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Noah's ark by Minicraft
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 28, 2006 7:38 AM

Funny,

one of the next models produced by Minicraft will be Noah's ark.

http://www.minicraftmodels.com/Ships2.htm#

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, July 28, 2006 12:10 PM

Well...I guess anything that gets people - especially young people - interested in the hobby is a good idea.  A hull length of "over a foot" seems pretty small for a...ship...like this, though.  Those animals are going to have to be mighty small.

The Minicraft ad emphasises that the kit has been designed for families to work on together.  That's a concept I support whole-heartedly.  Quite a few years ago my wife, my stepdaughter and I built a series of life-size bird models by Bachmann, and all three of us enjoyed it tremendously.  We mounted all twelve birds on a stained wood plaque, which is still ornamenting the guest room.  And just a couple of weeks ago my nine-year-old grandson and I tackled the "Triceratops Diorama Set" from Tamiya.  The idea of modeling a dinosaur had never occurred to me before, but that kit is one of the best-designed ones I've ever seen.  The base includes a "pond" with a thin sheet of clear plastic over it (and fish and a prehistoric salamander below the surface), a "palm tree" with individual leaves made from plasticized crepe paper, and a pair of velociraptors (with individually-molded claws).  The instructions are beautifully done - and feature a section, obviously written by a zoologist, relating the known facts about the critters in question.  We finished the project in four sessions of two or three hours each - just about right for a kid of that age.  I confess I had trouble saying goodbye to our dinosaur when I packed him up in Ben's suitcase for the return flight to Texas.  Well done, Tamiya.  If this forthcoming Noah's Ark approaches the same level, I'll buy one for Ben's next visit. 

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Posted by Big Jake on Friday, July 28, 2006 1:32 PM
It's about time somebody popped one out, although I would have prefered it a bit bigger.  That way we can show the Corps of Engineers, FEMA and the Homebuilders Association what our houses should look like in New Orleans! 

 

 

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Posted by Gerarddm on Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:43 AM
From a DESIGN viewpoint, kind of a dumb idea- it could be anything. But from a bring-the-family together perspective, as noted a fine thought.
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Posted by usmc1371 on Monday, July 31, 2006 8:00 AM
Actually, from the Biblical writings and archeological evidence of how boats were built then, the shape and design of the Ark can be fairly well determined.

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Monday, July 31, 2006 9:25 AM
Won't get into the debate over how the ark is supposed to look, but the price tag certainly seems ridiculously high for a simplistic kit, in a small scale.  Now, if that sucker was about two feet long, and came with animals, it would be a great family model!
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Posted by Glamdring on Monday, July 31, 2006 6:49 PM

I think it's an interesting subject.  Of course, painting a ship that is all wood planking may be rather hard.  It took me two weeks just to do the deck of my Victory!

I concur that the price is a wee bit steep.  I should think that they will go on sale at a deep discount someday though.

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Posted by Big Jake on Monday, July 31, 2006 7:19 PM
Maybe it's got a full interior ;)

 

 

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:23 AM
Now, that would make it worth the price...with either a cutaway or a clear side?  It'll probably sell well in the bible-belt.
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Posted by bryan01 on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:29 AM

 usmc1371 wrote:
Actually, from the Biblical writings and archeological evidence of how boats were built then, the shape and design of the Ark can be fairly well determined.

You're joking....right.....!?

 

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Posted by Glamdring on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 5:01 PM
No, he is absolutely right.  The Bible states the dimensions of the Ark and archeological evidence can show how ships were built back then.....

Robert

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 5:20 PM

Now class, let's open our Bibles to the first book - Genesis, and turn to chapter 6.  There we will find a fairly decent description of how Noah was commanded by God to build the Ark to withstand the global deluge to come.  It states the exact dimensions, the materials used, and goes on to explain just how long it took Noah and his kin to construct this massive undertaking.  the entire story is a whopping 3 chapters, if you want the whole perspective of the legendary event.

Humans today would die of old age before that project was finished, but according to the Bible people lived much longer back then.  And there are some half-decent explanations for how that could be from a "Biblical perspective" combined with scientific considerations... but that's a whole other story.

If you loathe reading from the Bible, I am sorry to hear that.  And for that matter, I'd say unless you take the time to read that, you probably shouldn't have much to say about what is or is not "Biblically accurate." 

I am not going to comment on the accuracy, because I think it would do anyone a bit of good to go and read it themselves.  After all, we all research our model material when it comes to all the other goods, and here is the source of that particular subject.

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:26 PM

  I'm going to build one and send it to George Bush.

 

      No, really.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 12:30 AM
seriously, I think cthulhu could produce an extremely fine ark model.
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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 5:14 AM

 Glamdring wrote:
No, he is absolutely right.  The Bible states the dimensions of the Ark and archeological evidence can show how ships were built back then.....

I'm sure both statements are true. 1. The Bible does state the dimensions of the Ark & 2. Archeological evidence does show how ships were build back then.

I’m not going to argue about each of these facts but unfortunately they rather contradict each other quite a lot.

1. The length of the Ark is stated as being 300 cubits long. During history the length of a cubit has changed significantly but let us suppose that they used the natural cubit which equals 45 cm or 18 inches or 1.5 feet. That gives us a length of 450 feet or 135 meters (other cubits are longer so that would only increase the size of the Ark even more). This size isn’t exaggerated considering the fact that all land animals, including the now extinct ones (like dinosaurs!), would have to be taken onboard the Ark. 450 feet is even a little on the small side then.

2. Archeological evidence about how ships were build back then has been found but is rather scarce which is understandable since the flood is supposed to have happened between 3402 and 2309 B.C. The evidence found does however not show that ships with the size of the Ark were ever built.

Even to this date it just isn’t possible to construct a practical and seaworthy wooden ship with a length of more then 350 feet or 107 meters (even then iron reinforcements and pumps to counter continuous leaking are necessary). The argument that Noah used technology that is unknown to mankind right now is off course a very simple explanation probably made up by people who just don’t have a satisfying answer.

Maybe we should accept that the story about Noah and the Ark is just a myth and nothing more. After all, the whole purpose of the flood was to wipe the wicked people from the face off the earth; did it work? The next flood, if it ever comes, surely is centuries to late….

 

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:09 AM

Heck, we don't need a flood. We have global warming.  Of course, that is going to increase the sea level, and alter the air currents, so we will also have....flooding.

   Better get started on my 1/1 scale Ark!  This time, though, I'm only going to take animals that I like, and lots of hot chicks.

 

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Posted by usmc1371 on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:14 AM

bryan01,

I was not saying the the Ark was fact (all though I believe it is), I was stating that an accurate model could be made with information that scholars have.  Scholars can tell from the Bible and archeological information how the Ark was constructed and what it would have looked like. 

The arguments as to weither the Ark existed or not have been going on for a long time.  And the arguement will continue as long as there are unbelievers. Thats a choice the individual needs to make.

By the way, does anyone argue over the dimensions of a model of the Starship Enterprise?

Jesse 

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Posted by MJH on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:43 AM
Well, we already have one mythical ship model in kit form, the Trumpeter Zheng He, so why not another?  It has been proved that, even if built, the Ark could never have supported itself on water, but that's not an obstacle - no doubt the Starship Enterprise is entirely impractical as well as being fictional.

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 9:19 AM
 usmc1371 wrote:

By the way, does anyone argue over the dimensions of a model of the Starship Enterprise?

Jesse 

 

     Oh my...you should visit any of the scifi modeling sites...people are verbally flayed alive for daring to use the wrong aztec pattern on the Enterprise !  Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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Posted by mfsob on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 10:24 AM

"verbally flayed alive" ... how did we get onto the subject of divorce court? Evil [}:)]

Seriously, though, I'm glad to see some new and different ship kits coming out, but for that price tag, I'll have to pass.

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:08 PM
There's not enough information on the structural details of Noah's Ark to verify one way or other whether it could have supported itself on water.
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Posted by Amanda Bothe on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:41 PM
Hi Everyone,

Just a reminder - This thread is lending itself to a potentially heated religion discussion, which we strongly discourage in our forum guidelines. Let's be careful.

For the record .... I was kinda hoping the kit came with some animals. That would've been a fun project. Just think of all the new painting techniques you'd get to try!

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Posted by cthulhu77 on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 5:41 PM

  Yeah, I was thinking how fun it would be to "have" to go to Farrell's and buy the Zoo a couple of times, just so I could get enough little plastic animals!

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Posted by usmc1371 on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:40 PM

Think of the diorama possibilities:

1. Animals loading in the Ark

2. The Ark afloat

3. Or my favorite, the Ark settling on Mt Ararat

Speaking of a 1:1 scale model, one is being built in my home state: http://www.newsline.umd.edu/etcetera/noahsark/noahpage1.htm

http://www.godsark.org/html/the_construction.html

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Posted by death on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 10:36 PM
I really think some of you are taking this way too seriously!! Besides, the ark wasn't grey and fitting guns probably would have defeated the purpose!
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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:03 AM

I was personally rather happy to see that everyone involved in this discussion, regardless of personal views, was doing quite well at maintaining themselves and keeping it "intellectual" as opposed to emotionally charged.

But, to keep in with our host's words...

Does anyone remember way back ages ago when Arco gas stations had the Noah's Ark freebees for every tank fill?  When buying gas you would receive a pair of animals... and if you wanted you could buy the ark to go with them.  Was the highlight and fun of going to the gas station when I was a kid!  Like the toy surprise in the cereal box!

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Posted by sumpter250 on Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:21 AM

No, you can't !...Yes, I can !....NO ! you can't....I will....Nmmphg,mnphgh......Heh Heh

The last time I built an Arc, I used fourteen thousand volts ! It didn't last long, but it was spectacular !

Oh, Ar K.......(yes, I did)

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Posted by Fish-Head Aric on Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:10 AM
 sumpter250 wrote:

No, you can't !...Yes, I can !....NO ! you can't....I will....Nmmphg,mnphgh......Heh Heh

The last time I built an Arc, I used fourteen thousand volts ! It didn't last long, but it was spectacular !

Oh, Ar K.......(yes, I did)

I had to do a double-take on that...

"The last time I built an Aric" ???? 

heheh... and of course, "The last time I built an Arik" comes to mind as well.  My name has always been spelled "Aric," and have at times used the spelling "Arik" online for the hal-i-but.... (dunno if anyone ever heard that joke, but used it anyway...)

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Posted by deattilio on Saturday, August 5, 2006 1:40 AM

   I dispute the manufacturer! I want to see the reference blue prints and measurements.      KIDDING

   I watch and read a little of everything, although they claim there are written measurements of the original Ark, there is no reference to the standard of those scales of measurements (i.e. 1 foot is the length of the current reigning kings foot) in comparison to todays standardized metric and standard systems.

    Plus, if manufacturers in this day and age still muck up the dimensions in model form (length, width, yadda yadda) on items produced merely decades ago, you know something from a couple thousand years ago might be a tad bit off.

   A smaller price tag be more inviting, could even do a time line diorama, 1-construction/loading critters, 2-floating, 3-atop the mountain (or possibly the crater at the base, too much History, Discovery, and The Learning Channels maybe).

 

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Posted by BijouBob8mm on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 3:05 PM

Coming to the party VERY late, I know!  I recently stumbled across the Minicraft Models "Noah's Ark" kit on a bargain shelf full of clearance items.  I forget the exact price I got on it, but it was under $50.

Surprised there weren't any comments here about the model after it came out (was curious to see/hear from others who had already taken a crack at the kit), but had to smile at the posts speculating on what the it would be/should be, as the final model seems to reflect a lot of what was wished for here.  It's 18" long (so not quite the 2' that one post hoped for), it does have an interior, and does come with animals.  I didn't realize, until after I got the kit, that it was out of production.  (The store also had a regular priced copy of the kit that was over in their model aisle...no idea what was going on with that.)

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