revell pilgrim ship 1/83 mayflower

You could have left them there and the Shop could have Babysat them for you. No need to add more clutter.....LMAO. Besides the fun and frivolity you should do a very nice job on the Mayflower. Will watch with interest.....Cheers mark

steve5

while I was at my LHS picking up supplies , these two beauties were on special . what was I to do

Yea, I have the same problem when I visit the Animal Shelter......... all the kitty's MUST come home with me !

I almost bought the 1973 release of this kit, just a few week's ago.  ( My wife decided that since I already had 4 kit's in my hand's, that I should leave one for someone else.)

I got the same response from my better half , except she said 2 was enough

Hand her $ 50 and send her over to Macys.

My gosh, what a haul.

It's always a good thing to see another P Liner. That one was the Padua. How many more Preussens and Pamirs does the world need?

I have never seen the Condorcet model. That one has me interested.

littletimmy

ave the same problem when I visit the Animal Shelter......... all the kitty's MUST come home with me !

Borat

I couldn't pass it up bill , $85 au , about $60us .

In my experience, no three or more mast, ship rigged model is a quick build.  Battleship does look like more likely quick build.

What I meant Don was , it should only take a couple of months , not years, like the victory has

Hey Steve, can’t wait to see you start. Yours will better than mine, guaranteed.

finally got it started , MM dk tan on the main hull , tamiya colours for the stripes , will get on with the weathering in the next few day's . 

I still remember all the testing you did in your's mate , I learnt a fair bit then steve .

steve5

What I meant Don was , it should only take a couple of months , not years, like the victory has

 

Ah, that makes sense.  I have that Mayflower kit so will be following this thread closely.  Amazing how many photos I found on Google images of the reproduction.

steve5

inally got it started , MM dk tan on the main hull , tamiya colours for the stripes , will get on with the weathering in the next few day's . 

Looks good, Steve.

steve5

I still remember all the testing you did in your's mate , I learnt a fair bit then steve .

Yeah buddy--I learned a bunch too with help by others. People like John Tilley, GM, and many others. I still plan to resurect that project but probably not for 2 to 3 years. Too many other projects that I want to finish first. 

My one piece of advice to you, glue the transom well, it likes to pop. I used epoxy for good measure and it still popped. 

Have fun with this.

One of these days I’ll up and buy Dr. Graham’s “Remembering Revell Model Kits”.

I believe he states that the model was developed from the same compiled drawings and specifications that were used to design and build Mayflower II.

Those in turn were created by the famous naval architect William Baker professor at MIT based on generic ship design of the period and previous studies at reconstructions. He was originally commissioned to do so by Project Mayflower at the Plimoth Plantation. That was an initiative on this side of the waters.

A British historian whose name escapes me right now independently conceived of the idea to build the ship as a tribute to our combined alliance in the war.

These two groups joined forces and the ship was built in 1956.

Its a marvelous, if small, ship well worth the trip to see.

I too will be keeping an eye on this build. I picked Mayflower up at Hobby Lobby in Buffalo, NY a couple of days after my granddaughter was born (first grandchild) in 2014, so there's some sentimental value and I am really fascinated with early American history.

chris - thank's mate , glad to have you along

G - love your history lessons , we're never too old to learn

steve - this is a layer of oil wash , [burnt umber] , it has toned it down a bit , still a bit too smooth , might have to look your old log up .

found your old log mate , photobucket , all the pic's are blurred out .

what do you think of a black wash ? , or a light coat of tamiya DK brown panel liner 

GM,

In response to your question about P-Liners, I took Heller's Cap Horn,which was actually their Preussen rekitted as a 5-masted barque, and built it (with appropriate mods) as the P-Liner Potosi.  Whereas Cap Horn never existed, Potosi was real and had not ever been marketed as a ship model kit.  It is an interesting addition to my collection!

Bill

steve5

found your old log mate , photobucket , all the pic's are blurred out .

what do you think of a black wash ? , or a light coat of tamiya DK brown panel liner 

 

Hi Steve, what you have done so far looks good. I wish I could give you some advice about using a wash here, but in the end, I didn’t use a wash.

My first test was with using stain over MM Acrylic Wood. That produced a beautiful appearance like new varnished wood. By itself it looked great, but I was looking for a weathered look, so I migrated to using a salt finish. I started with a darker base color, applied the salt, over-sprayed with a lighter color, then removed the salt. The end result was a blotchy appearance, a sort of aging effect. After that I sprayed a top layer of color to push the blotches back into the model just enough to leave a hint of blotchiness. That got me where I wanted to be. My only regret is that on the final color layer I should have used a lighter color. The hull came out kind of dark, and when I do this again, I will go lighter.

The only time I used washes was with the decking, so with that said, I don’t know if any of this helps you. If my method doesn’t strike you, maybe the David K or Docidle school of thought will. 

Before the night is out I will find and post an image of my model just before I punted. Maybe that will help you decide.

Updated: During my testing I did experiment with using oil paints, so maybe that is what you are thinking of. I couldn't get it to work to my liking, and that is what sent me to trying a salt method.

Steve, here is one of the last images I took. My camera lightened up the color more than it actually is. I really like how it looks in this image, but it’s not entirely accurate. 

Thanks Bill , do you have any pics , would like to see it .

I remember now that you have reminded me of your salt method , with wood stain . I couldn't use that because I had all those colours on the  sides . so I did a couple of layers , gloss coat , layer of DK brown tamiya panel liner . with a final layer of humbrol flat clear . I am seeing the individual panels on the hull now . not as oakish as yours , pity , but with that aged look , getting there . the stern I haven't done yet as there is a few gap's which will have to be filled and sanded . I will do them then . the model is not this shiney just the light .

Hey Steve-  with your closeup shots I can see the panel line/grain work. It looks good.

I hear you about the shiny. I had a heck of a time showing the work as it looks. My camera loved to shift colors, erase detail, and produce glare that was not visible to your eye. It's frustrating. 

I like what I see, my friend. Looking good!

finally got around to glueing the hull together , starting to look like a ship '

Yes it is Steve.

Looking great!

couldn't believe it , turned around and snapped the bow support off , easy fix , just a pain in the preverbial . just drilled a .8mm hole with some same gauge brass rod .

and a quick update shot

Steve, forgive me for laughing but I broke the bowsprit twice. I eventually left it broke until I was done manhandling the hull. 

Nice fix sir, and looking good!

It's a good idea to put the model on a temporary build base. I make cheap ones up that give me the ability to lay the model on it's side.

Looking good Steve! Keep the pics coming.

Jim