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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 16, 2020 2:26 PM

This is one of the few color pics I can find of the actual Spee. It is probably colorized but it looks like the deck was natural. And of course she is not in her River Plate camo.

Is that the Hood in the background?

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, July 16, 2020 2:15 PM

I finally got what I hope is the last thing I need for the Draf Spee.  The photo etch set arrived last week.  I have that, gun barrels, hopefully the right paint, and the wood deck.  Now just finish up what little I have left on my other project and I'm off.  Scratch that, never say off about me.  I can begin.

Wait a minute, should the deck be of a particular color?  I had planned to leave it just the way it came.  I would think that staining the wood might remove the detail.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:57 PM

You'll want Dunkelgrau 51 for the hull and Hellgrau 50 for the upper works.

I see the AK Interactive does include those two in the Kreigsmarine set they sell. My mistake.

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Posted by BBorBust on Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:28 PM

I am having trouble finding the paints listed that I need for the Koenig. The paint that ICM recommends are humbrol. And about half of the paints needed are out of stock. I may order what I can get and keep my eyes peeled for the others as they come back in stock.

 

In the meantime, I will be finishing up the KGV and probably start working on the NC until I get all of the supplied I need for the Koenig.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:32 AM

I use Imageshack, have for years. There is a reasonable yearly fee though.

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:30 AM

How would you fix a resin warped hull?  

Woiuldn't you know it?  My printer and computer have stopped talking  to each other, some kind of compatability dispute they were having I guess, so no new photos will be scanned into any photo posting service for a while.

Speaking of which, I need to find a new, easy to use service.  lomg story.

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:43 AM

ikar01

Just how good are these ICM and Combrig kits?  I have noticed that some of hte kits mentioned are resin, shat about these?  So far I have builr only a couple resin iron clads, the Austrailian monitor Cereberus, and the the Reuben James which were not bad kits, although the James was kind of a strange looking little ship that looked like a last minute conversion from some other class of ship.

 

I have not built an ICM kit, but have just finished my first resin kit, which was a Kombrig USS Kansas.  The molding was nice, pin holes and sinks were non-existant. Just a slight warp in the hull.  I'll looking to try another one.

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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 11:09 AM

Just how good are these ICM and Combrig kits?  I have noticed that some of hte kits mentioned are resin, shat about these?  So far I have builr only a couple resin iron clads, the Austrailian monitor Cereberus, and the the Reuben James which were not bad kits, although the James was kind of a strange looking little ship that looked like a last minute conversion from some other class of ship.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:04 AM

No they are not.

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Posted by BBorBust on Monday, July 6, 2020 9:50 PM

So as mentioned on here, I am building the ICM Koenig. It is configured in its WWI configuration. I am trying to find the correct paints. I see the AK Interactive german navy paint set, but it is for WWII. There isnt a fancy camo pattern or anything shown. So I am assuming the greys, and hull color are close to the same?

 

I just want to make sure before I order it. Thanks!

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:51 PM

The latest 2014 release is two. The only difference is that one ship had two screws, the other four.

previous boxing's had either/ or parts.

Id look for one of those.

All OOP but not hard to find.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:23 PM

Well then,  it makes a great kitbash.

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:14 PM

Oddly enough, that was what I was going to do with it.  It would have looked good, maybe, next to the Space Assault ship Toronaga, Space Fire Support ship William Tell, and the interdiction ship Sweeney Todd, that I had built.  I'm still wondering if I should do something to the Prince of Wales.  I would still have to build a French, Italian, and British battleship for my kid's collection, but the King George V is still out there.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:51 PM

The Revell Emdon has been out for several years, 1994 so Scalemates states. It's boxed with the Dresden. I think it's a double kit but please don't quote me.

I'd stay away from the Revell Missouri and New Jersey. They are poorly molded and intended to be played with. In fact, the Mo is what I turned in to a space battleship.

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:43 PM

When did the Emden come out?  The only 1/350th Revell ship I have ever seen was the Jersey, and that was abouit two years ago on a vendor's table at Modelpalooza.  Dumb me, I forgot to go back and pick it up because my wife had me mostly tied down working the club table, and he only wanted 20.00 for it.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:51 PM

I was thinking seriously about getting that kit at some time

Steve

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:56 PM

For those interested, the classic Revell Emden kit was probably the first Revell ship in 1/350.

Its a fine kit and for a long time was about all there was WW1.

Don S. has won awards with his model.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:56 PM

BB, IMO, of the PE sets I have built with, Eduard is the easest, followed by White Ensign, Hasegawa then Tom's, due either to their thickness or instructions. I have never tried Flyhawk and have several off brand Chinese sets which seem to be fine. They all look good when finished and sometimes one manufacturer is all that's available. If you need any assistance with the instructions just let us know. Someone will undoubtedly be able to help. The Hase set I'm using for the Akagi is incredably thin and while the insttructions are fine, the parts are extreamly fragile.

GM, good history. I don't know much of the WW1 naval battles but should. There were a lot more than just Jutland.

retdfeuerwehr, that sounds fine. Did you want me to put down all three?

Steve

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Posted by retdfeuerwehr on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:18 PM

I have two scratchbuilt 1/350 scale German WW2 commerce raiders (Atlantis and Pinguin), plus a scratchbuilt Sperrbrecher.....are these eligible?

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:31 AM

I'll want to see that. I have seen a couple of photos. I think she's in deep water.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:54 AM

One of the "Drain" programs in the last week or so was on finding the wrecks of that battle.  They did find Scharnhorst.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:14 AM

Thanks Steve, yes it will be a nice model.

I don't know why but the Germans seemed to always want a pair of cruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau.

Short history and if you are interested read Castles of Steel.

She and the second Gneisenau were both launched in 1906 and were the capital ships of the German East Asia Squadron, based in Tsingtao China.

As you know, Tsingtao Beer is a 100 plus year old brewery that bottles an excellent lager.

Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were 8" cruisers. The squadron also included the 4" light cruisers Emden, Nurnberg and Leipzig. Later joined by Dresden. 

At the outbreak of war in August 1914 the Squadron left China to sail to Germany via the Cape at South America. Emden was dispatched to the west to raid in the Indian Ocean.

All ships were repainted from the peacetime buff over white, to gray.

Emden created her own story, well worth a read The Last Cruise of the Emden.

The Squadron sailed to Chile and engaged the British at the Battle of Coronel on 11/1/1914, sinking two cruisers. 

The Squadron continued around the Cape Horn and entered the Atlantic intending to sail home.

On November 8, 1914 the British received information about the battle and sent two 12" battlecruisers, Inflexible and Invincible to battle the Germans.

On December 7, the Squadron attacked the Falkland Islands, intending to destroy the wireless station and capture the coal bunkered there.

Unexpectedly, the two British ships and three cruisers had arrived at the Falklands a day before and were anchored behind a headland which obscured their presence until the Germans were in close range.

In the ensuing engagement on December 8, the British sank Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and all of the cruisers except Dresden, which escaped and returned to Germay.

Maximillian Von Spee was killed on Scharnhorst (the flag ), his son Otto was killed on Nurnberg and his son Heinrich was killed on Gneisenau .

 

 

 

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Posted by BBorBust on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:27 PM

Yeah my railing and cranes kit from Eduard for the KGV has been good with a few small mishaps. (First time really doing PE). But I couldn't find an Eduard kit for the Koenig anywhere. I saw a kit from white ensign and toms. White ensign was backordered so I went with the toms kit. See how it goes. 

i do have the full pe detail set from Eduard for the North Carolina. Should be here in the next day or two. 

Question is, do I start on the North Carolina, or the Koenig first!?  Confused

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:42 PM

GMorrison

I'd like to enter with an old stash member.

SMS Scharnhorst, a full hull resin kit from Combrig. 1/350.

I'll have to make some decisions about era and paint scheme.

 

 

I’m definitely looking forward to seeing you build this kit Bill! I know you’ll do an outstanding job on her.  I’ve always wondered how resin kits go together, now I have a chance to see it.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:39 PM

BBorBust

I havent started on the Koenig yet. But looking over the ICM kit, I decided that the kit desperately needed PE. So I ordered the PE detail kit from toms modelworks today to go with it.

 

Matt,

Tom’s PE is a good set. Just be aware that it is delicate so you won’t have more than two maybe three attempts at bending it before it breaks. 

The Konig definitely needs PE, especially for rails. It’s gotten to the point for me that a ship doesn’t look finished without it.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with her.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:37 PM

BBorBust
So I ordered the PE detail kit from toms modelworks today to go with it.

That's great BB. You will quickly find however that Tom's is not in the same league as Eduard. The quality is just fine but the instructions leave a lot to be desired. Once you figure them out though, they look good Yes

Steve

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:33 PM

modelcrazy

I'd hate to have to type that link in.

Left Hug 

No kidding! Thank goodness that the link works Confused

       

 

 

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Posted by BBorBust on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:50 PM

I havent started on the Koenig yet. But looking over the ICM kit, I decided that the kit desperately needed PE. So I ordered the PE detail kit from toms modelworks today to go with it.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, June 29, 2020 8:35 AM

I'd hate to have to type that link in.

Steve

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Posted by ikar01 on Sunday, June 28, 2020 3:54 PM

After several tries using my credit card and getting nowhere, I decided to take a chance and use my disability card from the V.A./Gov't.  To my surprise, it actually went through, I should have it from the guy you recommended (thank you for that,) in a couple weeks, then maybe the smaller guns from Shapeways.

I went into town yesterday trying to find the paints I'll need, or as close as I could get so I'm pretty much ready there.

Then, on to s few computer problems taken care of so I can post pictures again.  I've got some time on this one.

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