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ESCI Magach 6B
Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 1:44 PM

Another one? Yep. There's a story though: I bought a bunch of stuff at the AMPS gathering on the 18th, and while putting stuff either in the parts kit area or to-build place, kept looking at an ESCI hull and turret from a partially started kit I bought a couple of years ago. I thought I'd just part it out, but kind of as a "calming exercise" I cleaned up the existing assembly work, scratched up the IDF mantler cover and assembled the turret basket, adding Eduard mesh, then pushed it up onto the shelf of shame. Every now and then I'd see a part that would work with it and just toss it inside the hull, moving on. Well, I bought some stuff on the 18th that got me thinking about actually building this thing as what it's labeled as on the box, not what's actually in the box, easily done in truth. I did just that a few years ago but really botched the paint, plus I used a lot of "inaccurate" kit parts on it. So this time I'm revisiting, with the goal of incorporating corrections I didn't on the last one. I can't really "fix" a lot of the kit's details, but I can certainly make things look more convincing, and I have to admit, I like doing this kind of stuff. I could pull my Takom M60A1 out of the stash and use it, but where's the fun in that?

So beginning with the hull halves joined and final drives on, turret bare except for the mantlet and basket, here I am so far:

 IMG_2027 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_2026 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_2025 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

There's a few Tamiya and Dragon bits used, but I think I'm going to try and use as much of the original ESCI kit as possible, that is until I open up the Academy Magach with the mine roller I scored, and dig into the various Legends and DEF stuff floating around. And just to punish myself, while I'm pausing on this for whatever reason, I'm also doing basic hull work to build an M60 "slick", using Tamiya and Academy parts. Talk about chasing windmills. So far I've got the leading return roller stations re-positioned while I ponder the total lack of detail under the hull.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 29, 2021 7:11 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, that's cool!!! Hope you go with a mine roller. Love the look of them!

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Posted by RBaer on Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:25 PM

After doing my due diligence, I affirmed that the mine roller was a later addition to the Magach. Since I'm doing a 1980 or so tank, I'll wait for the next one, maybe using a Takom base like I keep threatening to do. In the meantime, I'll plug along with this and the slick hull. I have picked my next actual "build", one from my most recent acquisitions and completely out of my norm, and it does NOT have wings.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, October 1, 2021 12:28 PM
The Esci tank was one of my more favorite kits. Back in the 90s, they were available for $4.99 in Big Lots and Odd Lots chain of discount stores. Cheap and very good little kits. The Italeri re-issue is not quite as good due to the removal of a few key parts to make a plain M60A1 like the cupola hatch and 105 mm plain gun.
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Posted by RBaer on Saturday, October 2, 2021 11:37 AM

I still grab any I find, they've got good bits for other projects. Now that the Takom kits are out and reasonably priced, I'm just using select pieces on other projects. I think I just had a wild hair on this one. I need to get a new pic up too, some new work and some stuff already done is "re done". I'm also digging into the spares boxes more than I'd initailly intended.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, October 3, 2021 10:06 AM

RBaer

I still grab any I find, they've got good bits for other projects. Now that the Takom kits are out and reasonably priced, I'm just using select pieces on other projects. I think I just had a wild hair on this one. I need to get a new pic up too, some new work and some stuff already done is "re done". I'm also digging into the spares boxes more than I'd initailly intended.

The detail is not as refined as the newish AFV Club kits (I haven't seen Takom in the flesh), but many areas are superior to the Tamiya M60A3/M60A1 RISE/Passive.

I've decided to use the lower hull of one kit to bash with the MBT70 turret to make a what if MBT60. The idea for this kit came from the old MBT70 that used to be near the entrance to Disney Barracks at Fort Knox. It had M60 lower hull suspension to replace the original MBT70 suspension that was one of the problems of the original tank.

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, October 4, 2021 3:54 PM

I like that, neat idea. I've seen pics of that myself. 

So I've been adding more stuff here and redoing a few other things too, finding better parts as I dig through my spares boxes. I also decided to show the mantlet without the ERA blocks, just the mount, so I scratched that up, not too difficult, just slow. 

 IMG_2028 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

I added some detail the the Academy smoke launcher boxes and mounted them, then redid a few things on the back, added an AFV Club infantry phone and made up the air filter housings from Tamiya and Takom parts.

 IMG_2029 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

Rob, if you ever get the chance, the Takom M60 kits are very good, with detail very close the the AFV Club kits but more like Tamiya ease of assembly. It took me a few weeks to build the one AFV Club kit I've done so far, but I can have a Takom hull together in a couple of afternoons if I'm building it OOB. Once painted, it's difficult to tell the difference, and I don't have to "fix" the overly done texturing of the AFV Club hull and turret.

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Monday, October 4, 2021 6:18 PM

Amazing progress so far!  Not sure if anyone has ever put that much work into an ESCI kit before.  Looking forward to your next posting.  I have an old AFV Club M-48 with Chinese Nationalist markings and I've always toyed with the idea of converting it to an early M-48 that IDF used in the late 1960s.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 4, 2021 6:39 PM

Oh wow, nice work there! Love the ERA brackets and the bustle rack. 

 

I was very happy with the Takom CM-11/M48H (M60 hull) I built. 

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:13 PM

Thanks all. I guess I'm still building these things 'cause I bought up a few when the AFV Club kits hit and they got cheap. I'm pretty sure this is my last one....

And I do like the Takom kits, for sure. 

And re that comment I made abouit the mine roller being a later addition to the Magach 6B: wrong. I found a pic of one in Lebanon, 1982, with a roller. Hmmm.....

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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, October 11, 2021 1:56 PM
The old Esci kit is looking very good. Almost picked up one of the Italeri boxes last weekend however the asking price was what the Takom kits cost.

 
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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:24 AM

Thanks. I'll snag either the ESCI/Italeri kit or the Academy kit if the price is at or under $20, just for the parts. More than that is not worth it. And I'm surprised Takom hasn't done some IDF version yet, they're more than halfway there now. I just can't make myself pay $90 and up for the AFV Club 6B Gal kit. That takes too much fun out of it for me.

Anyhootch, I started the hull ERA, this time separating the row along the lower glacis and doing standoffs for all of it, using Academy parts here for the better detail on the bolts and tabs.

 IMG_2131 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:36 AM

Cool, like what you've done with the ERA bricks and the smoke grenades.

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, October 12, 2021 4:52 PM

Thanks G. Just plugging along.....  and I started another hull, since I had all my spares out. Gotta use up those old parts!

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, October 15, 2021 5:53 PM

Over the last few days I finished the hull ERA, going to the old Verlinden "Blazer" kit since it's actaully more accurate then either the Italeri or Academy parts, but it's puddle cast so it's very slow getting each piece ready to use. Then I started the turret, scratching the mortar mount while I was there.

 IMG_2276 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, October 16, 2021 2:11 PM

Puddle-cast means the resin parts with the kinda liquid looking backs (I don't know how to describe it)?

I like where you're going there, nice!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:04 PM

You got me drooling again, Russ. 

I started assembling my Panda M-1 IP last week. Finished the suspension, assembled the track runs for both sides, and put it back in the box for now. I felt the itch for some 80's armor lol.

But now I'm feeling the need to revisit my M-60 with the mine plow. I've got all of those spare IDF goodies still waiting to get stuffed on it. ;)

As per the norm with you, this is all beautiful work and inspiring.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, October 17, 2021 7:52 AM
Lotsa great looking details,I like it.

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, October 18, 2021 11:13 AM

Thanks y'all.

G, exactly right. The backing is about 1mm thick and has to be removed by sanding, a slow and dirty process. All those Chinese covid masks my company still sends me are finally useful. Here's a pic of what it looks like, on the left a section of a larger sheet that I've taken a few pieces from, and on the right one piecem sanded down and two plastic "standoffs" cryo-glued to, to be cemented the the plastic of the turret. I do this around 40 times.

 IMG_2278 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

Mike, I wondered what happened to that build. Go for it!

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 18, 2021 11:33 AM

Ah, ok! Makes sense!

Sanding is something to do while watching TV or YouTube videos...

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:56 AM

Except for the massive amounts of resin dust.......

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, October 19, 2021 10:15 AM

Probably not the safest thing but I wipe the dust off on an old pair of jeans and then hose them down washing the dust down the drain or off in the yard when I'm done.

 

Yeah I'll probably die of black lung in a decade or so...

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Posted by RBaer on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 5:12 PM

It'll be Khaki lung for me......

Turret's getting really close, ERA done and other bits going on too.

 IMG_2280 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_2279 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

So many of the small bits in both the ESCI and Academy kits are just guesswork I'm finding it easier to just scratch them up rather than try and correct them.

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, November 5, 2021 9:32 AM

Paint soon: I'm rooting around in the stash for two 30 cals, going to leave the ERA and 50 cal off the mantlet. The extra can rack on the bustle is based on a coiuple of pics I have of '82 era pics, and I'm guessing they're a workshop/field addition, so I used extra fender braces for the sides to lend some credibility.

 IMG_2317 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_2316 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_2315 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

I'm modeling this as an "in action" tank, so the bustle rack will be nearly empty. I need to make up the stretcher and tarp/tent bag that go on the front fenders too.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 5, 2021 11:29 AM

Looks good! Nice to see all the different colours of plastic and resin to tell us how many different sources you used!

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Posted by RBaer on Friday, November 5, 2021 4:28 PM

It's all modeling! Big Smile

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, November 6, 2021 11:56 AM

RBaer

It's all modeling! Big Smile

I first discovered this kit in the late 1980s in Germany (1988-89) and still really love the base model. I've been tinkering with one to mount a MBT70 turret to it to make a whit if "MBT60".

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Posted by RBaer on Monday, November 8, 2021 11:17 AM

I like that Rob. I mounted a Merkava 1 turret to an M60 hull a  while ago, an IDF "what-if", and have a couple more ideas still. The ESCI kits are getting to be almost collectors' items now, prices creeping up, but the old Tamiya and Academy kits are usually cheap at shows so I still pick one up now and then, for oddball projects and parts.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:54 AM

Yes, the original Esci kits are getting harder to find as is the Revell M60A3 kit that was the best of the reissued kits (Italeri M60A1 and M60 Blazer). I've still got one each of the Esci M60A3, Esci M60A1, AMT M60 Blazer, Italeri M60A1 and Revell M60A3. I even have the Gunze Sangyo USMC M60A1 RISE/Passive kit. That last one is white metal and photo etch added to the standard Esci M60A1 kit.

But I have a number of the Esci M60 Blazer kits so I use those as the ones I can tinker with without fearing that I'm using up a collectable kit. These kits were my learning experience for working with link & length tracks, and for the time, they were very well done model kits.

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Posted by RBaer on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 4:55 PM

Painting is begun, base coat and some details, and in an attempt to duplicate the scruffy look a lot of these things have, I used very light applications of acrylics, just off the base coat, on a lot of the ERA blocks. I don't know if it's a trick of the lighting or a lot of the blocks get periodically replaced, but I've noticed that they seem to be "different" colors in a lot of in-action pics. Anyway, pics:

 IMG_2375 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

 IMG_2376 by Russel Baer, on Flickr

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