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80 years ago
Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:49 AM

Today marks 80 years of the attack on Pearl Harbor by Imperial Japan. Let us remember those that stayed forever young that day in defense of our country.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 8:07 AM

Amen.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 9:08 AM

NCIS:Hawaii had an episode last night about something that happened during the attack.

I'm old enough to have heard the news broadcast of the event.  Only three years old, but there were relatives over, and I could tell by their conversation that this was a pretty important event.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:10 PM

As a kid in the late '60's, I spent most afternoons after school fishing with a man whose wife didn't want him out alone in case something happened.

It was several months before he mentioned he had been in the gunnery department in the USS Maryland on Dec 7, 1941.  As she was moored inboard, minimal damage occured.

Like most WWII vets, he never opened up about any of his wartime experience, a constant theme of most veterans.

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Posted by cbaltrin on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:08 PM

Amen Brother

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:07 PM

What really gets to me, is that the majority of school kids today can't tell you the date, who attacked, or even where it's located.  Most probably couldn't tell you what the Arizona Memorial is, or what ship it spans and honors

 

Has been said many times, those that forget history are doomed to repeat it. Truer words than most think.  Just look at the last 20 years and 50 years ago, and the lives lost and lives forever changed.

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Posted by seastallion53 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:23 PM

As a kid with a paper route i had a customer who was a Lt. on board the USS Pennsylvania as a turret officer during the attack.He showed me his uniforms and all of the photos he had of that day.I was very impressed.

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 5:31 PM

I agree 100% with what you said.  I spent 30 + years teaching mainly 4th & 5th grades in public schools and every year either on or near December 7th I spent an entire social studies lesson about the importance of the attack on Pearl Harbor.  This got me in trouble with many of my administrators over the years because" it wasn't in our grade's curriculum."  I often used the excuse of a"teachable moment" and of the importance of the event which triggered a huge chain of events.  I also tried to bring models into my classroom whenever possible, lessons on reading & following directions, problem solving,reading reference books,scale, and the benefits of a life-long hobby.  This also got me in hot water with my administrators.  My goal was to make learning fun and hopefully get at least one student to try the hobby.

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 6:28 PM

Yes, administrators often have issues with change. They say you need to stick to the curriculum and that there isn't enough 'teaching time' for other stuff. But that other stuff is frequently the material that keeps interested in learning.

A while back, I was part of an online Pearl Harbor forum. When the movie 'Pearl Harbor' came out, we were bombarded with questions. You would not believe the number of high school aged students who'd never even heard of the attack.

"Why do I do this? Because the money's good, the scenery changes and they let me use explosives, okay?"

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 6:52 PM

[quote user="HooYah Deep Sea. You would not believe the number of high school aged students who'd never even heard of the attack.

 

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That's who I was primarily referring to.

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Posted by fox on Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:45 PM

About 2 years ago, the grandkids came over for one of our usual Sunday dinners. The kids (1 in HS and the other in College) came up to the loft to see what grandpop was working on. They know that there is usually a story behind the model I'm working on. It so happened that I was cleaning up an old R/C PT-109 that had been sitting on top of the curio cabinet gathering lots of dust. They listened as I told them about JFK and the 109. They didn't know who he was and nothing about the 109. I told them what little I knew about Jack and his crew and Jack later on becoming President. The next time they came over, the youngest one said he asked his history teacher a couple of questions about JFK and the 109 and he couldn't answer some of the questions and got in an argument about the destroyer colliding with the 109. He told the teacher that he was wrong because his grandfather built a big model of the 109 and knows everything about it and JFK. Hope I never run into that teacher.Wink If that isn't history, I don't know what is.

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Posted by ikar01 on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 12:36 AM

My Father was due to leave the Air Corps on the 8th but was told to go find his aircraft because he might need it real soon.

Once his squadron deployed, he spent his WWII time in Libiya, England and all through Europe, eventually with the OSS.  He was the main reason and influence I joined the Air Force when I got drafted right out of high school.

Growing up he would stay out of the living room if I had on shows like combat, gallent men, hogan's heroes, or just about anything about the war.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 6:26 AM

My first job out of High School in 1973 was selling shoes at a large dept. store. 

My manager was a real nice guy with a great personality. He had been a P38 recon pilot in the Pacific and had many interesting stories to tell. The man survived the war not being wounded or shot down but checked out in the store stock room from a heart attack shortly after I left in 1976. There was another shoe salesman on another area of the store that had been a BAR gunner in the Pacific. He too had lots of war stories and pictures to show. 

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 7:37 AM

HooYah Deep Sea

Yes, administrators often have issues with change. They say you need to stick to the curriculum and that there isn't enough 'teaching time' for other stuff. But that other stuff is frequently the material that keeps interested in learning.

....

Yet, when I was in school we learned about the attack on Fort Sumpter.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by armornut on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 10:45 AM

   As a combat vet myself it amazes me to this day, those men who went afar in service of our country, came home and resumed lives. Very thankful for all the assistance we vets get today but I can't help but think sometimes I don't deserve it. Hats off to all. I really hope we NEVER forget the history and also where it has brought us.

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 11:42 AM

And that is one of the main reasons why we model stuff like this:

While we all (FSM modelers) mostly remember the day or the history around it, may this day urge others to take a moment to learn and honor it. That was a generation of men and women with unmeasurable patriotism as well as deducation and resolve in which I fear this country may never see again. 

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Posted by goldhammer88 on Wednesday, December 8, 2021 12:14 PM

Hopefully due to the sacrifices of those both in and out of uniform, we shall never have to see again.  If it does, I believe we would do so again.

A small example would be the country on 9/11.

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Posted by lurch on Friday, December 24, 2021 5:05 AM

Alot of vets dont want to talk about the conflicks of wars they were in for many reasons. They will also avoid certain things that will remind them of there time during a conflict again for many reasons. Please respect that. I know because I am one of those vets. It took me many years to speak of certain things or see or watch things. I am lucky because I had a fantstic support group behind me. Some things may have happened many years ago but still effect me today. For example I will never sleep a full night for the rest of my life due to extreme nightmares and reliving certain experiances that I had acrually lived thru. The mental scares of was or conflicts have a life long effect that most people will never know.So if youknpw someone that has lived thru something like that please respect them and support them.In  time some things will come to light for you to understand but sometimes they never do.

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