USS Constitution build II - 35 years later

AOS and LIVIT,

Thanks a lot for the compliments - means a lot.  I plan on ordering a set of BJ plans ASAP after both your comments.  Pretty much just working from the museum plans I got on CD and the AOTS book. I also have a lot of Syren rope - awesome looking stuff.  Their blocks are also the best I have found, bar none.  I acutally have the log book summary of every block used on the ship, and was planning to use that to start ordering blocks.  I may wait until I get the BJ plans now.

Started on the spar deck last night by getting the boards all glued up and the curve to the "underlayment" for the deck.  Using two sheets of .030 glued together with a 1/8" dowel under the bottom to get the curvature.  This way I can sand the deck boards flat, stain and varnish, then glue it to the already curved styrene underlayment.  Using the crappy plastic one supplied as a template for the cut-outs - with modifications of course.  Also using it to gauge where adjustments need to be made so that the spar deck fits correctly.  About 5/32" too short, and about 1/8" not wide enough.  Since everyone wants me to leave some way to see the gun deck, I am going to go with Force9's idea of making some cutouts in the spar deck that can be removed (stick an eyebolt in there so I can grab it).  One fore around the camboose, one just behind the main mast, and one aft by the captain's cabin & lounge.  Force's are permanent openings with the beams and knees, but mine will probably only have the main beams.

Bob

Absolutely stunning Bob. I had played around with the idea of using fiber optics in the cannon barrels to make them appear to be firing using a sequencer like I have done on my RC planes guns. Was going to use a smoke generator from an electric train to make smoke flow out of gundeck. Found the cannon barrels were just too fragile and rather small to drill out for fiber installation. I am planning on doing this on a future larger wood ship. Your detail work is museum quality. I am jealous :) 

I believe it was Age of Sail who turned me onto the BJ manual and parts list. Not only do you get the manual, but you get the full size plans, rigging plans, parts list and a discount coupon to apply too the purchase of a wood kit. I personally think its a must have and has been a big help on my build. I am going to put metal rod in lower portion of masts, then I am ordering the upper mast bits, spars, booms etc. I really like the syrene rigging line, they have more colors and sizes than kit provides and the look/quality is impressive and its not expensive.

Hi Bob!

Finally got a chance to peruse your build, one word, WOW! I am super impressed with the work you have done on the gun deck, it is amazing, especially the lighting plan at this scale. 'Tis a pity you cannot display such fine work without the spar deck in place, it is truly good work! Your deck work really appeals to a woodworker like myself, especially as I did not use my wood working skills to scratch build my own decks, primarily due to a serious lack of time. I had to settle for finding the time to repair my badly warped decks and hand scribe the deck planking using Evan's method. My build is here:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/164251.aspx

I am particularly impressed with the staining applied to the deck for a couple of reasons. 1, it seems to have a nicely weathered patina, and 2, it is not the traditional coloring that heart of yellow pine, the original decking of Constitution, would weather to, which to my mind adds an individuality that I like to add to my own builds. Your attention to detail however, is way out of my league!

I have a question for you, have you purchased Blue Jacket's build plans? Included in the plans are a full scale template for all of the masts, yards, spars and and studding sail booms for the ship as well as a more correct rigging plan. As you stated on my build log, you are a little further behind my build as well as Evans, the BJ plans may be a big help with regard to how to set up the channels, pin rails (Revell's kit has far fewer than required) and a more complete set of instructions for the rigging itself. I personally think they are the most valuable purchase I have made besides the kit itself. Plus if you go to the kit link on their website it has a full breakdown of all blocks, cleats, cordage, and so on needed to rig her according to their very accurate plans. Plus, there brass belaying pins are first rate, I scratch built all of my pin rails and used their pins, I love the way they came out.

I really like the templates, I am just starting to turn my jibs, spars, yards, studding booms, etc. I have re-enforced the lower and upper masts in addition to the lower yards so I will be using the kit pieces there but the top gallant pieces and and studding sail booms are a joke and so I will turn cherry wood to replace them, including the spanker and gaff, plus the skys'l yard is not even included in the Revell kit.

My resource for blocks and cordage is hands down Syren https://www.syrenshipmodelcompany.com/miniature-rope.php

I have never seen quality blocks quite like this, plus the cordage is first rate as well, Cottage Industries http://cottageindustrymodels.com/?page_id=153 also makes some pretty first rate cordage.

I wish I had used the 0.6 mm copper eyelets from Jotika instead of there 0.9 bass ones, cheaper and far closer to scale, but alas! The deed is done.

Again, now that I have found your log I will be following with great interest, you clearly do very good work!

I say 30 hours because all I have left is the three boats to rig up and I'm procrastinating it.  I started this build in 2007 and wish I did not do two things, one was use the kits belaying pins, and two was to follow the instructions and rig the sheets and stays towards the end.  It put a lot of strain on the eyes and brain.

I used steel rod in the main and fore lower spars that were split.  The rest I turned on a Dremel lathe from square stock using the kits spars as a guide.

Gad, time flies, its has been ten years since I did this. 

I don't have 3 cats, but I have 2 goldens, so I can empathize with your statement.  Not sure how you know that you have 30 hours left, since every task I set out to revise seems to take at least twice as long as I thought.  Not complaining - I am in no real hurry, and would rather do a job well rather than quickly.  I do remember back from my first crack at this years ago, that getting tension on the top lines WITHOUT bending the masts in all directions caused me quite a few headaches.

If I might ask, how did you do the spars?  The rest are relatively straight-forward, as they just taper from one end.  But the spars need to taper from the middle out.  Tough to do without a small lathe, I would think.  Any advice would be well received.

Bob

Hi Bob,

I have been floowing your build and am in awe with what you are doing.  I am about 30 hours away from being done my build.  All the booms, upper masts, and most of the spars were relpace with wood and I used steel rod in the lower masts.  I  learned from earlier Revell builds that rigging plastic masts and spars is like trying to give three cats a bath at the same time. 

Scott

GM,

I concur.  Looking at the sprues, all 3 of the topgallant masts are warped as well.  Will be a hybrid of plastic at the bottom of the masts, with wood at the tops. 

On a side note, met a guy at my last IPMS meeting who says he has "7 or 8 of those Heller plastic ship models" which he will never get a chance to build.  I told him I would gladly take them off his hands if he can let me know which ones he has.  Hopefully get a list from him in April.  Hoping for a Soleil Royal in there somewhere!

Bob

I see you are on your way to a wood model. The plastic sailing ship model is a flawed concept when the windy parts are tackled (pun intended).

Got tired of tying blocks for guns, so moved on to the bowsprit.  both the jib and flying jib plastic pieces were warped - the flying jib looked like a snake.  Dolphin strikers also a sore point for most of us as well, as they are quite flimsy and easily broken.  I started by doubling up the dolphins by bonding .040 styrene to the back, essentially doubling the thickness.  Can barely tell once its painted.  Holes were all wrong, so I filled the originals and redrilled the correct number (one short) and in the correct places.  Also added the stretcher bar and wrought iron stiffener at the top of the "Y".  Finally, I added the missing block/roller under the iron bar.

Then I moved on to the jibs.  Got some hardwood dowels and marked out the areas for sanding and tapering.  Described below:

Once I was satisfied with how it all fits together, I stained the jibs and will give a coat or two of polyurethane before assembling.  Still need to do some paint touchups on the dolphin striker as well.  Also added stairs, blocks and a corrected fairlead with 9 holes for rigging the bowsprit.

I will say that overall EVERYTHING is much stiffer, and will be much stronger for rigging.  So I guess it was a good thing the flying jib was so ugly, or I might not have done the extra work.

Bob

Jim,

Might have overdone it with the inkwell, but you will be able to see it through the windows!  My philosophy: Go Big or Go Home!  

Finishing up rigging the port side cannons.  Still looking for a way to cover the LEDs so they look more like lanterns on the rest of the gun deck.  I am contemplating doing what Force 9 did to to open up his spar deck so that you could see more of the gun deck.  My wife also says it would be a shame to cover all this up.  Still have some time before I come to that bridge.

Bob

Geez Bob, where's the inkwell on the Commadores desk?

  Holy Smokes that is some detail.

Can you make the deck over the cabin removable? That is too good to hide

I love it. I could never do it, but I love this model ship. 

  THANKS BOB!

          Jim

So I have been working on the details of the gun deck furniture.  Biggest headache was the messenger cable.  Had to add a pulley to the main timber in the manger.  That would have been no big deal if I hadn't already installed the chain stopper bits.  But I got it in there somehow.  Second headache was trying to keep the messenger cable close to the deck - kept wanting to ride up.  Finally got it all squared away.

Did some puddening on the first anchor while watching a bit of golf.

Shots of the Captain's quarters:

Thanks Robert.  I truly appreciate the compliments.  This is really just my way of relaxing and "unwinding" my mind - and it keeps my hands busy as well. 

Bob - your time spent on building this ship is well worth every minute. Your talents and mastery to detail AND your wiring skills are amazing!!! Thank you for sharing your talents with us on this piece of art. 

So I have been very busy at work, but finally got the starboard gun tackle all rigged.  Still deciding how to tie up the loose rope.  Probably coil and lay on guns on the starboard side.  Port side are the guns rigged to "fire," so those will have gun crews on them and the ropes left loose and cut a bit shorter.

On the port side, guns were already in place due to running the fiber optics, but loosely sitting on deck.  So I rigged all the breach ropes on the guns by seizing both ends, then securing to the bulkheads via a pin dropped through the rope and then through an eyelet (drop of gorilla glue to hold in place).  Then I secured the guns to the deck in the firing position (one gun in loading position on each side).  I used a small brass nail glued to the bottom of the carriage, pressed it into the wood deck to mark, drilled a pilot hole, then glued in place with gorilla glue.  Also added a drop to each wheel before securing.  Guns are rock solid.  I will get to the tackle next, then finish up the deck furniture and add some crew to "man the guns!"

Bob

That is some beautiful work Bob. I love it.....Cheers mark

So here are a few shots of the knees and cannon rigging.  Four down, twenty-six to go!

Also a shot of one of the officer's head.

That's all for now.

Bob - Your work on the Constitution is Fantastic - Especially the wiring!!!  I hope you follow thru with your wife's and father-in-law's suggestion on making a video about using lighting and circuit boards. I am lucky to be doing some basic wiring of lights with my build. I admire your work on your build.

Been busy installing all the walls in the Captain's quarters and day cabin.  Also began installing all the knees on the gun deck.  I need to hide some of the wiring for the gun deck lighting, and all of those wires will be hidden in a channel in the knees.

Also started rigging the tackle for the cannons.  If ANYONE has a simple way to rig up the single and double blocks with the hooks and rope, I am all ears!  At this rate, it will take me until next Christmas to get all these guns rigged.

Bob

Steve, Dave, Scott & Rob,

Thanks for the compliments, guys.  Not as complicated as it looks.  I kept track of what lights went where when I was building the circuits on the board.  At assembly, all I had to do was hook them up.  Decided to solder everything for security.  Only complicated parts were the cabin lights, as I have 4 lights per circuit.  Since I didn't want them to flash in unison, I purposely mixed the wires around so it looks random (similar to the cannons).

Both my wife and father-in-law suggested I do a YouTube video of the basic wiring circuits so that others can benefit.  It's a little more complicated then that, and math is involved when it comes to choosing a power supply, but I am pretty sure most can add.  Hardest part is soldering the micro-circuitry to the board.

I will take a few photos or a video of the lights and try to post.  Probably thru YouTube, since Postimages doesn't do video.

Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas, and a Happy New Year.

Bob

Love the lighted effects.....just wonderful.

Merry Christmas...

Rob

Merry Christmas Bob,

Those are a lot of wires to keep track of and its looking very impressive.  Your deck is also very striking.  I am in the final phase of rigging (mizzen braces) on a 1/96 Constitution and I could not have thought of tackling a lighting project.

Good work,

Scott

Super impresssive, Bob!

I can't wait to see how the lights look!

Dave

really like what you are doing mate . wish I had the talent to do it too 

SHE'S FINALLY IN!

Hull already feels about 10 pounds heavier.  Will mount to temporary board tomorrow and test the lighting.  Hopefully all is well.  I quadruple checked everything.  I hope.

Bob

Just caught up with your Build. Beautiful work so far.....Cheers Mark

All the gun doors have been set in place and rigged.  Final rigging to cleats will happen after I install the gun & berth deck combo.

Power hook up wires added to inside of lower hull, and final circuits added.

I will test all circuits one last time, then install the gun deck.

I found a Model Shipwrights Club here in the Chicago suburbs.  Talked with the club president and plan on attending their meeting next week.  As a bonus, it is their annual pizza party, so I get to meet new people AND eat pizza.  Perhaps I should bring a single malt with me? 

Anyone else attend these meetings?

Bob