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Phoenician or Greek-Or even Roman?

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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Phoenician or Greek-Or even Roman?
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, July 4, 2021 9:59 AM

    Here's one:

    ( Gosh, I wish I was over this picture posting problem) As I Posted in Autos, I was in my Favorite Flea Market yesterday.( I go there to visit friends and excercise as well as spend a few Bucks, NEVER over Twenty Bucks to acquire multiple items). I stopped for coffee and was moseying along and my periphial Vision Spots Something!

     What! Oh, Good heavens!! a Tri or Bi Reme hull ( But, Just the frames, on a BUILDING BOARD!! ) Now based on the lines I have been Able to deduce she's a Bi-Reme. Based on the Keel and Stem and Aft end she's either Greek, Roman or Phoenician.

     My Question is this. Who ever put out this kit! She's 23" inches long and has only twelve frames. The former builder even had gone so far as to sand the fore and aft frames at the proper angle for planking. The keel and Stern up-Curves are thus. Stern 3-1/2" High, Stem 2-3/4" high from the flat plane of the keel. She has No Ram or areas to fasten one. The lines are gorgeous though. She has a double floor where I believe the mast is mounted. there's a wooden plate on top of the keel with a circle and the number 14 Printed very neatly it on . All the Frames are numbered as is the parts for the building board!

    Sorry about no Pics- Still trying - From what I have described, does anyone have an idea? 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, July 4, 2021 10:07 AM

It might be Amati, although that one has a ram.

Did you buy it?



 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.


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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, July 4, 2021 10:14 AM

For a Buck-You Betchya!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, July 4, 2021 1:33 PM

Only 12 frames does sound like one of the Euro kit makers.

Amati could be one of those.  Or it was a short-run kit by a flash-in-the-pan maker, too.

Early ships like this are pretty rare over all.  Which is a shame.

And, a person would think the Euro makers would be all over a subject with little or no scale documenation as no one could gig them for being out of whack.

The skinny scantlings of such ancient craft could be a barrier, though.


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Posted by rocketman2000 on Monday, July 5, 2021 7:46 AM

I have never seen a decent, acurate plastic kit of a trireme.  Sure with there were- I would certainly buy it.

For those familiar with this wood kit, how accurate is it?

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, July 5, 2021 8:01 AM

Yeah Cap'n:

      Funny thing though. I searched my library boxes and found a book called " All the Worlds Ships. From Coracles to Liners". In there was a small drawing of a ship like mine. It was a freight carrying ship on the Med. It showed a Fore and Aft Lateen sail( A large one) and a full bank of oars on each side too! The book was printed for children in the late fifties!

       I bought it  at a Book sale, rather see it go to a landfill and Besides the pictures are Purty! This ship has an upward curving Stem that curves back over the deck. The one Aft is smaller and is also curved over the deck. In that space underneath is a canopy. I guess for the captain? Only on the Aft end though!


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