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Central Pacific 60 Jupiter 1/25
Posted by DanCooper on Wednesday, March 17, 2021 9:39 AM

Hello ladies and gentlemen, some of you may remember me from years ago on this forum, for many others I'm a member never heard of.

Anyway, I'm back with a new built (actually it's almost finished by now).

Many years ago I started the build for a papermodel of steamlocomotive I never finished (but one day I will still finish it though) but now am building an American icon (well at least in the railway comunity) :

 

First thing do was the frame onto wich the whole engine will be built :

The wheels are always a challenging part when building a cardboard engine :

The engine has a bogie as well :

And then it was all a matter of adding stuff to the frame :

 

 

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:28 AM

Well, See?

   This is what I have been telling everyone. Paper(Card) Models can be beautiful! Excuse my french but that's a Damn Good job!!

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Posted by jrb53 on Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:25 PM

Wow! I agree with TB, you did a great job.  I'm amazed at the rounded details.  That appears to be a really good kit.

Jack

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Thursday, March 18, 2021 6:14 PM

Hi Jack!

      Well; I have to say, If you can roll a calender you can create wonderful shapes. Now for the shapes in ships I preform the parts with one spritz -Extra Fine, of water and a Hot Spoon. Paper is extremely malleable in the right circumstances. Many of the ships are scaled close enough for 1/350 or 1/192 scale P.E. 1/400 is available for the 1/400 ships.Trains and armor and cars as well as planes are out there. My first plane was a Schreiber D.C.10. Surprisingly it came out perfect! It was in 1/40 scale.

      Also if you are stingy with the glue it will go together just fine.Then the trick is to let it dry. It takes longer than a plastic kit. Plus you need to keep extremely sharp blades handy for cutting the laminated parts. That's where I draw the line. I have had laminated parts dry for a week and when I cut them they twisted out of shape. When you are dealing with 1/400 that's a no-no.

     

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Posted by JoeSMG on Thursday, March 18, 2021 9:29 PM

Beautiful work, I would never guess that model was made with paper and card stock. Is that the same type of locomotive used on The Wild Wild West? If not, it looks very similar.

 

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by DanCooper on Friday, March 19, 2021 3:51 AM
Joe, this specific engine was one of the two engines involved in the Golden Spike ceremony in 1869 in Utah, where the rails from the Eastern parts of the US were joined with the Western rail.
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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, March 19, 2021 1:12 PM

Hi Dan;

     The Wild Wild West engine was indeed one of the type. They were a rather Generic pattern for the time. Kind of like today where an SD40-2 will be seen in many railroad colors but it's the same old Diesel-Electric engine.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 20, 2021 4:52 PM

Thanks to both of you for your replies.

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by DanCooper on Sunday, March 21, 2021 12:14 PM

Well the locomotive part of this built is now ready, I think I'll be able to finish the tender tomorrow.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:55 PM

Great model Dan - did the kit come with the thicker card stock? Or did you need to pick that up seperately?

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by DanCooper on Monday, March 22, 2021 2:06 AM

The basic kit doesn't come with the thicker (0.5mm and 1mm) cardstock, however I bought the lasercut set for it consisting of most of the 0.5 and 1 mm parts.  Although some of the parts in the lasercut set needed to be done over because they were lasered on the wrong thickness.

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Posted by JoeSMG on Monday, March 22, 2021 8:59 AM

Ok, pretty much as I suspected.

The availability of lazer cut parts however, was not. Seems like a huge time saver if available (and reasonably priced).

Thanks again

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, March 22, 2021 11:00 AM

Joe:

 I used the Lazer-cut parts for the Andrea Doria. Now I will say this about that. Very nicely done BUT, they did not leave a note stating where on the backbone the Ribs accurately located. So my ship is an inch short. 

  This required taking and modifying where it wouldn't be noticed, all the way up to the Stack level! Most folks wouldn't notice it, But it is what it is. As it turns out The Lazer-Cut Frames were ALL supposed to be mounted Behind the lines, starting from the bow. Not spaced like the Thin Card frames were. From the center of the ship to both ends.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, March 22, 2021 11:01 AM

D.C.;

 Are you going to mount it on tracks?

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Posted by JoeSMG on Monday, March 22, 2021 4:51 PM

That's too bad TB, had to be a stomach churning moment when you realized what was what.

Been there, done similar...

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by DanCooper on Monday, March 22, 2021 6:00 PM

Tanker-Builder

D.C.;

 Are you going to mount it on tracks?

 

What a coincidence that you ask, T-B, as a matter of fact this afternoon I was going to work on the tinder... errr, tender but got side tracked because my wife asked me the same question.

And indeed, even though there are no parts in the kit to make tracks, it is however shown how to do so.

So I decided to experiment on that instead of the tender...

First thing to do was to cut enough strips in three different sizes ; 7mm (for the base), 3mm (for the vertical part of the rail) and 5mm (for the top of the rail).

All these parts together gave me this :

And a close-up with one of the rails already started to be shaped (first I generously applied CA on the carboard to make it more sandeable).

 

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Posted by DanCooper on Friday, March 26, 2021 10:41 AM

There is a first for everything I suppose, so I'm trying my hand on some woodworking for a display.

The white strip is depron where the tracks will be located on, the white "blobs" are cast outcrops using a woodlands-scenery mould.

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, March 26, 2021 11:00 AM

That is an increadible piece of work!  I've never done a paper model but I contiue to be stunned by what can be done.  Just fantastic.  Well done sir.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, March 26, 2021 3:14 PM

Hi;

 That Sir!

 Is one incredible job. With that display you'll knock them dead at a Train Show! My Museum/Club members don't believe that paper can really tell the "Story of the Rails", that kit just proves them wrong. Might I ask what brand that kit is? I would like to obtain one myself!

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, March 26, 2021 3:19 PM

JoeSMG;

    Guess what though? She's come together with the adjustments so well that nobody notices! That is the beauty of modeling. With other folks reaction I am absolutely happy with the way she turned out. The Stockholm turned out great too, and there no parts like that mentioned in the catalogue for her.

   Now it's kinda hard to get back to the "Rio", I fell off the wagon and am kinda taking a mental break I guess. It's staring at me though, sending the message" Finish me willya, Already?"

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Posted by JoeSMG on Saturday, March 27, 2021 10:57 AM

Tanker-Builder

JoeSMG;

    Guess what though? She's come together with the adjustments so well that nobody notices! That is the beauty of modeling. With other folks reaction I am absolutely happy with the way she turned out..."

 
Good to hear!
 
Sometimes an error is so subtle even I forget about it, other times it's all i see.
That's when I do something drastic/stupid that either fixes the issue or trashes the model, either way problem solved :)
 

- Joe the SMG

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:25 PM

JoeSMG;

    Hey this is off subject. I am glad I am not the only one who uses LEGO to build jigs!

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Posted by Pawel on Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:54 PM

Tanker-Builder
Might I ask what brand that kit is? I would like to obtain one myself!

TB - it's noted in the first post right on top of this thread - it's "Modelik", straight from Poland! They also have more railroad stuff in big scale, but most of them Polish railroad.

Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by DanCooper on Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:53 AM

Thanks T-B, as for the kit, the first picture of this topic shows the cover ; it's Modelik nr5/09 ISSN 1428-3840.

This is at 1/25 but they also have the identical kit at 1/48 or something like that.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, March 28, 2021 1:13 PM

Pawel:

    Listen here good friend. This ain't fair. The publishers in Your Country offer way more than publishers here don't have the guts to do. Why don't you move here to New Braunfels ,Texas and open a Paper Model outlet. I'll come and have coffee every morning and build models with you too. We can show them " How it's Done".

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, March 28, 2021 1:15 PM

DanCopper;

 Yeah, Pawel chimed in an set me straight. I found them at Fentens. Now if I would just get Stimulated, I could buy one with the options!

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, March 28, 2021 3:39 PM

TB - I felt that way about plastic models in the US some 30 years ago... If I did it the way you suggest, you would probably have to set up some program for funding me, because how many other customers than you would I have?

But no sweat - if you want a Polish paper model let me know and I'd be glad to help you get it!

Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, March 29, 2021 11:11 AM

Well;

       I thank you for that consideration. I am looking for a ship, that looks like a small cruise ship for our " N" scale rail setup at the Museum. I only have 18 inches to work with. I showed my landlady some of the more " Cruisy" looking ferries and she vetoed that idea. I sometimes run  something by her because she will take a train car( Any Size) and create a" Tiny Home" with all the furnishings in paper!!

     If course " N" scale is 1/160 so if it can be close that's good. You can send a picture to my E-Mail. If you don't have that, go to messages and I will give it to you. Again -Thank You!  P.S. just remember the working pier length I have - 18 Inches!

      Tha railroad doesn't matter. I would like to find the kit and extra set - If available - for a Baldwin type Steam engine or even a Diesel-Electric like a SD 40-2

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, March 29, 2021 11:17 AM

Hi DanCooper!

  I was going to suggest using " G" scale rails on home-made Ties!

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Posted by DanCooper on Saturday, October 23, 2021 11:02 AM
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