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Moebius Seaview 1:350 scale WIP

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:32 PM

littletimmy
There was a "rumor" going around Hollywood for year's after the show, that the cast ATE Arnold after shooting the last episode.  The ENTIRE cast denies this !

I never heard that rumor. I WANT to believe it's fiction.

littletimmy
My poor dELL, with it's Window's XP , has finally reached the end of it's serviceable life.

Oh man--what a bummer. Seriously.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:31 PM

Sorry I kind of derailed things.

Way to go on the closure (the Seaview, not Green Acres). Using epoxy was probably a good idea.

Timmy, sorry to hear of your Dell. I have one must be 10+ yrs old, I thought they ran forever. Guess not.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:25 PM

As much as I would like to continue talking about Arnold, Eb, Mr Haney, and Mr Douglas, I should probably say something about this project.

I closed up the bow. There is no going back if I forgot something.

Below: There is not much to see here. I am documenting it for the sake of continuity.

Before I put that bottom plate in, I carefully spread a small amount of epoxy all along a groove that the plate rests in. Why epoxy? It seemed like it offered me less chance of messing up the surrounding paint. It is thick, and you have more control where it goes. At the same time, it gives a pretty good bond. Lastly-- it cures in 5 minutes.

The bottom of the sub will be enclosed in the pedestal. No-one is going to see the ugly joins. However-- I will try filling, sanding, and painting them. Hopefully, without destroying any of the work that I have already done. Why bother? I need the practice.

Normally-- my go-to filler is CA. Not today, and for two reasons.

1. I don't want to risk CA leaching into the observation compartment, gassing around, and maybe fouling up the windows. The window is encased in a coating of PFC. But, why take the chance. If that would happen, I can't fix it.

2. CA can require some aggressive sanding. It just seems to me that it could increase my chance of encroaching into painted areas of where I don't want to go.

I will try using Tamiya filler.

Below: The area around the light will be dang tricky. This looks huge in the image-- and it's not. 

That is that.

 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 8:08 PM

There was a "rumor" going around Hollywood for year's after the show, that the cast ATE Arnold after shooting the last episode.  The ENTIRE cast denies this !

As for my Postimage account,

My poor dELL, with it's Window's XP , has finally reached the end of it's serviceable life.

There was some sort of update and now I cannot access my Postimage account.

I have to get a new ( or newer than mine ) compootor !

This mean's I wont be posting any picture's for a while....... I can still "Draw" a pretty decent stick figure.........  and mail it to you.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:58 PM

Arnold was such a talented actor that he was considered for the lead role in Gone with the Wind. Unbelievable to think that Clark Gable almost lost out to a pig. Cough!

Is it politicly correct to use the word pig for a pig? Should I use swine? Piggy? Porker? 

So many questions that I have.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:35 PM

I'm afraid Arnold is off to that living room with the tv in the sky, along with the rest of the cast. Sad

Wait, far as I know, Eb is still with us.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:52 PM

Greg

If we are going to discuss Green Acres, you have my absolute full and undivided attention, then. 

Where is Arnold Ziffel? Inquiring minds want to know. 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:39 PM

If we are going to discuss Green Acres, you have my absolute full and undivided attention, then.

Hey, I thought we had an animated 'eating popcorn' gif here. Guess not.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:20 PM

littletimmy

I wanted to post my version of MR Haney's truck. But apparently Postimage is down for maintenance.

 

 I want to see it when you can get it working.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:18 PM

littletimmy

                                             L    O    L    !

I was about to go into a MR. Hainy sale's pitch but you beat me to it !!!

I find it "VERY" amusing that we both thought of Green Acre's .

Yes I grew up with Green acre's, Petty Coat Junction, Beverly hillbilly's ECT......

And yes..... I'''m "Custom" making you some Saber tooth chickens. But I'm having trouble feeding them..... they are kind of AGGRESSIVE !!! ... And that one has a stick !

 

Ha! I knew it! I KNEW you were related to Haney.

You can't make this stuff up about the Haney pitch, and that I beat you to it. And yeah... I watched all those shows too. 

Well, okay about the custom Saber tooth chickens. Just one thing. No hidden fees! I don't want to hear about image posting fees and such. I know how you Haneys get! Lol.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:14 PM

I wanted to post my version of MR Haney's truck. But apparently Postimage is down for maintenance.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:11 PM

                                             L    O    L    !

I was about to go into a MR. Hainy sale's pitch but you beat me to it !!!

I find it "VERY" amusing that we both thought of Green Acre's .

Yes I grew up with Green acre's, Petty Coat Junction, Beverly hillbilly's ECT......

And yes..... I'''m "Custom" making you some Saber tooth chickens. But I'm having trouble feeding them..... they are kind of AGGRESSIVE !!! ... And that one has a stick !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, January 15, 2018 8:30 PM

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, January 15, 2018 8:06 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
Then I'd have to feed and clean up after them.

 

That's what the Saber Tooth Chickens are for ..... What ??? You dont have Saber Tooth Chicken's ???? 

 

No. I don't have Saber Tooth Chickens. Something tells me that you are gonna sell me some at a really good price. Did you ever watch Green Acres? Are you related to Mr Haney?

Smile

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, January 15, 2018 7:49 PM

Bakster
Then I'd have to feed and clean up after them.

That's what the Saber Tooth Chickens are for ..... What ??? You dont have Saber Tooth Chicken's ???? 

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, January 15, 2018 7:30 PM

littletimmy

If your looking for a power source...... I could loan you the 2 hampster's powering my computor.

 

Lol. I don't know. Then I'd have to feed and clean up after them. Sounds like work.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Monday, January 15, 2018 7:13 PM

If your looking for a power source...... I could loan you the 2 hampster's powering my computor.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, January 15, 2018 3:50 PM

Hodakamax
Hey Steve! Check out my new frivolous and mindless car project under Autos. It's just a quick mind rester and change of view. My wife won it at the last model show. I just couldn't imagine me building a stock '80 Vette. Modification will be the name of the game! Join the cheering section, all ideas at least considered. All for fun! 

Hey Max--I will check it out!  It will be good to see another WIP in the house. Yes

Hodakamax
PS--I still have the extra Uranium if you need some. Or was that thing fusion powered? Kinda low on Deuterium but there's a lot of it that around.

Yeah I don't know anymore. It is probably closer to Alkaline powered. High tech stuff...  Idea

 

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, January 15, 2018 2:40 PM

Hey Steve! Check out my new frivolous and mindless car project under Autos. It's just a quick mind rester and change of view. My wife won it at the last model show. I just couldn't imagine me building a stock '80 Vette. Modification will be the name of the game! Join the cheering section, all ideas at least considered. All for fun! 

Max

PS--I still have the extra Uranium if you need some. Or was that thing fusion powered? Kinda low on Deuterium but there's a lot of it that around. Geeked

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM
Hey Max!  Is “Epic” an anagram for an amazingly epic boondoggle? LOL. You guys are probably sick of seeing this WIP by now.
 
“Connections to the reactor secure? “You have no idea how serendipitous this is. While I was working on the sub yesterday I heard something fall to the floor. I thought, “what the heck was that?” I look. What do I see? I see a wire lying on the floor. What the.
I had attached a wire extension to the main wire feed leading through the sub and to the main lights. I was dumbfounded that it came apart. I probably did a temporary connection and forgot that I did it as temporary. Good thing it happened now. In fact—this is one of things that I need to do before buttoning her up. That is… to check all the connections. 

Funny about the lead pants. It could make it tough to go to the bathroom.Boo Hoo

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, January 15, 2018 8:51 AM

My, what an epic journey you've traveled already! Connections to the reactor secure? Don't forget to wear your lead pants while fooling with that thing! Geeked

Free advice,

Max

Hey, everthing is lookin' good!

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, January 14, 2018 3:39 PM

 

The remaining ballast vents are painted, and then some.

I made a side trip in all of this. I sprayed a layer of Dullcote as well. The reason? Well-- as I was prying up the masking tape with a hobby knife I began to notice shiny marks at those locations. I was very careful not to scrape up the paint. Unfortunately, there was just enough pressure to change the paint from flat to shiny. You could see the marks in just the right lighting. That will not do, hence the Dullcote to remove them.

The Dullcote does change the overall look to the finish, but... I think that the pros and cons balance things out. I gained a little protection on the paint, and, the Dullcote seems to balance out the contrast extremes between the various shades of color. Overall, I am good with it.

One side note on this. I didn't have any Testers thinner to use with this, and my local HobbyTown didn't stock it. They recommend that I use Tamiya Lacquer Thinner in its place. So... I purchased it. It cut well, and, the Dulcote sprayed like a dream. The coating leveled out beautifully. I don't have enough experience to say that Tamiyas thinner is better than any other. Just saying--that it worked really really well.

 

Below: The window is glued in place. I used epoxy to glue it in.

Below: I made a strap out of styrene to help anchor the observation deck. What you can't really see (noted by the arrows) is that I folded the ends to align with the angle of the hull. A tweak here, a tweak there, I got the deck to align in a straight and level line.

The front of the deck is epoxied down, as is the LED bow light.

Below: Views looking at the exterior since the mods.

 

Some odds and ends, some final checking, and it is ready to be closed up. I will probably start that this week.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, January 7, 2018 9:20 PM

steve5

I think the light's will look great in the dio steve . 

 

Thanks Steve. It really should...

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, January 7, 2018 9:14 PM

Deleted my last post to Steve 5. Old post, got confused.

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, January 7, 2018 9:00 PM

I think the light's will look great in the dio steve . 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:37 PM

littletimmy
I would have just "freehanded" the vent's. (With a paint brush ) Then gone back with a Q- Tip and cleaned off any paint that got on the hull.

That would be easier but I did not seal the paint with dullcote. So, it would be one big mess if I tried that. The reason I didn't seal it is because I don't like what dullcote does to mute weathering. For this build, I am keeping it coating free.

I thought that in the future I might build another one of these, but, on that one, try to open up those vents by grinding the inner hull side until they open up. It would be a precarious job, and, a massive amount of work. Not sure how well it would work either.

Thinking out loud...

In some ways I regret doing this as a dio because much of the sub will be burried in the seascape. This would have looked really nice mounted to a base... lights and all. We shall see. If the dio comes out nice, I won't look back.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, January 7, 2018 7:26 PM

WOW, ... That's a lot of tape !

I would have just "freehanded" the vent's. (With a paint brush ) Then gone back with a Q- Tip and cleaned off any paint that got on the hull.

I have a 1/72 scale sub that I "PAINSTAKINGLY" cut out the flooding vent's. It came out jagged and kinda hairy. Had to use a bit of liquid glue to eat away the "shard's" of leftover plastic. Sanding only got it so far. 

Painting the vent's is definetly easier.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, January 7, 2018 6:41 PM

 

Ballast Vents

One side is done. As you might imagine this is time consuming. Too bad the manufacturer didn't mold the hull with actual openings. I guess that is asking too much of them. Cough!

Below: You can see some of the masking. It is more work than this though. I couldn't find masking that was fine enough that would correctly cover the detail between each opening. And trying to trim some would give me inconsistent results. So--I staggered the masking, paint, pull the masking, remask the remaining vents, paint, and pull the mask.

 

Below: How it looks. It is a lot of work but worth it I think.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, January 2, 2018 6:46 PM

littletimmy

You toned it down "just right" for a sub that's only been at sea for a month or so. 

That was the goal. I see this sub as a well funded enterprise where it is well taken care of. 

Thanks for the kudos! And yes... the home stretch is in sight. I see a light and I am pretty sure that it's not a freight train a coming. Hoping! I'll find out for sure when it hits me. With luck... I'll have the ballast vents done by this weekend. When those are done... I will turn my attn back to the observation deck. I can install the windows and the deck. Then, attach the bottom plate. From there maybe back to the conning tower by installing the fibre optics. When that is done... it is back to the seascape. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, January 2, 2018 6:30 PM

Hey Tim! I love what you made. I was wondering where you were going with the John Wayne TP and now I see. Very good!  Thanks for posting it here. I will check out that thread soon.

This made me smile after a miserable post holiday day at work. 

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