Maybe some ELP, or, perhaps a spry Polka!

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 23, 2022 5:15 PM

CapnMac82
a spry Polka! Add Quot

Nothing like a polka to get a boat rockin. You know what they say: If  this boat is a rockin, don't come a knockin.

Wink

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 23, 2022 5:18 PM

CapnMac82
That sounds outstanding.

Dang it, Capn. Now ya done it. Ya done enabled my obsession.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, June 25, 2022 11:17 AM

Bakster
Ya done enabled my obsession.

Best image search result I found was "globe skin" as there are any number of build-ti-yourself globe kits to "crib" off of.

Although, this is getting down to needing a microscope (like a Pontos 1/700 PE set)

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, June 25, 2022 11:59 AM

Thanks, Capn. I think I will try casting clear resin from the kit piece and modify from there.

And another rabbit hole we shall go...

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Posted by Back to the bench on Saturday, June 25, 2022 10:50 PM

Late to the party and what a neat project!
Don't know if this would help but these showed up on a search...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/400979383636

I am guessing at "pea size", it taxes my pea brain. These would have a pre-drilled hole that one of the micro LEDs might fit in, maybe secured with some UV cure acrylic cement. Perhaps the frosted finish might diffuse light effectively. I suspect other sizes are available as well. They showed up using "round clear acrylic beads" as a search term.A global search you might say (or not).

Sorry for the spam if this is not useful and give my regards to Captain Nemo and crew.

Gil

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 26, 2022 9:04 AM

Back to the bench

Late to the party and what a neat project!
Don't know if this would help but these showed up on a search...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/400979383636

I am guessing at "pea size", it taxes my pea brain. These would have a pre-drilled hole that one of the micro LEDs might fit in, maybe secured with some UV cure acrylic cement. Perhaps the frosted finish might diffuse light effectively. I suspect other sizes are available as well. They showed up using "round clear acrylic beads" as a search term.A global search you might say (or not).

Sorry for the spam if this is not useful and give my regards to Captain Nemo and crew.

 

Hey Gil-- it is great to hear from you! I have not seen you around the forums of late and I hope all is well in your world.

Thanks for the link! What you found is pretty darn close to what I am looking for. I think the size is right in there and you could be right about the frosted finish effect. I will keep this in mind for if my casting flops. Which, I have started making the mold. I poured the first half yesterday and so far so good.

Currently, my plan is to pipe light into the crystal using a tube of sorts. I am also flirting with using fiber optic. I don't want the crystal blazing with light but my guess is, fiber optic will go the other way and not produce enough. I could be wrong though, and I won't know until I try it.

Anyhow, as usual, I am blabbering.

Nemo sends his greetings to you. He said to tell you he can use another deckhand. So, if you enjoy sinking ships, fighting octopuses, eating seaweed soup, and exploring the ocean depths... then this is a job for you. Indifferent

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:24 PM

 

The carpet, couch, organ, and shown bookcases are installed.

About the carpet: I captured an image off the net, and followed that with some digital cleanup using photo software. The image is then printed to decal paper and sealed with lacquer.

I didn't want to apply the decal direct to the floor because too much of the floor relief might show trough. Though well-worn carpets can show underlying relief, I felt this would be too extreme. That said, I applied the decal to Evergreen .005 clear styrene. There is no real reason for using this styrene other than it is thin and it is the closest to scale that I could come with. Then the decal was sealed with MRP matt.

I used tacky glue to secure the carpet to the floor. The tacky glue smells and looks suspiciously like Elmers. I hope the stuff holds.

Lastly-- I just finished pouring the second half of the rubber mold material. Fingers crossed. 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, June 27, 2022 2:50 AM

Everything looks like it just belongs there.  Exceptional job bringing it all together like that. Yes

I'm pretty sure you must have been Nemo's interior designer in a past life.  Big Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 27, 2022 9:27 AM

Thanks PhoenixG. Sadly the camera is skewing the colors some on the whole assembly. Grays look black and red looks pink.


I'm pretty sure you must have been Nemo's interior designer in a past life.

The big helper is MR Seal. You know the one? It's the seal Gamera was chiming about. Mr seal has an eye for it. I mean literally, one eye. The other eye was put out by a shark.

So, any wonkyness to this assembly is Mr Seals fault. Lol. Stick out tongue

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Posted by Back to the bench on Monday, June 27, 2022 11:35 AM

Bakster

 

 
Back to the bench

Late to the party and what a neat project!
Don't know if this would help but these showed up on a search...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/400979383636

I am guessing at "pea size", it taxes my pea brain. These would have a pre-drilled hole that one of the micro LEDs might fit in, maybe secured with some UV cure acrylic cement. Perhaps the frosted finish might diffuse light effectively. I suspect other sizes are available as well. They showed up using "round clear acrylic beads" as a search term.A global search you might say (or not).

Sorry for the spam if this is not useful  

Hey Gil-- it is great to hear from you! I have not seen you around the forums of late and I hope all is well in your world.

Thanks for the link! What you found is pretty darn close to what I am looking for. I think the size is right in there and you could be right about the frosted finish effect. I will keep this in mind for if my casting flops. Which, I have started making the mold. I poured the first half yesterday and so far so good.

Currently, my plan is to pipe light into the crystal using a tube of sorts. I am also flirting with using fiber optic. I don't want the crystal blazing with light but my guess is, fiber optic will go the other way and not produce enough. I could be wrong though, and I won't know until I try it.

Anyhow, as usual, I am blabbering.

Nemo sends his greetings to you. He said to tell you he can use another deckhand. So, if you enjoy sinking ships, fighting octopuses, eating seaweed soup, and exploring the ocean depths... then this is a job for you. Indifferent

 

Thanks Bakster, things have just been very busy (mostly good stuff though) and we have been out of town some as well. As always life often interferes with hobbies. Your project is looking awesome and your ideas for fiber optic lighting are great. Hope your casting endevour goes well. It's always way more rewarding to making your own parts and so much more is learned in the process.

I have for a long time had the idea of some day incorporating one of these in some type of Nautilus build. They are available in a variety of sizes. A hidden servo for operation and some music from the movie would be fun to integrate into the scene...

https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Aperture-Diaphragm-1-5-25mm-Microscope/dp/B0829QVLY4/ref=asc_df_B0829QVLY4/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475739861994&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=415878556445147766&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1021054&hvtargid=pla-1073251816950&psc=1

This is one of the many ideas that will likely languish in the back of my mind until the neurons finally quit flickering lol.

Nemo's offer of adventures on (or under) the high seas sounds tantalizing. As a landlubber who grew up in the high desert my qualifications are strong in the human ballast or human anchor area.

 

Gil

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 9:31 AM

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I have for a long time had the idea of some day incorporating one of these in some type of Nautilus build. They are available in a variety of sizes. A hidden servo for operation and some music from the movie would be fun to integrate into the scene... https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Aperture-Diaphragm-1-5-25mm-Microscope/dp/B0829QVLY4/ref=asc_df_B0829QVLY4/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475739861994&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=415878556445147766&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1021054&hvtargid=pla-1073251816950&psc=1 This is one of the many ideas that will likely languish in the back of my mind until the neurons finally quit flickering lol.

 

I like it! That would be so cool to do. 

 

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Nemo's offer of adventures on (or under) the high seas sounds tantalizing. As a landlubber who grew up in the high desert my qualifications are strong in the human ballast or human anchor area.

LOL. It IS a tantalizing offer isn't it. I forgot to mention the nugget of being able to work for a tyranicle genius.  

I will soft-pedal your decline for emplyment. Nemo doesn't understand things like this. He thinks everyone is jumping at the chance. Don't tell him I said so. Wink

I'll tell him you are currently indisposed. Yes

 

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 1:41 PM

For some reason, I lost track of this entertaining thread, it looks like since June 6. Not quite sure what happened.

Backtracking (a lot).....

Steve, on your further questions about brush painting Vallejo Model Color, ironically I've been doing some (uh, trying to) lately and having much the same trouble as you. Messing with it, and will address your question if I figure anything out.

Much great progress since I lost track. Really nice work on various interior details. Yes

Almost every comment I typed about the organ came out so wrong on so many levels. It looks great and I really like it. There, that's it, that worked. Just gotta keep the adjective "your" out of the sentence, and all is well.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 8:25 PM

Steve, on your further questions about brush painting Vallejo Model Color, ironically I've been doing some (uh, trying to) lately and having much the same trouble as you. Messing with it, and will address your question if I figure anything out.

Please do.

Almost every comment I typed about the organ came out so wrong on so many levels. It looks great and I really like it. There, that's it, that worked. Just gotta keep the adjective "your" out of the sentence, and all is well.

Lol.

And my every rebuttal puts me in danger of sensorship. So, I will just say, thank you.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, June 28, 2022 9:11 PM

PS: The mold is done and the cast sits in my pressure pot waiting for a full cure. The resin I have takes a good 48 hours where I would trust to demold it. So, I am in a hold pattern. In the meantime, and for conversation sake, I am doing something I don't do well. And that is, I started work on another model. I don't do two models at a time very well.

 



I found a build video on this model and it peaked my interest. What I like about this kit is its size. It's small enough to display easily, and yet, it is just big enough to appreciate some detail. As well, I hear it is fairly accurate to the movie prop.

As a kid both my brother and I built several Enterprise kits. Much fun was had with them. Those were larger kits. This kit would have been perfect for a child's hands.

This kit boils down to basic build skills. I will paint it and such, but pretty much OOTB. And that suits me fine. I have no interest in lighting it. I just want a nice clean build that I can display.

So, build skills it will take. From what I have learned there are large gaps and some poor fits. A review of the sprues reveal a fair amount of flash, as well. I also just learned that the instruction sheet has an error with the upper dome. The kit allows a person to build the pilot episode ship or the production model. The instructions give the wrong details on which to use. Fortunately, I learned this before I made that crucial mistake.

I started work on the saucer and I had to glue and clamp. There is some warpage between the two clams. It is nothing that patience, clamps, and glue can't fix. 

Anyhow, I am enjoying the start of it.

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, June 29, 2022 5:14 PM

Hmmmm;

     I wonder. Could I make my Living Room resemble that? That has turned into some DO NOT HIDE type of work!!

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 29, 2022 9:34 PM

Tanker-Builder
Could I make my Living Room resemble that?

 Smile Same for my home.

Tanker-Builder
That has turned into some DO NOT HIDE type of work!!

Thanks for the kind words TB.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, June 29, 2022 9:39 PM

The cast came out great. I am still not in love with the idea. We shall see.

I used a dab of Tamiya Clear Blue to color the resin. I was not sure how that might react with the resin but it seems fine.

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, June 30, 2022 6:20 AM

Bakster

I am doing something I don't do well. And that is, I started work on another model. I don't do two models at a time very well.

 


Either do I. Do pass on any observations to make it work.

Bakster
I will paint it and such, but pretty much OOTB. And that suits me fine. I have no interest in lighting it. I just want a nice clean build that I can display.

Uh huh. Seems like I've heard that one before. Devil

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 30, 2022 7:45 AM

Greg
h huh. Seems like I've heard that one before

Lol. Yup. 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, June 30, 2022 7:51 AM

The little globe (looks like Saturn to me) looks awesome!!!

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:48 AM

Greg

The little globe (looks like Saturn to me) looks awesome!!!

 

Now there is an idea. Maybe I should portray it as Saturn? Hmm. I am gonna give that some thought.

Glad you likey! I am still lukewarm about the thing. I need to park it in a stall that speaks to me. Then I will be happy about it. Lol

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 30, 2022 9:14 AM

Bakster
The little globe (looks like Saturn to me) looks awesome!!!   Now there is an idea. Maybe I should portray it as Saturn? Hmm. I am gonna give that some thought.

Hey Greg-- check this link out. For grins I did some searches on Saturn. Look what I found. The color almost matches even. The rings should be longer but hey-- Nemo is looking through an optical telescope of the day. Wink

https://www.amazon.com/Engraved-Miniatured-Birthday-Astronomy-Decorations/dp/B09NJLPPP9/ref=asc_df_B09NJLPPP9/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=564689554525&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12181099606011033073&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018789&hvtargid=pla-1655767239772&psc=1

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:43 PM

Oh!

 That's wonderful! A wee bitty Version of Saturn. How likeable. Naw, Just kidding. Just did my VERY First Molded item with clear resin the other day. Spread W.D. 40 on a Parts Box, 61 Ford windshield, and poured Left-Over resin from another project, over the part as an experiment. Popped it off this morning. Hey! It Worked, and it's better than the original as far as being Optically Clear! It's way thinner than the styrene too!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, June 30, 2022 3:48 PM

Kool! About the Verne Novel, for sure!

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 30, 2022 5:58 PM

Tanker-Builder
Spread W.D. 40 on a Parts Box, 61 Ford windshield, and poured Left-Over resin from another project, over the part as an experiment. Popped it off this morning. Hey! It Worked, and it's better than the original as far as being Optically Clear! It's way thinner than the styrene too!

 

I'd love to see it. The WD40 didn't affect the resin clarity?

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 30, 2022 9:07 PM

The interior and the globe/Saturn look great to me! 

You're doing a smash-up job on her Bakster!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 30, 2022 9:10 PM

Greg

 

 
Bakster

I am doing something I don't do well. And that is, I started work on another model. I don't do two models at a time very well.

 

 

Either do I. Do pass on any observations to make it work.

 

 
Bakster
I will paint it and such, but pretty much OOTB. And that suits me fine. I have no interest in lighting it. I just want a nice clean build that I can display.

 

Uh huh. Seems like I've heard that one before. Devil

 

 

And now I want to see Khan open up his cryo-pod and find out he's on Planet of the Apes.... Stick out tongue

 

Actually Richardo Montleban was the carnival owner in Escape from Planet of the Apes wasn't he??? 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 30, 2022 11:08 PM

Gamera
And now I want to see Khan open up his cryo-pod and find out he's on Planet of the Apes....    Actually Richardo Montleban was the carnival owner in Escape from Planet of the Apes wasn't he??? 

Lol. That is a good one Gam.

And I think you are right about Montleban. Funny how that comes full circle.

Cordoba...

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, June 30, 2022 11:11 PM

Gamera
smash-up job

Don't say smash. Stick out tongue I still want to smash Icarus 1. Indifferent

Thanks Gam!

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Posted by Greg on Friday, July 1, 2022 7:23 AM

Gamera
And now I want to see Khan open up his cryo-pod and find out he's on Planet of the Apes.... Stick out tongue

Ha!

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Posted by Greg on Friday, July 1, 2022 7:26 AM

Bakster

 

 
Bakster
The little globe (looks like Saturn to me) looks awesome!!!   Now there is an idea. Maybe I should portray it as Saturn? Hmm. I am gonna give that some thought.

 

Hey Greg-- check this link out. For grins I did some searches on Saturn. Look what I found. The color almost matches even. The rings should be longer but hey-- Nemo is looking through an optical telescope of the day. Wink

https://www.amazon.com/Engraved-Miniatured-Birthday-Astronomy-Decorations/dp/B09NJLPPP9/ref=asc_df_B09NJLPPP9/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=564689554525&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12181099606011033073&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018789&hvtargid=pla-1655767239772&psc=1

 

 

That's pretty neat! So now you just gotta figure out how to mold Saturn's moons (there seem to be a bunch of them) into the debris field/rings. Stick out tongue

On a side note, TB says above he just cast his first doohickey the other day, which means you were first, which means you did something in modeling before he did and holy cow that is quite an accomplishment, with all his experience.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, July 1, 2022 9:10 AM

Hi Greg, Yeah!

 As I said It looks to be something fun! Now, how he hang it in the sky??

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Posted by Greg on Friday, July 1, 2022 10:21 AM

Tanker-Builder
Now, how he hang it in the sky??

Oh boy, Steve now Steve will get his gears grinding on this new challenge. Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 10:42 AM

Greg
So now you just gotta figure out how to mold Saturn's moons (there seem to be a bunch of them) into the debris field/rings.

With friends like you-- who needs enemies? LOL

 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 10:43 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hi Greg, Yeah!

 As I said It looks to be something fun! Now, how he hang it in the sky??

 

I think I have all that covered. But how do I create interstellar dust clouds. All that dust will be time consuming to create. Sad

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 10:45 AM

Greg
On a side note, TB says above he just cast his first doohickey the other day, which means you were first, which means you did something in modeling before he did and holy cow that is quite an accomplishment, with all his experience.

It's good to be the King. Hehe. Wink

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:20 AM

Gamera
And now I want to see Khan open up his cryo-pod and find out he's on Planet of the Apes....

Btw. That is a cool thought to ponder. With Kahns superior genetic intellect he'd be lording over ape planet in no time.

What would that look like? Dr Zaius bowing to Kahn? Wouldn't that be something. And the lawgivers scrolls cut up into TP? Perhaps so. The human museum switched out with ape figures? Probably so.

To be sure-- an interesting turn of events. Taylor would have a new master to contend with.

These are the things we should all think about. Leave it to Gamera to plant that seed. That flying turtle is no dummy. Wink

And btw--I don't feel like working today. You can probably tell. I am starting my 4 day weekend early!

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:48 AM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera
And now I want to see Khan open up his cryo-pod and find out he's on Planet of the Apes....

 

Btw. That is a cool thought to ponder. With Kahns superior genetic intellect he'd be lording over ape planet in no time.

What would that look like? Dr Zaius bowing to Kahn? Wouldn't that be something. And the lawgivers scrolls cut up into TP? Perhaps so. The human museum switched out with ape figures? Probably so.

To be sure-- an interesting turn of events. Taylor would have a new master to contend with.

These are the things we should all think about. Leave it to Gamera to plant that seed. That flying turtle is no dummy. Wink

And btw--I don't feel like working today. You can probably tell. I am starting my 4 day weekend early!

 

 

Well I figure that as soon as Khan wakes up Dr. Zira would chloroform his genetically superior butt and lobotomize him.

Enjoy your vacation Bakster. I gotta work over the holiday. Can't complain too much, the office is air conditioned so I can save a little money at home by not running mine so much.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:48 AM

Bakster
I am doing something I don't do well. And that is, I started work on another model. I don't do two models at a time very well.

Just remember that the cephalopod is wrapped around the one and not the other Smile

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:53 AM

Bakster
Btw. That is a cool thought to ponder. With Kahns superior genetic intellect he'd be lording over ape planet in no time.

In modern, deconstructionist (read "retcon') H'wood, the Augments were the cause of the Sacred scrolls.

Taylor and Nova go on to father Zephram Cochrane . . .

So, no smashing Icarus, that will just bring on the Apeocylpse Smile

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:55 AM

BTW: Hate to bring up bad news but Sammy is depressed again.

Something about you calling him a 'seal' Bakster. He started slapping his chest with a flipper and barking 'SEA LION SEA LION'. Then he went online and found this diagram and started muttering something about his magnificent 'ear flaps'.

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:56 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
Btw. That is a cool thought to ponder. With Kahns superior genetic intellect he'd be lording over ape planet in no time.

 

In modern, deconstructionist (read "retcon') H'wood, the Augments were the cause of the Sacred scrolls.

Taylor and Nova go on to father Zephram Cochrane . . .

So, no smashing Icarus, that will just bring on the Apeocylpse Smile

 

Thanks Captain- I guess we're screwed either way... Tongue Tied

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 1:14 PM

 

Gamera
Well I figure that as soon as Khan wakes up Dr. Zira would chloroform his genetically superior butt and lobotomize him.

That............ was............AWESOME!

One problem with this. It makes for a very short....................  mooovee. 

 

Gamera
Enjoy your vacation Bakster.

Thanks I will try.

 

Gamera
I gotta work over the holiday. Can't complain too much, the office is air conditioned so I can save a little money at home by not running mine so much.

Buddy-- that stinks.

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 1:17 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Bakster
I am doing something I don't do well. And that is, I started work on another model. I don't do two models at a time very well.

 

Just remember that the cephalopod is wrapped around the one and not the other Smile

 

Wait! What?

Dang it, Capn. Now you tell me! I put the cephalopd in my right ear. 

Ah-- what the hey. It will probably crawl over to the other side anyhow.

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 1:20 PM

Gamera

BTW: Hate to bring up bad news but Sammy is depressed again.

Something about you calling him a 'seal' Bakster. He started slapping his chest with a flipper and barking 'SEA LION SEA LION'. Then he went online and found this diagram and started muttering something about his magnificent 'ear flaps'.

 

Hollywood movie stars are so dang sensitive! 

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Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 1, 2022 1:29 PM

CapnMac82
In modern, deconstructionist (read "retcon') H'wood, the Augments were the cause of the Sacred scrolls.

Um ............ yeah. Squid pro ro. I'll have to get back to you on THAT one, Capn.

CapnMac82
Taylor and Nova go on to father Zephram Cochrane . . .

Not if Kahn gets to her first. Taylor will be out of luck. 

CapnMac82
So, no smashing Icarus, that will just bring on the Apeocylpse

 

I guess that smashing the Icarus could set off a time paradox. Duly noted. 

 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Saturday, July 2, 2022 12:07 AM

LOL! I swear I blinked and this thread doubled in size!!  Not sure if I have enough time this weekend to go back and read everything to get caught up.

Saw your clear resin cast of the globe and it looks like your mold captured it perfectly. 

My two cents (and that's vastly over valuing it) is if the globe idea isn't calling out to you, then maybe it's worth setting aside and moving on.  I've put myself in build paralysis when trying to do something that just didn't resonate with me.

All that aside, good luck with your Star Trek build.  Just like this one, I look forward to seeing how it turns out! Big Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:43 AM

LOL! I swear I blinked and this thread doubled in size!!

Just since yesterday! I guess people needed some comedy relief! I know that I do. But.. we shall always circle back to the build.

My two cents (and that's vastly over valuing it) is if the globe idea isn't calling out to you, then maybe it's worth setting aside and moving on.  I've put myself in build paralysis when trying to do something that just didn't resonate with me.

That is sound advice, PhoenixG. I have been caught in that trap more than once. It's a fine line that we walk. We don't grow in our skills by playing it safe, but knowing when to move on is paramount. So, your comment is timely. I had determined this globe thing is not worth burning out over. I am simplifying it. I think it will still be a cool thing. More on that soon.

All that aside, good luck with your Star Trek build.  Just like this one, I look forward to seeing how it turns out! 

Thanks about that. I am determined to keep it simple. I can't handle two complex builds at the same time. And thus far, it's been fun. Currently, I am filling the join around the saucer. 

Thanks for following and for your input!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:10 PM

Things got real quiet.

I may have killed the fun. 

Better make a subtle exit.

leaving

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:17 PM

PhoenixG
Things got real quiet. I may have killed the fun.  Better make a subtle exit.

Lol.  But hey--thanks to whomever gave this thread 5 stars. Much appreciated.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 3, 2022 3:08 PM

Stardate 100102.16 

I have reached a milestone with this build; the interior is done.

What became of the crystal? After much spent mental energy, I decided not to light it. As I suspected might happen, fiberoptic did not produce enough light to make that option viable. This then left a Led which I am sure would have worked but ... I could not break through the creative wall where the end product will flow with the build. Primarily, how to incorporate a led into the build and make the piece not look like something that has an led in it, while keeping it in theme of the boat. In short... I was not feeling it. 

Greg presented an interesting idea about Saturn. That is an idea I like a lot, but to make that work for me--I'd need to cast a whole new piece. I would not be happy using the piece I have now. And there is the rub. It would be another major time suck. And on top of that--to do what I'd want to do-- it would not be an easy thing.

With another idea in my chamber, I opted to take a different direction.

An Aquamarine Artifact

If you could shrink yourself down to read Nemo's journal-- it explains how the crystal found its way into the Nautilus. Here is the gist:

Nemo notes that while harvesting food they came across what appeared to be a paved road. They followed its course, and this led them to temples, pyramids, and other structures that were probably dwellings. It was clear to Nemo that this city met a catastrophic geological end, sinking it into the depths of the sea. Nemo writes, "Indeed! I have discovered the fabled city of Atlantis!"

As they explore, they come to a small pyramid that at its cap rests a spherical aqua colored crystal. Nemo is enamored with it and he gives the order to retrieve it. He then has it mounted in the parlor for further study.  

Nemo notes a curious fact about the crystal. The crystal is observed to glow when certain notes are struck on the organ. This might explain why his music sounds so lousy because he is trying to ignite the crystal. Indifferent In any event-- he does not understand the technology imbedded inside the crystal and what its purpose is. Let's hope it is not a death ray. Wink 

And that is the story of Nemo's crystal. 

I am posting a series of images because this may be my best chance to image them without more color distortions that the led lightbox will surely create within my camera. 

The crystal mount was painted with Alclad Brass and then sealed with MRP clear.

From here I will fill gaps and holes at the joins. I will use Apoxie Sculpt (black) to do that. Then from there-- start work on the light box. 

Lastly-- two for the price of one Bakster builds. The saucer is for the most part ready to primer. The engineering section (section below the neck) was quite the lobotomy. I had to widen each hole that the locating pins go into. I couldn't have mashed them together if I tried. Also-- the collector dish assembly, the shuttle bay doors, and the nacelle mounts all have to be inserted into the assembly before closing the two pieces. The latter is not a terrible thing-- just a nuisance if you like doing things in sections.

There is more warping going on and I am not talking about warping through space. Clamps will be the order of the day.  All that said-- nothing that can't be fixed. 

And that is that.

 

 

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Posted by DUSTER on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:44 AM

Bakster, I quite like the globe as is. it has a nice color that is not evident anywhere else and thus stands out as "an object of wonder" etc. etc. 

OR it could be said,  We don' neeed no steekin' globe 

                                                    

p.s. like what you've done to the place, all very gen-teeel like 

Steve

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 4, 2022 7:20 AM

Interior looks great, Steve. Always enjoy your model interiors. The globe really adds a lot.

Duster makes a good point, it makes for a very good splash of accent color.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 9:07 AM

 

Bakster, I quite like the globe as is. it has a nice color that is not evident anywhere else and thus stands out as "an object of wonder" etc. etc.


Good. That is the feeling I get too. 

 

OR it could be said,  We don' neeed no steekin' globe


Gosh darn right! That's what charts are for and Nemo has plenty.

Thanks for your post, Duster!

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 9:25 AM

Greg

Interior looks great, Steve. Always enjoy your model interiors. The globe really adds a lot.

Duster makes a good point, it makes for a very good splash of accent color.

 

Thanks, Greg. 

Milwaukee has a museum and my favorite section is an area called, Old Milwaukee. They made it like you are literally walking down the street at night in old Milwaukee. The streets are cobblestone and on the sides are shops depicting people and structure of the time. They even have huge trees that tower over the street. The scene is so well done it creates a mood. I love any dio or depiction that stirs a mood. I'd like a mansion like that. Lol. 

See the video below at around the 5 min mark.

https://youtu.be/V1PVkbbj1lk

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 4, 2022 11:25 AM

I'd love to visit the Streets of Old Milwaukee and the European Village. If I'm not mistaken, Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry has or had a similar old town street full sized diorama in the basement, and it was always my favorite part of the museum. I don't remember it as being nearly as well-done as yours. Not sure if it's still there.

When I stopped by Robin's AFB Museum of Aviation in May, there were a few full size dioramas there too.

I can see how the 'streets' display would be a great inspiration for your details interiors, as well as motivation to create them.

-Greg

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 4, 2022 11:53 AM

The Nautilus interior looks awesome Bakster!

And the Big-E is coming along nicely. Good kit but I yeah there are some big fit issues. I had serious issues getting the struts for the primary hull and nacelles cleaned up and faired in. 

 

Funny about the ancient city of Atlantis, it's been forever since I've read '20,000' - I really need to read it again. Recently I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story 'The Temple' about a U-Boat that sails into an ancient underwater temple. And the captain and crew, well it's a Lovecraft story so it's not really a spoiler... they all go batguano crazy...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:26 PM

Bakster
They even have huge trees that tower over the street. The scene is so well done it creates a mood. I love any dio or depiction that stirs a mood.

Probably is issing the smells of hay an manure it probably ought have, for ful senosry immersion.

Which might be a bit more "immersion" than some muesu goers might want.  Although, that's part of the charm of "living history" places like Colonial Williamsberg and the like.

There's a differentce in making a scale boat versus a 1:1 wooden boat.  The smells of the shavings, the hoil oil on the bearings of the tools, lacquer, dolphinite, and all the rest.

The shortest sensory nerve paths to the brain are in the olfactory nerves--smell and taste.  That's why they can be so evocative.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:30 PM

Greg

I'd love to visit the Streets of Old Milwaukee and the European Village. If I'm not mistaken, Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry has or had a similar old town street full sized diorama in the basement, and it was always my favorite part of the museum. I don't remember it as being nearly as well-done as yours. Not sure if it's still there.

When I stopped by Robin's AFB Museum of Aviation in May, there were a few full size dioramas there too.

I can see how the 'streets' display would be a great inspiration for your details interiors, as well as motivation to create them.

 

Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like? 

And yes, it is an insporation. I attempted to get a job there when I was a young lad. Apparently, no museum skills was an issue. Lol. 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:38 PM

Thanks, Gam. 

 I had serious issues getting the struts for the primary hull and nacelles cleaned up and faired in. 

Nice.  Something more to look forward to! Blah!

 

Funny about the ancient city of Atlantis, it's been forever since I've read '20,000' 


So it's in the book? I have not read it yet and I must do so. And here I thought I was conjurig up a new idea. Lol.


Recently, I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story 'The Temple' about a U-Boat that sails into an ancient underwater temple. And the captain and crew, well it's a Lovecraft story so it's not really a spoiler... they all go batguano crazy..


That sounds right up my alley. I will try reading that too.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:53 PM

Probably is issing the smells of hay an manure it probably ought have, for ful senosry immersion.


I don't recall them doing that but that sounds like a good idea. Btw. Cow manure doesn't bother me. Or at least not up until you get within feet of it. Then it's a bit too ripe.

 

Although, that's part of the charm of "living history" places like Colonial Williamsberg and the like.


That is on my bucket list for retirement. 

The shortest sensory nerve paths to the brain are in the olfactory nerves--smell and taste.  That's why they can be so evocative.

You know what my favorite smell is? I love the smell of Cedar. I have cedar blocks in my Amazon wish list. I don't know why I have not ordered it. Maybe because some people were complanning it not pungent enough. Funny how scent affects one person to another. I love cedar, a friend of my hates it. She can't stand it. Same with taste. I love watermelon, she hates it. I tell her, how can you hate watermelon! It's the nectar of the gods.

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 1:06 PM

 

I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story


Hey Gam, I was just searching for it. Looking like I need more specific info on the title. juice me up, brother.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, July 4, 2022 1:10 PM

Bakster
Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like?

There were more than one. The non-avaition themed ones I recall most vividly depicted the war as it played out in China. One was the inside of what I presume was a home or hut, 'borrowed' for use as a field office. There was a walk though dio of the Great Wall nearby, which took a whole lot less effort to explore then the real one!

Otherwise, 1:1 aircraft were displayed in diorama settings, rather than just sitting around as museum aircraft most often do. The first one comes to mind was a very well done Huey gunship dio, in the Vietnam building.

-Greg

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 1:14 PM

Greg

 

 
Bakster
Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like?

 

There were more than one. The non-avaition themed ones I recall most vividly depicted the war as it played out in China. One was the inside of what I presume was a home or hut, 'borrowed' for use as a field office. There was a walk though dio of the Great Wall nearby, which took a whole lot less effort to explore then the real one!

Otherwise, 1:1 aircraft were displayed in diorama settings, rather than just sitting around as museum aircraft most often do. The first one comes to mind was a very well done Huey gunship dio, in the Vietnam building.

 

Gotcha, that sounds cool. Must add that to my list!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:05 PM

Bakster

 

I did reread the H.P. Lovecraft story


Hey Gam, I was just searching for it. Looking like I need more specific info on the title. juice me up, brother.

 

Oh my apologies, I thought you said Atlantis was in the novel version of '20,000 Leagues'. It's been forever since I've read it and didn't remember.

 

The Lovecraft story is 'The Temple' 1925. I found a complete copy online, it's not a very long story:

https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/te.aspx

It's a tad bigoted against Germans but hey, he wrote it a few years after WWI so I'm not too surprised.

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:15 PM

Bakster

 

 
Greg

 

 
Bakster
Those sound cool, Greg. What was the Robins AFB diorma like?

 

There were more than one. The non-avaition themed ones I recall most vividly depicted the war as it played out in China. One was the inside of what I presume was a home or hut, 'borrowed' for use as a field office. There was a walk though dio of the Great Wall nearby, which took a whole lot less effort to explore then the real one!

Otherwise, 1:1 aircraft were displayed in diorama settings, rather than just sitting around as museum aircraft most often do. The first one comes to mind was a very well done Huey gunship dio, in the Vietnam building.

 

 

 

Gotcha, that sounds cool. Must add that to my list!

 

Those sound cool guys, I'd love to visit them.

The Naval Aviation Museum in Pensicola, Florida has a rather small but neat area of a short walk though a 1940's shopping district.

And Williamsburg is cool to walk though although they'd renovated a lot of stuff for a Revoluntionary War theme instead of a Colonial theme. Still it's great to be able to see recreations of what things would have looked like back then. And there are carriage rides with horses so there's ahem... 'road apples' lying around. 

Jamestown is much less built up. Other than the three ships, Susan Constant, Godspeed, and Discovery and a replica of a fort and American Indian encampment you'd have seen at that time most of the area is still just bare sites for the research digs.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 2:29 PM

Ok found it. Thanks Gam.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 4, 2022 6:39 PM

I started mixing Apoxie Sculpt when it hit me. Why the effort to stuff putty into joins? It is more work than it's worth. It would be much easier to fill the gaps using sprue-goo. So, that is what I did. Eventually, I will paint the outer shell in black for light blocking.

Anyhow, a mundane correction.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 3:13 PM

That Unit!

       Sorry, Gotta break Your heart! Nah, Just kidding! It does look like it could be used in a SteamPunk Airship too! Awesome progress here. Even though it isn't The Disney/Harper Goff design, You are making me want one, you realize that don't you?

       Yer makin it so gorgeous, I do hope you've figgered out the Lighting. Wouldn't want to miss all that in the dark now, would we? If'n youse don't light it, I will be very dissappointed in ya! Just think. A fully lighted 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Lighted and Bubbles escaping, Subarine (misspelt intentionally!) within a Tropical Fish Acquarium! And NO, NOT,with the genetically altered Glowing Fish either! You could even have the Squid suspended within the scene like it's starting the chase! With flexible tentacles too! LOL!LOL!LOL!

      I would actually try that. I did the Aurora,"Black Falcon" Pirate Ship in my Fish Tank, Long before they marketed it as a bubbler! As a matter of fact I bought one just to check it out. It was created from the Black Falcon Molds. Every single part of the kit was interchangeable with the Bubbler! In the Bigger tank-100gallon. I had two kits as "Shipwreck Bubblers".The Heller La Gliore and the Heller Trireme model " In the other 100 gal tank I had an old Steam "Tramp" and a W.W.2 Cruiser wreck bubblers!

      My Missus got bit by By the idea, and created her own 50 gal. Tank With the Dio of a more historical Atlantis. We often had many fish in our tanks that were offered by the Zoo. We helped keep them supplied with The States wild natural fishes for Breeding( We returned them to where we caught them,) and they would "Pay" us with tropical fishes that closing Restaurants and Offices would give up!  

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 3:49 PM

When I did it!

        The resin was gently poured over the Windshield in a very thin layer. The W.D. 40 had been applied then carefully and lightly wiped away leaving a slippery surface. So I thought to myself,"Ah, What the hell, Let's see if thiss'll work!" Just another crazy experiment of mine!

        I was looking at a German aircraft kit, Well, my parts box of given parts. I have the Nose Glass from two, Bombers I think. Multiple panes in a gem surface type shape.Perfect for a steam Punk what If design?

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:25 PM

Tanker-Builder

When I did it!

        The resin was gently poured over the Windshield in a very thin layer. The W.D. 40 had been applied then carefully and lightly wiped away leaving a slippery surface. So I thought to myself,"Ah, What the hell, Let's see if thiss'll work!" Just another crazy experiment of mine!

        I was looking at a German aircraft kit, Well, my parts box of given parts. I have the Nose Glass from two, Bombers I think. Multiple panes in a gem surface type shape.Perfect for a steam Punk what If design?

 

Sounds good TB.

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:28 PM

I do hope you've figgered out the Lighting. Wouldn't want to miss all that in the dark now, would we? If'n youse don't light it, I will be very dissappointed in ya!

Oh for sure. I would not go through all this work and not light the beast.

Interesting thoughts about the bubblers, TB.

 

You are making me want one, you realize that don't you?


Just do it...

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 4:51 PM

Speaking of lighting... I worked on the light box today. I made the box by using Evergreen styrene sheets that were then cut to size.

The plan is to cut holes at the ends and mount one each 5mm led. They will face each other. The hope is their light will bounce around inside the box and then down into the parlor via the openings in the ceiling. I am mounting them that way to avoid making visual hotspots.

I will start there and see how it goes. If I must add additional leds, I will.

I don't have the leds I want, so I had to order them. They ship quickly, and I would expect them maybe by the weekend. There are other things I can work on until then.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 1:59 PM

Keeps building up quite nicely.  Globe turned outstanding, and it's fitting up nicely.

Lots of cool "living history" places to visit.  Put Mystic Seaport on your list.

Well, dang it, my f/b feed popped up a photo of SeaView.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 7:30 PM

Bakster: Looks good, you're making great progress! 

Captain: Great photo of the Seaview!!! 

TB: You're an everflowing fount of ideas! Always love your comments. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 7:34 PM

CapnMac82

Keeps building up quite nicely.  Globe turned outstanding, and it's fitting up nicely.

Lots of cool "living history" places to visit.  Put Mystic Seaport on your list.

Well, dang it, my f/b feed popped up a photo of SeaView.

 

Thanks, Capn.  And that is a hoot about Seaview. Once again, going full circle!

Now there is a thought. In a battle between Seaview and the Nautilus... who'd win? I kind of think Seaview with all the modern armament. But then again... Nemo is a sneaky sort. 

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, July 7, 2022 9:05 AM

Gamera
Captain: Great photo of the Seaview!!!

I was going to post the same. There's something about that image, it's mezmorizing.

-Greg

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:07 AM

The interior is a beautiful looking build and as many have commented before, the crystal compliments the study perfectly. 

The story is a wonderfully crafted flight of fancy.  The tale is something you might discover find while perusing museum displays with their brass plaques and velvet ropes.

On The Bench:

1/700 Space Submarine I-401

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, July 7, 2022 4:42 PM

PhoenixG

The interior is a beautiful looking build and as many have commented before, the crystal compliments the study perfectly. 

The story is a wonderfully crafted flight of fancy.  The tale is something you might discover find while perusing museum displays with their brass plaques and velvet ropes.

 

You sir... are too kind. Thank you!

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 9, 2022 12:46 PM

I made another light box. This will mount behind the opened door that I fabricated. When viewed from one side of the assembly, you can see through that door some. The opening leads to the engine room and so the multicolor Led will give the look of some sort of power plant. Also, I wanted to add a little detail, thus the copper piping. You'll get a sence of structure verses a blank wall. 



That is where I am today. I am waiting for the Leds to arrive. Once I get those I can start testing things for light balance and such.

Later.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, July 9, 2022 3:50 PM

Cap'n Mac!

     I guess that's why one of my hobbies years ago WAS salvaging, rebuilding and restoring Old Wood Boats! For Myself and others. Just something about the Smell of Marine Grade Cedar and Teak, not to mention White Oak and Silver Pine. I cannot, for the life of me, Figure how those Poo B#$%@&#s forward of the mast survived the life they did. Maybe that is why so many were hard Drinking old men by thirty.

      The smell of the woods and the old style varnish you had to make of cakes you bought at the Chandlery, definitely led one to daydream sometimes. Oh, and Yes, The vessel would definitely talk to you.Thing is Ya better Listen too!

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:15 PM

Well... the main light box did not work out as planned. Facing two LEDs towards each other did not produce enough ambient light. I should have known this. LEDs don't behave the same way as incandescent bulbs; LEDs focus their light from the front.

But-- no worries. This snafu led me to something much much better. Ultimately--the shotgun approach is replaced with strategically placed light cans. I positioned LEDs exactly where I want the light painted.

So-- I placed one light over the organ, two over the couch (one on each side), one over the crystal globe, and one over the writing desk. All the main elements are illuminated producing a very nice effect. For the couch, I positioned the lights at angles for better coverage. Otherwise, the ceiling frame was in the way causing shadows.

Notes:

1. I am using 3mm cool light LEDs for the main parlor. I tried warm white, and I didn't like it. It was too yellow and to my eye--it muddied the details.

2. I used Evergreen tubing to help secure the LEDs, but also to help focus the light. 

3. I might still use the light box I made. It might be good for light blocking. Time will tell on that.

4. For the engine room I used a 5mm fast changing RGB LED. The LED cycles colors.

 

Below is an example of one LED. I still have to wire the other LEDS.

Btw. The engine room LED/assembly turned out great! I used the same tubing to focus light and you can clearly see the changing colors. Somewhere down the road I will try imaging all this so you can see. 

I need to finish wiring the LEDs and from there I might start work on the main windows. Or, I might address the exterior lighting adjacent to the main windows.

Later.

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, July 10, 2022 1:29 PM

Bakster
4. For the engine room I used a 5mm fast changing RGB LED. The LED cycles colors.

Yeah, I was pondering how to get the "swirly" light colors fr the engine room, which Disney would have used a rack of overlapping "color wheels" in the studio.

Which suggests using 3-4 multi-color LEDs and wiring them so that they "fire" out of sequence to each other with different colors.  Which might want a mirror to reflect the light in the desired direction.

 

That blue-white LED over the organ is just right per that photo.  It has the "arc light" look of studio lighting, which gives a "movie set piece" look.

 

The next question will be if micro speakers are wanted to play organ notes Smile

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 10, 2022 2:42 PM

Which suggests using 3-4 multi-color LEDs and wiring them so that they "fire" out of sequence to each other with different colors.  Which might want a mirror to reflect the light in the desired direction.


Yeah a person could do that. I went the easy way. I can't find the link right now but it's the same color changing LED I used on the power plant in my BootHill build.

 

That blue-white LED over the organ is just right per that photo.  It has the "arc light" look of studio lighting, which gives a "movie set piece" look.

Thanks.  And btw. That is what I am talking about. To the human eye the light does not look that blue, if at all. The camera sees it that way. I had to PP the image and push the color temp to the warm side in order to tone it down some. It is still way off but it is what it is. I hate that about LEDs; impossible to photograph correctly.

The next question will be if micro speakers are wanted to play organ notes Smile

You crack me up, Capn. You keep after me to do that. The Seaview, the Icarus, the Johnny-quest Dragonfly, and now the Nautilus. Lol. But do you know what? I might consider it with this build. There is lots of room in the innards to mount a board, and it would be a cool thing to do. Maybe I could even capture some dialog of Nemo barking orders during the squid attack. 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 10, 2022 2:57 PM

Finally, found it. Took me 20 minutes. Sheesh.

https://youtu.be/5w9qxZCvZW8

 

 

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, July 10, 2022 3:46 PM

You are becoming the master of model lighting, Steve.

Bow Down

-Greg

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 10, 2022 8:08 PM

Greg

You are becoming the master of model lighting, Steve.

Bow Down

 

Thanks, Greg. I call it luck.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, July 11, 2022 7:43 AM

Oh Boy!

 This is gettin "Verry" interesting. Your lighting effects are going to be "Viciously Delicious"!

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Posted by Back to the bench on Monday, July 11, 2022 11:28 AM

Bakster

Well... the main light box did not work out as planned. Facing two LEDs towards each other did not produce enough ambient light. I should have known this. LEDs don't behave the same way as incandescent bulbs; LEDs focus their light from the front.

But-- no worries. This snafu led me to something much much better. Ultimately--the shotgun approach is replaced with strategically placed light cans. I positioned LEDs exactly where I want the light painted.

So-- I placed one light over the organ, two over the couch (one on each side), one over the crystal globe, and one over the writing desk. All the main elements are illuminated producing a very nice effect. For the couch, I positioned the lights at angles for better coverage. Otherwise, the ceiling frame was in the way causing shadows.

Notes:

1. I am using 3mm cool light LEDs for the main parlor. I tried warm white, and I didn't like it. It was too yellow and to my eye--it muddied the details.

2. I used Evergreen tubing to help secure the LEDs, but also to help focus the light. 

3. I might still use the light box I made. It might be good for light blocking. Time will tell on that.

4. For the engine room I used a 5mm fast changing RGB LED. The LED cycles colors.

 

Below is an example of one LED. I still have to wire the other LEDS.

Btw. The engine room LED/assembly turned out great! I used the same tubing to focus light and you can clearly see the changing colors. Somewhere down the road I will try imaging all this so you can see. 

I need to finish wiring the LEDs and from there I might start work on the main windows. Or, I might address the exterior lighting adjacent to the main windows.

Later.

 

 

 

Holy barnacles captain, I have been away playing with the grandkids for a bit and you have accomplished a ton!

The color pallette on your interior really sets the mood perfectly and your cast crystal was just the touch needed to top it all off.

REALLY like your lighting approach and your scratched can lights are a great idea that has many applications.

You have probably seen these, they have been getting a lot of coverage the last several months and I think that Aaron and Tim may have actually done a video about them as well. I thought they were really clever and can see them being quite useful to the scale model community. I am seeing them showing up on Amazon now as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL7bwm_FqlA

Really enjoying your buildYes

 

Gil

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 11, 2022 8:43 PM

That's awesome Bakster, don't see yourself short- that's amazing work! Yes

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:20 AM

Tanker-Builder

Oh Boy!

 This is gettin "Verry" interesting. Your lighting effects are going to be "Viciously Delicious"!

 

Thanks TB...

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:30 AM

Back to the bench
The color pallette on your interior really sets the mood perfectly and your cast crystal was just the touch needed to top it all off. REALLY like your lighting approach and your scratched can lights are a great idea that has many applications.

Thanks, Gil. Probably something I should point out is this. I have the LEDs so they don't extend beyond the tubing. You can adjust that depth thus creating different lighting effects. 

Back to the bench
You have probably seen these, they have been getting a lot of coverage the last several months and I think that Aaron and Tim may have actually done a video about them as well. I thought they were really clever and can see them being quite useful to the scale model community. I am seeing them showing up on Amazon now as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL7bwm_FqlA

I had seen that but I completely forgot about that technology. Thanks for the refresher on that.  I have to give that more thought for the future!

Back to the bench
Really enjoying your build

I am glad. That helps me push on because I often ask myself-- why are you doing this? LOL. Yes

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:38 AM

Gamera

That's awesome Bakster, don't see yourself short- that's amazing work! Yes

 

Thanks, Gam. It's a fine line. The second a person says, hey-- I am doing good!  It's about then disaster strikes indicating, you ain't all that! Wink But THANKS to you and all that commented. It is good to hear and I do take your comments to heart! I truly do.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 10:39 AM

I worked on making the LED lead wires. This part of the build is what scares me. There are a lot of things that can go wrong if a person doesn't think things through, and even then, you can get bit. My experience wiring and running LED wiring is limited. I know enough to be dangerous, but basically, I am learning as I go. 

I am using magnet wire. I like the wire because it is flexible, and it holds a shape to how you want it. Also, I like it for its low overall diameter. I'd say, the latter is the biggest plus. You can easily bury it in an assembly. The wire has a varnish insulation that is thin leading to its low OD. Standard insulated wire eats up real-estate with its larger OD, and typically, it won't hold its shape well. Telephone wire might be the exception. The downside to magnet wire is it is fragile at the solder joint. It breaks easily if you are not careful. And that is the fear. Once I get everything mounted, there is little going back. If there is a failure, depending on where and at what stage in the build, it might be unfixable. It's use is not unprecedented for models. I have seen other model builders use it for the same reasons I noted. So, enough said about the wire.

Not completely trusting my electonic circuit knowledge, I decided to attach the leads to a proto board and let the LEDs burn in for several hours. If there is a failure, I want to know now, and not when I have them glued and the model closed up. Thus far, they are working fine.

Don't let all the wires scare you. Some of that is not actually used in my testing. I had some on the board from a previous project and I didn't remove them. Also, I should add, you can buy LEDs prewired with the resistors and or, you can get a special resister module if preferred. Many ways to skin a cat, as they say. Point is, don't let this rats nest scare anyone from lighting their own model.

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:02 PM

Ok the LEDs are secured. I applied small amounts of CA to secure them.

I will image the interior for you in the next day or two. 

 

  • Member since
    August 2007
  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 12:49 AM

Gee when I started reading this I couldn’t even spell LED, now I know how to add wires and a battery to ‘em.

 Is this not the modeling equivalent to a cold beer on a scorching hot day?               Soo Goood!

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 8:34 AM

DUSTER

Gee when I started reading this I couldn’t even spell LED, now I know how to add wires and a battery to ‘em.

 Is this not the modeling equivalent to a cold beer on a scorching hot day?               Soo Goood!
 

Hey, Duster!  I think you need some pretzels with that beer. I will get you some! Wink

Thanks my, Friend. I am glad you are not finding my LED detail too mundane. I know for some it may be. 

Btw.  That Beer looks good. I am having lunch with coworkers today. Something tells me a beer may be in the offing. 

Thanks for posting!

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    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 12:48 PM