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Truth in advertising
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:55 PM

I recently bought a kit, when it arrived it was a "snap tite" model, which I don't like and would never have ordered.  The seller did not indicate it as such.  I will make the best of it, and produce a decent model in the conventional way.  But I think that details like this should be provided on the seller's site.  I would never buy a "snap tite" kit, knowingly.

 

 

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Posted by jeffpez on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 3:06 PM

Agreed. Have you contacted the seller and if so what was the response? From what little I know the sellers site only says what the manufacturer supplies them to say so it may not be his fault. Where did you buy it from?

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:16 PM

What did you buy and where did you buy it from?  Although I do agree that sellers should be more consciencious about providing important details like that, I also typically don't buy a model without having done a little bit of research on it to find out if its worth buying or not.  The 1/72 scale Bandai Perfect Grade Millennium Falcon that I have is a snap-tite model, which I was skeptical about, but the research I did on it helped to lay those misgivings to rest.  So far, I haven't been disappointed by it because everything fits together so well and its engineered to hide all of the seams.  Come to think of it, I don't think the place I bought it had anything in the decription about it being snap-tite.  I found that out through the research I did on it before making the decision to buy it.  You may end up being pleasantly surprised by what you bought.  One of the things that made me glad the Millennium Falcon is snap-tite is that I was able to take things apart after discovering I had missed a part of an assembly sequence...and that was even after the paint and decals had gone on that subassembly.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 5:51 PM

Well, this is a decent kit anyway- the new Star Trek Voyager, from Round 2 Polar lights.  I don't want to name the vendor, as I do not feel I was scammed, and they are a reputable source for me.  I think they just didn't have complete info for their listing on line.  

It's a nice kit, but way too simple from what I was expecting.  It's ok, I'm having fun with it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 18, 2021 6:12 PM

Cadet Chuck

Well, this is a decent kit anyway- the new Star Trek Voyager, from Round 2 Polar lights.  I don't want to name the vendor, as I do not feel I was scammed, and they are a reputable source for me.  I think they just didn't have complete info for their listing on line.  

It's a nice kit, but way too simple from what I was expecting.  It's ok, I'm having fun with it.

 

Did you do any research on the kit beforehand? Perhaps reading a review or two? 
But then again, on such a niche subject, you'll be lucky to get one kit of the subject in injection plastic.

 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, August 19, 2021 12:32 AM

Cadet Chuck

Well, this is a decent kit anyway- the new Star Trek Voyager, from Round 2 Polar lights.  I don't want to name the vendor, as I do not feel I was scammed, and they are a reputable source for me.  I think they just didn't have complete info for their listing on line.  

It's a nice kit, but way too simple from what I was expecting.  It's ok, I'm having fun with it.

 

Round 2 Polar Lights have been reboxing old Star Trek kits. Monogram did two versions of the Voyager; the first was a larger glue together kit that Revell of Germany also released in Europe with a more extensive decal sheet and I think a shuttle bay with clear bay doors. This limited edition kit was the one to get.

The second version was a smaller kit that was part of a 3-ship set. It included the Voyager, the Kazon raider, and the Maquis ship. This set was snap together and aimed at younger builders.

Round 2 has been splitting up the smaller Star Trek 3-ship sets that were snap together and boxing them separately. There was also an AMT Enterprise 3-ship set of the -B, -C and -E that was broken up and the snap together TOS, -A, -D set as well.

Bottom line, it isn't very hard to research which kit is which, especially the Voyager. There were just two of them. One was huge, like 1/600 and the other was much smaller, like 1/1500.

The entire Monogram Voyager line was just a handful of kits that included the big Voyager, big Maquis ship, big Kazon ship, Kazon torpedo and the smaller 3-ship set. Add the limited edition Voyager and it's just six kits.

The Monogram kits were vastly superior to the AMT/Ertl Star Trek kits.

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Posted by MJames70 on Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:21 AM

Rob Gronovius

 

 
Cadet Chuck

Well, this is a decent kit anyway- the new Star Trek Voyager, from Round 2 Polar lights.  I don't want to name the vendor, as I do not feel I was scammed, and they are a reputable source for me.  I think they just didn't have complete info for their listing on line.  

It's a nice kit, but way too simple from what I was expecting.  It's ok, I'm having fun with it.

 

 

 

Round 2 Polar Lights have been reboxing old Star Trek kits. Monogram did two versions of the Voyager; the first was a larger glue together kit that Revell of Germany also released in Europe with a more extensive decal sheet and I think a shuttle bay with clear bay doors. This limited edition kit was the one to get.

 

The second version was a smaller kit that was part of a 3-ship set. It included the Voyager, the Kazon raider, and the Maquis ship. This set was snap together and aimed at younger builders.

Round 2 has been splitting up the smaller Star Trek 3-ship sets that were snap together and boxing them separately. There was also an AMT Enterprise 3-ship set of the -B, -C and -E that was broken up and the snap together TOS, -A, -D set as well.

Bottom line, it isn't very hard to research which kit is which, especially the Voyager. There were just two of them. One was huge, like 1/600 and the other was much smaller, like 1/1500.

The entire Monogram Voyager line was just a handful of kits that included the big Voyager, big Maquis ship, big Kazon ship, Kazon torpedo and the smaller 3-ship set. Add the limited edition Voyager and it's just six kits.

The Monogram kits were vastly superior to the AMT/Ertl Star Trek kits.

 

Rob, you may not be aware, but the kit being referred to is actually a totally new 1/1000 Voyager produced by Round2 under the Polar Lights branding. This kit was just released this year, and has nothing to do with the older kits from Monogram or AMT. It was done in 1/1000 to fit in with the other releases they have done in that scale. 

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Thursday, August 19, 2021 6:53 AM

That's right, this is a brand new kit with new tooling just released this year.  I bought this one without doing research, because of the good experience I had with two of their other new kits in 1/1000 scale.

It's well engineered and nicely made.  I'm happy with it.  Big Smile

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Posted by VintageRPM on Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:50 AM
Did you not look at the picture of the kit box? (Was there a picture?) It indicates twice on the box top that it is a snap kit.
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Posted by rocketman2000 on Thursday, August 19, 2021 8:57 AM

I have been modeling for 75 years.  I will still build a snaptite if it is a good kit and a subject I want.  Some of them can be built up as nice models.  There was a series of Indy car kits- I believe they were revell/monogram but not sure.  If I put one out among my glued car kits I defy you to pick out which is snaptite.  I still have a couple of snaptite NASCAR kits in my stash that are in queue for this winter build.

 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, August 19, 2021 9:01 AM

VintageRPM
Did you not look at the picture of the kit box? (Was there a picture?) It indicates twice on the box top that it is a snap kit.
 

Bingo!

 

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Posted by MJames70 on Thursday, August 19, 2021 11:06 AM

rocketman2000

I have been modeling for 75 years.  I will still build a snaptite if it is a good kit and a subject I want.  Some of them can be built up as nice models.  There was a series of Indy car kits- I believe they were revell/monogram but not sure.  If I put one out among my glued car kits I defy you to pick out which is snaptite.  I still have a couple of snaptite NASCAR kits in my stash that are in queue for this winter build.

 

 

The kits you're thinking of were probably the Tamiya 'Snap-Loc' kits. There were two - Michael Andretti's KMart car in a road course configuration with large wings, and the other was Bobby Rahal's Duracell car in a small wing speedway setup. Those were the only two kits that were made. Not long after came the disastrous CART-IRL split in American open wheel racing I don't think it has recovered from, even 25 years later. Tamiya has never reissued these kits since; probably licensing issues. 

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Friday, August 20, 2021 7:37 AM

MJames70

 

 
rocketman2000

I have been modeling for 75 years.  I will still build a snaptite if it is a good kit and a subject I want.  Some of them can be built up as nice models.  There was a series of Indy car kits- I believe they were revell/monogram but not sure.  If I put one out among my glued car kits I defy you to pick out which is snaptite.  I still have a couple of snaptite NASCAR kits in my stash that are in queue for this winter build.

 

 

 

 

The kits you're thinking of were probably the Tamiya 'Snap-Loc' kits. There were two - Michael Andretti's KMart car in a road course configuration with large wings, and the other was Bobby Rahal's Duracell car in a small wing speedway setup. Those were the only two kits that were made. Not long after came the disastrous CART-IRL split in American open wheel racing I don't think it has recovered from, even 25 years later. Tamiya has never reissued these kits since; probably licensing issues. 

 

Yes!  Those were the ones.  I built the Andretti car.  I would love to pick up the Rahal kit.  Guess I should visit eBay.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, August 21, 2021 9:12 PM

MJames70

Rob, you may not be aware, but the kit being referred to is actually a totally new 1/1000 Voyager produced by Round2 under the Polar Lights branding. This kit was just released this year, and has nothing to do with the older kits from Monogram or AMT. It was done in 1/1000 to fit in with the other releases they have done in that scale. 

 

That's my mistake, but the point remains the same; there aren't a whole lot of USS Voyager model kits to research before spending your hard earned money.

People will drive 5 miles out of their way to say 5¢ a gallon of gas, a whole buck for a complete fill up, but won't take 5 minutes to look up a specific kit online to see what they're getting.

There are probably reviews on virtually every mainstream kit available. Starship Modeler is devoted to science fiction modeling.

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