I do know of some stuff in 1/48.

      Would the large parts in that scale work? If so try Hobby Builders Supply and Miniatures.Com in Atlanta, Ga.30340-3252

Phone , 1-800-926-6464. They have some flags and banners too.

The Roof

I had some setbacks. I had AB issues leading to excessive orange peel. I wet sanded and unfortunately the prolonged exposure to water led to the paint not feathering correctly, ultimately, leading to paint bubbling. It was a do over. I had to strip the paint and start over.  

The redo:

1. Primed with Tamiya Gray Fine Surfce Primer. Then wet sanded.

2. Paint was a mix Tamiya green and white to get the hue I wanted. Then wet sanded being careful to wipe excess water.

The weathering:

This is close to what I was looking for. 

My vision for the roof is to have an oxidized look. I envision the carriage being bleached from the desert sun. There is more to this theme and one of these days I will post the story.

My initial plan to achieve what I wanted did not work out. That plan was to spray copious amounts of IPA on the color coat and that would cause the paint to fade and turn chalky. I have done this process on another build and that was the outcome. For some reason, it had almost zero effect here. 

This then led me to the internet. I found a Model RR thread on the subject, and they had many options to offer. The one I settled on is a modified version and is as follows:

1. Apply a layer of Dullcote.

2. Mix Dullcote with a small amount of white and a small amount of the base color. Spray to liking.

3. Mix Dullcote with a small amount of white and spray to liking.

4. I gave it a final dry sand to smooth out the surface and to blend the various layers.

Now I am working on the ceiling piece. More on that probably not too far off.

Tanker-Builder

I do know of some stuff in 1/48.

      Would the large parts in that scale work? If so try Hobby Builders Supply and Miniatures.Com in Atlanta, Ga.30340-3252

Phone , 1-800-926-6464. They have some flags and banners too.

 

Here is the thread I mentioned.

https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/22478?page=8

looking good steve

steve5

looking good steve

 

Hey thanks Steve o.

Bakster

This then led me to the internet.

We have so many resources available out there, and the range and scope can still amaze me.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

This then led me to the internet.

 

 

We have so many resources available out there, and the range and scope can still amaze me.

 

So true. And the Model RR guys are some of the best in terms weathering, sculpting, you name it.

A few weeks back I went to HT in search of wood colored paint. Tamiya makes a flavor I wanted but I was stymied to see they didn't stock it. Looking further they had Vallejo wood, but I did not like the shade. It sort of looked like white pine, too light for my taste. About to give up I turn the corner to find Revell's line of paint. They had something called Ochre. The shade looked decent but--I have not used their paints and I hated to start in the middle of a project. I talked to one of the guys and he hadn't tried it either. Sigh. Not feeling like wasting more time searching, I pulled the trigger and purchased it. 

The paint is extremely thick.

I pressed on. I did some research and one reviewer claimed good result thinning with IPA. For grins, I tried using Tamiya X20A with a drop of retarder. The paint sprayed nicely. It covered well, laid down flat, while showing little sign of grain. I did have to watch the needle though. I had seen some paint build up. The short of this is that the paint shows potential. I might work with it more.

Below:

The ceiling is painted and is yet untreated. Below it are two test pieces. The left treated with teak wood stain, the right is treated with vandyke artist oil. Though the images make both look blotchy, in real life they look better. I suspect I compressed the images too much.

To my eye the teak stain looks richer and with more consistent coverage than the artist oil but-- they both look acceptable to me. I am still on the fence which way I will go. It might come down to which will present fewer issues with masking and/or with accepting another layer of paint. Not sure what issues stain might present on the latter.

And that is where I am at.

I'm with you steve , the teak does look richer , but I started thinking , with the one on the right , some very light dry brushing with a slightly darker brown , might give it some grain and depth . 

steve5

I'm with you steve , the teak does look richer , but I started thinking , with the one on the right , some very light dry brushing with a slightly darker brown , might give it some grain and depth . 

 

Hey Steve, thanks for responding and for your opinion. You are the second person pointing to the teak. The other was off line.

That is a good point about the dry brushing. I will keep that as an option as well.

Cheers!

To Be Honest:

   The darker piece looks good to promote a shadow effect with the lighter being the surface in bright sunlight!

Tanker-Builder

To Be Honest:

   The darker piece looks good to promote a shadow effect with the lighter being the surface in bright sunlight!

 

Exactly. Also, the ceiling will not be exposed to direct sunlight as the roof will be. It will surely feel some heat with it being closed up, and that can dry the wood, but it shouldn't bleach the finish like the piece exposed to direct sunlight.

The roof looks good and the weathered look appears convincing to me.

Re your roof painting troubles, don't you just love it how just about the time you think you're starting to get a handle on airbrushing, it goes and throws a curve ball at you? I've had that happen so many times, and I suspect many more to come.

I like the teak ceiling.

Greg

The roof looks good and the weathered look appears convincing to me.

Greg

Re your roof painting troubles, don't you just love it how just about the time you think you're starting to get a handle on airbrushing, it goes and throws a curve ball at you? I've had that happen so many times, and I suspect many more to come.

Right?  I thought I was past that. Foolish me. That is what I get by adding a different AB into the mix, and one that might have a bad needle bearing. Jury is out on that. This was the start of all the trouble. Then going back to my old reliable-- I was getting a different problem-- orange peel. I can't explain it. Probably a slight change in the back and forth settings that got me.

Anyhow-- I got through it and that is what counts. Cheers!    Gulp gulp gulp..

Greg

I like the teak ceiling.

Survey says... teak!

The concensus is teak. I am going with the teak!

Bakster

teak stain looks richer

How to paint things "like wood" is one of those subjective rabbit holes with many entrances, and few, if any, destinations.

Wood is a vexing thing for not being a uniform color.  Plain white maple can be staineed to look like cherry.  Bleached ebony can look like sebrawood (a common scam in knife scale blanks).  And, of course, the color wood turns when left out in the sun is extremely hard to render.

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

It might look more like box elder than spalted maple to my eye--but, it's still wood. 

Teak is vexing, though.  It can really resemble tea--as in being greenish, brownish, hints of black, and the like.  It was very annoying to try and get thwarts to match when I was building Boat #1.

Both of the samples are good, the one is a tad "warmer" as shown, but will likely be darker when inverted and used as a ceiling.  Your choice will be the winner.

CapnMac82

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

That is going down as the philosophical quote of the day. I love it.

CapnMac82

 

 

Bakster

teak stain looks richer

 

 

How to paint things "like wood" is one of those subjective rabbit holes with many entrances, and few, if any, destinations.

Wood is a vexing thing for not being a uniform color.  Plain white maple can be staineed to look like cherry.  Bleached ebony can look like sebrawood (a common scam in knife scale blanks).  And, of course, the color wood turns when left out in the sun is extremely hard to render.

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

It might look more like box elder than spalted maple to my eye--but, it's still wood. 

Teak is vexing, though.  It can really resemble tea--as in being greenish, brownish, hints of black, and the like.  It was very annoying to try and get thwarts to match when I was building Boat #1.

Both of the samples are good, the one is a tad "warmer" as shown, but will likely be darker when inverted and used as a ceiling.  Your choice will be the winner.

 

Wow Captain, you absolutely NAILED IT. This is why I said that I am okay with both test pieces. Because hey, it's subjective. Who is to say that Nemo didn't use white pine and he applied a clear? Lol. But for this project, I agree with others the darker color will aesthetically look best. Nemo is an extravagant guy, a somewhat richer look should fit the bill.  

Thanks Everyone for your feedback. I didn't expect it, and it's much appreciated.

Greg

 

 

CapnMac82

So, for 2¢, if it looks like wood to you, it looks like wood to me too.

 

 

That is going down as the philosophical quote of the day. I love it.

 

Right? It's awesome!

Looks good from here too! 

Mate, I'm just so impressed with the way this thing callenges you and you keep pressing on. It's all looking great to me and it's such a cool idea.

Gamera

Looks good from here too! 

 

10-4 Good Buddy. Over and out. 

Dodgy

Mate, I'm just so impressed with the way this thing callenges you and you keep pressing on. It's all looking great to me and it's such a cool idea.

 

Thanks Dodgy. I appreciate you following along on this bumpy journey!

So far, what the model has thrown at me I can fix but I know there will be more coming. I am holding my breath.

I tell ya. The thing I am worried about most right now is what I just did. Last night I applied the teak stain, and it looks GREAT! I love how stain looks on paint. What I am worried about is what gremlins are in hiding.

I learned about using wood stain on paint when I was working on a Mayflower ship build. I don't think the practice is used much because I seldom see it done. Frankly--it's a scary thought. Stain has some harsh chemicals and or oils in it, and I worry how that might affect the paint layer. Complicating things I am using a new paint. What works on one paint might not work on another.

The test piece seemed to fare well, so I took the plunge. My next concern is that I still need to spray the support and frame structures. I don't know how the stain might affect adhesion. I think I will be Ok, but one never knows until you get there. Long story short-- this is one piece that I don't want to do a do-over. It was a lot of work, and the electricals complicate a complete do over. Fingers crossed. 

PS: How are things in Australia? 

Correct!

 Wood, finished and in an enclosed space will darken over time. It would get almost Black/Brown( Dark) if it spent forty or fifty years in a " Gentlemen's Club" What with all the Cigar and Pipe smoke. By " Gentlemen's Club" I don't mean That place where wimmen are large on top!

Tanker-Builder

Wood, finished and in an enclosed space will darken over time. It would get almost Black/Brown( Dark) if it spent forty or fifty years in a " Gentlemen's Club" What with all the Cigar and Pipe smoke

Maybe I should add some plush smoking chairs to the build. Could be nice for the person to sit and put their feet up on the pile of gold.

Masking/painting on stain went without a hitch. I painted the bracing/frames with a mix of Alclad steel and Alclad brass. The ceiling is glued using Tamiya Orange cap and with a good slathering of sprue goo.

I made the lightcage out of hobby wire. That was tricky but perseverance won the battle.

I will probably mount the guns and gun housing tomorrow. 

That is really looking the part! The side of me that likes bad puns way too much is tempted to comment about your willingness to go against the grain, having nerves of steel and getting down to brass tacks. But I will avoid that amateurish temptation

But seriously that looks REALLY nice and thanks for sharing the techniques for wood finish, I learned something today.

Bakster

 

 

Dodgy

Mate, I'm just so impressed with the way this thing callenges you and you keep pressing on. It's all looking great to me and it's such a cool idea.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Dodgy. I appreciate you following along on this bumpy journey!

So far, what the model has thrown at me I can fix but I know there will be more coming. I am holding my breath.

I tell ya. The thing I am worried about most right now is what I just did. Last night I applied the teak stain, and it looks GREAT! I love how stain looks on paint. What I am worried about is what gremlins are in hiding.

I learned about using wood stain on paint when I was working on a Mayflower ship build. I don't think the practice is used much because I seldom see it done. Frankly--it's a scary thought. Stain has some harsh chemicals and or oils in it, and I worry how that might affect the paint layer. Complicating things I am using a new paint. What works on one paint might not work on another.

The test piece seemed to fare well, so I took the plunge. My next concern is that I still need to spray the support and frame structures. I don't know how the stain might affect adhesion. I think I will be Ok, but one never knows until you get there. Long story short-- this is one piece that I don't want to do a do-over. It was a lot of work, and the electricals complicate a complete do over. Fingers crossed. 

PS: How are things in Australia? 

 

That's what I mean, I love the way that you're not afraid to try new things and just having a 'go'. Thats a very important principal in Oz. 

Things here a generally pretty good. The Covid thing is a bugger, but that's so everywhere. We live in a fishing village on the coast of Eastern Victoria 4 hours drive from the State Capital and its a beautiful place with a good community. Even though it's Winter, the weather has been really mild so I'm still able to get lots done in the garden. 

Back to the bench

The side of me that likes bad puns way too much is tempted to comment about your willingness to go against the grain, having nerves of steel and getting down to brass tacks. But I will avoid that amateurish temptation

I love bad puns. Lol.  

Back to the bench

But seriously that looks REALLY nice and thanks for sharing the techniques for wood finish, I learned something today.

Hey, thank you, Gil. And yes, for this job, the stain fit the bill. What I like about it most is the even coverage. I was thinking it would be interesting to see how it would work to do some dry brushing on the base color and then apply the stain. I imagine it would blend things nicely. I will need to try that sometime.

Thanks again for following and for your post!

Dodgy

That's what I mean, I love the way that you're not afraid to try new things and just having a 'go'. Thats a very important principal in Oz

Hey thank you Dodgy! Your words humble me.

Dodgy

Things here a generally pretty good. The Covid thing is a bugger, but that's so everywhere. We live in a fishing village on the coast of Eastern Victoria 4 hours drive from the State Capital and its a beautiful place with a good community. Even though it's Winter, the weather has been really mild so I'm still able to get lots done in the garden. 

I hear you about the Covid bugger. It is disrupting life in a monumental way. It is discouraging.

Where you live sounds beautiful! I looked it up to get a general idea of your location. If you have a few images of the area, I would love to see them. Feel free to post them.

Thanks for following along and I enjoy hearing from you Mate.