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Vietnam Era JP-4 Fuel Tanker in 1/72 Scale - Finished

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Vietnam Era JP-4 Fuel Tanker in 1/72 Scale - Finished
Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, August 18, 2019 10:51 AM

Hi, All,
This will be a model of a Ford T-800 fuel tanker. This tanker was built in the mid to late 50s and widely used at air bases in Vietnam and Thailand during the 60s and 70s.
 
I'm using the chassis, cab seat, dashboard and wheels from the very nicely detailed Academy 1/72 U.S. M35 2.5 ton Cargo Truck kit shown below. Everything else will be scratch built.
 
Below are a couple of photos of my progress so far. The first photo shows the modified chassis. The chassis had to be extended and the drive train was changed to rear wheel drive only.
 
The second  photo shows the cab (as far as I've gotten it) and the fuel tank temporarily sitting on the chassis.
 
Cheers and thanks for looking!
Russ
 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 19, 2019 11:11 AM

Beautiful start on a tough cab to scratch, but I know your abilities.

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 19, 2019 5:21 PM

Hello Russ!

That sure is an ambitious project! Just the reference photos for something like that seem to be hard to find, not to mention any form of a kit. Say, what make and model is this truck? We're in the XXIst century now - maybe it would make sense to draw it in 3D so that it could be 3D printed? It could also be, that the cab is already available for 3D print, for example on Shapeways, just in different scale (1/64 is popular) - you could then ask its maker to rescale it for you to 1/72. I'd gladly check it out for you, just need to know what cab is required.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 19, 2019 5:50 PM

Took a quick look on Shapeways....Stoney Smith Designs has a 1/43 "C" cab for around $38.  Might be able to scale it down.  Says it has a slightly grainy feel so would take some sanding/filling to get smooth if he could downsize it.

Just searched 1/72 Ford C cab and it popped up.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 19, 2019 6:28 PM

goldhammer

Beautiful start on a tough cab to scratch, but I know your abilities.

 

Thanks, GH! Smile

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 19, 2019 6:39 PM

Pawel

Hello Russ!

That sure is an ambitious project! Just the reference photos for something like that seem to be hard to find, not to mention any form of a kit. Say, what make and model is this truck? We're in the XXIst century now - maybe it would make sense to draw it in 3D so that it could be 3D printed? It could also be, that the cab is already available for 3D print, for example on Shapeways, just in different scale (1/64 is popular) - you could then ask its maker to rescale it for you to 1/72. I'd gladly check it out for you, just need to know what cab is required.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

 

Thanks, Pawel. Good idea there, bud! My brain is still in XXth century mode lol. I got my measurements from what pictures I could find. As near as I can tell, the cab used with the tankers was the Ford C-600 series.

Cheers, and thanks again!

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, August 19, 2019 6:53 PM

goldhammer

Took a quick look on Shapeways....Stoney Smith Designs has a 1/43 "C" cab for around $38.  Might be able to scale it down.  Says it has a slightly grainy feel so would take some sanding/filling to get smooth if he could downsize it.

Just searched 1/72 Ford C cab and it popped up.

 

 

Thanks GH! Very interesting find. I wish I had known about that before I started this project.

However, looking at the 3D product and all the drilling, cutting, cleaning and sanding that would be required on such a small item, then considering what I have left to do on my model, I think I'm better off completing my cab. But that would certainly be a useful consideration if someone else wanted to build their own tanker, or any other cab-over version.

Many thanks for checking into this!

Cheers,

Russ

 

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Posted by The Drifter on Friday, August 23, 2019 11:50 AM

Hey Russ,

Wonderful start on this great project! Your scratch building skills are top notch, and I have no doubt that it is going to turn out perfect. I'll be along for the entire ride. Thank you for posting this project.

Jeff

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 24, 2019 10:39 AM

Thanks for the good words, Jeff! Much appreciated!

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, August 6, 2021 9:00 PM

Hello, All.

Hope you are all safe and healthy. It's been a while, but I finally got the urge to finish this beast. So far, the major parts are just about complete. Still some work and detail to do on  the cab and I need to add the walkway on top of the tank, but at least things are moving again. Below are a few pictures of my progress. Many thanks for looking!

 

 

 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, August 6, 2021 9:17 PM

Great progress.  Looks sharp.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:10 AM

Hot Diggety Dawg!

 Can I pick Nit? Well, I am gonna anyway. Round the tops of the fender ledges a little more for the scale. Otherwise, This is a hard one for sure. Now, all that said. If you want real good looking Walkways look to Model RailRoad Supplies. For sure! Looks like the trucks from Danang!

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 7, 2021 12:31 PM

Thank you, John!

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 7, 2021 12:41 PM

Hey, Tanker, feel free to Nit all you want, bud! Big Smile  BTW, do you mean the rear fender ledges?  Model Railroad supplies - wait...is that the name of a company? Do you by chance have a specific link for the walkway material? Otherwise, Walthers it is. Smile

When were you in Danang?

Many thanks for the advice and the good words!

 

 

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, August 7, 2021 7:24 PM

Hello Russ!

I would say it's more about the front fenders - the cab:

From what I heard this type Macks had the same cabs the Fords did.

Dang, if this was at least partly 3D printed, more people could build this baby themselves - I wouldn't say no to one!

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Modeltruckbuilder on Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:02 PM

Pawel

From what I heard this type Macks had the same cabs the Fords did.

Yes they are the same cab. The cabs were built by Budd Corporation, same company that makes the steel "Budd" wheel. Mack called it the N series or N model, Ford called it the C series. Ford would eventually transition from the dual headlight configuration on each side like Mack had to the single round headlight. Very versatile and popular truck that was produced into the 1980's.

https://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/truck_brochures/ford-us/ford_c-series_1980/

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:32 PM

Hello, Pawel, and thanks!  Yeah, the cab is not quite the right shape but heck, neither am I! lol.  I'll round those fenders off some more.

You're right - 3D printing, at least for the cab, is the way to go, although...  can it be done without making the insides solid? That would be a lot of work to carve out the insides if you wanted to detail the interior or add windows.

So if you had a 3D printed cab and the chassis and wheel sets from an Academy M35 kit (or equivalant), that would take care of the hardest portions of the model. The chassis has to be extended in two places, but that's easy.

For the tank, I used a plastic 1 1/2" diameter sink tail piece that you can pick up at a hardware store, so that was pretty easy to make. The pump house is pretty straight forward and a good way to use up some scrap pieces of styrene.

I only had two or three photos of the actual fuel truck that I could use for measurements and those were mostly at angles. And wouldn't you know it - after most of the truck was finished, I came across a website that had a full walkaround of the truck. Augh! This has happened to me many times before.

If you or anyone else is interested in doing one of these trucks, let me know. I'll be happy to help in any way I can.

Thanks for the help, Pawel and best of luck to you too, my friend.

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:52 PM

Hey, thanks MTB for the info!

BTW, here's the website I found with the full walkaround of the Ford T-800 fuel truck. 70+ photos. The truck is missing the pump house assembly, but I have other pictures of that.

https://www.govplanet.com/for-sale/Fuel-%26-Lube-Trucks-Ford-T-800-Fuel-Truck-Idaho/4167949

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, August 8, 2021 5:07 AM

Hello Russ!

The one from the link you posted is gone - but I found another one (or maybe it's the same being resold?):

https://www.allsurplus.com/asset/5/12660

Guess you have to save the photos fast, as long as they last!

Good luck with your tanker and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:06 AM

Pawel

The one from the link you posted is gone - but I found another one (or maybe it's the same being resold?):

 

Wow, that's wierd. The truck was there last night when I added the link. However, I have a series of the photos if anyone wants them. That's  not the same one though - the tank is different and it still has the pump house, which the other one didn't have.

Thanks, Pawel!

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:26 AM

Danang-1966-1977;

   Yes I was, But only in transient passing through both times. The company is Tichy Train Group. Hot, Noisy, and Couldn't wait for that 130 to get airborne!

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, August 8, 2021 9:44 AM

Tanker-Builder

Danang-1966-1977;

   Yes I was, But only in transient passing through both times. ....Hot, Noisy, and Couldn't wait for that 130 to get airborne!

I hear that! Smile

The company is Tichy Train Group.

Got it. Thanks!

 

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, August 25, 2021 4:05 PM

 Hi, All,

 Well, the beast is finally finished. I admit to a case of hurryitis at the last but I just needed to get this thing done Tongue Tied.  This vehicle is pretty imposing and is certainly eye-catching. I think it would be a good candidate for an Academy kit (hint, hint…) – they did such a good job on their M35 and other truck kits that I know this one would be a winner. Also,  many folks like this COE (cab over engine) style and the cab and chassis could be used for other truck versions.

Anyway, here are a few photos of my finished truck. Many thanks for looking!

 

 

 

Tags: 1/72 , 1:72 , vietnam , fuel truck , T-800

 

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:19 AM

Hello Russ!

Another very cool model no one else has! Congratulations and thanks for sharing!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, August 26, 2021 5:33 PM

Thanks, Pawel! 

Come on now, if you build one, mine won't be unique... Big Smile  

 

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Posted by TigerII on Friday, August 27, 2021 11:17 PM

Excellent job!

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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Posted by Dodgy on Saturday, August 28, 2021 12:48 AM

Awsome modeling Striker. Well done mate.

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 28, 2021 8:40 PM

Thanks, TigerII!

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, August 28, 2021 8:41 PM

Thanks, Dodgy!

 

 

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