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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 21, 2021 3:44 PM

ikar01

In that case, as teh saying goes, friendly fire isn't.

 

or as in Murphy's Laws of War, "Friendly Fire has the right of way", and "the only thing more accurate than incoming fire, is incoming friendly fire"

 

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, October 21, 2021 2:33 PM

In that case, as teh saying goes, friendly fire isn't.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 21, 2021 2:06 PM

I believe he caught a burst from a Bren gun.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:36 PM

Yup, its Air Observation Pilot, and he did have a finger amputated.  One of the rounds hit him in the chest, but it was stopped by the metal cigarette case he had in his pocket.  So, I guess sometimes being a smoker can save your life.  I guess it was a nervous Canadian sentry that shot him.  Scotty himself took out two snipers during the invasion.  The guy was kind of a certified bad-a**.

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:19 PM

stikpusher

Artillery isn't too far removed from the Infantry... just a few hundred yards or so to the rear depending upon the gun type Wink Still combat arms. Close enough for government work to be a ground pounder in my book.

I hadn't heard of his flying, only his D-Day/Normandy experiences. Just curious, but what is an "AOP"? 

I hadn't heard about the blue on blue part of his wounding. I served with a guy who had a similar tale. Was a Ranger in Panama and got shot by his platoon leader in the rump after they seized one of the airfields there and cleared their weapons. Always fun to tease him about that one. Combat jump wings, CIB, and a bullet in the buttocks... 

 
In this context, I believe it's "air observation pilot".  As for his wounds, I remember reading that he had a finger amputated as a result, and when he became an actor, he tried his best to conceal it.

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Posted by Back to the bench on Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:16 PM

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ikar01

Gravity plating, given to them by the Vulcans.

 

 

More importantly, did the Vulcans see his warp signature? If not, they'll never give us the gravity plating in this time line.

 

 

 

I dunno, going by Enterprise the Vulcans were kinda jerks. 

I'd rather humanity figure things out on our own. Or be discovered by the Andorians or Tellerites. 

 

Though I suppose Vulcans are better than Romulans, Klingons, or Cardassians... 

 

 

It's kinda funny I had a bit of a freudian slip and read that last part as...

Though I suppose Vulcans are better than Romulans, Klingons, or KARDASHIANS... 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:11 PM

Artillery isn't too far removed from the Infantry... just a few hundred yards or so to the rear depending upon the gun type Wink Still combat arms. Close enough for government work to be a ground pounder in my book.

I hadn't heard of his flying, only his D-Day/Normandy experiences. Just curious, but what is an "AOP"? 

I hadn't heard about the blue on blue part of his wounding. I served with a guy who had a similar tale. Was a Ranger in Panama and got shot by his platoon leader in the rump after they seized one of the airfields there and cleared their weapons. Always fun to tease him about that one. Combat jump wings, CIB, and a bullet in the buttocks... 

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:45 AM

stikpusher

 

 
ikar01
On top of that, James Doohan was Canadian too, flying Tigermoth aircraft during the war.

 

My understanding is that he was a ground pounder who was wounded in Normandy not too long after landing at Juno Beach on D-Day.

 

He wasn't a ground pounder, he was an artillery officer who's regiment was part of an Inf Div. He later became an AOP.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:06 AM

James Doohan was a ground pounder first, landing at Juno Beach, and was shot 6 times in a blue on blue incident.  As a pilot, he was still an artillery officer, which many AOPs were at that time.

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Posted by ikar01 on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:24 PM

At a convention he told us he was a pilot but it is possible that what youi heard was true too, people moved all over the place as needed, some getting ground assignments, or partial ground assignments.

My Father started in the Air Corps. as a photographer, went into flying C-47s as a NCO and eventually ended up in the OSS before the invasion and stayed there until the end of the war.

I knew a F-15 pilot who was assigned to be a ground FAC during the Grenada invasion.  He wasn't happy about it  but he went.

I knew a C-130 loadmaster at Little Rock who knew a unbeliveable amount about almost any military aircraft that they wanted him in Intel in Europe.  Ecentually they removed his status and he was transferred to Intel in Europe.  I come back from a TDY for a traffic accident investigation school and he's gone.

That's the military. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:27 PM

ikar01
On top of that, James Doohan was Canadian too, flying Tigermoth aircraft during the war.

My understanding is that he was a ground pounder who was wounded in Normandy not too long after landing at Juno Beach on D-Day.

 

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Posted by JoeSMG on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 9:09 PM

ikar01

Did you really have to dig up that old Shatner album?  He never was really known for singing.

 

 
Granted Shatner is no Bono but this youTube video of him covering "Common People" with Joe Jackson is Epic.

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Posted by ikar01 on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 8:23 PM

It's possible, I know he was close to NASA and had visited the Space Center before, and I had read that when Star Trek was on the center would take a brake if possible and watch the show.

I used to have a photo of him visiting the launch facility building back then.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:54 PM

And wasn't Roddenberry's ashes shot into space too??? 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:53 PM

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ikar01

Gravity plating, given to them by the Vulcans.

 

 

More importantly, did the Vulcans see his warp signature? If not, they'll never give us the gravity plating in this time line.

 

I dunno, going by Enterprise the Vulcans were kinda jerks. 

I'd rather humanity figure things out on our own. Or be discovered by the Andorians or Tellerites. 

 

Though I suppose Vulcans are better than Romulans, Klingons, or Cardassians... 

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Posted by ikar01 on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:07 PM

On top of that, James Doohan was Canadian too, flying Tigermoth aircraft during the war.

I still think all the Federation ship's captains should go up.  They can start with Scott Bakula not that he isn't working in New Orleans anymore, and go to each one in turn.

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:41 PM

ikar01

Sulo isn't happy about this whole thing.  Evidently some of the cast had bad feelings about Shatner during the show.

Sort of reminds you of the convention scenes of Galaxy Quest in a way. 

Actually Galaxy Quest was based on Star Trek tropes, including the animosity of the supporting cast members.

If James Doohan's ashes went into space, he indeed beat Shatner, as the Shat only did a suborbital hop.  He should have signed on to Space X for the real orbital deal.  But I guess Elon Musk has been branded a Romulan or something.

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 12:24 PM

  I was also thinking along the lines of gravity manipulation, warp drive is a bubble of time and space that is push/ pulled thru space by space and gravity itself....if they can do that sticking to the floor shouldn' t be a problemPropeller

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:40 AM

ikar01

Gravity plating, given to them by the Vulcans.

More importantly, did the Vulcans see his warp signature? If not, they'll never give us the gravity plating in this time line.

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:28 PM

Gravity plating, given to them by the Vulcans.

Actually Scotty made it before Kirk, has ashes were sent up with others a few years ago.

Sulo isn't happy about this whole thing.  Evidently some of the cast had bad feelings about Shatner during the show.

Sort of reminds you of the convention scenes of Galaxy Quest in a way.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:18 PM

I have a question regarding the Enterprise. How did they generate gravity in the starship?

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Real G on Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:09 PM

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...All kidding aside, it is remarkable that non-astronauts can make trips to space now... 

 

 

Only the timing.  I think it was and is inevitable, that there will be commercial, civilian space travel.  It's a matter of time, given our technological advances over the past hundred years, and their trajectories into the future.  There are stumbling blocks, but they're not in the fields of technology that go into blasting off from a gravity well.  They're more features of fields like our nature, and its impact on international politics-the old story of "If we don't destroy ourselves, first..."  

Flight came about the same way.  At the turn of the last century, it became more and more likely that someone would work it out.  The technological prerequisites were present, and it just took someone to piece them together, a la James Burke's "Connections" or "The Day the Universe Changed".

 

True that.  Looking back at the earliest attempts to pressurize aircraft for high altitude flight, the solutions almost looked like they were trying to go to space.  Now we regularly cruise at 35,000+ feet and just complain about the in-flight movie selection.

Personally, sub-orbital hops don't do it for me, unless it touches down somewhere else, like Japan!

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:02 PM

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He did'nt go where no man has gone beforeStick out tongue

 

 

That made me laugh. Big Smile

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, October 14, 2021 3:02 PM

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Posted by seastallion53 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:33 PM

He did'nt go where no man has gone beforeStick out tongue

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:17 PM

He became very emotional when he described how he felt when the capsule left the atmosphere and entered the blackness of space. He spoke about how he felt when he looked down toward the Earth and saw how thin the atmosphere was. He said that traveling into space is the only way to truly appreciate how unique and wonderful the earth is.  

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:16 PM

ikar01

Did you really have to dig up that old Shatner album?  He never was really known for singing.  Nimoy did better, he had two albums and several TV appearances. most before Bill.

Leonard Nimoy singing - Ballad of Bilbo Baggins - Bing video

 
I heard that on Dr Demento's show, back in the day.  As for Shatner singing "Rocket Man", I remember seeing that performance during a science fiction awards show in the late 70s.  I remember that it was broadcast over PBS.  I laughed myself silly when I saw it, and it hasn't lost anything in the intervening years.

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:33 PM

Did you really have to dig up that old Shatner album?  He never was really known for singing.  Nimoy did better, he had two albums and several TV appearances. most before Bill.

Leonard Nimoy singing - Ballad of Bilbo Baggins - Bing video

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:29 AM

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But did he say "engage"? Smile

 

 

 

Wrong captain! Smile

 

Yeah, that's the FRENCH captain with the ENGLISH accent...

 

(Okay, so The Shat is Canadian playing an American but I don't really notice.)

 

Frank: Thanks, will give it a look. I glanced at my favorite Trek channels on YouTube and I didn't see anything about it yesterday. Didn't have the time to search further.

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