heller 1/150 passat

hope these couple of pics help gregory . I think this is about the time photobucket tried ripping everyone off , so I just stopped .

thank's guy's

steve5

glued a piece of styrene over the top for some insurance .

 

Nice recovery Steve. 

Beautiful build so far Steve! I'm really enjoying the wip.

Steve

glued a piece of styrene over the top for some insurance .

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what a disaster , snapped the lower yard off of the large mast , was able to drill a hole through the plastic , and insert a .8mm brass rod , bit if CA glue back in business .

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thank's gentlemen , appreciate the information .

Steve,

In my book - "Seamanship in the Age of Sail" by John Harland - I found on page 54 a reference to the nomenclature of German ship masts as given by a German writer named F. L. Middendorf. Middendorf suggests the best names for the masts in a fully rigged five masted ship are, from the front of the ship:

Fock-mast (foremast)
Gross-mast (large mast*)
Mittel-mast (medium mast)
Haupt-mast (mainmast*)
Kreuz-mast (cross mast) - or, in the case of a 5 masted barque, Besahn mast.

* gross and haupt are both synonymous with the English 'main'".

For the four masted ships one just omits the Mittel-mast.

I hope this is of some interest.

steve5

could someone tell me what the 2 middle mast's are called ,I know the fore and mizzen , is it main front and rear ??

It seems to have varied a bit.

The most usual nomenclature seems to be, from the front: Fore, main, mizzen and jigger (alternatively "spanker"). In effect, they have added a new mast at the end, not inserted one into the middle.

A variant (perhaps Germany-centric): Fore, main, middle, mizzen. Here they _have_ inserted a new one into the middle of the set.

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finally able to get on with some more rigging , [ my back went on me again ]

I am only doing the bare amount of rigging on this ship , I believe that's how it is in dock .

could someone tell me what the 2 middle mast's are called ,I know the fore and mizzen , is it main front and rear ??

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thank's templer  , this so different to what I am use to , but really enjoyable too .

steve

Just want to jump in and say what a pleasure it is watching this come along.

thank's steve , started my rat lines , the rigging on this ship is very different from anything I have done before .

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just noticed I forgot to wax my lines

Steve, nice project and nice work.

thank's capnmac82 , I didn't even consider wire , and I should have , I think you might be right about the frustration part too unfortunately .

For footropes, sometimes the answer is annealed steel wire, as it can be bent to an ppropriate shape.

But that might be very frustrating for yards already on the mast.

this is the site with the pictures I have been following

http://www.jans-sajt.se/contents/Navigation/Galleries/Germany_Passat.htm

thankyou Staale S , falconers dictionary went into the favourite's ,

I tried putting the footropes on , I wasn't doing a very good job , so I took them off

I found some pics of the actual ship , I think this is how it is rigged , if I am wrong , I am open to any suggestions or critisism's

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Google Translate can be useful in such cases, it gives "step", "footboard" and "stool" as translations of marche-pieds which should give you the idea that it is something one stands on, from which the mental leap to "footrope" is not a very long one. "Poulie" is correctly translated as "pulley".

A plain Google search for "marche-pied rigging" (without the quotes) gives a number of results in google books, the second of which is Falconer's dictionary of marine terms. The page in question identifies "Horse" as being the same as "marche-pied", usefully indicating that it is "a rope reaching from the middle of a yard to its extremity...for the sailors to tread on", without actually calling it a footrope.

cheer's gmorrison ,as you could probably tell , I had no idea .

steve5

"M" is "marche-pieds", or footrope. 

"P" is "poulies". or pulley. There's apparently a detail showing how to tie it off.

"Guillaume"

I need some help , the instructions show where the blocks go , and what goes where , but in french , I think P means a double block and M a single , is this right , can any-one please shed some light

scott , thank's for the nice word's

bill ,with your skills I'm sure you will do a beautiful job , [any chance of some pic's ]when I started this kit , I wasn't too sure about it , but the more I get into it , the more I'm appreciating it . the instruction's are still crappy , but I'm getting through it .

gmorrison , thank's for the colour

prof jtilley , I sort of guessed that was the case , but the instruction's said oak , and I thought the deck is wood , and they do look good together . but for future reference ,thank's for the proper colour name

Steve,

The more your model gets fitted out, the more impressive it becomes.  

I just noticed this thread.  You are building a beautiful model, and I am impressed with your work.  Heller intrigues me; for every beautifully done model kit, there seems to be a fantasy ship as well.  For example, they are re-releasing their five-masted barque Cap Horn later this year. This ship never existed. However, it converts easily into one of the few five-masted barques.  The Flying P-Line had a very near-sister to ,  named Petosi, one of the Flying P-Liners.  Being based on the Preussen, both share many features.  This is convenient because the kit called the Cap Horn is also based strongly on the Heller kit of the Preussen.  I am currently working on that kit for my son.  Your work is inspiring me.

Bill Morrison

Floquil (old Polly Scale) has a nice color named "Depot Buff".