Greg

 

 

CapnMac82

Herd some flak about the "litter" under the seat.

 

 

Utter nonsense. That littler is a big part of the overall attraction of the pic, at least to me it is.

Don't mean to get all serious in a lighthearted Bakster WIP, but it bugs me that now that everyone has a camera on thier phones, everyone thinks they are a togger and photo critic.

 

I saw the garbage and immediately I understood its intent. It is part of the story! All good images tell a story! You take the garbage out of that image, suddenly, the image becomes far less interesting. I like the garbage because it is real. It is a snapshot of what happened there. 

You did good, Capn. Don't let anyone take that away from you.

CapnMac82

Herd some flak about the "litter" under the seat.

Utter nonsense. That littler is a big part of the overall attraction of the pic, at least to me it is.

Don't mean to get all serious in a lighthearted Bakster WIP, but it bugs me that now that everyone has a camera on thier phones, everyone thinks they are a togger and photo critic.

Cool pics, Capn. I like your perspective's. 

Greg

I still like Cap's pic as is, though. I wasn't smart enough to realize it was raining, and found myself mezmerized by the sharp forground and blurred background/stadium. Big part of my attraction to the pic, that.

Since I hav the original, and can see it on a larger screen, what I notice is that the background is not so much blurred as obscurred by the rain.  The image is through the water droplets as it were.

If you look at the back of the seats, the camera did catch a few droplets.  Blown up, there's just a hint of splash on the concrete, too.

The image is from the three-element 16 mP front camera on my Galaxy S21.  So, not a lot of controls to fiddle with.

Greg

 

 

CapnMac82

It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.

 

 

Despite that, IMO this is an extremely cool photo. I love stuff like this.

 

Herd some flak about the "litter" under the seat.  I'm under a small overhang in that photo, out of the direct rain.  Standing to my right is the owner of the poncho folded in a clear envelope in that "litter"

Game kicked off at 1100, and finished at 1720.  I left the house at 0520 and returned at 2210

For contrast, here's about 1100

Bakster

.....try different shutter speeds. I experienced the same issue imaging rain and I found that if you play with various shutter speeds, you can get closer to capturing the droplets.

Yes. And which used to be an exercise in futility becuase it's usually darkish when it's raining and the film ASA (who remembers ASA?) didn't used to go high enough to allow a fast enough shutter speed to freeze the droplets.

With ISO's going higher and higher, better chance of making it work.

I still like Cap's pic as is, though. I wasn't smart enough to realize it was raining, and found myself mezmerized by the sharp forground and blurred background/stadium. Big part of my attraction to the pic, that.

Tanker-Builder

Well!

       I think many try to hard to duplicate photos too. Trying to copy a box cover will give you the wrong colors. The photos on the Cover seem to shift to the red side of the Photo spectrum. What few I do I do it to suit my way of seeing that person in someone that resembles them. With the old EyeBall Mk.1

      I have seen military figures that evoked a vision of a "Wino" to me. Their skin has to many Red Highlights! There are many skin tones and that's another thing. Since when is a group of men in battle gear all the same skin tone? That doesn't cut it in my book. I have the 1/24 figurines of the American Pin Up Series.

      Not one of those ladies has the same skin tones. Some even have perfect tans. Some look like the mind picture of the Very Light skinned Irish Lass, with Copper red hair. I have one that has a beautiful Dark Toast Shading. Now she's coming out gorgeous.

 

Good input, TB. 

Greg

Glad you had good results with the Vallejo wash. I have some on the shelf, seeing your results on a large project may help give me confidence to try it.

Coming along beautifully.

And a couple of random comments;

I haven't been to breakfast in too long and your pic above sure made me miss it! And a group breakfast with the Bakster WIP groupies sure would be a hoot. I would do a road trip for that.

Regarding Joe Rix, though I haven't spoken with him in quite a long time, I did speak with a fellow forum member 2 days ago who has. I was told that though the flooding was bad in Moab, Joe and his home/family were unaffected and he is doing fine.

 

I wish the affects of my wash came through better. So much of it was muted between reality and with imaging it.  Yeah. I had some good luck with the wash, and I like it's effect on Alclad brass. It tones down the tinsel look of it.

I agree about breakfast. I'd do a roadtrip too for a meet with the gang. It would be great to meet everyone.

Good to hear Joe came out Ok. Thanks for letting me know that. I am relieved for him.

Thanks for the nice comments and post, Greg.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

And before all this, a breakfast of champions.

 

 

 

Looks tasty.  Mind, I'd have this reflex to wrap it in warm soft flour tortilla with a jot of salsa verde and café mexicana.  Which is likely given my submergense in such a cultural heritage.  Up thre in your hinterlands, I might try to make it a casserole

(I do have a recipe in my pocket for a quite nice breackfast Caserole, come to cases, cmae out of Indiana, so has suitable Midwest roots.)

 

Not sure going to .raw for the photos will "beat" the consrictions that Kalmbach's web hosting graphich rendering will impose on any image.  Rendering graphic images is ridiculous complicated.  And not through incompetence nor indifference--it's, frankly, a miracle of technology that it works at all.

And, then, there is the disconnect that the Mk I Mod 0* Eyeball, Human, has with even the best photogrpahy.  The human visual cortex interpolates much in photographs as is.

Case in point from just yesterday:

It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.
Rendered perfectly to my eye, but vanished in the photo, despite megapixel count and high resolutiion settings.

So, the fact that I can appreciate any red-basing in the paint scheme at all is a measure of success.

This also invites a nagging question lurking at the edges of modern modeling.  Do we render "to the camera" or "to the eye"?  This has become hugely important in the success of YT videos, where 80% of the viewers see the screen image as "reality" despite the very real difference to the eye of the actual modeler.

Rendered to the "satisfaction" of viewers, makes an ugly mess, IRL. 

Whether that "explains" some of the heavy-handed techniques much in vogue in videos is probably yet another question.

 

 

All good points, Capn. I can't add to it. One thing I might mention about your image is to try different shutter speeds. I experienced the same issue imaging rain and I found that if you play with various shutter speeds, you can get closer to capturing the droplets. Just a thought.

Thanks for your informative post and enjoy your Labor Day!

Well!

       I think many try to hard to duplicate photos too. Trying to copy a box cover will give you the wrong colors. The photos on the Cover seem to shift to the red side of the Photo spectrum. What few I do I do it to suit my way of seeing that person in someone that resembles them. With the old EyeBall Mk.1

      I have seen military figures that evoked a vision of a "Wino" to me. Their skin has to many Red Highlights! There are many skin tones and that's another thing. Since when is a group of men in battle gear all the same skin tone? That doesn't cut it in my book. I have the 1/24 figurines of the American Pin Up Series.

      Not one of those ladies has the same skin tones. Some even have perfect tans. Some look like the mind picture of the Very Light skinned Irish Lass, with Copper red hair. I have one that has a beautiful Dark Toast Shading. Now she's coming out gorgeous.

CapnMac82

It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.

Despite that, IMO this is an extremely cool photo. I love stuff like this.

Bakster

And before all this, a breakfast of champions.

Looks tasty.  Mind, I'd have this reflex to wrap it in warm soft flour tortilla with a jot of salsa verde and café mexicana.  Which is likely given my submergense in such a cultural heritage.  Up thre in your hinterlands, I might try to make it a casserole

(I do have a recipe in my pocket for a quite nice breackfast Caserole, come to cases, cmae out of Indiana, so has suitable Midwest roots.)

Not sure going to .raw for the photos will "beat" the consrictions that Kalmbach's web hosting graphich rendering will impose on any image.  Rendering graphic images is ridiculous complicated.  And not through incompetence nor indifference--it's, frankly, a miracle of technology that it works at all.

And, then, there is the disconnect that the Mk I Mod 0* Eyeball, Human, has with even the best photogrpahy.  The human visual cortex interpolates much in photographs as is.

Case in point from just yesterday:

It's pouring rain in this photo, but the rain drops are scarcely visible in the photograph.
Rendered perfectly to my eye, but vanished in the photo, despite megapixel count and high resolutiion settings.

So, the fact that I can appreciate any red-basing in the paint scheme at all is a measure of success.

This also invites a nagging question lurking at the edges of modern modeling.  Do we render "to the camera" or "to the eye"?  This has become hugely important in the success of YT videos, where 80% of the viewers see the screen image as "reality" despite the very real difference to the eye of the actual modeler.

Rendered to the "satisfaction" of viewers, makes an ugly mess, IRL. 

Whether that "explains" some of the heavy-handed techniques much in vogue in videos is probably yet another question.

Oh My!

    I would take you up on that too. Trouble is, Your winters are too hard on me.

As you alluded to, the primer job with Mr Surfacer looked so cool, makes it hard to move forward. Been there, get it.

But you outdid yourself again with the paint and wash. Glad you had good results with the Vallejo wash. I have some on the shelf, seeing your results on a large project may help give me confidence to try it.

Coming along beautifully.

And a couple of random comments;

I haven't been to breakfast in too long and your pic above sure made me miss it! And a group breakfast with the Bakster WIP groupies sure would be a hoot. I would do a road trip for that.

Regarding Joe Rix, though I haven't spoken with him in quite a long time, I did speak with a fellow forum member 2 days ago who has. I was told that though the flooding was bad in Moab, Joe and his home/family were unaffected and he is doing fine.

Tanker-Builder

Breakfast?

     Shoot, I would sit down to that any time. Where's my Chair?

 

Your chair is waiting for you. If I lived near ya, I would even treat.

Breakfast?

     Shoot, I would sit down to that any time. Where's my Chair?

PS: Hopefully, Bruce doesn't sniff out my breakfast. Could be trouble.

For the gator eyes light assembly I had cut and fitted styrene to act as an LED holder. The LED and LED holder is glued in using ca.

One thing I learned early on is that there is a ton of light leak around the gator eye housings. The pieces don't have a great fit, but worse than that ... there are huge open cavities below the housing. So, as shown below, I incapsulated the LED, the holder, and I filled some of the cavities with Apoxie Sculpt. As well, the epoxy is the catalyst to secure the assembly to the boat

The light leak solution worked well. For reference the image is greatly underexposed so as to not blowout the LEDs.

Also worked on but not shown: I attached the boats anchors, and I fitted the screw and deck chains readying them for paint. The screw took some fitting. Good I checked that before paint.

And before all this, a breakfast of champions.

Tanker-Builder

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Thank You! 

 

Lol. I am glad to hear this. It would have been tragic if it wasn't because I already made a purchase for it.

I think you will like this night inspiration, TB. For a bit though, I must keep you in suspense. I must keep the anticipation alive. Just like Capns Bruce, you will never know when it strikes. 

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Thank You! 

Gamera

Bakster: The paint and washes look perfect! Great job replicating the film!!!

 

Hey thanks Gam!

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

That is what I was shooting for...

 

 

That's incredible.  And despite how the camera can wash subtle details away.

 

Thanks, Capn. I took a look at the model last night verses the pics and boy, the camera dropped more data than I thought. You don't see a lot of rust in the images, if any. And the color is skewed a little towards red. I will put more effort into imaging it at the final reveal. I think the only way I will get closer is if I shoot it in RAW, maybe HDR, and go from there. Thanks again for appreciating it!

PS: I may have come up with a plan on how to display it. If it works, like I hope, it should be cool. Hopefully, more on that in the near future.

The idea came to me in the dead of night. 

"The tricky part is not the comparing the scars, it's in not attracting Bruce to come crash the party "

Lol..  Good one Capn!

Bakster

You sir-- are too kind. I wish we didn't live a world away because I can see you'd be a good friend to have around. I think we'd be up late telling many a yarn. 

 

The tricky part is not the comparing the scars, it's in not attracting Bruce to come crash the party

Bakster

That is what I was shooting for...

That's incredible.  And despite how the camera can wash subtle details away.

Bakster: The paint and washes look perfect! Great job replicating the film!!!

Dodgy

I've now got the Seaview and the Nautilus is on its way. They will be a great pair. Lots of fun to look forward to.

Dodgy

 

 

I've now got the Seaview and the Nautilus is on its way. They will be a great pair. Lots of fun to look forward to.

Dodgy

Way to go, Ferg. Whatever u build will be its own creation and awesome on its own. It doesn't need lights or a fancy parlor to look good. A curbside model would even be awesome. Looking forward to seeing yours!

Mate it won't be like yours, but I've just ordered the kit.

Dodgy