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Posted by Tankluver on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:19 PM

stikpusher

Here is a related question. WWII era USN flight decks are constructed of wood and metal. X amount of planks, followed by a metal  frame with tie down cleats, repeat, from the forward end of the flight deck to the after end. Obviously the wood planking will be in ”Flight Deck Stain”. What color is the tie down cleat framing? Deck Blue? Can stain be used on the metal portions?

 

I always wondered this as well. I've seen deck kits for the 1/350 carriers and always see them advertised as the wooden deck but when i look at the paint instructions it's the deck blue color. it always confused me And left me asking the question of would it be a wood color or is it stained? 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 31, 2020 6:00 PM

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stikpusher

USS Hornet CV-8 wore MS-12 Modified for most of her short service life. Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Sea Blue were the colors used on all vertical surfaces.

https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_12_modified.htm

 

 

 

The wooden deck was stained, IIRC Norfolk 251.   It's color value would be similar to 5-O Ocean Gray.   No major deck markings, just some alignment lines. 

 

 

 

Oh, well that's an easy repaint at this stage.

 

http://www.modelwarships.com/features/current/hornet-color/hornet-color.htm

This authors conclusion seems to be that the deck was 250-N at the time of her sinking (wood parts). metal parts 20-B. Color back in April? His conclusion seems to be the same, for lack of conflicting evidence.

 

Bill

 

Yes

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, August 31, 2020 5:55 PM

yes

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 31, 2020 4:59 PM

ddp59

will be paint not stain as stain is for prous materials like wood & concrete.

 

That makes sense. So then would the paint on the framing be Deck Blue? My semi educated wild a$$ guess says that...

 

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, August 31, 2020 3:39 PM

will be paint not stain as stain is for prous materials like wood & concrete.

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, August 31, 2020 2:28 PM

Here is a related question. WWII era USN flight decks are constructed of wood and metal. X amount of planks, followed by a metal  frame with tie down cleats, repeat, from the forward end of the flight deck to the after end. Obviously the wood planking will be in ”Flight Deck Stain”. What color is the tie down cleat framing? Deck Blue? Can stain be used on the metal portions?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, August 31, 2020 1:57 PM
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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, August 31, 2020 1:49 PM

So 251 is the lines etc.?

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Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, August 31, 2020 1:46 PM
So, what is the difference between 250N and 251N? This document from the Norfolk ship yard throws a bit of light on the subject! "Low Visibility Flight Deck Stain (Formula 250N) and Low Visibility Flight Deck Marking Stain (Formula 251N) - Specifications for." http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/S19-7/1942DecemberFlightDeckStain.html

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, August 31, 2020 12:24 PM

From a couple of sources I have decided to go with 250-N for my April 1942 flight deck. I ordered Scale Colors USN Norfolk 250N Flight Deck Stain. For the hanger deck, the best I could come up with is Model Air 71.053 Dark Sea Gray; and white for the walls.

https://scalecolors.com/shop/

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:49 AM

EdGrune

 

 
stikpusher

USS Hornet CV-8 wore MS-12 Modified for most of her short service life. Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Sea Blue were the colors used on all vertical surfaces.

https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_12_modified.htm

 

 

 

The wooden deck was stained, IIRC Norfolk 251.   It's color value would be similar to 5-O Ocean Gray.   No major deck markings, just some alignment lines. 

 

Oh, well that's an easy repaint at this stage.

http://www.modelwarships.com/features/current/hornet-color/hornet-color.htm

This authors conclusion seems to be that the deck was 250-N at the time of her sinking (wood parts). metal parts 20-B. Color back in April? His conclusion seems to be the same, for lack of conflicting evidence.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, August 30, 2020 6:45 AM

stikpusher

USS Hornet CV-8 wore MS-12 Modified for most of her short service life. Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Sea Blue were the colors used on all vertical surfaces.

https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_12_modified.htm

 

The wooden deck was stained, IIRC Norfolk 251.   It's color value would be similar to 5-O Ocean Gray.   No major deck markings, just some alignment lines. 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:30 PM

USS Hornet CV-8 wore MS-12 Modified for most of her short service life. Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Sea Blue were the colors used on all vertical surfaces.

https://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_12_modified.htm

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:39 PM

I can answer you in detail when I get home tomorrow. 
The deck is stained Weather Deck Blue 20B.

Thats a nice model.

 

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Doolittle raid hornet 1/350
Posted by Tankluver on Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:55 PM

I am currently working on trumpeters 1/350 uss hornet doolittle raid. I have bith sets of an interactive for the us navy paints. What are going to be my primary paints for this? some paints translate over well form the directions and some of them are close but not exactly. also i notice that the deck isn't a wood color it's more of a gray blue. What would be the best color for this out of the ak set. Luckily i already have the paint masks for this kit too

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