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Amodel Ka-18 1/72 diorama !! the most (un)know chopper in the world (helo finished page 3)

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:27 AM

back on the ka-18 diorama:

after the black paint of terrain i give a light earth mix and after drybrush and mix before enamels dry with lots of mixed light brown , white, light yellow and so on. Then put with white glue some grass and stone.

Working with the kamov without rotors (don't glue it again) to check his space in the scene. some advice tips to improve the diorama? in mind to put some raw fence and some tall grass

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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:07 PM

CPD730

That little bird turned out great, look forward to the finished diorama!

thanx CPD730 i hope to working on it soon. 

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Posted by CPD730 on Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:14 PM

That little bird turned out great, look forward to the finished diorama!

"I was quit when I came in here, I'm twice as quit now." Deckard
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Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:44 AM

many thanx Stage_Left Bow Down

 

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Posted by Stage_Left on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:52 PM

VERY NICE job on the little Kamov, bsyamatoYes

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:10 PM

yes, preiser have for sure a box, and lots of set for luftwaffe, usaf, etc, and lots of unfighting poses soldiers in 1/72. The good things about preiser set is that are molded in hard plastic, easy to mod and gluing with normal tamiya glue . i'll get some link and post after

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:51 AM

Most people looking for civilians are probably building trains, that's the 1/87 scale right? I can't say that I've seen 1/72 civilians anywhere, I have a hard enough time finding good pilots & crew in that scale!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:16 AM

VanceCrozier

 

 bsyamato:

 

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( Whisper don't tell anyone, are in 1/87 

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The size & shape of the helicopter will probably distract from the sizes of your figures anyway!

Whistling yes is my hope, unfortunately don't get 1/72 civilians till now, preiser maded a good box but is hard to find on customers online

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:41 AM

bsyamato

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( Whisper don't tell anyone, are in 1/87 

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The size & shape of the helicopter will probably distract from the sizes of your figures anyway!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:37 AM

updates about the kamov:

heres the people chosen to fill the diorama

( Whisper don't tell anyone, are in 1/87 )

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and the copter can called finished!

i found some washing error after taken pictures (the helo is really little Surprise ) and the rotors are just resting on without glue, i'll glue after according to the diorama.

i hope you like it

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Posted by bsyamato on Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:46 PM

news on the giant kamov

adding door handles from metal wire (kit includes this pieces but..)

original cockpit steps

more scratches, the real steps are rounded on the ends  and not so thick:

after drilled hole i put metal wires with ca and bend with a clamp

step finished and other holes for litthe hooks near the front gears

results with others pieces added


painted all these details with first 140 as primer and exhaust with black

also i did the windshield wiper .

99,9% complete Hmm next pictures will be finished kit but left again the diorama Dead

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:45 PM

thanx vance Wink i waited one minute before to look where the copter falls and check damages, this time was not a tragedy

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:37 AM

There is no worse feeling than that moment you realize that a nearly-complete plastic model is hurtling towards the floor... Ick!

Still looks like you'll be able to recover from the fall. I really like this odd little helicopter!

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:22 AM

thanx Stage_Left Big Smile what is the life without humor?

Don't fear the final result, in all cases was a good study on short run kits, and will help me with the worse yak-28 kit.

Soon some update

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Posted by Stage_Left on Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:04 PM

Ugh.....sorry to see your Kamov had a mishap, bsyamato. No matter, though....with all the work you put in so far it's going to look fantastic when done!  Yes

I like your sense of humor- "performed a landing without a take-off."

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, August 9, 2011 6:51 PM

not finished again! but updates and misadventures of ka-18:

Rotors almost complete

glued gears and tail

.... the girl not finished the drink...

the tail protector maded by metal rods, i drilled holes with right angle

and the finished piece before last painting

now explain why in the above picture the tail is not on Angry

 

before:

..and after the copter hitting the under table :

Bang Head x5

during a detail painting session the copter performd a landing without a take-off , and going under..

fortunately no great damages occurred but was really hard to fix again the two left seats with closed fuselage,

This night glued the main whells but some gear imperfection blow out

left gear is taller than the other main gear , need to cut a part of it or extend the other, pictures/draws consulting is needed, plus the copter easy sitting on the tail Angry no add weight was reported on the instructions (the heatformed canopy i put on is the probably problem, have less weight than the original one), but probably the last pieces that need to glue on the forward will resolve the problem, at least i hope Tongue Tied

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:10 PM

latest pieces on the rotor: used again metal rods and sprue/plastic rods instead of kit pieces

the bottom command plate

and fixed with metal arms

top rotor bars and ..... lift hook (?) added

and final test fitting for the rotor

that's all for tonight, tomorrow hope to priming the rotor

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:27 PM

Vance i see the sprues of your kamov, seems correct, blades of two rotors are specular Yes

Thanx Stage Left , this kit give more problems as a first view 

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Posted by Stage_Left on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:42 AM

Nice job on those rotors! Yes

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:28 AM

Coming along very nicely - fixing the rotors looks like a small kit all by itself! I'll have to check my little Kamov kit to see if the rotor blades need correcting as well.

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:25 AM

Some update on the little kamov:

rotor was a big mess Tongue Tied

added control arms to the down rotor (the  pieces from the kit was too difficult to use)

checking the upper i notice that blades glues same as the down rotor... it's impossible on real thing !

The Kamov helicopters particularity is the two rotor turn in inverse direction, the from the up rotor must looks specular, but putting the up rotor in this way he flow the air up Whistling ... the helicopter will never fly in this situation. 

I resolved the mess with some cut to the base of blades , holed the pieces and fit metal rods inside

and now the rotor is in right position , also added the others control arms 

actual situation of rotor, all control arms glued , need only to add last pieces to the top and cut and fix lower control arms.

soon some update Propeller

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Posted by bsyamato on Sunday, July 3, 2011 5:36 AM

thanx Andrew, i'll try to finish it before two weeks.

 

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Posted by Andrew Magoo on Sunday, July 3, 2011 2:44 AM

This little bird is coming along nicely, I can't wait to see the finished bird. Set it next to something else in 1/72 scale for a reference. Looks very good. Magoo

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:14 PM

hope to see some wip from you Pavel Yes

updates

bad "beginner" mistake on the red... when covered the final gray i not covered all the fuselage , so the red looking really bad on first layer:

a new red layer (used 220 ferrari red humbrol Whistling ) almost resolved the mistake

i not lost  time to mask the fuselage, the line between the two colors will be covered (if all goes good) by the decorative decals.

the tail rudders almost finished (right now completed with the white the gap between the decals)

that's all for now

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:39 PM

Thanks a lot!

I don't have WIPs on those, that was before I joined the forum. Now for the double rotorhead - from what I remember the Zvezda helo (Ka-27) didn't pose too much trouble, I just replaced the kit-supplied styrene shaft with a metal one. Now the airfix kit is a lot weaker here - the rotorheads are heavily simplified and designed to be fixed together. Really awkward, if you do it as per kit instructions you get the two rotors to rotate as one assembly :((( I couldn't live with that, so I used two sets of airfix rotorheads (spares box!), lots of copper wire and styrene shavings and built new rotorheads you can see on the photo, rotating independently on a metal shaft. As I already wrote, getting at reference pics was tricky. Even more so in case of the dipping sonar mounted under the tail boom, which the kit omits alltogether. Hope it helps, good luck with your build. Remember, we're talking about Cadillacs among the soviet helos here Big Smile Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:34 PM

Really nice builds Pawel Yes

Have you posted a wip of these?

The more difficult on the ka-15 probably will be the double rotor, how was on this two kits?

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:33 AM

Howdy!

It's a little highjacking, but since the Ka-25 got into the conversation I wanted to share this pic:

1:72 Ka-25 by Paweł Mroczkowski

And there's also a very nice Ka-27 from Zvezda (thay also make a lot of variants)

1:72 Ka-27 by Paweł Mroczkowski

Both of them are very nice kits, with decent fit and not so much detail and were whole lot of fun to build. The problem with them babies is if you want to detail them further, reference is not easy to find, because, as with all soviet/russian stuff it's all still top secret.

Thanks for reading, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, June 17, 2011 11:43 AM

bsyamato

aargh!! i want one Stick out tongue

When i read one of first aircraft/helicopter encyclopedia the ka-25 was one of first russian copter that remains impressed in my mind.

Pieces seems not so bad but surely are easier to turn on high detail kamov!!

aargh! (said it yet?)

If i miss it ,let me know when you start the little bird Wink

Will certainly let you know when I start on it,

On the bench: Airfix 1/72 Wildcat; Airfix 1/72 Vampire T11; Airfix 1/72 Fouga Magister

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, June 17, 2011 11:20 AM

aargh!! i want one Stick out tongue

When i read one of first aircraft/helicopter encyclopedia the ka-25 was one of first russian copter that remains impressed in my mind.

Pieces seems not so bad but surely are easier to turn on high detail kamov!!

aargh! (said it yet?)

If i miss it ,let me know when you start the little bird Wink

 

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