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The Bullion Express--Boot Hill Express (Reboot 10-4-22)

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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 10:37 AM

littletimmy
I got plenty of em.  Diamond backs , Mohavies... let me know if you need any..

Hmm. No I think I am good.

littletimmy
( BTW, just shot a diamondback last Sunday morning. Right at the back door.... my stupid cat was thinking about playing with it so it was " rattling " pretty loud.)

I don't think there is a cat alive that wouldn't be tempted to play with it. Bad news bears.

littletimmy
Nice job on the interior roof.

Thank you.

littletimmy
But I have made them out of thin brass wire ( 1/87 scale)  so it can be done.

Thats my plan. I have plenty of wire I can use.

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    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 11:19 AM

Thanks Timmy but I'll pass too.

Unless you have a spare Horny Toad lying around.

 

Always wanted one since as a kid I kept hearing Yosemite Sam screaming about them...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 1:49 PM

As a matter of fact, ...

Yes, I have horny toads. 

There e everywhere out here. The bigger ones get to be about the size of my hand.

We also have two different kinds of frog , turtles, and the " Sonoran death toad" 

( apperently, they secret a toxin that can be hallucinogenic)

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:47 PM

Gamera
Unless you have a spare Horny Toad lying around

They are kind of baoring, actually.  That, from their refex to predators ging to be very still  Mind, disturb them enough and they'll shoot blood from their tear ducts (up to 5 feet).

Texas Horned Lizard (Phrynosoma cornutum) is not toad, an amphibian, but a tru lizard.

Their diet is red ants, so the invasion of fire ants has cut down on their numbers.  TPW has mounted several campaigns to beat back the fire ants and some return of native horned lizards has been seen.

The mascot of Texas Christian University in Fort Worth has been the "Horned Frog" since their founding.

Sadly, under-equipped of LED or rivets, or even velveteen coats in Victorian style and panache.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:03 PM

CapnMac82

 

 
Gamera
Unless you have a spare Horny Toad lying around

 

They are kind of baoring, actually.  That, from their refex to predators ging to be very still  Mind, disturb them enough and they'll shoot blood from their tear ducts (up to 5 feet).

Texas Horned Lizard (Phrynosoma cornutum) is not toad, an amphibian, but a tru lizard.

Their diet is red ants, so the invasion of fire ants has cut down on their numbers.  TPW has mounted several campaigns to beat back the fire ants and some return of native horned lizards has been seen.

The mascot of Texas Christian University in Fort Worth has been the "Horned Frog" since their founding.

Sadly, under-equipped of LED or rivets, or even velveteen coats in Victorian style and panache.

 

Always learning something on this forum. Stick out tongue

 

CapnMac82
Sadly, under-equipped of LED or rivets, or even velveteen coats in Victorian style and panache. Add Quote to your Post

Laughing...

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:13 PM

Speaking of learning. It is time for those inclined to provide a lesson in simulated fabric construction. I can look this up on the net, but I'd prefer to hear from you guys for tried and tested methods. I have not tried this before, so it will be a first.

I plan to remove some of the molded curtains. Primarily, from the rear doors. I will fabricate something more 3d and hang them in each corner of the carriage. This will enhance the look but also help hide any wiring I run. 

Btw. I will probably remove the tassels and make something better too.

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:20 PM

Yeah the horned lizard to use the more accurate and PC name is a pretty ordinary lizard other than being kinda funny looking and the whole squirting blood from the eyes thing. I just like the older less PC name. 

They're better than the friggin' gila monster though, I don't like anything that's poisonous. Plus I watched 'The Giant Gila Monster' on MST3K waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too many times. Though to be honest the lead actor's singing is more scary than the giant gila monster. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:21 PM

Bakster

Speaking of learning. It is time for those inclined to provide a lesson in simulated fabric construction. I can look this up on the net, but I'd prefer to hear from you guys for tried and tested methods. I have not tried this before, so it will be a first.

I plan to remove some of the molded curtains. Primarily, from the rear doors. I will fabricate something more 3d and hang them in each corner of the carriage. This will enhance the look but also help hide any wiring I run. 

Btw. I will probably remove the tassels and make something better too.

 

Now that is know nothing about. Looking forward to seeing how you do this. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:26 PM

Gamera

Yeah the horned lizard to use the more accurate and PC name is a pretty ordinary lizard other than being kinda funny looking and the whole squirting blood from the eyes thing. I just like the older less PC name. 

They're better than the friggin' gila monster though, I don't like anything that's poisonous. Plus I watched 'The Giant Gila Monster' on MST3K waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too many times. Though to be honest the lead actor's singing is more scary than the giant gila monster. 

 

That is a hoot, Gam. I enjoy hearing about the old movies you watch. I will have to look that one up. 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:57 PM

Yeah, the entire movie is on YouTube. Not sure if I'd recommend the regular version or the MST3K version though. Both are on YouTube. 

Trailer: 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:00 PM

And let me add 'Blood Beat', probably the best slasher movie about a possessed suit of samurai armour ever filmed in Wisconsin.

To be honest it tried to put me to sleep several times. Dull film but the ending is totally cray-cray!

Whole thing is on YouTube. No way I'd pay to see it...  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:25 PM

Bakster

Speaking of learning. It is time for those inclined to provide a lesson in simulated fabric construction. I can look this up on the net, but I'd prefer to hear from you guys for tried and tested methods. I have not tried this before, so it will be a first.

My favorite 'fake fabric' comes from picnic napkins (slightly thicker than regular tissue, and with some interesting textures available -- check party stores for a good selection) soaked in about a 50/50 mix of white glue and water. If you need to do some more advanced 'drapery shaping,' you can up the PVA percentage and wait till it starts to firm up, then shape it with a damp, soft brush.

If you need something more like pleats, the heavy foil used to seal stuff like yogurt containers is ideal...though you may have to rub it down with the back of a spoon if there's an annoying texture to lessen or remove. It's what I typically use for the 'accordian pleat' curtains on airliner models, easy to shape and holds it's form without crinkling the way regular kitchen foil would.

Cheers

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:10 PM

Gamera
Yeah, the entire movie is on YouTube. Not sure if I'd recommend the regular version or the MST3K version though. Both are on YouTube. 

Hey thanks, Cliff. I will add this to my Library to watch!

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    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:11 PM

Gamera
And let me add 'Blood Beat', probably the best slasher movie about a possessed suit of samurai armour ever filmed in Wisconsin. To be honest it tried to put me to sleep several times. Dull film but the ending is totally cray-cray! Whole thing is on YouTube. No way I'd pay to see it...  

Lol. Will do as the other. Thanks!

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:19 PM

gregbale

 

 
Bakster

Speaking of learning. It is time for those inclined to provide a lesson in simulated fabric construction. I can look this up on the net, but I'd prefer to hear from you guys for tried and tested methods. I have not tried this before, so it will be a first.

 

 

My favorite 'fake fabric' comes from picnic napkins (slightly thicker than regular tissue, and with some interesting textures available -- check party stores for a good selection) soaked in about a 50/50 mix of white glue and water. If you need to do some more advanced 'drapery shaping,' you can up the PVA percentage and wait till it starts to firm up, then shape it with a damp, soft brush.

If you need something more like pleats, the heavy foil used to seal stuff like yogurt containers is ideal...though you may have to rub it down with the back of a spoon if there's an annoying texture to lessen or remove. It's what I typically use for the 'accordian pleat' curtains on airliner models, easy to shape and holds it's form without crinkling the way regular kitchen foil would.

Cheers

 

Hey Gregbale-- thanks so much for your advice. You have given me something to think about. Using foil is something I did not think about as well. That might be the ticket. I will try both methods and see how it goes. 

Making these is a little ways off yet but not too far.  I wanted to get my ducks in line. 
Thanks again!

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    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:21 PM

that made me laugh gamera , cheers mate .

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:09 AM

Bakster:I was thinking (always a dangerous thing) that maybe you could check doll house fixtures for stuff like the tassels if you haven't already?

Steve5: Well I ain't good-looking, smart, or wealthy so I might as well try to be funny!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, July 15, 2021 5:21 PM

Gamera
Bakster:I was thinking (always a dangerous thing) that maybe you could check doll house fixtures for stuff like the tassels if you haven't already?

 

Anything I might find will probably be out of scale too large. But, it might be a good reason to get distracted at HL, as Capn likes to say. Wink 

I have some thoughts. We shall see. 

Gamera
Steve5: Well I ain't good-looking, smart, or wealthy so I might as well try to be funny!

You forgot your impeccable class A taste in movies. Stick out tongue

And just kidding. I like the same movies. 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, July 16, 2021 9:20 AM

My taste in movies makes the dog look at me like this...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 16, 2021 11:05 AM

Gamera

My taste in movies makes the dog look at me like this...

 

Laughing. 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 16, 2021 11:10 AM

Bakster

 

 
Gamera

My taste in movies makes the dog look at me like this...

 

 

 

Laughing. 

 

Btw. What does your dog know anyway. He thinks the cats litterbox is a box of chocolates. So ... he is not one to cast stones.

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, July 16, 2021 11:28 AM

Hey!

 There is a miniature company that puts out a nice catalogue. They might have something Besides the Tassles( Them Too) and other stuff. I will get back to you with their name tomorrow. I am not at home right now.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 16, 2021 11:41 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hey!

 There is a miniature company that puts out a nice catalogue. They might have something Besides the Tassles( Them Too) and other stuff. I will get back to you with their name tomorrow. I am not at home right now.

 

Ok thanks TB. Looking forward to it.

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 16, 2021 12:45 PM

I think this calls for chain mail.

Or rows of hanging chains like the IDF uses to keep RPG rounds out of the slot between a Merkava turret and hull. With little weights on the bottoms.

 Like this, but make your own...

https://dnmodels.com/product/ball-and-chain/

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, July 16, 2021 4:59 PM

GMorrison

I think this calls for chain mail.

Or rows of hanging chains like the IDF uses to keep RPG rounds out of the slot between a Merkava turret and hull. With little weights on the bottoms.

 Like this, but make your own...

https://dnmodels.com/product/ball-and-chain/

Bill

 

Wow, Bill. Now THAT is an interesting idea. What would you propose? Do I remove the side valances completely? Replace them with chain? What is your vision? 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Friday, July 16, 2021 6:56 PM

I'd take a look at some fine mesh tule fabric, or something on the line of 70 mesh screen.  If fabric could soak in diluted white glue, press between towels to keep the mesh open.  Form to shape, dry and paint steel or silver.

Various mesh screens are available from Jobe and Keene as gold classifiers.  Don't know if available as just the screen, but should be somewhere.

Would add to the armored look of the project

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 16, 2021 11:20 PM

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:34 PM

GMorrison

 

I like where you are going with this. Your design is how I imagined you might go with it and I like it. This could take the build to whole other level. There are two issues that I see.   I am not sure I would want the chains to hang so low because they would block view of the gold. The gold is such a big part of the plot. I could raise the chains but does that compromise the credibility of having them? Secondly. I need to review the logistics of it. I believe I'd have to push the valance panel back, and possible the floor as well in order to give clearance between the glass.

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:53 PM

goldhammer

I'd take a look at some fine mesh tule fabric, or something on the line of 70 mesh screen.  If fabric could soak in diluted white glue, press between towels to keep the mesh open.  Form to shape, dry and paint steel or silver.

Various mesh screens are available from Jobe and Keene as gold classifiers.  Don't know if available as just the screen, but should be somewhere.

Would add to the armored look of the project

 

Thanks GH! Good idea.  I am reviewing... Yes

  • Member since
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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:06 PM

Chain might be a pain, especially made up as mail.

Now, the Merkava-style chain, with a ball weight on the end could be interesting.

I dunno.

Youghurt and some sour cream container foil lids offer a nicely foldable material--if sometimes with funky textures.

Finding a restaurant supply house could net you some restaurant heavy-weight AL foil (leaves the Renyolds stuff in the dust).  RSH will also have supplies of heavier-weight paper products like napkins and the like (and might have some "lace" products as well).

For tassles, you might look at braided wire with the jacket stripped away.

For larger scale, a person could poke a couple of pins in something and wrap thread around the two pins eebenty dozen times. 

Take a bit of the tread and make a loop around all the strands and snub it up against each of the pins.  This will be the "hanger" thread.

Take another bit of thread and pass it around the loops in between the pins, but snubbed up close, and take 5-7 wraps around and tie off. 

Cut in between the pins and you ought have two tassles.

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