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USS Constitution build II - 35 years later

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:10 PM

Jose,

Glad I could help out.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Jose Gonzales on Wednesday, November 11, 2020 3:53 PM

Clever solution, Bob! I wish I had done this on my second build, but will certainly use it on my current one!

Jose

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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, November 10, 2020 9:11 PM

Working on finishing the yards for the fore mast.  All yards have been turned and wooden parts added (cleats, battens, etc.) and then painted black.

Working on the studding sail booms for the lower 3 yards.  Turning the booms is as easy as it gets - cut to the right length and then sand to the correct taper.  I found a tutorial online that showed how to create the boom irons.  They said to drill a small hole in a brass tubing of the correct diameter for the boom.  Easy enough. 

Then it said to place a wire in the hole and solder, then bend as needed.  Not so easy.  Difficult to keep the wire perpendicular to the tubing AND not have it stick too far into the tubing so you can't file it down.  So I modified the procedure a bit, using some jewelry pins.  These are fine wires with a flat head about 1/16" diameter.  Quite small.  So I filed opposite sides down to the wire to make it a "T".  I passed the wire through the inside of the tubing and secured it with a small dab of CA, making sure it was perpendicular to the tubing.  THEN I soldered it to the brass tubing.

Hope that tip is useful to others down the road.

boom irons

Bob

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 1, 2020 12:48 AM

Nino
My excuse for missing your recent updates was an Ian Toll book, Six Frigates.  Wow, what a great book on the early history of our Country.  The Constitution figured prominently in it so, I'm back!

That is a good book. It will make you dislike Thomas Jefferson and appreciate John Adams: if you believe that a navy is necessary.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Saturday, October 31, 2020 9:05 PM

Thanks, TB.  I was a little leery, but they turned out OK.  Most people might not even notice them, but I know they are there.

Bob

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, October 30, 2020 3:32 PM

Geez!

 This is turning into a work of ART !  Awesome my Friend!

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, October 30, 2020 3:23 PM

I haven't read that.  Now I will have to.  I wonder if they have it in a "books on tape" or whatever they call it now so I can listen to it while I build?  Podcasts are fine, but there aren't any dedicated to shipbuilding.  I would be all over that!

GM are you listening?  You could do this and become REALLY famous!

Bob

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Posted by Nino on Friday, October 30, 2020 3:17 PM

Nice Lions head!.

  I have been absent from your Constitution Thread for a bit.  My expectation is to re-read it all and copy those great tips that have worked so well for you.

 My excuse for missing your recent updates was an Ian Toll book, Six Frigates.  Wow, what a great book on the early history of our Country.  The Constitution figured prominently in it so, I'm back!

  Great work Bob.

       Jim.

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, October 30, 2020 12:13 AM

I decided to try a little carving for the catheads.

cathead1

cathead 2

Now to recreate it for the other side.  Luckily, it's darn near impossible to see them both at the same time, so I only have to get it close!  Also  dumped the cheap plastic (bendy) boomkins and scratch built new ones out of wood.  Much sturdier.

Bob

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Posted by Luvspinball on Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:03 PM

Spent most of the summer creating websites for work, recording lectures, etc.  Finally have some free time and able to get back into the shop.  

THE HULL IS COMPLETE !

Only things left are the crew and hammock rails, which will be added AFTER the rigging is mostly complete (otherwise I will keep busting things up/off).

lateral

fore

aft

stern

ON TO THE MASTS and FIXED RIGGING

Bob

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Posted by Nino on Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:45 PM

Yes,  more info good.   Always keep searching. 

    If I had not continued research on the USS Monitor I would never have known that the top deck had multiple perforations overtop of 40 railroad type rails or had any idea where the 3 small viewing ports in the turret were located, or that there were holes in the gun port armored covers ("Stoppers") so that the long handle of the rammer and sponges could be used.

Yes.  Keep the info coming.  Someday some AMERICAN manufacturer might take all these accumulated facts and make a kit that Is A Replica.

 

   Love what you are doing.   You should make this a traveling display.  Lend it to local Libraries, Lions clubs, VFW's, etc.  It would certianly help to get the interest going to build model ships.

 

 

The Constitution...(Paper and Plastic.)

That may be the most important phrase on the planet.

 

     Jim.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:34 AM
Do not worry Bob, you cannot provide too much information. Keep posting, please!!

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:44 PM

Thanks, Steve.

I can't really tell if I am giving too much info or not.  Or taking too many pictures.  But I will keep posting as long as I am still building.  I will try not to bore anyone by reposting similar builds, such as the masts and yards.  Not a whole lot of differences there in terms of useful build info.  But I will definitely get back into posting once the rigging starts.  And I am sure I will have plenty of questions once it does!  Nice to know that folks are still watching, as this is going on two years now.

Bob

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:49 PM

Nino

Geez Bob, where's the inkwell on the Commadores desk?

 

  Holy Smokes that is some detail.

Can you make the deck over the cabin removable? That is too good to hide

I love it. I could never do it, but I love this model ship. 

  THANKS BOB!

          Jim

 

I absolutely agree with Jim, this is one heck of a build Bob! 

I’ve added this thread to my favorites so that I can refer to it when I build the 1/96 United States that was given to me for free. Please the pictures and dialogue coming.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Rick Sr on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:49 PM

You did an awesome job. That build is a classic!!!

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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:27 PM

Rick,

Yes, I wanted to be able to see my work on the gun deck, so I cut three large "holes" in the spar deck that can be removed to show the workings below.  Plus I lit it all up with LEDs.

Bob

 

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Posted by Rick Sr on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 7:10 AM

I've been looking at pictures of sailing ships in combat, and noticed that they all showed reduced sails, as I understand it to help prevent damage to the rest of their sails.

Try as I could, I could not tell if the rest of the sails were furled or put below from those paintings.

I was going to model my Constitution with furled sails, but since the kit came with open gunports, usually, as far as I can tell, mostly when prepped for battle, I decided to model her ready for battle with guns run out, ports open, and reduced sails.

I have some silk span on order for sail making, and HiS carriages for the spar deck.

I scratch built a Brodie stove, galley and water barrels for the gun deck, then covered them up when the spar deck went on. That's when I went back to your build and saw the open decks.

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, June 19, 2020 8:18 PM

Thanks, Shipwreck.

I already did this ship once in my early 20s, strictly OOB.  This time I wanted it to be special.  That, and I wanted my wife to let me display it without any sad comments this time (I still think secretly smiled when I had to scuttle the original).  She is overly supportive this time because she sees the amount of work I am putting into it, and is actually impressed by my workmanship.  Not in any hurry to get it done.  Do it right the first time - er, second time - and you won't have to do it again.  Although I don't show her all the stuff that hits the bin because I screwed something up.  She only gets to see the good stuff!

Bob

 

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Posted by Shipwreck on Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:11 AM

Bob, you have certainly taken the Revell USS Constitution to a new level. By the time you are done you will be justified in dropping the name Revell from our build! Thanks for sharing your journey; it is a WOW! BTW, I am still plodding along with my OOB build.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, June 17, 2020 11:39 PM

Been working on the masts and yards. Since I have switched to wood, the plastic fighting top looked odd.  So I built a wooden one. I have a tutorial which I did at my shipbuilding club tonight, but I will spare you the details and just show the finished product.

top

top02

I have a few of the yards as well.

yards01

yards02

yards03

That's all for now.  2 more masts and a bunch of yards to go.

Bob

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:49 PM

Thanks, Jose.  Using a neutral white, which has a warm quality to it instead of a bright white.

Finished the Foremast.  Bit of a pain getting the skysail pole made; kept breaking when I got close to 1/16".  Ended up making individual pieces and just sanding down in the lathe when I got close to that.

foremast2

Bob

 

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Posted by Jose Gonzales on Monday, May 11, 2020 11:55 AM

Bob, 

Spectacular scratch build work on the bowsprit and foremast! I love your attention to detail. Curious, what shade of white are you painting your masts? And what type of wood are you using?

Jose

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Posted by Luvspinball on Sunday, May 10, 2020 11:57 PM

Finished turning the spritsail yard and moved on to lower foremast.

foremast1

foremast2

foremast3

foremast4

foremast5

foremast6

On to the lowere mainmast.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:35 PM

Here is how the new bowsprit and jibs look painted up and fitted to the bow.

bowsprit

Working on the foremast next.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:52 PM

Been awhile.  The Covid19 thing is really messing with my ***.  Quite busy doing online lectures and meetings.  But I digress.  On to the cool stuff.

I was very unhappy with the look of the bowsprit.  Just didn't look right when comparing to the real ship.  I had to make new booms since the old ones were warped, but even that didn't help.  So I went to the museum plans and printed out the bowsprit and jibbooms to scale.  Sure enough, the bowsprit is over an inch too short.  Jibboom was correct, but flying jibboom was also short by 1/2".  So I went to my stash of dowels and pulled out the lathe.  I was going to need to start turning upper masts and spars anyway, so I thought I would "practice" with the bowsprit (since I did have a nice hybrid one already made; you can see it in the background of image 4).  Below are the pics of how it turned out.

bowsprit 1

bowsprit 2

bowsprit 3

bowsprit 4

bowsprit 5

Cheers,

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by docidle on Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:01 PM

Bob,

I just had time to go through this most excellent WIP. You are doing a great job on this venerable old kit. I’ll be following along now and can’t wait to see what’s next.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Thursday, February 20, 2020 9:45 AM

Rob,

Yes, I did the string thing with the lower masts in; thought I mentioned it in a previous post.  With the proper sized deadeyes, it is really not an issue though, except for the mizzen mast.  But thanks for the heads up; and the compliments.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, February 20, 2020 8:14 AM

Looks fantastic.  In all of your modifications did you account for the accurate angulation and rake of the shrouds from the new location of the adjusted deadeyes?  A quick test with the lower mast in place and piece of black thread held along the shroud path from top to deadeye...will give you a good clue as to weather the chain plates align with the shrouds.

Other then that possible issue...the mod and scratch work look good....you're moving along nicely and soon you will be setting masts and rigging shrouds.

 

Rob

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, February 19, 2020 10:54 PM

Been busy with the starboard channels, links and chainplates. First, Revell did NOT do a good job placing cannons, since there is virtually no room to put deadeyes and links that don't interfere with either the spar or gun deck cannons. The worst offender is the foremast, where the cannons form a zig-zag pattern. Main mast was pretty good, then back to a big offset for the mizzen channel.  I started with the main mast to get my techniques for making the deadeye strops and links.  I used copper wire so I could solder them together (for strength).  I used the proper size 5mm deadeyes (Revell's are woefully undersized) and marked the channels.  Since the channels were fitted with pins, I could test fit as often as I wanted to insure proper placement and alignment.  Mizzen channel was next (not too bad), and finally the biggest challenge - the foremast.  The foremast channel took me 3 builds to get it looking proper, with decent spacing of the deadeyes and room for the carronades to shoot.  All were finally painted black after mounting.  On to the port side.

021920a

021920b

021920c

021920d

Bob

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, February 7, 2020 1:37 PM

Rob,

Thanks again for the complement.  Means a lot to me.  Smile  Back to the bench!

Bob

 

Bob Frysztak

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Current builds:  Revell 1/96 USS Constitution with extensive scratch building

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