U-Boat 534 (1/72 ) divided in 5 parts

steve5

adrian , you are a true artist mate , I'm flat out making duck @#@$ with solder , what you are doing is incredible .

steve5

 

Just need a little and very , very long practice...that's all!!, thanks you and I hope to hear you again in the future...Good

Adrian

Thanks you Chango!!, will be in touch!!

Adrian

1943Mike

Adrian,

Your bio on this site suggests that you a Renaissance man for sure. You have a background in engineering, your taste in music, your ability to see ahead (chess), your obvious eye for detail would indicate that you are a gentleman in the classic sense of the word.

Your modeling is, as others have said, just outstandingly fabulous.

Which P-38 in 1/48 scale are you working on and will we get to see a work in progress?

Here are a couple of short pieces I take with me in my tablet to the gym most days of the week to drown out the stuff they have coming out of the speakers. Maybe you'll enjoy them also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6jOUzBKYc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A

 

 

Thanks!! 1943Mike!!...Yes!! the short pieces of music are good enough to get peace and to go to another world, Thanks you for share in this forum and with me.

My F4U in 1/32 around in one month, I will post it, thanks for ask me!! and of course, my next move is to move one pieces into another room... ( Lenguaje chess's ), Thanks you for your words!!, give me a good motivation...Good

Adrian

Rigidrider

Adrian... You sir, are doing a masterful job! There is no doubt in my mind that when finished, this will be muesum quality work! Bravo!!!

Doug

 

Thank you Doug!!...I hope my next publication is in about 1 month... ( while working in a diesel machine)...Thanks!!

adrian , you are a true artist mate , I'm flat out making duck @#@$ with solder , what you are doing is incredible .

steve5

This log has so much awesomeness in it! WOW!! 

Adrian,

Your bio on this site suggests that you a Renaissance man for sure. You have a background in engineering, your taste in music, your ability to see ahead (chess), your obvious eye for detail would indicate that you are a gentleman in the classic sense of the word.

Your modeling is, as others have said, just outstandingly fabulous.

Which P-38 in 1/48 scale are you working on and will we get to see a work in progress?

Here are a couple of short pieces I take with me in my tablet to the gym most days of the week to drown out the stuff they have coming out of the speakers. Maybe you'll enjoy them also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6jOUzBKYc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEfFbuT3I6A

Adrian... You sir, are doing a masterful job! There is no doubt in my mind that when finished, this will be muesum quality work! Bravo!!!

Doug

Bil

Every post just impresses me more.. your work is stunning.  A real work of art.

 

Thank you for follow this proyect...Good!!!, Will be in touch!

Adrian

Every post just impresses me more.. your work is stunning.  A real work of art.

Section 5

Thanks

Hi Tanker builder!!

Thanks for the suggestion of the thread to cut. 

Use the cyanoacrylate glue (super bonder) to join all the components.

and thanks for giving me the idea to contact them. I've just done it now and we're going to wait.

 Thanks for sharing your wife's story ...

Thanks again!! Tanker Builder

Adrian ;

 Where is the Museum this sub is in ? Can you communicate with them ? Contact their Director of Displays and show them the photos you have shown here . I'll bet you can get your sub into the Museum in a diorama ! Tanker - Builder 

Adrian ;

 In going through here I have seen that strainer before . Same story different woman .M y landlady's kitchen ! I bought her a new one too . 

Adrian;

 I have to ask you . Did all that framing get done out of soldered brass .If so you are an artist my friend ! 

Adrian ;

 You can actually make a cable saw out of coarse fine thread or Woven Fly fishing line ( Fine ) . I tried this some years back when a friend teased me about cutting apart a ship at the engine room to show all the stuff inside !

 I tried a Hack saw on a scrap hull and was not pleased . My wife comes into the shop with a bleeding finger , She cut it on a thread .That's when the light of understanding went on .

 I acquired a ring saw that is used in the Stained Glass hobby ! problem solved . They use a diamond coated wire . I modified it to use " Spider Wire " fine fishing line .

 It cuts just like a band saw , only with a spinning wire .

Thanks

Model Monkey

Superb!

 

Thanks you  Model Monkey!!, and thanks you for the info about printer 3D- Good!

Superb!

goldhammer

This is truely an amazing museum quality project that you are creating.  I hope it will eventually find a home in one in the future.

 

Perhaps in the complex where the boat is at.

 

 

 

...I would be the happiest man of earth if have an opportunity to put it in the museum where the sub is at. Thanks you!!

This is truely an amazing museum quality project that you are creating.  I hope it will eventually find a home in one in the future.

Perhaps in the complex where the boat is at.

captfue

I'm not a boat person, this work is truly fantastic!

 

Thanks you Captfue!!..I appreciate your words, good luck with your figures!!

Bil

It really is somethng to see all three of those hull sections together.  Lovely work, and nice scavenging with your wife's plate.

 

   Yes Bil, My perception to see together is 'the sensation to something heavy", step by step my imagination begin to see some mystery all around this submarine...

   Mystery that can explain to me how was his last days in the ocean floor even when was arise and stay for a long time in the dark, solitary and cool nights...

   ...of course!!!...I meant not tried to find the true history...just to find some poetry that help me to understand the odyssey of the life on board this submarine...

Adrian

Yes Duster!!! 

You are right!!!..."we must go on..."

Thanks!!

It really is somethng to see all three of those hull sections together.  Lovely work, and nice scavenging with your wife's plate.

Adrian Urrejola

 

  

Indeed, the life of a modeler is often in peril from even his adoring family. 

Never mind we must go on, the model is all  

Seriously though, very impressive work. Many thanks for sharing your vision and talent with us.

Thank you!!

Bil

I keep saying it, but wow.  Your work is very inspirational.

Would love to see more of that build.  

 

Thanks you Bil!!!...Good!!

I keep saying it, but wow.  Your work is very inspirational.

Would love to see more of that build.  

1943Mike

This is such a unique, fascinating build! I'm bowled over by your skills as a craftsman, modeler and your ability to create, from your thoughts, the "look" you want to achieve.

This thread depicts scratch details that certainly should tickle the fancy of most modelers, myself certainly one. I only wish I had half the talent on display here.

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   I bet you have more than "...I had half the talent on display here". Do you know why??...Do you Know my history??...I tell you...First, thank you for your word became of you...I really believe that this modeler skill requery certainly ability and second I belevied that you and most of all have this ability...

 

   I began with this hobby (about 6 years ago) with an airplane AV 8 harrier ( in 1/144), tried to reproduce all the bay ( in scratch) where a motor are...day bye day, practice and practice ... finding and discovery all metals shapes possibles  and how a to work with my hands , and idea and the model… took me one and half year long to create 'nothin'...after that, I quit. Few month later I decide to build in 1/72 a Harrier Gr3, ... to my surprise, was very easier to build a pieces in 1/72...Eureka!!...took me another year to complete a model ( I need to reproduce most  of the pieces more than once…) ( see the photo below)...in a few words…took me around two and half year to make my  model…Great!! (would you spend ( in our quickly times) more than two years just to learn the ability to make something, without  a result??)

 

   I recognize that a have a ability to create a model in my imagination... and a lot of persistence...and more important, give me a pleasure...that’s all, the rest is the ability to every hobby and work needs...patience and time , dedication...and enjoy what you do ...nothing of another world...

 

   Thanks you again and I feel very happy to know you...good!!!...and very happy for all the other person that I know in this forum…thanks!!

 

 

This is such a unique, fascinating build! I'm bowled over by your skills as a craftsman, modeler and your ability to create, from your thoughts, the "look" you want to achieve.

This thread depicts scratch details that certainly should tickle the fancy of most modelers, myself certainly one. I only wish I had half the talent on display here.

Bil

I thought so, excellent work... 3D modeling, animation, and interactive training is my day job, so my respect for your abilities was just raised a few more percentage points.

 

Great!!, I always want to learn about software 3D and in this year I want to begin with Sketchup ( I already saw it and I will love it)...I think The most important thing is an imagination...because 'a thought' is a pleasure ( for me) and I can spend hours to imaginate the 'structure that I want'. The 'interactive training' will touching a point of pleasure too and streamlines the mind!!!...Thanks!!

I thought so, excellent work... 3D modeling, animation, and interactive training is my day job, so my respect for your abilities was just raised a few more percentage points.

Bil

Absolutely incredible work!

Did you build the 3D models that are highlighted in a few of your images?

 

Thank you Bil!!, yes!...I only have the images on internet and is like a challenge because, you need to pick up each part of each imagen to build a new one...would more easier if a have exacly representation of what a need to build and the first thing is to make a desing ...Thank you Bil...we are in touch!!

steve5

adrian

what you are doing is beyond my imagination , let alone ability .it is so intriguing to watch this project go together . looking forward to the next installment .

 

Thanks you Steve5!! and for looking forward...is a long proyect and we are in touch!!

Adrian

Absolutely incredible work!

Did you build the 3D models that are highlighted in a few of your images?

adrian

what you are doing is beyond my imagination , let alone ability .it is so intriguing to watch this project go together . looking forward to the next installment .

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Thanks!!

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Bil

Adrian, the work you are doing on this model is extremely impressive, I love your reference gathering capabilities.  Looking forward to watching this develop.

Did I read you correct that you use an epoxy for all that metal work, or are you soldering the parts and assemblies?

Bil

 

Thanks you Bil!!,  I don't use soldering for the parts assembblies, the only glue I use is 'super bonder' for all my works...thanks for ask me about it

Adrian, the work you are doing on this model is extremely impressive, I love your reference gathering capabilities.  Looking forward to watching this develop.

Did I read you correct that you use an epoxy for all that metal work, or are you soldering the parts and assemblies?

Bil

littletimmy

Anything Rusty and Crusty get's my attention !

Your "Corrosion" look's better than anything Mother Nature could ever make !

 Anxiously awaiting your next up-date !

 

Good!!...I'm still working and in a few days I will published the plan of my next step and I calculate to finish of february I will post it.

Thanks again!! 

littletimmy

Johnny Reb

I didnt want to Hi-Jack Adrian's thread, so I sent you a Private Message ( PM )

 

Bakster

Impressive work. Enjoying this.

 

Thanks you!!!... is good to take you in touch!

Johnny Reb

I didnt want to Hi-Jack Adrian's thread, so I sent you a Private Message ( PM )

Hi Littletimmy.

I am pretty new to modeling in general and I am working on my first sub.

I noticed the beautiful job that you did on your pictured sub. If you don't mind, can you tell me the colors that you used on the hull? I have painted mine straight, flat black but to me, it looks too solid black. I do plan on weathering to help correct this but your model looks "dead on" and very realistic! 

Thank you!

Anything Rusty and Crusty get's my attention !

Your "Corrosion" look's better than anything Mother Nature could ever make !

 Anxiously awaiting your next up-date !

Impressive work. Enjoying this.

loving this adrian , your a clever man .

Really enjoying your build.  Very creative 

Thanks.

The part of the main structure

Thanks.

Here is part of the main structure of section 2 (includes section 1)

I hope about a 15 days to have a result.  Thanks.

The exterior structure will be covered and only the interior structure can be seen a little, when all the work is done.

...as you can see here

goldhammer

Fantastic ability and vision.  You put a lot of us to shame with your work, and I'm at the head of the line.

 

Thanks for your words and I am here also to learn and know them too!!

Adrian

Fantastic ability and vision.  You put a lot of us to shame with your work, and I'm at the head of the line.

My desire is to be able to create an ‘experience’ with the viewer in the observation process.

My goal in creating this ‘experience’ is that the observer can imagine the U-534 as real at the moment it is.

This 'appearance of reality' can go as far as the capabilities of the observer himself.

                                                                                                   Adrian

Here we have only finished the main structure (stage of this structure 1 of 3)

(The main structure is still not attached to the submarine (it is only placed on top))

Here you can see other pieces of the structure

Rigidrider

Adrian... This build is really something,  Watching this with great interest!

 

 

Thanks you Rigidrider!!...in a few day I will upload, my new plan about forward torpedo section. I'm very excited, and in a couple of weeks  I will upload my first work done about all these forward part of U-534. Please, keep attention and thanks you again for watching...Good

Adrian... This build is really something,  Watching this with great interest!

Thanks!!

from the 'wood filler' , I cut it and got the cylinder

steve5

adrian

those planes are just incredible , truly beautiful work , and your daughter is beautiful too .

 

Thanks you very much Steve5,  We'll be in touch...

adrian

those planes are just incredible , truly beautiful work , and your daughter is beautiful too .

In the middle of another publication...

I allow myself to show you two of my airplane works.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/176981.aspx?page=1

Thanks!!

steve5

adrian 

 this is such an intriguing build , really interested in what and how you do it .

 

Thanks Steve5, I am very excited in this project

I am satisfied with the work and for the moment you see a rough work but you have to be patient and we will follow what was planned.

I will try to work this time to give another publication at the end of the year or beginning of 2018. Thanks, and any question I am at your order

Thanks!!

adrian 

 this is such an intriguing build , really interested in what and how you do it .

The detail of some of the sections

Here the detail of the second section

How the 5 sessions looks like:

One of the challenges is the challenge of how I will represent all the skin of the submarine (which has many holes and prominences) to make it look real (as real as possible) it is very interesting

The general idea is that the cut of 5 parts, need to be fine and delicate as posible but, in this case, the cut does not need to be in these way.

The challenge and the risk to be able to make the skin, is to use a printing sheet that will cover the plastic.

In the printing sheet it is more easy to imitate the alterations of the submarine.

It will be done in the final stage of the whole project and it will be another great challenge because it must remain as real as possible.

It is related to the cut because the plastic will be covered with the printing sheet. obviously the surface has many peculiarities to take care.

let's see how it Works:

Any question I am at your orders…good!!

In these following days I will give you 'how and what will I use to cut the model' ...

Here are the steps to be able to cut the model

Here is the general plan of the modifications that must be done

RichfromSask

Very ambitious and unique project Adrian! I’m curious,  do you intend to do a cutaway on any of the sections to show some of the interior?  I have the type IXC Revell kit with a full interior (resin and pe kits).  I’m sure I can learn some tips and techniques watching your wip. Looking forward to it.

 

Very ambitious and unique project Adrian! I’m curious,  do you intend to do a cutaway on any of the sections to show some of the interior?  I have the type IXC Revell kit with a full interior (resin and pe kits).  I’m sure I can learn some tips and techniques watching your wip. Looking forward to it.

keavdog

Very cool subject - I will be follwing.

 

Thanks!!

Very cool subject - I will be follwing.

Rigidrider

Thats a great piece of info Adrian. That will be an immence help when making cuts! If you should choose to thread cut, just take a length of thread, wrap around a piece of stick or something similar, do the same to the other end, then just start pulling back and forth, allowing the friction to cut through the plastic. You'll fast learn how fast and how much pull preasure to put on it to keep cutting smoothly. As I said befor, it will likely break a number of times, (always does) but it should give you a good clean cut in the end. Good Luck! Can't wait to see the end results. I'll be starting mine soon... I hope. Take care!

Doug

 

 

Hi Rigidrider!!

Thanks for your words add emotion to the project !! And I like your words very much!!

I will prepare the documentation to show the tool that I will use to cut the submarine-model.

In a few days I will upload the plan or stages that I will follow to cut, and a few days later (I just prepare the documentation) I will show the mechanism that I will use to cut it.

The mechanism is very simple and easy to use but I need to explain it because it has its foundation.

Thanks you very much!!

Adrian

Thats a great piece of info Adrian. That will be an immence help when making cuts! If you should choose to thread cut, just take a length of thread, wrap around a piece of stick or something similar, do the same to the other end, then just start pulling back and forth, allowing the friction to cut through the plastic. You'll fast learn how fast and how much pull preasure to put on it to keep cutting smoothly. As I said befor, it will likely break a number of times, (always does) but it should give you a good clean cut in the end. Good Luck! Can't wait to see the end results. I'll be starting mine soon... I hope. Take care!

Doug

Here is the true diagram (found in the U-534 museum) that will help me to cut the model.

The next step is very important.

The next step is to cut the model and it will be necessary to study it in detail because after cutting, there is no turning back.

I'm going to study what the cut will do, and I'll make some diagrams.

At the end of this week I will show you.

Thank you very much!!

Good night!!

Here are the 10 pieces for the 5 parts.

Still missing parts but they serve to support the model.

The color rust of some, it is only proof (it is not definitive) and it can be removed at anytime.

 All have the corresponding measure for each part and not all are equal.

Rigidrider

You can use cotton thread and it will do a cut just like a cable saw, it will break periodicly, but no big deal, its cheap.

 

You can use cotton thread and it will do a cut just like a cable saw, it will break periodicly, but no big deal, its cheap.

Tanker - Builder

Adrian ;

 I saw this cable saw work on an underwater wreck ! It was amazing what I was seeing . The cuts were as clean as an X-Acto in full size . I never got big enough in salvage to do that but I hired on as a relief diver . What you have will work and I have found some larger discs that will work too .Do you have a version of Harbor Freight stores  there in Guatamala ?

 

Thank you for telling me part of your story and very interesting and personally I really admire the frogmen (dive man). I'm glad you've done well in your visit here. No, here in Guatemala we do not have the Harbor Freight stores.

here, some picture of saw cable with U-534. Thanks!!

Adrian ;

 I saw this cable saw work on an underwater wreck ! It was amazing what I was seeing . The cuts were as clean as an X-Acto in full size . I never got big enough in salvage to do that but I hired on as a relief diver . What you have will work and I have found some larger discs that will work too .Do you have a version of Harbor Freight stores  there in Guatamala ?

Hi;

 Hello and welcome Adrian . I have been to your country and had an exceptionally great visit with frineds as we traveled around .My friend Phillipe' was a naval engineer I met while on T.D.Y to the embassy there . He invited me into his home and all was well .

 I look forward to seeing your work . T.B.

To be honest I am also very excited to know how the final result will about these proyect..., thank you very much and I am also interested in knowing (U505) Type IXc diorama, ( also need to plan very meticulously), please let me know about your proyect too...see you!!

Adrian, Greetings! I will watch this one with great interest sir. I have only dabbled in subs but have recently bought the 72nd scale ROG kit # 05114 (U505) Type IXc late version, and am in the planning stages of the build. I want to leave it intact and do a battle scene in a water diorama. You sir have an ambitious project ahead and I can't wait to see it coming together! Take care and looking forward to your WIP! 

Doug

Here the first, is not yet complete but works to hold the hull of the U-534. In total there are 10 and I estimate that in about two - three weeks I will finish them

Look Tanger Builder , I habe my own clable saw...good!

For this project we will need all possible metal and we use windscreens, hair clips, all kinds of steel, pins, railroad rails ... etc

Ok, let's do the first thing.

When the model kit is cut into the 5 parts, each part has a circular base, we need to make a base (structure) for them to be able to hold and work.

And the best is to make the same real structures that support the U-534.

I will be working on it and when I have a result I upload it. Thanks.

This is a good example of how powerful the saw cable is

Hi Tanker - Builder!!, nice to meet you.

   Really, before knowing that they cut the U-534, I did not know anything about the saw cable, and it is very interesting. Now I know that they have used it to cut several boats.

I attached a video that I got that explains a bit when they cut the U-534.

What I know is that they did not want to cut the Costa Concordia, they wanted to put it afloat because it was on its side. But the structure of the Costa Concordia was not weak and could be cut with a cable saw.

I am very happy that you are in this forum and we will be in contact.

Regards.

Adrian ;

   Are you aware of the cable saw that was developed for salvage work ? It looks like they used one of those to do the cuts .They are too straight and even for anything else . They could've use it on the Costa Concordia , but the structure was to weak .

 They did use it on a ship that sank at a oil terminal . T.B.  P.S. It was on " Mighty Ships " on the Learning channel .

"This is going to be impresive to watch..."...thanks you for your good feelings, yea!!!...I bet it  is right. 

Please keep me notify about your trip to Liverpool or manchester city .I wiil lookin for you too,  thanks again!!. Best wishes !!

This is going to be impresive to watch. I have not had a chance to get up to Liverpool yet and see her for real, maybe i need to talk the Mrs in to going to see her family in manchester and i can pop over.

Looking forward to seeing this build come together.

(You can click over the image for better view. Thanks.)

First the U-534 was divided in 5 parts in the Nautilus Museum, Birkenhead,Merseyside for to move to visitor centre at Woodside where join together part 5 and part 4.

that's right will be in 5 parts (thanks)

The model that I chose for this proyect is this:

There are 2 main difference in the visual for the sub I want 1) The upper part of the hull is different and need to change 2) All the equipment of the snorkel tube

Here is the only model kit that I know of U-534 with the snorkel system. The model was in the new museum.

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Thanks and please any question or suggestion, just ask me...good

goldhammer

Curious if your build is planned as she was raised, or as sectioned.  Lot of scratching either way.  Will be following in any case.

 

I believe the plan is to build as seen ,in 5 sections. This will be a very interesting project, I too look foward to progress.

Curious if your build is planned as she was raised, or as sectioned.  Lot of scratching either way.  Will be following in any case.

Untill this thread started I had no idea that U-534 was raised.

I guess you really do learn something new each day.

I love this forum !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/content/articles/2009/02/06/history_places_last_uboat_feature.shtml

Would be interesting to know which boat that is, and history behind her.

U-505 was just me taking a guess. I knew she had been moved many year's ago and I had no idea if she was moved intact or in pieces. In the pictures there are many "newer" cars so it couldnt be U-505. (I should have investigated a bit further before guessing . )

In his original post Adrian said he was going to build U-534.

U-534 was sunk May 5th 1945 by British bomb's. she sank in the Kattegat North-west of Helsingor in position 56 Deg. 39'N , 11 Deg 48' E. There were 3 fatality's.

I havent heard anything about U-534 being raised but it could have been. If the picture's are U-534, she looks pretty good for a sub that's been underwater for the past 72 year's

Went through her in around '68 when she was still outside.  As a 15 year old kid,she was cramped for me.  Remember the photos of her being rolled across the highway, that were part of the exhibit.

Doubt the sectioned boat is 505, never heard of her being cut apart. She was pulled from the lake and pulled across the highway intact.   As well as all the debris in the bottom of the hull, and rust on the interior,  looks to be one that was sunk and later raised.

Looking forward to what you do with your build.

Howdy !

I'm not sure but your'e picture's seem to be of U-505 ?

A good reference book would be : Anatomy of the ship The typeVII U - boat byDavid westwood.

It's full of diagram's and a "Treasure trove" of other information. While your'e pictures are of a Type IX -C  the book has a lot of information that crosses over to many type's of U - boat's.

Another book with a few diagrams in it : Type VII U-Boat's by Roger Chesneau. There are a few pictures in it as well.

And if you can find one I "Highly reccommend" this book :German Warships 1815-1945 Volume II U-Boat's and Mine Warfare Vessels  by Erich Groner. I have used this book in my own research so much that it's now "dog eared" and full of note's in the side  bar's.

Like I said before, much of this information is about the Type VII but many of the fitting's and part's crossed over to the other types of sub's.

Hope this help's and I will be following along as you progress.

[quote user="Adrian Urrejola"]

I am a man of 57 years old. I started with the hobbie about 6 years ago and I have 3 models. My next project is a challenge and it will take me a long time. I do not have diagrams and I'm just going to base myself on the few photos I've found on the internet.

I like scratch a lot and I like to work in metal and bronze. I would love to receive comments and suggestions a First I will upload the main photos that give idea of the project. Thanks.