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  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:42 PM

Bill,

I agree; that is a great book!

Bill

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:33 AM

"Six Frigates" by Ian Toll is a good source.

The US Navy performed very poorly against the British during the Revolution in part because they were up against the most powerful navy on the seas, but also it was nascent, poorly organized and the ships were small.

Through some super efforts of John Adams, Alexander Hamilton and others, one part of the creation of a Federal Government was commissioning six modern, capable fighting ships and their crews and officers. Some thought bigger, some thought smaller, the results worked out well.

Six yards each built a ship of their own design in respect to the specification connected with financing. And as was usual for the time, the captain to-be had a strong hand in design during construction.

As the USN was in its early stages, things such as captain and officer lists were not well established.

The first real conflict was various scrappy "quasi" engagements in the west Atlantic, but really the Barbary Pirates episode.

Good book about the foundation of the Navy.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, November 14, 2020 9:35 AM

Ikar,

You must be talking about the USS Philadelphia, which went aground near Tripoli in February, 1804. Captured by the Tripolitans, Stephen Decatur lead a small band of Sailors and Marines to burn her, which they succeeded in doing. She was not a sister of USS Constitution, being a 36-gun 18-pound Frigate. Constitution was designed to be a 44-gun 24 pound frigate. One Constitution class Frigate, USS President, went aground while trying to escape the British blockade and was captured, but she was not burned.

Bill

  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Orlando, Florida
Posted by ikar01 on Friday, November 13, 2020 7:40 PM

Wasn't there a sister ship that had been captured and then destroyed by the Marines in a raid while she was in port?  I think they snuk on board and burned it.  It could make for an interesting diorama if that was the case.

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Friday, November 13, 2020 7:11 PM

I feel for you rick , something like that happened to arizona 1/350 . I think i was along the lines of greg , Censored .said all to myself of course .

 

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Friday, November 13, 2020 2:36 PM

Kudos on making the best of one of those situations that life seems to hand us all once in a while.

Mine was a custom-detailed and fully rigged Bismarck that 'sailed' off a cabinet to its doom when someone (who should have known better) decided to move a lamp.

I didn't cry...quite...but I found myself speaking some German I didn't even realize I knew. Censored

Good luck with your 'new' build!

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: Cape Cod, Mass
Constitution disaster
Posted by Rick Sr on Friday, November 13, 2020 1:50 PM

While my 1/96 Connie was by all means not the best here, it was coming out nicely.

On a visit by my 10 year old grand daughter, she went to the basement with her girl friend to show her the Connie. She picked it up, and they were eyeing it, moving it around when she dropped it on the floor. Her little friend stumbled trying to catch it and fell forward, stepping on it. They were afraid they were going to be killed!

The hull was broken beyond repair, being crushed.. I had just set the masts in and was rigging the spars.

I went into a silent funk for awhile, but did have the third Connie ( I had three kits). I gave one to my son, and started the first one, the one that was stomped on.

The funk is over. Last evening I gathered all the guns, gun deck and spar deck, what ever was salvageble and started on the third hull.

The lessons learned on the first attempt have already helped. Joining the hull together, I held the two section against the lights to see any gaps where they were joining and sanded the high spots out. It was a sweet joint. I also had a problem lining up the masthead on the first, and sanded that then double clamped it, it went together nicely.

My grandaughter had been devaststed too. And she's still with us. I gave her a ten spot, then told her the least she could do was take Grampy ut fora hot fudge sundae.

I just wish I didn't have to rig all the guns back in!

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