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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
JSC-Older kits.
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:15 AM

Hi Ya'll;

     I just thought I would give you and update on what I am doing. The M.V.Mellum didn't make the move from my kitchen table to my worktable in my room. Dog ate part of it. Got repairs made. Used 1/250 P.E. to replace the damaged parts.

    Was looking for paper replacements and remembered an old JSC set I had. Thought "Maybe,Well" Yeah, Sure, and the Sun sets in the East! Nope,no useable parts! But then the idea struck me. Why not build this set as a getaway from the Mellum?

      There's actually three ships in the set. Funny though.This is the only ship set that doesn't have Hull Bottom Plates! It's fairly decent though The ships are The Oliwa, Pekin and the third is the Czech! It's formatted like a book. 

 They are 1/400 in scale, but neat ships in their own right. Why? well they are all Passenger/Freighters of the fifties.And looking right at home even today. As we mariners would say" Handsome Ships Indeed". With very complete Starboard side line drawings on the front and back interleaf. They are drawn to the ships actual size as models.

   Very clean and precise. Pawel, question here. Do you have any idea why they chose to leave them with open bottoms? Your input here would be appreciated in this regard as well as letting me know what you are up to my friend. Any more paper planes in your group that you've built?

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, August 6, 2020 7:53 PM

Hello TB!
Thanks a lot for asking - I'm pretty busy nowadays, now I'm working installing small solar power plants, never had this little time for building models :-(

Now for those of you wondering, we're talking about this set:
https://www.mojehobby.pl/products/Polskie-drobnicowce-OLIWA-i-PEKIN-chlodniowiec-CZECH.html

I'm not sure myself why they left the hull bottom open here - I sure like to have the shape of the waterline defined and I would probably fabricate my own part out of thick cardboard here. I guess that's because those ships are considered "mikro" and they probably wanted to simplify the build this way.

I sure am glad you like this oldie though. I think you can find many more similar ones from Polish designers.

Good luck with your builds and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, August 9, 2020 9:34 AM

Hey Pawel;

      It is sure good to hear from you. What with the Covid and all I was worried that you were okay.  Yes! I am enjoying the daylights out of this kit. Because it is older tech it is testing my abilities. I never remembered how intricate these were. Now that said, I have slowed down on the Mellum do to the shakes. Still going to be awesome. Then, The Petrojarl Rio de Cuidad. Processing ship in 1/400.

     The little JSC ships do fit together okay though. I love that if you glue the two sides( The finish parts) tightly at the bow, then come along to the sterns they fit so well there's almost no seam and the sterns are nicely rounded too!

    That's a problem with Great lakes Miniatures. They are almost childlike by comparison! The only problem I have had with these JSC ships, is they sometimes have to much material in tight places and you do have to carefully remove it.

      I Love POLISH PAPER SHIP MODELS ! ! !

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, August 13, 2020 12:12 PM

Hi Pawwel!

 I did something silly and you'll probably laugh at it. I took.010 brass sheet and using the cut out pieces for the Paper hull, I reproduced the Pekin Hull in brass! Just had to try it. Verry interresting!

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, August 24, 2020 10:00 AM

I started the old JSC kit of the SMS Goeben, re-scaling her to 1/350. Unfortunately, the limited instructions are not very clear on how to fold the casemates.  Does anyone have suggestions?

Thanks!

Bill

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 24, 2020 11:59 AM

Hello Bill!

I just downloaded the scans of that baby, so I'm ready to assist you. Now please tell me what part number do you have a problem with?

Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, August 24, 2020 4:16 PM

Pawel,

It's great to hear from you again!  Several years ago you sent me the different chapters from Les Vasseaus du le Soleil Royal, or something like that.  I still have those chapters.

Anyway, on  the JSC Goeben I am having problems with parts 44 and 45.  I just cannot see the sequence or the process for folding them.

Thanks!

Bill

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Monday, August 24, 2020 7:23 PM

Hello Bill!

Well, I'm always glad if I can help!

OK, in case of Part 44, 45 and many other, similar parts - the way of building them is detailed in the instructions in rys. 4 (drawing no. 4) - right under the bow of the general plan of the ship. The tricky part is to understand that you fold the part to form a kind of a box with the colour on the insides. I'll add here that I'm not a fan of those glue tabs - I routinely cut them off and replace with a piece of scrap leftover material.

Now if you look at the two triangular portions of Part 44 - they are to be horizontal, the lower one will have its colour, printed side pointing up, and the upper one will have its colour side pointing down. The round "cutouts" of those triangular parts is where the round gun turret (Parts 36-43) goes. If you dont glue the turret subassembly (Parts 36-43) to Part 44, you will have the option to traverse the casemate guns! That long, rectangular strip of part 44 (the wider one) goes around the turret subassembly with its printed side toward the turret, to hold it in place. The narrow and long rectangle of Part 44 is supposed ot be vertical and parallel to the side of the ship with its printed colour side facing to the outboards.

And once you figure out Part 44, you'll already know how to do parts 45, 46, 47 , 48, 49 and 52.

Now I hope I explained it so that you can understand it... If not - I'm going to have to print out one of those and fold it and then post a photo!

Good luck with your paper warship and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 8:34 AM

Pawel,

Thanks for the advice! I appreciate it!  Sorry for my late response; I just saw your post.  Thanks again!

Bill

  • Member since
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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, September 26, 2020 7:16 PM

Hello Bill!

To be honest I waited for some sign of life from you on this one, as I have put some work in this one. So was it helpful at all? Maybe you have figured it out on your own before seeing my answer? Would be cool to look at a pic of your model so far. Good luck with it and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, September 27, 2020 8:58 AM

Pawel,

Your advice did help. Thanks!  This is my first paper model. It was going well until I had to fold that piece.  But, I enjoy building this, and I picked up several HMV kits to extend my Kaiserlich Marine ships. This opens a new dimension in my modeling!

Bill

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:24 PM

Hello Bill!

In this case I'm glad I could help you. Should you have questions like that in the future please let me know - who knows, maybe I can figure something out.

Now Kaiserliche Marine isn't a very mainstream genre - paper models are just perfect to build things like these. Good luck with your projects and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:15 PM

Pawel,

I rescaled the JSC SMS Goeben to 1/350 to fit with the ICM kits of the Koenig class and the Zvesda Russian/Soviet battleships, as well as the various pre-dreadnoughts by Trumpeter and Zvesda.  I also can't forget the two 1/350 HMS Dreadnought kits by Trumpeter and Academy.

I have since discovered HMV kits which have an extensive range of Kaiserlich Marine ships.  Full-hull SMS Derrflinger class ships can be found in another major company's range, but which one escapes me for the moment.  I love these ships, so I might be using your advice in the future.

Thanks again!  Have a great day!

Bill

 

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