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Why do you use Lacquer paints or Acrylics

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Why do you use Lacquer paints or Acrylics
Posted by Jsizemo on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 7:05 AM

So having come back to the hobby and using my first air brush a few months back I have not used anything but acrylics (model air, Tamyia, and mostly Ammo by Mig), so I want to get folks opinion on using lacquers vs acrylics, why do you use one over the other.  I have not used/or tried any lacquers and wondering if I should.  

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:04 AM

For me it boils down to color availability,overall availability,and ease if use.Some if the newer acrylics have a steep learning curve.

That being said,I basically use regular Tamiya thinned with lacquer thinner,almost foolproof,the AK-Real line is like Tamiya with more variety in colors,I also thin it with Lacquer thinner,and I use Vallejo Model Air which surprisingly I have been able to unlock with no difficulty using their thinner and flow improver.I have also used Mission Model acrylic with their own thinner,not bad.

When something new comes out,I don't go Outland replace the whole line that I have,but I will experiment with something new if I don't already have the color needed.

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:16 AM

All you can do is try lacquer and see if you like it. If you do try it then make sure your airbrush is really clean of any acrylic residue because trhe lacquer will loosen that.

The plus for lacquer is super easy airbrush clean up. Lacquer thinner literally melts lacquer paint and dried residue. Also very strong adhesion, thinner coats will cover well. Most will thin to even 2x their volume with thinner and spray very well. And several brands have an extensive array of colors available. Finally they air dry rapidly. Lacquer makes for a durable hard coat finish.

The down side is stink, most smell obnoxious thus why many switch to acrylics.Of the acrylics you mention the Tamiya, especially if thinned with lacquer thinner sprays most like lacquer. But there is nothing wrong with any of the paints you currently use when put down over a good primer coat..

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 8:41 AM

I am almost exclusively using lacquers now.  They have been the most trouble-free and are the most reliable in a high (5,800' above sea level) and dry (Average humidity less than 30%) climate.  Smell isn't much of a problem for me with the way I airbrush with low pressure, low volume, and working close-in to the pieces being painted.  As OMG already said, lacquers also have the best adhesion and the best durability.  The only time I use acrylics is when there is no other choice for a color I need.  Other than that, they're not worth the drawbacks.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by Jsizemo on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 9:18 AM

Which lacquers are you using now?

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 10:41 AM

I'm using pretty much all MRP lacquers.  Great color selection for military aircraft, and the color accuracy is as good as the old Model Master Enamels were.  Their line of airbrush ready lacquers require no thinning.  They're pricey, but they pay for themselves just in the lack of BS you have to deal with when using them.

"You can have my illegal fireworks when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers...which are...over there somewhere."

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 1:35 PM

Jsizemo

Which lacquers are you using now?

 

Lacquer thinner with Tamiya acrylics,the best of both worlds.

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 2:39 PM

Tojo72

Lacquer thinner with Tamiya acrylics,the best of both worlds.

 

 
          YES!

On the kitchen counter somewhere in North Carolina

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 3:00 PM

And I've used various lacquers over the years, right now I'm using the Tamiya LP series in the little glass bottles. I use that because my local hobby store began stocking it. But I thin it with Mr Leveling thinner. I'm very used to thinning lacquers and enamels and now alcrylics. I use a bit of everything, even craft paints.

Soon I'll be painting a pink Cadillac for someone else. I'll either mix the color from enamel and shoot straight up to the finish or mix it from a combo of craft paint and artist acrylic as the base color coat then clear lacquer it. Artist acrylic is quite durable, the craft paint is just the tinting color to get from white to light pink.

Now lacquer air drying is rapid and enamel is not but to that end I use a paint dryer ( food dehydrator) so it levels the playing field a bit closer..

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Posted by patrick206 on Wednesday, June 8, 2022 5:47 PM

The only lacquer I've used is Alclad, I have a positive airflow spraybooth that exhausts air to the outside, so the smell and fumes are a non issue for me. I've used Model Air, but for years I've been exclusively using Tamiya acrylics.

Very simple and trouble free, dependably good results for the painting I do. I can thin it with lacquer thinner, alcohol or leveling thinner, all work very well.

Cleaning the airbrush is just a cinch, lacquer thinner is aggressive enough to immediately mostly dissolve it, with minor brushing to completely remove all traces. I don't demand as much of paint finishes as others may, so for them maybe lacquer does offer better results.

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Posted by missileman2000 on Thursday, June 9, 2022 9:27 AM

I ordinarily use enamels because I frequently need a good glossy finish on a model, and have a hard time getting a good gloss on acrlyic without an overcoat.  To me, overcoats are too glossy, a wet coat show car finish which is not really appropriate for most vehicles in daily service.  I also use lacquer ocasionally when I need a color that is easily available in lacquers.

 

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