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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, March 9, 2018 10:06 PM

Greg, nice update, I like how it's coming together.   Noticed the paint down the center of the lens too, maybe you had two sections of tape over that area?

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by Greg on Friday, March 9, 2018 6:52 PM

stikpusher

Greg, I’ve used PE in cockpits before, just never the IP like this. I do like the stuff.

 

Got that. Yep, the panels can look pretty cool as you've demonstrated.

This afternoon I finished up weathering (I think) and applied a final flat coat (I think again Smile), so it was time to pop the sacrificial canopy and take a deep breath and remove masks.

I am pretty happy with the landing light masks, though I really cannot understand the strip right down the middle...

And look, I missed a seam between the gun barrels. The wonders of closeups, and no, I'm not going to fix it!

As mentioned before, I am unhappy with the ocean grey because it is too dark and almost no contrast between it and the green. So I decided this is the model to try grunging up those decals and other stuff but good....

And one more view. I always hate beyond hate masking cockpits. This was my first sacrificial canopy and it leaves me wishing every kit came with an extra. It was pure joy popping the painted over one off.

After my usual Flory wash, the decals were still to crisp so I tried some pastel powders. Haven't done that since on an HO caboose 30 yrs back, I like the results, hope you do to.

Now on to the fiddly bits. I'm afraid the canopy is going to look too pristine on this pretty well-used airframe, but so be it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 9, 2018 6:20 PM

Greg, I’ve used PE in cockpits before, just never the IP like this. I do like the stuff.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:52 PM

Lostagain, Lightning looking good. Nice work dealing with the imperfections.

Stik, PE cocpit looks great. Your first one, eh? I'd never guess. The dry-brushing really sets everything off. I'm going to buy some enamels for drybrushing and washing I think.

Gammy, sometimes if it isn't one thing it's another, eh.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 8, 2018 7:43 AM

Thanks SP, I didn't even think about post-Second World War aircraft. I think the cockpits of night fighters and bombers were painted black or dark grey too. 

Nice work on the Vampy, you're making real progress there! 

 

Sorry, not so much progress here, one of the stencils wasn't straight so I removed it with decal setting solution, then scratched the paint with my hobby knife, went back and repainted the area, and now the second decal silvered... 

I laid some Future over it, that should seep down behind it and seal it stopping the silvering- or that's the plan anyhow. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 2:26 PM

Jack and Bish, thank you sirs.

Dry brushing completed...

 

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 2:17 PM

Nice work on that pit Stik.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 1:03 PM

Nick, I like how she appears just clean, so look forward to the weathering ...

Lost, looking quite good despite the downfalls of the kit.


Stik, good work on interior details.  One way I've attached clear film behind an  IP is with future clear, and once dry just run some superglue gel around edges and wipe off any excess.

Eric, off hand, I wouldn't know exactly the colour of primer(s) for RAF.  I've googled the subject with Britmodeller in the search parameters, but find various topics - not sure if it depends on the aircraft type, manufacture or time frame.  I 've seen grey, grey green, and silver/aluminum paint mentioned.  There was also an entry by the late Edgar Brooks with the statement that with aluminum surfaces, aircraft were also camouflage painted directly without any primer to save on weight.

  Some interesting notes about weathering on the Sunderland here:
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235030223-italeri-short-sunderland-mk-iii-advices/


regards,
Jack

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 12:31 PM

Gamera

Eric: Sorry no idea. Other than RAF cockpit green and aluminium I don't know any other interior colours. 

Black was used in cockpits from shortly after WWII thru the 60’s or so, when a medium gray came into use.

Well, I did get a little work done on the Vampire in the past coup,e of days. Of the few rimes that’s I have used Eduard detail sets, this is the first time that I actually have made the IP. These are a new experience for me. Very nice but a bit of a quandary a short to how to get the instrument film onto the back of the PE panel. I ended up using Micro liquid tape on the back to get it to stick. And that was after I added some white paper onto the back of the Instrument Dials film. Overall I really like the look

 

 

 

and I did detail painting and wash in the cockpit tub

 

 

I just need to do some dry brushing in there now, add the seat harness, and I can get it all installed.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:13 AM

Eric: Sorry no idea. Other than RAF cockpit green and aluminium I don't know any other interior colours. 

Nick: Looks good, you're making great progress. 

LA: Wow, is this one of Airfix's new kits or one of the older ones? I was hoping after all the issues you had with the Cobra this one would be a nice easy build for you. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:03 AM

LA what Paint scheme on that lighting?

Bish I’m leaning toward a hawker hunter in 1/48 for the Commonwealth GB

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 6:59 AM

Coming on nicely LA, and thanks for the heads up. Seems Airfix still have a way to go before they reach tamiya level of fit.

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Posted by lostagain on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 6:57 AM

Nick, looking really good, great work on the camouflage and markings.  
 Castel, The Walrus is an ugly duckling right now, but I can see it will grow up very nicely.
I read ahead for the Lightning build and some reviews said to look out for how the fuselage fits around the cockpit/intake trunk. Some reviews showed a big gap on the seam along the top of the nose. With a bit of trimming of the fuselage walls and the side of the trunk and it closed up nicely.
This did leave the intake ring a bit oversized though, so a bit of filler was required. A bit more was required on the belly seam
When it came to putting the instrument coaming on, it wouldn’t fit. Guess why? Another jolly ejector pin lump sticking out…
Then I got the wings and tail on, a good fit, but I will need to run some filler into the joint to seal them up.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 6:55 AM

Eric as far as I can tell it’s that raf light green with black flight deck but that’s my appinion 

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 2:06 AM

Really progressing well now Nick, can't wait to see this finished.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 7, 2018 2:05 AM

EBergerud
Might be able to get back to the Sunderland pretty soon. Anyone know what color of primer was used on Brit planes? Eric
 

Good question Eric and i have no idea. I have just tried doing a search and any sites that might help, such as Brit modeller, are blocked while i am at work. I'll have a look tonight, unless some one elkse can help in the meantime.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:12 PM

all the decals are in place will start weathering soon.

 

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 5:02 PM
Might be able to get back to the Sunderland pretty soon. Anyone know what color of primer was used on Brit planes? Eric

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:36 AM

Yep, thats the one. Decal sheet also comes with Indian markings, but not nearly as colourful.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:31 AM

the pretty blue camo?

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:54 AM

Decisions decisions. I am doing 3 British ones but also have some decals for a Bangladesh MiG 29.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:48 AM

Im doing the same thing Gamera sorting out decals !!! getting ready but dont know yet what to build what a problem!

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 7:30 AM

Yeap so I have a month to sort though a pile of Canadian, Australian, and New Zealander subjects and try to settle on just one... 

(Funny, only now I notice I don't have anything South African, guess I need to add at least one...) 

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:47 AM

ok Im in 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:36 AM

Sorry Nick, i am just going to keep it for Commonwealth member or former member states.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:18 AM

How about countries useing British equipment ?

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 6:09 AM

damouav

 

 
Bish

 

 
damouav

 

 
Bish

Eric, this GB ends on 1st April, but of course any started builds can carry on being posted. The Commonwealth GB will begin on the 1st May and any RAF builds would be eligible for that, so you could wait out for that if you wished.

 

 

 

What is this Commonwealth GB you talk of Bish!

 

 

 

It will be for aircraft from the nations of the Commonwealth as well as the 4 former members. And it will be open to all branches of service, so not just the Air Forces. I'll put a build thread up at the start of April and it will run until 28th April next year, the 70th Anniversary of the London Declaration.

 

 

 

Im in.

An Aussie RAAF bird of some type.

Cant wait!

 

I expected nothing less Big Smile

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 4:32 AM

Bish

 

 
damouav

 

 
Bish

Eric, this GB ends on 1st April, but of course any started builds can carry on being posted. The Commonwealth GB will begin on the 1st May and any RAF builds would be eligible for that, so you could wait out for that if you wished.

 

 

 

What is this Commonwealth GB you talk of Bish!

 

 

 

It will be for aircraft from the nations of the Commonwealth as well as the 4 former members. And it will be open to all branches of service, so not just the Air Forces. I'll put a build thread up at the start of April and it will run until 28th April next year, the 70th Anniversary of the London Declaration.

 

Im in.

An Aussie RAAF bird of some type.

Cant wait!

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 4:24 AM

damouav

 

 
Bish

Eric, this GB ends on 1st April, but of course any started builds can carry on being posted. The Commonwealth GB will begin on the 1st May and any RAF builds would be eligible for that, so you could wait out for that if you wished.

 

 

 

What is this Commonwealth GB you talk of Bish!

 

It will be for aircraft from the nations of the Commonwealth as well as the 4 former members. And it will be open to all branches of service, so not just the Air Forces. I'll put a build thread up at the start of April and it will run until 28th April next year, the 70th Anniversary of the London Declaration.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, March 6, 2018 4:19 AM

Bish

Eric, this GB ends on 1st April, but of course any started builds can carry on being posted. The Commonwealth GB will begin on the 1st May and any RAF builds would be eligible for that, so you could wait out for that if you wished.

 

What is this Commonwealth GB you talk of Bish!

In Progress
1/48 Tamiya P47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
Pending
1/48 Roden S.E.5a
1/48 Airfix Walrus
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