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Dragon 1/350 USS Princeton wip

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:26 AM

Hey Fermis ;

 Bistue and I would both agree .You'rs doing swimmingly with this " Floaty Thingy "T.B.

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:06 AM

Thanks dudes!

 

Moving along...finally!

For as large as the hanger deck is...very little is visible, which does make things a bit easier (requiring less stuff to be in there).

 

 

I got all the pieces that attach to the deck on and painted. It's now down to the tiny details, railings and guns!

 

 

 

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Posted by fermis on Friday, April 12, 2019 8:39 PM

Many frustrating hours later, and a few rum-pops...the railings are all on, along with the obvious bigger stuff.

 

 

Now, with one rum-pop down, and a fresh[full] glass on the bench....time to take on all those tiny guns.***sigh***

 

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, April 12, 2019 8:55 PM

just caught up with ythis build fermis , look's amazing .

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Saturday, April 13, 2019 7:53 AM

I had lost track of this one,its just outstanding.

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Posted by surfsup on Monday, April 15, 2019 6:40 PM

Always loved you work my Friend and this is no exception. Beautifully done so far.....Cheers mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Thursday, May 16, 2019 5:55 PM

Thanks again all. Sorry for the long delay...spent a couple weeks in Hawaii, and had to get things ready for work season...and get to work!

I have finally gotten over a major hurdle. The guns...the tiny, tiny guns.

Very tedious, frustrating, and made me not want to play at the bench.

 

1st set are quads....50 individual pieces, each.

 

 

..and the twins, at 33 pieces each...

 

 

There is also 22 single 20mm guns. I pretty much built those in place, on the model. Too damn tiny and delicate...I know I would have destroyed at least a few of them, if they were installed after building.

 

As she stands now...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:17 PM

All those 20's and 40's......the patience of 5 saints.  And still sober enough to take pics and typeBig Smile

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:37 PM

goldhammer

All those 20's and 40's......the patience of 5 saints.  And still sober enough to take pics and typeBig Smile

 

Haha..sober when I took the pics and posted. Can't say the same for when I was working on those things!Propeller

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  • From: EG48
Posted by Tracy White on Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:21 PM

Sorry I'm late to the party - work has been so busy that I haven't had much time for hobbies this year.

I'm glad to see such a good build of somehting a bunch of us put a lot of time into!

Tracy White Researcher@Large

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, May 17, 2019 8:24 AM

Hey Fermis,

This build is looking outstanding.  Your balance of colors and the attention to details are top notch.  

Scott

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  • From: providence ,r.i.
Posted by templar1099 on Friday, May 17, 2019 1:44 PM

Just absolutely beautiful work Fermis.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Monday, May 20, 2019 7:39 AM

Thanks guys!Toast

This has been quite the challenge, being that I am not a ship builder. It has been frustrating as all get out...yet still enjoyable, at the same time!

I'm going to have to use the "phone a friend" option now. Regarding the flags.

The kit comes with a limited selection, but doesn't even make any suggestion as to where they would go...other than the US flag going on the bow mast...which does not match up to any refs I have. I have added an extra "mast" to the main mast for the US flag, matching all my refs.

I have a much more comprehensive set of flags, from Alliance. But again, there is no indication of what flags should go where. The final model will be depicting aircraft in the process of being launched (if that means anything regarding flags?)

 

Help???

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 20, 2019 8:40 AM

Here's a photo of the island of USS Independence, CVL-22. Courtesy of Navsource, labeled June 1944.

The radar fit is different than yours, and other details. But there looks to be a pair of gaffs pointed back towards the stern, both angled upward. The national ensign is flown between them, while not moored. It is not flown at the bow. When moored, the national ensign is flown at the stern. The staff at the bow is for flying the Union Jack, but only when moored. In your case, it would be the blue one with stars, not the "don't tread on me" jack.

Flight launching is definitely an "at sea" condition.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by fermis on Monday, May 20, 2019 2:30 PM

Thanks G....I have gotten that far, and have added that small mast (that the flag is hanging directly from)...

What I'm after, at this point, is...would any of these other flags be in use...and where would they be???

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, May 20, 2019 3:34 PM

I'll defer to the experts.

See this:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/23.htm

The radio call sign is November Foxtrot Delta Charlie.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Seattle, WA
Posted by Surface_Line on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 12:22 AM

fermis
What I'm after, at this point, is...would any of these other flags be in use...and where would they be???

Yes, they could be of use.  Two parts to the answer:

1) to communicate with other Navy ships, the signals are all in a classified codebook.  You don't have access to it.  You can make up a signal, and hang it, outboard, top to bottom on the signal haliards (the several lines that are on the yards, going down to the "flag bags".)  Make up a signal like AD28, (which my Pusser's Rum cup tells me means "Splice the mainbrace") 

2) to communicate with civilian or other nations' ships that would not hve access to the US classified codes, you would use the International Code of Signals.  The current one is here: http://www.seasources.net/PDF/PUB102.pdf.  We can assume/pretend that the same book was in effect in 1944.  Take a look through the book and dream up a situation for which you might need to tell that approaching ship.

Example: "I require immediate assistance; I have damaged steering gear."  Go to page 33 and find that the signal to display is CB 2.  (put a flag-length space between the letters and the number.)

The choices are endless.  Have fun.

Rick

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:11 PM

Thanks for the inputToast

I think I'm going to keep it simple.

US flag....and the "red diamond on white" (aircraft ops), in line with with the US, but lower and on another halyard.

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Posted by amphib on Wednesday, May 22, 2019 5:30 AM

I think that makes sense. A carrier launching planes would not be operating near other ships other than her escorts and certainly would not be flying casual signals in international codes. If I remember correctly the radio call signs were only flown entering or leaving port.

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Posted by nearsightedjohn on Thursday, June 6, 2019 9:50 AM

You’ve done a great job on this build. The only Dragon 1/350 ship I’ve built was the Chavalier Destroyer and, while the molded in detail was fabulous, separating the small parts from the spruces was crazy hard and the assembly was very fiddly (especially the AA guns). I especially like the faded deck/ worn wood in center look that you achieved. Nice job!

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Saturday, June 8, 2019 8:33 PM

Thanks again, fellas...Toast

I also did the Chevalier, a couple years ago. All pics are on P/B...so...well...

Back to the task at hand...

It's been...just sittin...waiting.

Been ticking away a little here and there. (Been too busy with work)

 

Anyway...did all the antenna wires and various lines, as well as the flags.

I did the decal flags on a piece of aluminum foil, so I could "shape" them. I start em out flat, naturally...after a few minutes, some micro-sol..then a few more minute...I cut em and bend to shape.

 

 

 

 

 

For the antennas in the port side...the provided plastic "uprights" were way too flexible. After a couple attempts of adding the "wires"....I uttered a slew of words fit for nobody but sailors and got rid of the damned things (I'm a pilot...not a sailor!).

I replaced em with aluminum tubing, and things went well from there.

 

 

All that's left now is the ships props, the rest of the Hellcats, then weathering/finishing!

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  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Monday, June 10, 2019 3:19 AM

She is looking mighty fine indeed Fermis. Love the work so far.....Cheers mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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