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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, July 7, 2022 6:49 PM

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(that's all from the backstories, which you can find at Bryan Krueger's MaschinenKrieger forum, http://maschinenkrueger.com/forum/index.php?board=26.0)

Baron, thanks for sharing the link.  That is one Ma.K. filled site!   Looking forward to having more time to explore.  Ma.K. is going to be putting a serious dent in my pocket book. Smile

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, July 7, 2022 10:03 AM

Yeah, the first model armored fighting suits the Strahl forces developed had clear canopies/windshields and side window panels (mostly because Kow used helicopter fuselages for the torsos!) I think the mercs developed the first suit with an enclosed cockpit and optics for the pilot, but I may be mistaken about that.  Strahl developed a suit with an enclosed cockpit but with a small window (10"x10" or so?), the Nixe, and then the Melusine with a fully enclosed cockpit and an optical system.

(that's all from the backstories, which you can find at Bryan Krueger's MaschinenKrieger forum, http://maschinenkrueger.com/forum/index.php?board=26.0)

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 7:07 PM

Tanker-Builder
I managed to find a combo kit of the Windowed Machine and the Other one like what is pictured here.

Hey TB, didn't find an image but I'm guessing your more recent acquisition was a kit like this one?

gustavandmlusine

Tanker-Builder
They are NOT easy to find in New Braunfels ,Texas. Now that said, Yes, I did try to order on line and got two of those ridiculous Transformer looking Dudes, With all the wings and other wingy looking features. Not at all what I wanted! The Japanese seem quite taken with them.

I think it's amazing you've found a kit locally!  If I want anything from Ma.K. it has to have been ordered online. 

I enjoy much of the creativity that appears in the model kits from Japan.  Though many are not my cup of tea, there is such a cornucopia of model options that rarely is there difficulty in finding something that catches my interest.

Tanker-Builder
I personally like the idea of the Fighting suit like the Melusine because the Science Fiction I am reading right now has a lot of these in the future. Especially after Earth was invaded by Aliens! The fighting suits are standard fare on the Orbital ships and Stations, Scout Craft and "Marine" type fighting units.The weapons are some interesting things too. Especially on "Drop-Ships"

I'm an avid sci-fi reader and am always searching for new titles and authors.  Any qualms with sharing the title of the book?

Tanker-Builder
They are sure fun to work on and also a nice break from Ships and Cars! Plus, so far every part fits like it's supposed to!

Couldn't agree more!  Big Smile

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Posted by PhoenixG on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 6:44 PM

Real G
I found MaK (SF3D at the time) at Woolworths in 1985. I had no idea what they were, but they were so different from the missile and gun festooned Japanese robots of the time. They felt like sci-fi kits for grown-ups, with their restrained armament, faux kraft paper boxes, and multi-media parts.

My active interest in modeling along with the ability to acquire models fell right in between the disappearance and re-emergence of SF3D/Ma.K. While I may wonder at the "what might have been", I have no regrets in how I spent my hard earned cash on Star Trek/Wars and Macross kits. :)

Perhaps it was better for me to be exposed to them now.  I am a much more patient modeler and willing to spend more than a weekend on a build.  Giving me much greater satisfaction with the results.

Real G
And then the Renaissance of SF3D dawned in 1999, reborn (and rebranded) as MaK. Most of the old kits reappeared, Hasegawa and Wave joined in with new kits, and suddenly it was all new again! Big Smile

I am pleased to have the opportunity to enjoy them now.  Very much looking forward to continuing to explore the medium!  Big Smile

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 8:24 AM

Hi;

      I managed to find a combo kit of the Windowed Machine and the Other one like what is pictured here. They are NOT easy to find in New Braunfels ,Texas. Now that said, Yes, I did try to order on line and got two of those ridiculous  Transformer looking Dudes, With all the wings and other wingy looking features. Not at all what I wanted!

      The Japanese seem quite taken with them. I personally like the idea of the Fighting suit like the Melusine because the Science Fiction I am reading right now has a lot of these in the future. Especially after Earth was invaded by Aliens! The fighting suits are standard fare on the Orbital ships and Stations, Scout Craft and "Marine" type fighting units.The weapons are some interesting things too. Especially on "Drop-Ships"

      You are right about their assault on the Hobby budget though. These things ain't cheap. My pair cost almost fifty Bucks and they are 1/35, But! They are sure fun to work on and also a nice break from Ships and Cars! Plus, so far every part fits like it's supposed to!

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, July 6, 2022 2:19 AM

Ah yes, those halcyon days of carefree childhood!  Yeah, I was astonished that my sis and her cohorts could smuggle a big radio casette player into the theater.  She must have bundled it up in a jacket or something.

I found MaK (SF3D at the time) at Woolworths in 1985.  I had no idea what they were, but they were so different from the missile and gun festooned Japanese robots of the time.  They felt like sci-fi kits for grown-ups, with their restrained armament, faux kraft paper boxes, and multi-media parts.

Interesting that Squadron/MMD imported the kits before the anime tidal wave hit the US.  Nobody seemed to "get" the concept. They were always on sale in the Squadron flyer, until they abruptly disappeared due to Nitto going bankrupt.

And then the Renaissance of SF3D dawned in 1999, reborn (and rebranded) as MaK.  Most of the old kits reappeared, Hasegawa and Wave joined in with new kits, and suddenly it was all new again!  Big Smile

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 11:35 PM

Successfully sneaking a full size ghetto blaster into a movie theater, now that's impressive.

Uh oh, I feel a trip down nostalgia lane coming up!

I try not to have delusions of granduer.  I was still a wee child when Star Wars hit the theaters, but when older our local library had movies on 8mm you could check out.  That's how I saw Star Wars for the first time.  Projected onto our dining room wall with subtitles because our projector didn't have audio!  However, for Empire the parents splurged and rented a CED player.  Those CED cartridges were huge.  As big as a laserdisc and half the video quality.  Big Smile

I too gained my knowledge of Star Wars through audio tape recordings.  Back during the days of tape rental I figured out I could hook up the audio RCA output from the VCR to the phono input on the home stereo and record it via the tape deck. All three movies on 5 audio cassettes.  Absolute bliss! 

Are home stereo systems even a thing any more?

Your friend was so lucky start with two awesome movies right away!  I cast no stones regarding Grease.  There may be a copy of it residing somewhere within my domicile.  Smile

Our first VHS movie was Top Gun.  Stick out tongue  It was on sale for a measley $50!  So cheap! 

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Posted by Real G on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 8:36 PM

Your abilities to source obcsure lines from Star Wars is impressive...most impressive.  Your Jedi powers betray you, young Padawan.

As for me, I credit my sister and her friends for sneaking a full sized ghetto-blaster into the Cinerama and audio taping the whole movie.  We listened to that tape over and over again.  You have to remember this was 1977, before Home Video was common, and there was NO streaming service!  Stick out tongue  Although I do recall movies on VHS at the time selling for $80(!!!).  One of my friend's dad bought Alien and Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.  We watched those tapes into the ground.  We didn't bother with his dad's copy of Grease though.  Big Smile

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Posted by PhoenixG on Tuesday, July 5, 2022 6:40 PM

Real G
"Yeah, I heard it's really something... What was that?" "It's just gas, don't worry about it." "You had burritos for lunch?" "Naw, why do you ask?" "I dunno, something smells like an old man." "Must be the gas."

ROFLMAO!

The scene as originally written and performed before they dubbed over it and redacted the manuscript. ;)

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Posted by Real G on Sunday, July 3, 2022 2:44 PM

PhoenixG

 Speaking of fun.  Have you seen the new XP-38?

"Yeah, I heard it's really something...  What was that?"

"It's just gas, don't worry about it."

"You had burritos for lunch?"

"Naw, why do you ask?"

"I dunno, something smells like an old man."

"Must be the gas."

Stick out tongue

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Posted by PhoenixG on Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:53 PM

Real G

PhoenixG,

Yes you have set the bar for your figure painting.  To me, the most common rookie mistake that spoils a face is "fried egg eye".  You know the one - big, oversize white blobs with pinpoint pupils.  Your figure shows none of that.  We will be expecting nothing less from now on!  Stick out tongue

I look forward to when you tackle the Falke.  I liked the design so much that I tried scratchbuilding one back in the 1990s.  But Hasegawa's kit rendered the effort redundant.  With Hasegawa and Wave releasing new tool kits, it is definitely a good time to model MaK!

I was initially skeptical of Bandai's 1/144 kits until I saw finished examples.  And the little mini kits are equally nice.  They are all definitely fun to build.  Fun...  Now that's a word I have not heard in a long time.  A long time.

 

The other half of that is trying to use pure white for the eyes, an off white works best.  Regardless of color, I found it challenging to apply just the right amount of white.  Don't know how many times I had to erase the blob of white with a damp cotton swab.  Eventually got it close enough that was able to use a a little bit of brown wash around the eye to hide the rest. 

I shall endeavor not to let my future efforts dissapoint! Big Smile

Speaking of fun.  Have you seen the new XP-38?

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Posted by Real G on Saturday, July 2, 2022 1:38 AM

PhoenixG,

Yes you have set the bar for your figure painting.  To me, the most common rookie mistake that spoils a face is "fried egg eye".  You know the one - big, oversize white blobs with pinpoint pupils.  Your figure shows none of that.  We will be expecting nothing less from now on!  Stick out tongue

I look forward to when you tackle the Falke.  I liked the design so much that I tried scratchbuilding one back in the 1990s.  But Hasegawa's kit rendered the effort redundant.  With Hasegawa and Wave releasing new tool kits, it is definitely a good time to model MaK!

I was initially skeptical of Bandai's 1/144 kits until I saw finished examples.  And the little mini kits are equally nice.  They are all definitely fun to build.  Fun...  Now that's a word I have not heard in a long time.  A long time.

“Ya ya ya, unicorn papoi!”

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Posted by PhoenixG on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:35 PM

Real G

PhoenixG, you really powered through that build!  Most impressive.  Your face painting skills are really good!

So what's next?  A Strahl bad guy?

 

Thanks RealG!  I couldn't help but hear Vader's voice when reading your post.  It must been becase of the, "Most Impressive".  Smile

LOL.  Seems like the face of the pilot is the most popular part of the model!  Now I'm worried everyone's expectations will be really high for the next face I have to paint.  Don't know if I can handle that kind of pressure.  I think the next Ma.K. is gonna have a closed opaque cockpit! Big Smile

Ma.K. is definitely a build more of and as luck would have it there is a Falke waiting in the wings.  However, it will be waiting a little longer yet.  Did so many new things with the Raccoon that going back to something more familiar for a moment will be a welcome break. 

To that end I just started working on another of the 1/144 Bandai Star Wars vehicles.  They're speedy little builds which let me work on honing my painting skills.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Friday, July 1, 2022 6:05 PM

Gamera

My apologies Phoenix, I was going to comment and then forgot. Looks awesome! Great work! The figure came out great and I like the matte black too! The black gives not only a steampunk look but makes it look heavy and solid!

 

No worries!  Glad you like it! I think that sense of weightiness is intrinsic to the line.  The sculptor did a great job of conveying it in form.  But the right colors can enhance it further.  I'd think you'd want these to feel solid.  Can't imaging too many people would be interested in climbing into one if it didn't offer some protective advantage.

Can you imagine the quartermaster introducing the new pilot to their machine?

"Climb on in!  It offers the same level of protection as wet tissue paper and a person on foot can easily out maneuever you, but you've got this awesome gun!  Oh. You're recon.  No gun.  Well... Good luck!"

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Posted by Real G on Friday, July 1, 2022 6:03 PM

PhoenixG, you really powered through that build!  Most impressive.  Your face painting skills are really good!

So what's next?  A Strahl bad guy?

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Posted by PhoenixG on Friday, July 1, 2022 5:47 PM

SplatterMan
Nice touches to the head; it has real character. I used to paint miniatures ages ago and their expressions always looked lifeless and robotic. I could never make them look human.

Thank you Splatterman!  I know exactly what you mean.  Did lot's of research on figure painting and this was my first attempt at painting a human face.  Must have used something like 4-5 different reference sources to figure this out.  Turned out to be not as involved as feared, but without those references don't think I would have been able to achieve the final result. 

I'd be lying if I were to say I wasn't a little pleased with the responses to it.  Big Smile

SplatterMan
Also the satin black camo colour scheme makes me think of unpainted cast iron. Almost steampunk. It contrasts well with the gloss black arms which look more futuristic. Definately gives the feel of a suit that's been through the wars and kept going by scrounging for parts.

Success!!  Exactly what I was hoping for.   Though I am a little disappointed in the weathering.  I spent several hours on it only to discover the black color hid most of it!  Something new for me to learn how to do.  Apply convincing weathering on dark colors. :)

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 1, 2022 11:49 AM

My apologies Phoenix, I was going to comment and then forgot. Looks awesome! Great work! The figure came out great and I like the matte black too! The black gives not only a steampunk look but makes it look heavy and solid!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SplatterMan on Thursday, June 30, 2022 11:39 PM

Great job Phoenix, I enjoyed following along. Nice touches to the head; it has real character. I used to paint miniatures ages ago and their expressions always looked lifeless and robotic. I could never make them look human.

Also the satin black camo colour scheme makes me think of unpainted cast iron. Almost steampunk. It contrasts well with the gloss black arms which look more futuristic. Definately gives the feel of a suit that's been through the wars and kept going by scrounging for parts.

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, June 27, 2022 9:51 PM

Bakster

Hey PhoenixG, sweet work! What a cool project and you delivered a beauty! 

"Turns out the answer is simple.  Cute cat videos! "


Lol. They always make ME smile!

Thanks for sharing your build. I enjoyed it.

 

Glad you liked it!  Thanks for joining and coming along for the show. Smile

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, June 27, 2022 9:49 PM

the Baron

Nice finish, PG!  And I like the antenna, too.  And I'm glad any tip I gave was useful.  That's what the hobby is all about!

 

Thank you for compliments Baron!

You saved me from raging at the ploycaps and losing a large chunk of time in the fruitless pursuit of a better method to paint them.  In the photos I cleverly hid all the spots where the paint peeled off during assembly, but the truth is I just got lucky.  Most of the joints were naturally hidden.  Smile

I'm prepped for the next Ma.K. model with the acquisition of some Aves Apoxie Sculpt you recommended. Looking forward to trying it out! Yes Big Smile

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, June 27, 2022 12:31 PM

Nice finish, PG!  And I like the antenna, too.  And I'm glad any tip I gave was useful.  That's what the hobby is all about!

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, June 27, 2022 9:42 AM

Hey PhoenixG, sweet work! What a cool project and you delivered a beauty! 

"Turns out the answer is simple.  Cute cat videos! "


Lol. They always make ME smile!

Thanks for sharing your build. I enjoyed it.

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Monday, June 27, 2022 2:31 AM

Whew, it's been a marathon weekend!  Got in the groove and pieces were falling into place and just couldn't stop till it was done!

Discovered that 22AWG hookup wire is the perfect size for the power lines that aren't part of the kit and do a great job of looking like they were plugged in!  Just strip off the insulation at the ends, drill a hole to match the wire guage, insert the wire and voila!  A cable that looks plugged in.  Turns out it wasn't half bad for the whip antenna either.

wires

The original plan was to finish this with a flat or satin coat, but after applying the gloss coat for the decals I found myself enamored with the look and decided to keep it.

Before getting to the pictures I'd like to give a shout out to RealG and Baron for sharing their knowledge and experience with Ma.K.  Their suggestions and input had a big influence on how I approached this build.  I truly feel it helped make it a better build than it otherwise would have been.  Thank you!

Onto the pictures!!

Now I have to ask myself, why is a guy sitting in a war machine looking so happy?

happy head

Turns out the answer is simple.  Cute cat videos!  (Thanks for the idea RealG!)

kitty

rightside

left side

back side

And now with the hatch buttoned down.

tincan

tincanside

canback

 

This build was a ton of fun and am looking forward to my next Ma.K. project!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Friday, June 24, 2022 2:08 PM

JimC2020

Damn that looks so cool! The paint job on the cockpit and pilot is awesome, crisp, just great!

 

Thanks JimC!  Glad you are enjoying it!

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Posted by JimC2020 on Thursday, June 23, 2022 6:57 PM

Damn that looks so cool! The paint job on the cockpit and pilot is awesome, crisp, just great!

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, June 23, 2022 3:14 PM

the Baron

May I ask, what's your purpose for the black primer/undercoat?

I use a matte black enamel primer on my MaKs as the first step in a weathering process.  Black enamel primer, then water-based acrylics over it for finish colors.  Then I use a green scouring pad to scuff the finish colors to reveal the black undercoat, to show wear and tear.

Is your undercoat to impart the tone to the finish coats over it?

 

Absolutely can ask!

The primer is grey.  The black is actually the finish color I had been planning on.  The idea was a night recon and therefore a blacked out SAFS.  Didn't think I could get a grey to the point I wanted.  The sheen on the paint isn't a coat either.  It seems to happen when adding flow improver or thinner to the paints. 

I'd read somewhere that pure black or pure white were bad color choices, but thought in this case it could work.  My effots confirmed that pure black is still a bad idea. Big Smile

I was able to add the dark gray blue to the pads last night and liked it enough that I attempted to use it as a highlight on the rest.  This time I used Vallejo satin clear coat to dull the shine. Needed to get see it closer to finished product to decide if the whole color scheme was going to be kept or scrapped.

Here's the most recent test fit with the changes to the color.   It is looking much better!

grey1

grey2

grey3

Thinking it is ready for the camo.

Cut some templates a couple of days ago for camo patterns because my freehand airbrushing is nonexistent.

templates

The scouring pad is a brilliant idea!  Now I wish that had been my intent.  Totally going to use it on the cammo paint to wear it.   Thanks for sharing that method!

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, June 23, 2022 11:24 AM

May I ask, what's your purpose for the black primer/undercoat?

I use a matte black enamel primer on my MaKs as the first step in a weathering process.  Black enamel primer, then water-based acrylics over it for finish colors.  Then I use a green scouring pad to scuff the finish colors to reveal the black undercoat, to show wear and tear.

Is your undercoat to impart the tone to the finish coats over it?

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, June 23, 2022 12:19 AM

Apparently black goes with everything but black.

pose1

pose2

Turns out there can be such a thing as too much black.  The shoulders are grey because they were in the "do not touch" section which was serindipitous.  It inspired me to try this as a two tones suit.  The second color is going to use the same dark grey as the joints but not a heavy coat. Just enough to show it is a different color.

Thinking it will work best on things like the knee, shoulder, and hip pads.  Hoping to get that done tonight so another test fit can be done tomorrow.  Fingers crossed...

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Posted by PhoenixG on Thursday, June 23, 2022 12:10 AM

Gamera

Great job on the face Phoenix, hard to believe you're new to this! 

And I love the cat video idea and your implimentation of it! 

 

 
Thanks Gamera!
Printed the decals today and they are drying.  I'm excited to see how it turns out!

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