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U-Boat 534 (1/72 ) divided in 5 parts

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  • From: Guatemala
Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:39 PM

Here is the general plan of the modifications that must be done

 

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Thursday, November 23, 2017 12:08 AM

RichfromSask

Very ambitious and unique project Adrian! I’m curious,  do you intend to do a cutaway on any of the sections to show some of the interior?  I have the type IXC Revell kit with a full interior (resin and pe kits).  I’m sure I can learn some tips and techniques watching your wip. Looking forward to it.

 

 

Thank you for your words!
 
Exactly to cutaway some seccion , no, but some seccion show his interior like the part where the machine is (seccion number 3). Oher parts like the  front seccion shows us about 25% of his interior.
 
All the sections show us something of their interior transversally. And it's going to be another challenge to do.
 
if you do some of the  type IXC Revell kit with a full interior, I wonder to see your work because I will like to study each part.
 
Here I show you the inside of the front and the machines section to give you an idea.
 
 
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Posted by RichfromSask on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:22 AM

Very ambitious and unique project Adrian! I’m curious,  do you intend to do a cutaway on any of the sections to show some of the interior?  I have the type IXC Revell kit with a full interior (resin and pe kits).  I’m sure I can learn some tips and techniques watching your wip. Looking forward to it.

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:07 AM

keavdog

Very cool subject - I will be follwing.

 

 

Thanks!!

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:44 PM

Very cool subject - I will be follwing.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:17 PM

Rigidrider

Thats a great piece of info Adrian. That will be an immence help when making cuts! If you should choose to thread cut, just take a length of thread, wrap around a piece of stick or something similar, do the same to the other end, then just start pulling back and forth, allowing the friction to cut through the plastic. You'll fast learn how fast and how much pull preasure to put on it to keep cutting smoothly. As I said befor, it will likely break a number of times, (always does) but it should give you a good clean cut in the end. Good Luck! Can't wait to see the end results. I'll be starting mine soon... I hope. Take care!

Doug

 

 

Hi Rigidrider!!

Thanks for your words add emotion to the project !! And I like your words very much!!

I will prepare the documentation to show the tool that I will use to cut the submarine-model.

 

In a few days I will upload the plan or stages that I will follow to cut, and a few days later (I just prepare the documentation) I will show the mechanism that I will use to cut it.

The mechanism is very simple and easy to use but I need to explain it because it has its foundation.

 

 

Thanks you very much!!

Adrian

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Rigidrider on Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:33 PM

Thats a great piece of info Adrian. That will be an immence help when making cuts! If you should choose to thread cut, just take a length of thread, wrap around a piece of stick or something similar, do the same to the other end, then just start pulling back and forth, allowing the friction to cut through the plastic. You'll fast learn how fast and how much pull preasure to put on it to keep cutting smoothly. As I said befor, it will likely break a number of times, (always does) but it should give you a good clean cut in the end. Good Luck! Can't wait to see the end results. I'll be starting mine soon... I hope. Take care!

Doug

 

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:42 PM

Here is the true diagram (found in the U-534 museum) that will help me to cut the model.

 

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:25 PM

The next step is very important.

The next step is to cut the model and it will be necessary to study it in detail because after cutting, there is no turning back.

I'm going to study what the cut will do, and I'll make some diagrams.

At the end of this week I will show you.

 

Thank you very much!!

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:17 PM

Good night!!

Here are the 10 pieces for the 5 parts.

Still missing parts but they serve to support the model.

The color rust of some, it is only proof (it is not definitive) and it can be removed at anytime.

 All have the corresponding measure for each part and not all are equal.

 

Tags: Submarine , WWII , U-534 , U-Boat , U-Boot
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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:55 AM

Rigidrider

You can use cotton thread and it will do a cut just like a cable saw, it will break periodicly, but no big deal, its cheap.

 

 

Thank you!!. You just mentioned something very important.
 
In the art of scale models it is important to work as if the model is real  and in all work completed the process is very important.
 
and above all, all the quality of the process turns our hobby into a weapon of motivation
 
The importance of the idea of working with cotton thhread is not its effectiveness but it makes us believe that our model is real.
 
good deal!!
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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:47 PM

You can use cotton thread and it will do a cut just like a cable saw, it will break periodicly, but no big deal, its cheap.

When Life Hands You A Bucket Of Lemons...

Make Lemonade!

Then Sell It Back At $2 Bucks A Glass...

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Wednesday, November 8, 2017 9:53 PM

Tanker - Builder

Adrian ;

 I saw this cable saw work on an underwater wreck ! It was amazing what I was seeing . The cuts were as clean as an X-Acto in full size . I never got big enough in salvage to do that but I hired on as a relief diver . What you have will work and I have found some larger discs that will work too .Do you have a version of Harbor Freight stores  there in Guatamala ?

 

 

Thank you for telling me part of your story and very interesting and personally I really admire the frogmen (dive man). I'm glad you've done well in your visit here. No, here in Guatemala we do not have the Harbor Freight stores.

 

here, some picture of saw cable with U-534. Thanks!!

 

 

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:48 PM

Adrian ;

 I saw this cable saw work on an underwater wreck ! It was amazing what I was seeing . The cuts were as clean as an X-Acto in full size . I never got big enough in salvage to do that but I hired on as a relief diver . What you have will work and I have found some larger discs that will work too .Do you have a version of Harbor Freight stores  there in Guatamala ?

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:44 PM

Hi;

 Hello and welcome Adrian . I have been to your country and had an exceptionally great visit with frineds as we traveled around .My friend Phillipe' was a naval engineer I met while on T.D.Y to the embassy there . He invited me into his home and all was well .

 I look forward to seeing your work . T.B.

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:34 PM

To be honest I am also very excited to know how the final result will about these proyect..., thank you very much and I am also interested in knowing (U505) Type IXc diorama, ( also need to plan very meticulously), please let me know about your proyect too...see you!!

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Posted by Rigidrider on Saturday, November 4, 2017 7:46 PM

Adrian, Greetings! I will watch this one with great interest sir. I have only dabbled in subs but have recently bought the 72nd scale ROG kit # 05114 (U505) Type IXc late version, and am in the planning stages of the build. I want to leave it intact and do a battle scene in a water diorama. You sir have an ambitious project ahead and I can't wait to see it coming together! Take care and looking forward to your WIP! 

Doug

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Saturday, November 4, 2017 1:34 AM

Here the first, is not yet complete but works to hold the hull of the U-534. In total there are 10 and I estimate that in about two - three weeks I will finish them

 

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Saturday, November 4, 2017 1:30 AM
Here a sketch of the structure of the base
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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Saturday, November 4, 2017 1:26 AM

Look Tanger Builder , I habe my own clable saw...good!

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Saturday, November 4, 2017 1:23 AM

For this project we will need all possible metal and we use windscreens, hair clips, all kinds of steel, pins, railroad rails ... etc

 

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Wednesday, November 1, 2017 11:39 PM

Ok, let's do the first thing.

When the model kit is cut into the 5 parts, each part has a circular base, we need to make a base (structure) for them to be able to hold and work.

And the best is to make the same real structures that support the U-534.

I will be working on it and when I have a result I upload it. Thanks.

 

 

Tags: sub , Ship , Submarine , WWII , U-534
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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:25 PM

This is a good example of how powerful the saw cable is

 

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Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:09 PM

Hi Tanker - Builder!!, nice to meet you.

   Really, before knowing that they cut the U-534, I did not know anything about the saw cable, and it is very interesting. Now I know that they have used it to cut several boats.

I attached a video that I got that explains a bit when they cut the U-534.

What I know is that they did not want to cut the Costa Concordia, they wanted to put it afloat because it was on its side. But the structure of the Costa Concordia was not weak and could be cut with a cable saw.

I am very happy that you are in this forum and we will be in contact.

Regards.

 

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:14 PM

Adrian ;

   Are you aware of the cable saw that was developed for salvage work ? It looks like they used one of those to do the cuts .They are too straight and even for anything else . They could've use it on the Costa Concordia , but the structure was to weak .

 They did use it on a ship that sank at a oil terminal . T.B.  P.S. It was on " Mighty Ships " on the Learning channel .

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  • From: Guatemala
Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:02 AM

"This is going to be impresive to watch..."...thanks you for your good feelings, yea!!!...I bet it  is right. 

Please keep me notify about your trip to Liverpool or manchester city .I wiil lookin for you too,  thanks again!!. Best wishes !!

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:55 AM

This is going to be impresive to watch. I have not had a chance to get up to Liverpool yet and see her for real, maybe i need to talk the Mrs in to going to see her family in manchester and i can pop over.

Looking forward to seeing this build come together.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Guatemala
Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Monday, October 30, 2017 9:26 PM

(You can click over the image for better view. Thanks.)

First the U-534 was divided in 5 parts in the Nautilus Museum, Birkenhead,Merseyside for to move to visitor centre at Woodside where join together part 5 and part 4.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Guatemala
Posted by Adrian Urrejola on Monday, October 30, 2017 9:23 PM

that's right will be in 5 parts (thanks)

 

 

 

The model that I chose for this proyect is this:

 

 

 

 

There are 2 main difference in the visual for the sub I want 1) The upper part of the hull is different and need to change 2) All the equipment of the snorkel tube

 

Here is the only model kit that I know of U-534 with the snorkel system. The model was in the new museum.

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Thanks and please any question or suggestion, just ask me...good

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Posted by templar1099 on Monday, October 30, 2017 6:19 PM

goldhammer

Curious if your build is planned as she was raised, or as sectioned.  Lot of scratching either way.  Will be following in any case.

 


I believe the plan is to build as seen ,in 5 sections. This will be a very interesting project, I too look foward to progress.

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