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USS Constitution build II - 35 years later

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, December 11, 2020 12:13 PM

Bill,

You were correct and I was in error.  The foremast stay and preventer stay are rigged to the center of the bowsprit via huge open hearts.  Topmast stay & preventer go through the bees.  All four of these will try to pull up on the bowsprit.  But with the gammoning and bobstays all rigged very tight, I am not worried about the bowsprit bending, since it is a solid piece of wood. 

More worried about the topgallant and royal stays pulling on the jibboom and flying jib.  That is where most folks run into trouble, especially with the very flimsy plastic, which really has a tendency to bend either the skypole or the flying jib.  I remember playing that game some 35 years ago when I first built her.  Had to go back and tighten up the martingales so I could get everything to look OK.  But even then, they had a tendency to sag in the summer.

Bob

Rigging.  An excuse to drink scotch.  (I am paraphrasing off of your tag)

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:27 PM

Moved from the bowsprit to the foremast. Accidentally broke one of the 40g wires to the foremast lamp. It was a chore, but I was able to pull out the broken wire and splice a new one on. Can't really strip the insulation on that stuff - just have to gently scrape or sand it off.  All fixed, light is working, and stepped the mast using just a bit of the slow-set superglue on the bottom. Mast is pretty tight, but shrouds will hold it in place. 

All shrouds were individually tied, seized, and wrapped around the mast in pairs, working back and forth.  Mast is dead straight and has the necessary 1/2" of rake.  I tried to make sure to keep the deadeyes holes in line with the shroud. 

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Have a Merry Christmas everyone!

Hope all your stockings are stuffed with modeling things.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Monday, January 4, 2021 7:50 PM

After getting all the shrouds and Burton pendants onto the foremast, I added the fore stay and the fore preventer stay.  Each had to have a collar and mouse added, and then served.  They both attach to unique "open" hearts on the bowsprit which had to be scratch built and painted.  Each was tensioned with a lanyard.

While waiting for the correct size 3 sheave blocks to arrive to the foremast shrouds, I decided to strop the deadeyes and attach them to the fighting top.  To hold them in place, futtock shrouds are used, which attach to the deadeye strop with a hook and to a ring below the fighting top.  A Bentinck shroud then courses behind the mast to a pair of bullseyes on the opposite side of the deck and are tensioned with a lanyard.

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Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Night Fighter on Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:04 PM

A beautiful work of art.  I love it.  :)

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Posted by Luvspinball on Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:19 PM

Thanks Night-Fighter

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Nino on Monday, January 11, 2021 4:33 PM

    Bob, I'm still out here, reading along and following your definitive Constitution build to the best of my ability.

    You stretched my comprehension ability with your last "...While waiting for the correct size 3 sheave blocks to arrive to the foremast shrouds, I decided to strop the deadeyes and attach them to the fighting top.  To hold them in place, futtock shrouds are used, which attach to the deadeye strop with a hook and to a ring below the fighting top.  A Bentinck shroud then courses behind the mast to a pair of bullseyes on the opposite side of the deck and are tensioned with a lanyard."

   Thank you for adding Photos with arrows...(lol).

Yo, Great work.  Yours is another great Thread that I love to re-read and take notes.

      Jim.

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Posted by Luvspinball on Monday, January 11, 2021 11:25 PM

I didn't mean to lose you Jim! Glad the photos helped. Big Smile Just trying to follow the BlueJacket plans and my 3 other resources to get this looking as close to 1812 as I can. Since this is my first foray back into ship building in many years, even I have trouble sometimes with the terminology being used. I constantly have to look things up or type them into the Google search bar. I try to research each section I am about to do if I have ANY questions, since I HATE doing things twice. Bang Head

Thanks for the compliments.  It keeps me going.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:13 PM

All lower shrouds done so moving up the mast to the topmast shrouds.  Still working in pairs except for the 5th (aft-most) shroud.  Same procedure as before, except it is a bit trickier to rig the second deadeye on the shroud.  Had to get clever so I could seize it correctly. 

After the shrouds were done, started on the backstays, since the topmast forestay is supposed to go around both shrouds and backstays.  Started with the shifting backstays which have a very unique set of blocks, a hook and a loop around the lower deadeye, as shown below.  Once these are finished, I will do the normal topmast backstays to the deadeyes on the channels.

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Take care and keep masking up!

Bob

 

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 AM

Clinic on standing rigging.

Nicely done and demonstrated, Bob.

I hope you are posting over on modelships.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Monday, February 8, 2021 2:22 PM

I have completed the rigging of the foremast finally.  Finally got all the way to the skypole.  Also added the spritsail yard lifts as well.

Back to the lathe and making the main mast.  Enjoy.

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take care.

Bob

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Posted by Michael D. on Tuesday, February 9, 2021 7:59 AM

Looking magnificent BobYes

Michael D.

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, March 12, 2021 1:13 PM

So I finished the main and mizzen lower masts, and the main topmast.  Stepped the main mast after doing the electrical work for mast lamp.  Moved onto the mizzen spanker, boom and gaff, since they need to be added when mizzen mast is stepped.  Gaff and boom jaws needed parrals, but didn't have small enough beads, so I made them out of 1/16" tubing rounded on ends.  Also need the clapper for the gaff.  Cut the shape from wood, drilled a hole through center of clapper and jaws, and mounted with a 28 gauge wire.  Actually pivots, so gaff could be adjusted. 

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Enjoy

 

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Monday, May 17, 2021 11:45 AM

I completed the rigging of the mizzen shrouds and backstays, but before moving on to tying 1000 ratlines, I decided to try building one of the whaleboats.  Using the plans from the museum, I decided to build it using the "bread & butter" approach.

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Thanks for following along!

Bob

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Posted by Luvspinball on Thursday, May 27, 2021 11:18 PM

Completed the port side ratlines on the lower shrouds. I used the "sandwich method" since it helps hold the shrouds in place, and allowed me to vary the "tightness" of the ratlines between shrouds, so there is a bit of sagging here and there.  I think that helps with the realism a bit, as most ships have a bit of sag in the ratlines.

Started with the mizzen mast since it had the fewest knots to tie, with only 6 shrouds.  Got the hang of tying all those clove hitches, and things went pretty smoothly.  I only went back and cut out the first two rows and redid them, since they were a bit messy.

Main mast has 10 shrouds, so a bit more work, but no problems at all. 

Ran into a bit of trouble on the foremast, since I had fully rigged all of the backstays, swifter cables and futtock shrouds.  Made it much harder to keep track of the knots, as I got tangled up in the other rigging a few times.  But I persevered and learned a valuable lesson - tie the ratlines before adding all the additional lines!  Added footropes to the foremast futtock shrouds, and then started up the fore topmast shrouds.

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Have a great Memorial Day weekend.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:39 PM

After a very long semester of teaching pretty much every day, I finally have some free time again.  The Constitution has been moved from her spot of tranquility (next to the TV) and is back in the shop.  Yeah!  I have really missed building and working on her.

More to come in a few days as I get back into building.  Working on getting the main topgallant, royal and skysail masts completed, then on to completing the mizzen mast.

Take care,

And may Santa be overly generous this year!

Bob

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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 11:14 PM

main TG, R, SP

Bob

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 8:11 AM

Outstanding work!  You, sir, are a master modeler.  When I start my Constitution this year I will use photosa as my inspiration/motivation.  

TJS

TJS

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 11:28 AM

Thanks for the kind words. If I can help you out in any way with your build, don't hesitate to ask.

Have a great holiday.

Bob

 

P.S.  There is a big box under the tree that looks suspiciously like a large kit.  Heavy too, so probably a wood kit.  Santa must've read my email.....

 

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, December 24, 2021 3:02 PM

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Happy Holidays everyone!

Bob

 

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Luvspinball on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 8:13 PM

After finishing the ratlines on all the lower shrouds, I moved on to the main topsail shrouds.  Had to complete the futtock and Bentinck shrouds first.  Futtock shrouds collect onto an iron ring, which is then attached to the opposite side spar deck via the Bentinck shrouds fitted with bullseyes and lanyards (exactly the same as on the foremast).  Then up to the topmast shrouds (5 pairs), and finally the backstays (2 pairs).

Next up are the shifting backstays and finally the topmast stay and preventer stay.

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Happy modeling.  And HAPPY NEW YEAR!  Geeked

Bob

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:19 PM

Excellent work!  She's really coming together.

TJS

TJS

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, January 13, 2022 10:18 AM

Nicely done, Bob.

Bill

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Posted by Luvspinball on Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:09 PM

Thanks, Bill & Tom.  With the masts topped out, she is starting to finally look like a real ship.

Bob

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Posted by Brhino on Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:42 PM

I just found this thread and it's an amazing looking build!

As a teenager, I attempted to finish this kit that my dad had started before me.  I never did... all the tiny ropework broke me.

Who keeps stepping on wings?  Someone won't stay off the wings and now I have to apply all these tiny "NO STEP" decals.

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Posted by Luvspinball on Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:59 PM

Thanks Brhino.

My first one was pretty much OOB and followed Revell's directions almost to the letter.  And while she was an impressive model, I always knew that I could have done a much better job.  Some of the knots just didn't look right, and the inevitable warping of the mast tops really bothered me.  My wife liked it, but didn't really "love" it, and no amount of begging would allow it to be displayed in a prominent place.  When I picked up the box this time, I was fully invested in turning out a much more impressive piece, with tons of research, plans, and books to guide me.  Revell's plans are still in the box on the shelf.

Other than turning out a few more spars, all I have left is the rigging.  And there are virtually NO square knots this time!  I am trying my best to do the majority of the rigging the old fashioned way - with real seizings, fully turned wooden masts, multiple sizes of rope, and wooden blocks correctly sized to the scale (not just 2 or 3 like Revell provided).  It is slow going, but the results are amazing.  Pretty sure that most people will probably never really know the difference when looking from three feet away, but I want this one to be as authentic and accurate as possible. As you can see from the original post, I am coming up on the four year mark!  Ships like this are a labor of love and dedication. 

Keep building!

Bob

Bob Frysztak

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Posted by Brhino on Thursday, January 13, 2022 9:13 PM

Apologies if you've covered this already, but what are your plans for the sails? I saw some discussion on which sails would be in place and which wouldn't, but nothing about the material.  I remember being pretty unimpressed with the vacuform sails that came with the kit, so I'm guessing you have something else in mind.

Who keeps stepping on wings?  Someone won't stay off the wings and now I have to apply all these tiny "NO STEP" decals.

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Posted by Luvspinball on Thursday, January 13, 2022 9:53 PM

Absolutely!  HiSModel sells a beautiful set of sails (link here) and also has just about any other add-on you might want for the Revell 1:96 Constitution.  These will be stained to look natural and then have the bolt ropes sewn on (probably by hand) before attaching to the yards.  But that is still a few weeks (or months) away.

Bob

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, January 14, 2022 11:31 AM

Great work Bob,

I have an old Thermopylae and Alabama that need to re-masted and rigged, so I am archieving your thread for it has so many ideas to issues I was pondering on.  

Scott

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Posted by Luvspinball on Friday, January 14, 2022 1:25 PM

Glad to be of service.  PM me if you get stuck.  I have a few other tricks I probably haven't taken a picture of.

Bob

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Posted by Model Monkey on Sunday, January 16, 2022 8:53 AM

Looks great, Bob!  Really enjoying all the special work you've been doing.

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