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Trumpeter 05748 USS Quincy-CA39 1/700 scale General questions paint, etc

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  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 31, 2020 6:35 PM

First off, Trumpeter makes color callouts by way of ouija board, and they are zero guide to appearance.

Second off, as Bill aludes to above, the USN used it's own paint scheme and labeled it very uniquely.  To the point that FS standards just do not really match.  Which was made a bit worse by the colors being defined on a purple-blue system, at a time when violet pigments were in short supply.

What's really hard to tell from the Navsource photos is if the turret tops were in Deck Blue (per the directives) or not.

It looks--to me--like the vertical srufaces above the main deck are in two colors, which might be the Light Gray.  Clearly looks like four colors to my eye.

That color photo is a bit over-exposed and washed out (a known issue ith early color stock).  It may be Kodachrome film stock, which will render things away from blue (and was very dependent on the cameraman wisely using color filters o nthe lens).

So, that hull could be Sea Blue with Ocean Gray splotching, then the super structure Ocean Gray with Haze Gray splotching (three colors and not four).  But, that's just speculation on my part.

Another handy source is here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_ship_camouflage_measures_of_the_United_States_Navy

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, May 31, 2020 5:32 PM

Hello William,

Your picures don't show up for me.

Here's one very good resource for USN ship camouflage.

shipcamouflage.com/usn_ca.htm

They say Measure 12 Mod.

Those colors would be 5-O Ocean Gray, 5-H Haze Gray, 5-S Sea Blue and 20-B Deck Blue. Which combination depends on the ship.

Here's a picture from Navsource ust before she was sunk.

Certainly looks like M12, not Haze Gray. I doubt she was painted in the next six days.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/04/039/04039.htm

Folks struggle all the time to find color equivalents. There's an easier way. I have switched from Colourcoats to Model Master and now to AK Interactive acrylic paint. Their set No.1 for USN WW2 will give you all you need.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Trumpeter 05748 USS Quincy-CA39 1/700 scale General questions paint, etc
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, May 31, 2020 5:04 PM

First of all thanks to those who helped with suggestions on what to do next.  Helpful.  So a couple of questons re: color---  still trying to decide what pattern.  In looking at the painting and marking guide, the colors are listed for Hobby color & Mr color - i dont have either of those brands.  That being said i have worked the conversion and if anyone is familiar - a comment if these seem right for Tamiya acrylic if i follow the above scheme.  Gold X12, XF09 Hull red, XF1 Black, XF 57 Buff, XF18 Medium blue, XF17 Sea blue.  The H55/71(Midnight blue)  I see no equivelant.  

Can anyone tell me what pattern the above is?  Ms 12 modified?  According to the book I have, ShipCraft, New Orleans Class Cruisers by Lester Abbey, thats what she was in 1942.  But the book also says she was Ms 13 splotched when she was sunk.  Ms 13 is basically haze gray and deck blue topsides - does "splotched" mean they patterned it too?

any suggestions on how i might get the port holes to stand out a little after painting?  They are tiny and im afraid the paint might fill them in.  Drill them out?

How can I tell what year the model is suppose to represent?  Im guessing the year she sunk, '42.  I did not see where she was modified like the others in her class and i think she only had 2 over hauls - no major refit - i think.

 

Lastly i found this from https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measures.htm

 

do these formuas refers to navy paint codes?

 

tks William

Tags: CA-39 , USS Quincy

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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