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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:45 PM

Tanker-Builder

Well;

 If you fail then my way is wrong after all! Nah, looking good!

 

Thanks TB

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Posted by Mac Fixx on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:45 PM

New to the forum.  Wow.  There's a lot to swallow in this thread and much to learn.  Thanks to all for sharing.

Mac

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:02 PM

Mac Fixx

New to the forum.  Wow.  There's a lot to swallow in this thread and much to learn.  Thanks to all for sharing.

Mac

 

Hey Mac, welcome to the forum! I am glad to hear you found this thread and that you are enjoying it. Feel free to ask questions as they come up, or, just to chime in. There is a lot of chiming going on, and for the questions, there are wiser folk than me here if I can't answer it.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:11 PM

Mac Fixx
There's a lot to swallow in this thread and much to learn. Thanks to all for sharing.

And, whatever you do, don't scroll down to the Science Fiction sub-forum and look up the Icarus build.

Not unless you have a lot of time (it's near to 70 pages long, and mostly ape & monkey jokes).

There's an outstanding model build set in a nifty diorama, though.  If at the end of an Icelandic Edda Smile

Oh, and whatever you do, don't look for our dear Baxter's Seaview build--it's stunning, too.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:24 AM

CapnMac82

 

 
Mac Fixx
There's a lot to swallow in this thread and much to learn. Thanks to all for sharing.

 

And, whatever you do, don't scroll down to the Science Fiction sub-forum and look up the Icarus build.

Not unless you have a lot of time (it's near to 70 pages long, and mostly ape & monkey jokes).

There's an outstanding model build set in a nifty diorama, though.  If at the end of an Icelandic Edda Smile

Oh, and whatever you do, don't look for our dear Baxter's Seaview build--it's stunning, too.

 

Hey Capn--  You are too kind, sir! Thank you!

CapnMac82
(it's near to 70 pages long, and mostly ape & monkey jokes)

Lol... so true. 

 

My job has me bound tightly but maybe this weekend I will get more done. 

I guess I can spill the beans about a change. I decided to pull the trigger and buy casting resin. Though the Puduo works, I have since found some bubbles rose to the surface causing dimples. (Thus is the need for a pressure pot). I could easily fill the defects with CA but call me crazy, I decided I went through all this work with the mold, why not try using the recommended pourable resin. I want to see how well their product works. And since casting is something I have wanted to dabble in at some point, now is a good time to experiment. 

I didn't originally plan to do this so I might face some issues in how well the resin flows into the mold. I have seen that some people use syringes to inject resin and that could be an option to try if all else fails.

It's a journey, and it can't be a journey if I don't take it.  

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:53 AM

Awwwwwwwww, the PotA Icarus build thread was friggin' epic!!!

 

Looking forward to seeing how the casting resin works out. Of course no reason you can't make a dozen or more wheels with different materials and techniques to see which one works out the bestest!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, September 16, 2021 4:30 PM

I have yet to go into the realm of casting but stuff like this makes me want to give it a whirl. Most impressive Steve.

                   

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 16, 2021 6:22 PM

Gamera
Awwwwwwwww, the PotA Icarus build thread was friggin' epic!!!

That makes me laugh, Cliff. Still laughing.

Gamera
Of course no reason you can't make a dozen or more wheels with different materials and techniques to see which one works out the bestest!!!

Now there is a man that appreciates experimentation! Yes

I can't wait to get at it.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 16, 2021 6:23 PM

mustang1989

I have yet to go into the realm of casting but stuff like this makes me want to give it a whirl. Most impressive Steve.

 

Thanks Joe! 

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  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Thursday, September 16, 2021 7:04 PM

Bakko me old mate, (in Oz we tend to shorten everything and usually put an 'o' on peoples names. Why???? FIK), I have never had a crack at casting, not sure if I want to, so I'm going to watch and learn from your trials and trepidations. It's cheaper and less painful that way..........

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 16, 2021 7:48 PM

Dodgy
Bakko me old mate, (in Oz we tend to shorten everything and usually put an 'o' on peoples names. Why???? FIK)

Hey Dodgy me old mate, too funny. My sister called me Bakko. It was Bakko this,  and Bakko that. And what you doing Bakko. Why? FIK either. Lol. I guess I am a Bakko sort of guy.

Dodgy
so I'm going to watch and learn from your trials and trepidations. It's cheaper and less painful that way..........

My brother, that sounds like a good plan. Grab some popcorn, tip a frothy, and watch ...

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 17, 2021 11:30 AM

2:07 mark.

 

The reason... THE GOLD.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, September 17, 2021 11:32 AM

Demoted to 1 star. Thought police I am sure.Indifferent

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:01 PM

The good, the bad, and the ugly. Today, was the UGLY. I tried separating the mold and behold, it was stuck together... BADLY. I had to cut along the join to open it and the end result, the mold is trashed. It is a complete do-over. I DID use a mold release agent prior to pouring the second half but I suspect it's the wrong stuff. It is probably used more for releasing a resin cast than for separating a mold. So there you go, Dodgy. A learning moment for you at my expense!

I have started over. I made some changes that I would have preferred done previously, so I guess that can be the silver lining. I have to find something to hang my hat on.

The first half of the mold is poured, and curing.

Do I use baby powder? Ot is baby powder used after, when the molds are separated and when casting resin?  I don't want to mess this one up too. One video I watched recommended a mixture of 4 parts IPA to one part dish soap. I will search the net more too. Any advice from you guys would be appreciated.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:11 PM

Just found this. 

https://www.smooth-on.com/support/faq/94/

The video said 4 parts IPA, this says 2 parts. Already not instilling much confidence.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:05 PM

Bakster
Any advice from you guys would be appreciated.

Back int he Dark Ages (e.g. 80s) talcum powder (tile & grout supplier was cheaper than "babby" labeled) was the go-to for RTV mould release once the moulds were cast. 

Mineral oil was the go-to for releasing the master out of the individual casts.

Now, that was tens of thousands of donkey's years ago, too.

Technology has changed; we're even told it's improved, too.

Had this forum, and YT been around (at present technological maturity) inthe 80s, I'd have been sore impoverished keeping up with the times.  How I would have built boats too boggles my mind Smile

Mind, I would have still been stuck places where it was easier to rent a shed and build a boat during the week.  And my local railway club scenery would have been on video--probably bad video Smile

Ugh, you used the "w**k" word.  Gak!  I found out Friday we're inking another contract with our worst customer.  They expect miracles, refuse to listen when prices are quoted in dollars and they budgeted for only cents.  Then, when, predictably, things cost dollars, they want changes, for free, to get things back to cents, except, it always costs dollars not donuts by that point.  And, we never, ever, bill for the fact that we wind up doing 3x the work for these clowns.

Sigh.  How much for an AnyCuic printer again? Smile

  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 19, 2021 7:04 PM

Hey thanks for chiming in, Mark. I did more research and I found a reference from Smooth On for a product called, Ease Release 205.  But, I am in no mood to spend/order another product costing 20 some Dollars. The link I pasted earlier mentions a mixture of vaseline and mineral spirits. I already have both, so, I think I will try that. I don't think I will test fate with IPA and dishsoap. 

CapnMac82
Ugh, you used the "w**k" word.  Gak!  I found out Friday we're inking another contract with our worst customer.  They expect miracles, refuse to listen when prices are quoted in dollars and they budgeted for only cents.  Then, when, predictably, things cost dollars, they want changes, for free, to get things back to cents, except, it always costs dollars not donuts by that point.  And, we never, ever, bill for the fact that we wind up doing 3x the work for these clowns.

You have my pity. That sucks.

I know exactly what you mean because we just did something similar. Though, in my case, the customer is at least profitable for us. The downside is they don't live in reality, they expect miracles to happen on a daily basis, and they are a massive time suck. We almost lost the account but with some creative negotiation we managed to keep them. It is a bitter sweet outcome. I guess that I should not look a gift horse in the mouth. They generate some Dollars for me and they are on a pace to double their business this year. Still, they are taking years off my life and I don't know if the money is worth it.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 19, 2021 7:29 PM

No idea what to do, just watching and trying to learn something. 

Good luck Bakster, I can at least cheer you on. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 19, 2021 7:41 PM

Gamera

No idea what to do, just watching and trying to learn something. 

Good luck Bakster, I can at least cheer you on. 

 

No worries, Cliff.  I appreciate the cheering! I will keep banging at it. 

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  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Sunday, September 19, 2021 10:54 PM

Good luck Bakko, I'm barracking for you mate. You'll make it happen.

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, September 20, 2021 12:51 AM

Dodgy

Good luck Bakko, I'm barracking for you mate. You'll make it happen.

 

 

Yes

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 6:55 PM

Hey, ...

It's been about 8 days since we heard from you ....

You didn't get stuck in the molding compound ,  ... did you ???

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 7:17 PM

I was wondering the same thing little timmy , need my fix .

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 10:34 PM

littletimmy
You didn't get stuck in the molding compound ,  ... did you ???

Good one. Yes

Let's just say that casting this piece has been more difficult than I thought it would be. (Airpockets, air pockets, and air pockets). THAT, and add the utter turmoil at my job along with some turmoil at home has kept me away. I am working on it though. I think that I have a path through this, just not quite how I would like it.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 28, 2021 10:37 PM

steve5

I was wondering the same thing little timmy , need my fix .

 

Steve, sorry to keep you hanging. I should probably have a big update by Saturday. Maybe sooner.

Cheers Mate.

  • Member since
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  • From: Lakes Entrance, Victoria, Australia.
Posted by Dodgy on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 7:07 PM

Just look after yourself mate. You first, family next, (can't look after your family if you're down for the count). Work then pleasure. We can wait. Just remember, if the moeling goes south, there's always beer!

I long to live in a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned

  • Member since
    July 2013
Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:43 PM

what dodgy said my friend , look after yourself . if you don't like beer i'll have some for you , after all , what are friends for , Geeked

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:47 AM

Dodgy

Just look after yourself mate. You first, family next, (can't look after your family if you're down for the count). Work then pleasure. We can wait. Just remember, if the moeling goes south, there's always beer!

 

What's the saying? God, Family, Country? Should it be, God, Family, Modeling?

Not a fan of CNN but this was sent to me and I think it sums up nicely some of the problems we are seeing. Add the on-going resin shortages and other material shortages that include rolled steel:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/29/business/supply-chain-workers/index.html

From the move Office Space:

 "I was sitting in my cubicle today and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So, that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life."

Tongue Tied

Funny movie if you have not seen it.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:49 AM

steve5

what dodgy said my friend , look after yourself . if you don't like beer i'll have some for you , after all , what are friends for , Geeked

 

Thanks Mate!  The Captain in me prefers Rum but beer works too. I'll bring the pizza. Pizza

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Thursday, September 30, 2021 10:16 AM

Bakster
From the move Office Space: "I was sitting in my cubicle today and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So, that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life." Tongue Tied Funny movie if you have not seen it.

Haven't seen it, but it reminds of an old friend always used to say "It doesn't matter how messed [sic] up today is, tomorrow will be worse". Unfortunately, I think he meant it.

Good luck with the resin and everything else, Steve. I'm following along with everyone else here.

-Greg

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